[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Experience with MY KANNAN

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Dear Krishnadasaji,

 

I am glad you brought this up! There is a profound reason why I used the words

attachment and sentimental!

 

I agree with what you said and I know bhakthi is not a mere sentiment in a

scriptural sense. However, for commoners like me, Bhakti is a real emotion and

quite sentimental - especially when we are in a place like Guruvayoor.

 

And the reason is simple, I am a novice in Bhakthi yathra and I need

to travel a long way before I can " detach myself from material world "

to avoid being above sentiments and emotions. So, the " Para Isha

Anubhava " that Bhagavatam and other scriptures explains is quite far

for beginners like me.

 

That is why I specifically chose the word 'ATTACHMENT'. It is the

exact opposite of detachment that scriptures suggest to have being

learned soul. Being immersed in samsara and senses what prevails in my

actions are emotions and sentiments. When I reach Guruvayoor or read

narrations like Syamalaji's I feel that beautiful emotion filling my

heart. It is like other Navarasas. As Sarojaji beautifully explained in her

previous mail, after that I come out of that temple and put my slippers and

there I go back to the Samsara again!

 

 

Refining those senses and sentiments and trying to have a more

detached life is the goal of my Bhakthi yathra. But unless I reach

that destination, I will be sentimental about Krishna.

 

For Poonthanam, Unnikrishnan was none other than his own child, for

Radha, Meera and millions of others, He is their eternal lover. For

Arjuna, he was his best friend and guide.... You will see sentimental

and emotional relationship everywhere when it comes to Krishna.. We

can later refine those senses and make it more of a Jeevatma

-Paramatma relationship without human sentiments - but that will take

time for many of us to reach there.

 

And that is the beauty of Hinduism, it has such beautiful concepts and

multitudes of paths for anyone to reach the goal of salvation.

 

Temples, idols and rituals are a way for commoners like me to

conceptualize and start the Bhakthi yathra. Yogis and learned ones do

not need temples to be with the Supreme. I admire people they can

have non sentimental Bhakthi and detachment from materialistic world.

 

 

Om Namo Narayanaya:

Sunil.

 

 

guruvayur , Krishna Dasa <krishnadasa77 wrote:

>

> Dear Sunilji,

>

> It's great to see your mail encouraging Shyamalaji and I agree

fully with your opinion that Shyamalaji should take writing about

Krishna as an alternative profession.

>

> I was trying to understand this statement from you -- " ...and

sentimental Bhakthi towards Guruvayoorappan is just a part of that

samsara attachment... "

>

> .. And then finally came to conclusion that real Bhakti is not

just a sentiment but it also means that we get detached from the

material world (Virakti Anyatra Cha). In Srimad-Bhagavatam this is

very beautifully explained as:

>

> [ Bhakti, Para Isha Anubhava, Viraktir

> Anyatra Cha, Esha Trika Eka Kaalah,

> Prapadyamaanaasya, Yad Ashnuta Syuh,

> Tushti, Pushti, Kshud-Apaayo Anu Ghaasam

>

> " Devotion, direct experience of the Supreme Lord, and detachment

from other things — these three occur simultaneously for one who has

taken shelter of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, in the same way

that pleasure, nourishment and relief from hunger come simultaneously

and increasingly, with each bite, for a person engaged in eating. " -

SB 11.2.42 - http://vedabase.net/sb/11/2/42/ ]

>

> Shree Krishna Sharanam Mama!

> ~Krishnadasa.

>

>

> Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote:

> Dear Shayamalaji, Thank you so much for sharing your

experience with

> all of us.

>

> It is very touching to read and experiencing your deep Bhakti and

> sentiments. Many of us share the same sentimental attachment with

> Guruvayur and our dear Krishna.

>

> As Sarojaji mentioned in an earlier mail, " All of us are in the

> samsara only and have not renounced the world " and sentimental

> Bhakthi towards Guruvayoorappan is just a part of that samsara

attachment.

>

> We all are blessed to have people like you who could narrate so well

> in the group. I can definitely say I got a virtual darshan of HIM

> through your mail and it also compelled me to visit Guruvayoor more

> often.

>

> I would highly recommend you to take up writing as an alternative

> profession as I am impressed with your ability of narration.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Loka Samstha Sukhino Bhavanthu.

>

> Om Namo Narayanaya:

> Sunil.

>

> guruvayur , Syamala Nair <syamalaraghunath@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Jai Sreekrishna

> >

> > Further to our earlier message, I would like to share my

> experience with Kannan when I had been at Gurupavanapuram in the

> middle of last month with the members of this great group

> >

> > This time we spent five days at Guruvayoor so that we can have

> more darshan of HIM.

> > As all must be aware, now the line for Darshan does not go round

> the temple. Now the entrance to the temple is restricted from East

> Nada only and there is a fly over which takes us straight away to the

> Sreekovil nada. By the grace of Kannan, we were able to witness most

> of the poojas at different intervals

> >

> > For two days, we had to stand in the queue for nearly 3 hours

> before we could reach the Sreekovil nada.Other three days it was not

> that crowded.

> >

> > On one of the days, we were standing on the flyover waiting for

> our turn. Although we three, myself, my daughter and we were standing

> one after the other in the queue, each one was busy in their own

> prayer and no talk at all. My husband knows Jnanapana and he was

> continuously chanting the same. My daughter was chanting Hare Krishna

> mantram and myself whatever keertans and slokams I knew. On that

> particular day I was chanting 108 Hari.

> >

> > Pattu Konakam

> >

> > Normally I take receipt of archana and when collecting the

> prasadam I ask for a pattu konakam which they give with pleasure. This

> time I did not take any receipt for archana and all the while I was

> thinking if only I could get one without asking. I left the matter

> unto HIM and continued with my 108 Hari. By the time I reached

> Sreekovil I had completed 108 Hari and started chanting Govinda

> Govinda. . Volunteers were as usual shouting " vegam vegam thozhutu

> neenguka " . I was very happy that we had a very good and clear darshan

> of Kannan and must have moved just one or two steps from Sreekovil

> nada. Suddenly I had an urge to look behind. Though the volunteers

> were still continuing with the usual pallavi, I turned around chanting

> HIS name. For a second I could not believe my eyes. There was one

> Pattukonakam lying just in front of the Sreekovil.Since it was raining

> that day, it was completely wet. I picked up the same. I could not

> control my tears .I forgot everything

> > at that one moment and stood before the Recoil like a statue. Soon

> I heard the volunteer saying, vegam vegam thozhutu neenguka " and

> veentum varika " . With the pattukonakam kept close to my heart, I

> stepped forward and reached the backside of the temple. There I

> offered my pranams to my KANNAN for this karunyam on this eliyaval .

> >

> > Suddenly it came to my mind that each and every moment my KANNAN

> is running around this temple and even the manalathari in the

> temple is blessed to have his Padaravindam placed anywhere and

> everywhere and I wanted to just roll over there. But I know I

> cannot do that. So what, with both my palms I collected the

> manalthari and applied the same on my face, neck hands and the

> happiness I derived out of it cannot be explained in words

> >

> > Agre Pashyami

> >

> > I had heard lots and lots from my Guru regarding Narayaneeyam and

> especially the 100th dasakam which was written after Shree Melpatturji

> got the divine darshan of KANNAN. After completing the first

> Sampoornam in 2005, I had made it a point to recite this dasakam

> everyday infront of the vigraham of Kannan in my house. Before

> starting, I always request HIM to be present around and hear my

> parayanam and I always could feel his presence with small things

> like flower falling down, fluttering of malyipeeli etc. Ever since I

> started the nitya parayanam of Agre Pashyami in 2005 I was wondering

> whether I shall get a chance to recite the same standing infront of my

> KANNAN at GurupavanapuramEvery year by the grace of God, we go to

> Guruvayoor during vcation, but nevet got a chance, but my hopes were

> still alive and believed firmly that will happen with HIS grace. This

> year while standing at the flyover for my turn, all the time chanting

> HIS GLORY, I realized that there

> > is no forward movement of the devotees for quite some time. Then I

> heard someone saying that there is Udayasthamana pooja on that

> particular day and Thirunada will be closed and opened at regular

> intervals. I must accept that I felt jealousy of those devotees

> who were standing at the Sreekovil Nada and having Darshan of Kannan

> as soon as Thirunada is opened. Slowly after there was forward

> movement of the crowd and I found myself standing at the very spot

> where Shree Melpathoorji sat and wrote Narayaneeyam. I did have a

> glimpse of KANNAN and then Thirunada was closed for some pooja. I

> decided to try my luck of reciting Agrepashyami then and there. I

> bowed my head in respect to that Punyatman, kept dakshina and started

> reciting Agrepashyami. Needless to say, tears were rolling down my

> cheeks thinking of the Karunyam of my Thampuran. To my utter

> surprise when I reached the second last slokam " Yogindranam "

> ,Thirunada opened and on the tope of my voice,

> > I shouted Ente Ponnu Krishna Karunya sindho " . At that time for

> me no one were there except me and my KANNAN. After a few moments,I

> head the sheer sound of volunteers asking to move ahead and I

> started moving alongwith other devotees and almost completed the last

> slokam by the time I reached infront of my KANNAN. To me everything

> was like a dream and suddenly I realized that there are no boundaries

> for HIS love and affection `Bhakatanam Kamavarsham "

> >

> > I had a very very good Darshan of my KANNAN for several times a

> day this year and I could not express how difficult it was for me to

> leave Guruvayoor. I told HIM Enta Kanna, now I shall have to wait for

> another year before I can come to HIS abode. Suddenly I felt as if

> HE is telling me you have enough of experience this time and time

> will fly fast with those memories and I am with you always. What else

> I need

> >

> > Hope I did not bore you all with this lengthy message.

> >

> >

> > With koti koti pranams at HIS LOTUS FEET

> >

> > Humbly

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> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sunilji,

 

Thanks for replying to my mail. Yes, you have very

nicely elucidated what you meant and i am glad that i

could find out what you really meant when you said

that.

 

The great thing about wonderful saints is that even

though they do not require temple, etc. to see the

Lord as they are seeing Him 24 hours a day [santah

Sadaiva Hrdayeshu Vilokayanti - Brahma Samhita 5.38 -

http://vedabase.net/bs/5/38/en]. Still they follow all

the rituals, as much as they can, in order to set an

example for the people who are not on that level of

constant Bhakti.

 

That's the reason Krishna states in Bhagavad-Gita:

 

Yad Yad Aacharati Shreshtas Tad Tad Eva Itarah Janah

Sa Yat Pramanam Kurute Lokas Tad Anuvartate

 

" Whatever action is performed by a great man, common

men follow in his footsteps. And whatever standards he

sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. " - BG

3.21 - http://www.asitis.com/3/21.html ]

 

And finally, if Krishna is present everywhere then He

surely present in the form of Archa-Vigraha also.

 

Thanks once again Sunilji.

 

Shree Krishna Sharanam Mama!

~Krishnadasa.

 

--- Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote:

 

> Dear Krishnadasaji,

>

> I am glad you brought this up! There is a profound

> reason why I used the words attachment and

> sentimental!

>

> I agree with what you said and I know bhakthi is not

> a mere sentiment in a scriptural sense. However, for

> commoners like me, Bhakti is a real emotion and

> quite sentimental - especially when we are in a

> place like Guruvayoor.

>

> And the reason is simple, I am a novice in Bhakthi

> yathra and I need

> to travel a long way before I can " detach myself

> from material world "

> to avoid being above sentiments and emotions. So,

> the " Para Isha

> Anubhava " that Bhagavatam and other scriptures

> explains is quite far

> for beginners like me.

>

> That is why I specifically chose the word

> 'ATTACHMENT'. It is the

> exact opposite of detachment that scriptures suggest

> to have being

> learned soul. Being immersed in samsara and senses

> what prevails in my

> actions are emotions and sentiments. When I reach

> Guruvayoor or read

> narrations like Syamalaji's I feel that beautiful

> emotion filling my

> heart. It is like other Navarasas. As Sarojaji

> beautifully explained in her previous mail, after

> that I come out of that temple and put my slippers

> and there I go back to the Samsara again!

>

>

> Refining those senses and sentiments and trying to

> have a more

> detached life is the goal of my Bhakthi yathra. But

> unless I reach

> that destination, I will be sentimental about

> Krishna.

>

> For Poonthanam, Unnikrishnan was none other than his

> own child, for

> Radha, Meera and millions of others, He is their

> eternal lover. For

> Arjuna, he was his best friend and guide.... You

> will see sentimental

> and emotional relationship everywhere when it comes

> to Krishna.. We

> can later refine those senses and make it more of a

> Jeevatma

> -Paramatma relationship without human sentiments -

> but that will take

> time for many of us to reach there.

>

> And that is the beauty of Hinduism, it has such

> beautiful concepts and

> multitudes of paths for anyone to reach the goal of

> salvation.

>

> Temples, idols and rituals are a way for commoners

> like me to

> conceptualize and start the Bhakthi yathra. Yogis

> and learned ones do

> not need temples to be with the Supreme. I admire

> people they can

> have non sentimental Bhakthi and detachment from

> materialistic world.

>

>

> Om Namo Narayanaya:

> Sunil.

>

>

> guruvayur , Krishna Dasa

> <krishnadasa77 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunilji,

> >

> > It's great to see your mail encouraging

> Shyamalaji and I agree

> fully with your opinion that Shyamalaji should take

> writing about

> Krishna as an alternative profession.

> >

> > I was trying to understand this statement from

> you -- " ...and

> sentimental Bhakthi towards Guruvayoorappan is just

> a part of that

> samsara attachment... "

> >

> > .. And then finally came to conclusion that real

> Bhakti is not

> just a sentiment but it also means that we get

> detached from the

> material world (Virakti Anyatra Cha). In

> Srimad-Bhagavatam this is

> very beautifully explained as:

> >

> > [ Bhakti, Para Isha Anubhava, Viraktir

> > Anyatra Cha, Esha Trika Eka Kaalah,

> > Prapadyamaanaasya, Yad Ashnuta Syuh,

> > Tushti, Pushti, Kshud-Apaayo Anu Ghaasam

> >

> > " Devotion, direct experience of the Supreme

> Lord, and detachment

> from other things — these three occur simultaneously

> for one who has

> taken shelter of the Supreme Personality of Godhead,

> in the same way

> that pleasure, nourishment and relief from hunger

> come simultaneously

> and increasingly, with each bite, for a person

> engaged in eating. " -

> SB 11.2.42 - http://vedabase.net/sb/11/2/42/ ]

> >

> > Shree Krishna Sharanam Mama!

> > ~Krishnadasa.

> >

> >

> > Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote:

> > Dear Shayamalaji, Thank you so much for

> sharing your

> experience with

> > all of us.

> >

> > It is very touching to read and experiencing your

> deep Bhakti and

> > sentiments. Many of us share the same sentimental

> attachment with

> > Guruvayur and our dear Krishna.

> >

> > As Sarojaji mentioned in an earlier mail, " All of

> us are in the

> > samsara only and have not renounced the world " and

> sentimental

> > Bhakthi towards Guruvayoorappan is just a part of

> that samsara

> attachment.

> >

> > We all are blessed to have people like you who

> could narrate so well

> > in the group. I can definitely say I got a virtual

> darshan of HIM

> > through your mail and it also compelled me to

> visit Guruvayoor more

> > often.

> >

> > I would highly recommend you to take up writing as

> an alternative

> > profession as I am impressed with your ability of

> narration.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Loka Samstha Sukhino Bhavanthu.

> >

> > Om Namo Narayanaya:

> > Sunil.

> >

> > guruvayur , Syamala Nair

> <syamalaraghunath@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Jai Sreekrishna

> > >

> > > Further to our earlier message, I would like to

> share my

> > experience with Kannan when I had been at

> Gurupavanapuram in the

> > middle of last month with the members of this

> great group

> > >

> > > This time we spent five days at Guruvayoor so

> that we can have

> > more darshan of HIM.

> > > As all must be aware, now the line for Darshan

> does not go round

> > the temple. Now the entrance to the temple is

> restricted from East

> > Nada only and there is a fly over which takes us

> straight away to the

> > Sreekovil nada. By the grace of Kannan, we were

> able to witness most

> > of the poojas at different intervals

> > >

> > > For two days, we had to stand in the queue for

> nearly 3 hours

> > before we could reach the Sreekovil nada.Other

> three days it was not

> > that crowded.

> > >

> > > On one of the days, we were standing on the

> flyover waiting for

> > our turn. Although we three, myself, my daughter

> and we were standing

> > one after the other in the queue, each one was

> busy

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