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Well saidgirish girish m <vnkh wrote: Dear all,Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent raagas praising Sri Krishna.For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a gem. Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri Ramachandra. There are very few songs composed on Lord Krishna by Saint Thyagaraja. One famous example is "Samaja Vara Gamana" in raga Hindola where Sri Krishna is praised as "One whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant".So, how

do we come to any conclusion that this or that particular raaga is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing saint Thyagaraja's example, each song has same love for Lord and if he were to compose any song in any ragga, it would still be sweet because, it is rich in love and devotion.Even if there are raagas which Sri Krishna likes, suppose somebody with pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or no specific raaga at all just a few words) with genuine love, then Krishna would still like it as much his "favourite songs". Because, in my opinion, we can impress Krishna more with love and devotional service rather than by our scholarship in Carnatic music devoid of devotion.Bye.Girish.M.B.Tech. ECE.NITC. Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit. web address: http://www.geocities.com/sarojram18 http://freewebs.com/gitaclass

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I don't know whether you hv grasped the subject properly.Here a Memeber wanted to know whether the raga Punnagavarali is the favourite raga of Krishna. Your reply is not addressed to the subject.Instead you hv said that Thyagaraja had composed several ragas on Rama.That is not disputed.So too Annamacharya composed several songs in euology of Sri Venkateswara.I agree that any raga sung in favour of a Deity whether Krishna or anybody is ok.But the Member wanted to get a specific raga for Krishna which even Mrs.Saroja Ramanujam could not give a correct answer and said something in general terms.When you take a topic you must be specific to clear the doubt of the Member who raised the question which unfortunately you too hv not done.So many ppl hv sung in different ragas in favour of their Deities.Here the particular question is not answered by you or Mrs.Ramanujam.That is the difference.This is not in anyway to deride your thought but

not an answer to the question that was raised.girish girish m <vnkh wrote: Dear all,Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent raagas praising Sri Krishna.For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a gem. Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri Ramachandra. There are very few songs composed on Lord Krishna by Saint Thyagaraja. One famous example

is "Samaja Vara Gamana" in raga Hindola where Sri Krishna is praised as "One whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant".So, how do we come to any conclusion that this or that particular raaga is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing saint Thyagaraja's example, each song has same love for Lord and if he were to compose any song in any ragga, it would still be sweet because, it is rich in love and devotion.Even if there are raagas which Sri Krishna likes, suppose somebody with pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or no specific raaga at all just a few words) with genuine love, then Krishna would still like it as much his "favourite songs". Because, in my opinion, we can impress Krishna more with love and devotional service rather than by our scholarship in Carnatic music devoid of devotion.Bye.Girish.M.B.Tech. ECE.NITC.

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Dear Sree Girish Ji, My question is whether Sree Krishna has mentioned anywhere that He is "...." Raaga anywhere. Or any Bhagavathas or Azhavars has mentioned about His favourite Raaga anywhere? Or at least some hint of it, as Sree Saroja Ramanujam Ji mentioned clearly, there was no classifications of Raaga, at that time. Ideally, He needs no raaga or song or philosophy or not even an idol for worshipping Him - even not the Name - Sree Krishna. It is only "Bhavana" that He wants and expects - as mentioned in Lalitha Sahasranamam "BhavanaMaatra Santhushta Hridayaya Namaha". He/She is everything and everything is in Him. So, my question is not on philosophy, but on the character of Sree Krishna. He has mentioned about His other favourites in the Bhagavat Geetha. And one of my friends said that the favourite Raaga of Sree Krishna is Punnakavarali, but he has no reference for the

same. That's why I asked the learned members of this group. I am extremely sorry if I'm wrong. My prostrations to all the learned members of the group. Dr. Hari KrishnaOm Santhi Om Santhi Om Santhi GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote: I don't know whether you hv grasped the subject properly.Here a Memeber wanted to know whether the raga Punnagavarali is the favourite raga of Krishna. Your reply is not addressed to the

subject.Instead you hv said that Thyagaraja had composed several ragas on Rama.That is not disputed.So too Annamacharya composed several songs in euology of Sri Venkateswara.I agree that any raga sung in favour of a Deity whether Krishna or anybody is ok.But the Member wanted to get a specific raga for Krishna which even Mrs.Saroja Ramanujam could not give a correct answer and said something in general terms.When you take a topic you must be specific to clear the doubt of the Member who raised the question which unfortunately you too hv not done.So many ppl hv sung in different ragas in favour of their Deities.Here the particular question is not answered by you or Mrs.Ramanujam.That is the difference.This is not in anyway to deride your thought but not an answer to the question that was raised.girish girish m <vnkh (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear all,Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent raagas praising Sri Krishna.For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a gem. Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri Ramachandra. There are very few songs composed on Lord Krishna by Saint Thyagaraja. One famous example is "Samaja Vara Gamana" in raga Hindola where Sri Krishna is praised as "One whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant".So, how do we come to any conclusion that this or that particular raaga is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing saint Thyagaraja's example, each song has same love for Lord and if he were to compose any song in any ragga, it would still be sweet because, it is rich in love and devotion.Even if there are raagas which Sri Krishna likes, suppose somebody with pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or no specific raaga at all just a few

words) with genuine love, then Krishna would still like it as much his "favourite songs". Because, in my opinion, we can impress Krishna more with love and devotional service rather than by our scholarship in Carnatic music devoid of devotion.Bye.Girish.M.B.Tech. ECE.NITC. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how.

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Noone can reply directly to the question as there is no evidence of any raga being the favourite of Krishna. I think we are wasting time in this debate which I am not interested in. I find nothing wrong in what Girish girish has said. As I have said in my previous post there was no such ragas with thenames we know now in the time of Krishna. What is wrong in assuming that in whatever raga the devotee sings it becomes His favourite raga as he has said that His devotee is dearest to Him. To try to ascribe one raga as favourite or any one eb netity in this world as His favourite is meaningless because everything is His creation and the whole world is His masterpiece. It is better to end this pointless discussion by sayiing that whatever raga one sings in about the Lord it is His favourite. Krishna was not a performing musician to pinpoint His favourite raga.With this I pull out of this discussion. saroja RamanujamGANAPATHY RAMAN

<agraman62 wrote: I don't know whether you hv grasped the subject properly.Here a Memeber wanted to know whether the raga Punnagavarali is the favourite raga of Krishna. Your reply is not addressed to the subject.Instead you hv said that Thyagaraja had composed several ragas on Rama.That is not disputed.So too Annamacharya composed several songs in euology of Sri Venkateswara.I agree that any raga sung in favour of a Deity whether Krishna or anybody is ok.But the Member wanted to get a

specific raga for Krishna which even Mrs.Saroja Ramanujam could not give a correct answer and said something in general terms.When you take a topic you must be specific to clear the doubt of the Member who raised the question which unfortunately you too hv not done.So many ppl hv sung in different ragas in favour of their Deities.Here the particular question is not answered by you or Mrs.Ramanujam.That is the difference.This is not in anyway to deride your thought but not an answer to the question that was raised.girish girish m <vnkh (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear all,Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent raagas praising Sri Krishna.For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a gem. Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri

Ramachandra. There are very few songs composed on Lord Krishna by Saint Thyagaraja. One famous example is "Samaja Vara Gamana" in raga Hindola where Sri Krishna is praised as "One whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant".So, how do we come to any conclusion that this or that particular raaga is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing saint Thyagaraja's example, each song has same love for Lord and if he were to compose any song in any ragga, it would still be sweet because, it is rich in love and devotion.Even if there are raagas which Sri Krishna likes, suppose somebody with pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or no specific raaga at all just a few words) with genuine love, then Krishna would still like it as much his "favourite songs". Because, in my opinion, we can impress Krishna more with love and devotional service rather than by our scholarship in Carnatic music devoid of devotion.Bye.Girish.M.B.Tech.

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Dear all,

Radhe Krishna!

I am sure Krishna liked only one Raaga-----"ANU-RAAGA" Love and

Prematmaka-bhakti-- that is all he wanted.

 

Regards

KVG.

 

 

GANAPATHY RAMAN wrote:

 

 

I don't know whether you hv grasped the subject properly.Here a

Memeber wanted to know whether the raga Punnagavarali is the favourite

raga of Krishna.

Your reply is not addressed to the subject.Instead you hv said

that Thyagaraja had composed several ragas on Rama.That is not

disputed.So too Annamacharya composed several songs in euology of Sri

Venkateswara.I agree

that any raga sung in favour of a Deity whether Krishna or

anybody is ok.But the Member wanted to get a specific raga for Krishna

which even Mrs.Saroja Ramanujam could not give a correct answer and

said something in general terms.When you take a topic you must be

specific to clear the doubt of the Member who raised the question which

unfortunately you too hv not done.So many ppl hv sung in different

ragas in favour of their Deities.Here the particular

question is not answered by you or Mrs.Ramanujam.That is

the difference.This is not in anyway to deride your thought but not an

answer to the question that was raised.

 

girish girish m <vnkh (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear all,

 

Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent raagas

praising Sri Krishna.

 

For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a gem.

Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri Ramachandra. There

are very few songs composed on Lord Krishna by Saint Thyagaraja. One

famous example is "Samaja Vara Gamana" in raga Hindola where Sri

Krishna is praised as "One whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant".

 

So, how do we come to any conclusion that this or that particular raaga

is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing saint Thyagaraja's example,

each song has same love for Lord and if he were to compose any song in

any ragga, it would still be sweet because, it is rich in love and

devotion.

 

Even if there are raagas which Sri Krishna likes, suppose somebody with

pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or no specific raaga at all

just a few words) with genuine love, then Krishna would still like it

as much his "favourite songs". Because, in my opinion, we can impress

Krishna more with love and devotional service rather than by our

scholarship in Carnatic music devoid of devotion.

 

Bye.

 

 

 

 

Girish.M.

B.Tech. ECE.

NITC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Well said KVGji. Hats off to you!"K.V Gopalakrishna" <gopalakrishna.kv wrote: Dear all,Radhe Krishna!I am sure Krishna liked only one Raaga-----"ANU-RAAGA" Love and Prematmaka-bhakti-- that is all he wanted.RegardsKVG.GANAPATHY RAMAN wrote: I don't know whether you hv grasped the subject properly.Here a Memeber wanted to know

whether the raga Punnagavarali is the favourite raga of Krishna. Your reply is not addressed to the subject.Instead you hv said that Thyagaraja had composed several ragas on Rama.That is not disputed.So too Annamacharya composed several songs in euology of Sri Venkateswara.I agree that any raga sung in favour of a Deity whether Krishna or anybody is ok.But the Member wanted to get a specific raga for Krishna which even Mrs.Saroja Ramanujam could not give a correct answer and said something in general terms.When you take a topic you must be specific to clear the doubt of the Member who raised the question which unfortunately you too hv not done.So many ppl hv sung in different ragas in favour of their Deities.Here the particular question is not answered by you or Mrs.Ramanujam.That is the difference.This is not in anyway to deride your thought but not an answer to the question that was raised.girish girish m

<vnkh (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear all,Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent raagas praising Sri Krishna.For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a gem. Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri Ramachandra. There are very few songs composed on Lord Krishna by Saint Thyagaraja. One famous example is "Samaja Vara Gamana" in raga Hindola where Sri Krishna is praised as "One whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant".So, how do we come to any conclusion that this or that particular raaga is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing saint Thyagaraja's example, each song has same love for Lord and if he were to compose any song in any ragga, it would still be sweet because, it is rich in love and devotion.Even if there are raagas which Sri

Krishna likes, suppose somebody with pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or no specific raaga at all just a few words) with genuine love, then Krishna would still like it as much his "favourite songs". Because, in my opinion, we can impress Krishna more with love and devotional service rather than by our scholarship in Carnatic music devoid of devotion.Bye.Girish.M.B.Tech. ECE.NITC. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how.

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Dear all,

The present day ragas in music came into existence only after the 72

Mela-karthas, which are a product of the Kali-yuga. Hence we should

just understand that the music in its present form was not in existence

during the Dwapara yuga. I suggest we give up the debate on this subject.

 

Regards

KVG.

 

 

 

Saroja Ramanujam wrote:

 

> Noone can reply directly to the question as there is no evidence of

> any raga being the favourite of Krishna. I think we are wasting time

> in this debate which I am not interested in. I find nothing wrong in

> what Girish girish has said. As I have said in my previous post there

> was no such ragas with thenames we know now in the time of Krishna.

> What is wrong in assuming that in whatever raga the devotee sings it

> becomes His favourite raga as he has said that His devotee is dearest

> to Him. To try to ascribe one raga as favourite or any one eb netity

> in this world as His favourite is meaningless because everything is

> His creation and the whole world is His masterpiece. It is better to

> end this pointless discussion by sayiing that whatever raga one sings

> in about the Lord it is His favourite. Krishna was not a performing

> musician to pinpoint His favourite raga.With this I pull out of this

> discussion.

> saroja Ramanujam

>

> */GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62/* wrote:

>

> I don't know whether you hv grasped the subject properly.Here a

> Memeber wanted to know whether the raga Punnagavarali is the

> favourite raga of Krishna.

> Your reply is not addressed to the subject.Instead you hv said

> that Thyagaraja had composed several ragas on Rama.That is not

> disputed.So too Annamacharya composed several songs in euology of

> Sri Venkateswara.I agree

> that any raga sung in favour of a Deity whether Krishna or anybody

> is ok.But the Member wanted to get a specific raga for Krishna

> which even Mrs.Saroja Ramanujam could not give a correct answer

> and said something in general terms.When you take a topic you must

> be specific to clear the doubt of the Member who raised the

> question which unfortunately you too hv not done.So many ppl hv

> sung in different ragas in favour of their Deities.Here the

> particular

> question is not answered by you or Mrs.Ramanujam.That is the

> difference.This is not in anyway to deride your thought but not an

> answer to the question that was raised.

>

> */girish girish m <vnkh/* wrote:

>

>

> Dear all,

>

> Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent

> raagas praising Sri Krishna.

>

> For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a

> gem. Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri

> Ramachandra. There are very few songs composed on Lord Krishna

> by Saint Thyagaraja. One famous example is " Samaja Vara

> Gamana " in raga Hindola where Sri Krishna is praised as " One

> whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant " .

>

> So, how do we come to any conclusion that this or that

> particular raaga is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing

> saint Thyagaraja's example, each song has same love for Lord

> and if he were to compose any song in any ragga, it would

> still be sweet because, it is rich in love and devotion.

>

> Even if there are raagas which Sri Krishna likes, suppose

> somebody with pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or

> no specific raaga at all just a few words) with genuine love,

> then Krishna would still like it as much his " favourite

> songs " . Because, in my opinion, we can impress Krishna more

> with love and devotional service rather than by our

> scholarship in Carnatic music devoid of devotion.

>

> Bye.

>

>

>

> Girish.M.

> B.Tech. ECE.

> NITC.

>

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May be many ragas came into existence during the present yuga.With due respect to KVG, I understand that Ravana was a doyen in all the arts incl. vocal,instrumental esp.veena.That was the reason he preferred to put veena as an emblem in his flag.This naturally follows he must hv been versatile in carnatic ragas too.He was an ardent devotee of Siva and used to please Him with his music.So I feel it is not correct to say that there were no ragas during ancient times taking into consideration that Rama and Ravana lived before Krishnas time.Hence the ragas must hv been in existence during Dwapara yuga also. When Krishna says that He is such and such meter,month,season,rishi,archer etc why He failed to say in raga also He is such and such raga may not be the present ragas but a differnt raga.Perhaps Krishna wanted Him to be the other things and evidently must not hv given much importance to ragas which He must hv left to posterity.Of course we

are not concerned which raga is the favourite one of Krishna as we can presume all ragas are His favourites sung with bhava and bhakthy. This topic is not that important for a detailed discussion ,just like eversomany other topics on which lot of comments come in the Group on silly things.Since a friend raised this it is out of curiosity only further discussions came.Now from the discussion it is evident nobody is sure of the raga which is a favourite one of Krishna.So as KVG said it is better to leave the matter as it is as time need not be wasted on a topic the answer for which nobody knows or can give..In this I agree with Mrs.Ramanujam for the candid reply that Krishna was not a good musician to perform ragas and the ragas during His time also might not be that of the present one.But she too admits that there must hv been ragas during His time also.That admission from a good scholar who also says she is not

sure of the ragas during Krishnas period makes one feel there is no need for further discussion and can treat the discussion as closed without result."K.V Gopalakrishna" <gopalakrishna.kv wrote: Dear all,The present day ragas in music came into existence only after the 72 Mela-karthas, which are a product of the Kali-yuga. Hence we should just understand that the music in its present form was not

in existence during the Dwapara yuga. I suggest we give up the debate on this subject.RegardsKVG.Saroja Ramanujam wrote:> Noone can reply directly to the question as there is no evidence of > any raga being the favourite of Krishna. I think we are wasting time > in this debate which I am not interested in. I find nothing wrong in > what Girish girish has said. As I have said in my previous post there > was no such ragas with thenames we know now in the time of Krishna. > What is wrong in assuming that in whatever raga the devotee sings it > becomes His favourite raga as he has said that His devotee is dearest > to Him. To try to ascribe one raga as favourite or any one eb netity > in this world as His favourite is meaningless because everything is > His creation and the whole world is His masterpiece. It is better to > end this pointless discussion by sayiing that

whatever raga one sings > in about the Lord it is His favourite. Krishna was not a performing > musician to pinpoint His favourite raga.With this I pull out of this > discussion.> saroja Ramanujam>> */GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 (AT) (DOT) co.in>/* wrote:>> I don't know whether you hv grasped the subject properly.Here a> Memeber wanted to know whether the raga Punnagavarali is the> favourite raga of Krishna.> Your reply is not addressed to the subject.Instead you hv said> that Thyagaraja had composed several ragas on Rama.That is not> disputed.So too Annamacharya composed several songs in euology of> Sri Venkateswara.I agree> that any raga sung in favour of a Deity whether Krishna or anybody> is ok.But the Member wanted to get a specific raga for Krishna> which even Mrs.Saroja Ramanujam could not give

a correct answer> and said something in general terms.When you take a topic you must> be specific to clear the doubt of the Member who raised the> question which unfortunately you too hv not done.So many ppl hv> sung in different ragas in favour of their Deities.Here the> particular> question is not answered by you or Mrs.Ramanujam.That is the> difference.This is not in anyway to deride your thought but not an> answer to the question that was raised.>> */girish girish m <vnkh (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>> Dear all,>> Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent> raagas praising Sri Krishna.>> For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a> gem. Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri> Ramachandra. There are very few songs composed on Lord

Krishna> by Saint Thyagaraja. One famous example is "Samaja Vara> Gamana" in raga Hindola where Sri Krishna is praised as "One> whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant".>> So, how do we come to any conclusion that this or that> particular raaga is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing> saint Thyagaraja's example, each song has same love for Lord> and if he were to compose any song in any ragga, it would> still be sweet because, it is rich in love and devotion.>> Even if there are raagas which Sri Krishna likes, suppose> somebody with pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or> no specific raaga at all just a few words) with genuine love,> then Krishna would still like it as much his "favourite> songs". Because, in my opinion, we can impress Krishna more> with love and devotional service rather than by our> scholarship in Carnatic music devoid of

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Hare Krishna, From the series of Discussion on regarding the Ragas which like more to Kannan. What ever most of them have discussed is correct in terms of our thinking. But I defenitly feel that there is one Ragas which likes him more.The curiosity to know more will leads to deep involment on Kannan's life.Ofcourse we will get the answer if there is anything exists. With Love, SreeGANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote: May be many ragas came into existence during the present yuga.With due respect to KVG, I understand that Ravana was a doyen in all the arts incl. vocal,instrumental esp.veena.That was the reason he preferred to put veena as an emblem in his flag.This naturally follows he must hv been versatile in carnatic ragas too.He was an ardent devotee of Siva and used to please Him with his music.So I feel it is not correct to say that there were no ragas during ancient times taking into consideration that Rama and Ravana lived before Krishnas time.Hence the ragas must hv

been in existence during Dwapara yuga also. When Krishna says that He is such and such meter,month,season,rishi,archer etc why He failed to say in raga also He is such and such raga may not be the present ragas but a differnt raga.Perhaps Krishna wanted Him to be the other things and evidently must not hv given much importance to ragas which He must hv left to posterity.Of course we are not concerned which raga is the favourite one of Krishna as we can presume all ragas are His favourites sung with bhava and bhakthy. This topic is not that important for a detailed discussion ,just like eversomany other topics on which lot of comments come in the Group on silly things.Since a friend raised this it is out of curiosity only further discussions came.Now from the discussion it is evident nobody is sure of the raga which is a favourite one of Krishna.So as KVG said it is better

to leave the matter as it is as time need not be wasted on a topic the answer for which nobody knows or can give..In this I agree with Mrs.Ramanujam for the candid reply that Krishna was not a good musician to perform ragas and the ragas during His time also might not be that of the present one.But she too admits that there must hv been ragas during His time also.That admission from a good scholar who also says she is not sure of the ragas during Krishnas period makes one feel there is no need for further discussion and can treat the discussion as closed without result."K.V Gopalakrishna" <gopalakrishna.kv > wrote: Dear all,The present day ragas in music came into existence only after the 72 Mela-karthas, which are a product of the Kali-yuga. Hence we should just understand that the

music in its present form was not in existence during the Dwapara yuga. I suggest we give up the debate on this subject.RegardsKVG.Saroja Ramanujam wrote:> Noone can reply directly to the question as there is no evidence of > any raga being the favourite of Krishna. I think we are wasting time > in this debate which I am not interested in. I find nothing wrong in > what Girish girish has said. As I have said in my previous post there > was no such ragas with thenames we know now in the time of Krishna. > What is wrong in assuming that in whatever raga the devotee sings it > becomes His favourite raga as he has said that His devotee is dearest > to Him. To try to ascribe one raga as favourite or any one eb netity > in this world as His favourite is meaningless because everything is > His creation and the whole world is His masterpiece. It is better to > end this

pointless discussion by sayiing that whatever raga one sings > in about the Lord it is His favourite. Krishna was not a performing > musician to pinpoint His favourite raga.With this I pull out of this > discussion.> saroja Ramanujam>> */GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 (AT) (DOT) co.in>/* wrote:>> I don't know whether you hv grasped the subject properly.Here a> Memeber wanted to know whether the raga Punnagavarali is the> favourite raga of Krishna.> Your reply is not addressed to the subject.Instead you hv said> that Thyagaraja had composed several ragas on Rama.That is not> disputed.So too Annamacharya composed several songs in euology of> Sri Venkateswara.I agree> that any raga sung in favour of a Deity whether Krishna or anybody> is ok.But the Member wanted to get a specific raga for Krishna> which even

Mrs.Saroja Ramanujam could not give a correct answer> and said something in general terms.When you take a topic you must> be specific to clear the doubt of the Member who raised the> question which unfortunately you too hv not done.So many ppl hv> sung in different ragas in favour of their Deities.Here the> particular> question is not answered by you or Mrs.Ramanujam.That is the> difference.This is not in anyway to deride your thought but not an> answer to the question that was raised.>> */girish girish m <vnkh (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>> Dear all,>> Many great devotees have composed several songs in diferent> raagas praising Sri Krishna.>> For example, saint Thyagaraja's compositions - each one is a> gem. Because, each song is saturated with love for Sri> Ramachandra. There

are very few songs composed on Lord Krishna> by Saint Thyagaraja. One famous example is "Samaja Vara> Gamana" in raga Hindola where Sri Krishna is praised as "One> whose walk is as majestic as an Elephant".>> So, how do we come to any conclusion that this or that> particular raaga is Krishna's favourite ? Because, by seeing> saint Thyagaraja's example, each song has same love for Lord> and if he were to compose any song in any ragga, it would> still be sweet because, it is rich in love and devotion.>> Even if there are raagas which Sri Krishna likes, suppose> somebody with pure heart composes any song in any raaga ( or> no specific raaga at all just a few words) with genuine love,> then Krishna would still like it as much his "favourite> songs". Because, in my opinion, we can impress Krishna more> with love and devotional service rather than by our>

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