[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] All are welcome to Guruvayoor temple..my opinion.. Wonderfullllllllllllllllll...

September 7, 2007

HARI AUM

Wonderful Krishnadayaji.

This is all what we are supposed to do. When we let

our 'faculties' (body/mind/spirit)function without a

trace of bias we move towards 'yoga'.It is high time

that we take knowledge and spread it transparently.

Let us delve into the depths of 'abundance' and

discard totally the influences of 'scarcity' thinking.

It is then the 'blessings' begin.

Bhagavan wants everyone to 'really understand' what he

said - " ..vimarshyathathaashshena yadhechassi thatha

kuru. "

This is the great vedic tradition where in the vedic

forums the 'concepts' were analysed threadbare. Even

the great Rama listened to a humble 'dhobi'.

Regards

Balagopal

NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA

--- krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:

>

> Krishna ! Guruvayoorappa ! Dear Bhaktas ,

>

> It is very difficult to itemize the ` Kshetra

> Acharas ` (

> customs applicable to temple) . I am trying it ,

> but it is not at all

> my intention to do fault finding . Please forgive me

> for any

> inappropriate words.

>

> Kindly note the following :

>

> 1) Bhatkti-Yoga itself is beyond the realm of

> logic and

> speculation. It can't be explained or verified by

> the limited

> parameters of Science . So, too `Kshetra acharas' .

> Only a small

> percentage of the universe is known to the science .

> So, can we reject

> the unknown as non-existent ? .

>

> 2) `Devaswom' means Deva's own . Bhagavan or

> His Tantri

> decides about the temple and not the general public.

> Tantri is

> Bhagavan's authorized representative. The existing

> laws of the

> constitution stipulates this fact .

>

> 3) Sanatana Vedic Dharma is rooted on faith

> in the Vedas .

> According to it, `Mlechas' are ineligible to enter

> vedic

> temples . If a `Mlecha' unconditionally accepts the

> Vedic way of

> life , he has become a Hindu and can enter any

> temple including

> Guruvayoor . There is no scope for part-time vedic

> belief just to enter

> a temple . Since childhood, the Hindus, are

> systematically educated on

> the several " do's and don't do's " of Deity worship

> . On the other hand , the non-Hindus are taught that

> Deity-worship is a

> serious offence to God.

>

> 4) The `Aura' (Deva-Chaithanyam) of a

> temple-Deity depends

> on :

>

> a) Tapa-sakthi of Tantri

> (Acharyan) and his

> performance of Vedic duties .

>

> b) The Poojaari's discipline and

> earnest performance of

> the rites and rituals prescribed by Tantri .

>

> c) Compliance of all regulatory

> principles applicable

> to that temple.

>

> d) Faithful worship by the

> Bhaktas.

>

> e) Annadana ( giving `Prasadam') .

>

> f) Ulsavam .( " Festival " which

> rectifies the

> shortcomings in the Poojas, and other devotional

> matters ) .

>

> The ancient vedic temples were established by great

> Rishis . They were

> " Trikala-jnanis " ( knowing the past, present and

> future) . At the

> time of " Prana-prathishta " (transferring the aura of

> God to

> energize the Deity), they prescribed specific

> Moola-mantra (basic

> Mantra) and associated regulatory principles for

> the continuation of

> " aura " on the Deity . Many living in this age of

> deterioration

> (Kali) think that they are wiser than these

> " outdated " Rishis

> and could change their ancient prescriptions to

> suit with the modern

> era . Hence, their desire to amend item © above

> . However , they

> forget the fact that , Guruvayoorappan Himself had

> asked Adi

> Shankaracharya to establish the rules and

> regulations for His temple ;

> and that item © can't be changed without

> Bhagavan's permission

> .

>

> Uniqueness of Each Vedic Temple

>

> Each temple is unique . At the time of

> `Prana-Prathishta' , the

> Rishi or Acharyan has used own `sadhana' to

> energize the Deity

> according to his idea . As a result of it's unique

> " moola-mantra " , each Deity has specific

> characteristics that

> are different from another Deity of the same God ,

> say Sreekrishna . For

> example , there is an interesting narration in Shree

> Kottarathil

> Shanksunni's masterpiece book " Iythihyamala " :

>

> " Fearing the invasion of Tippu Sulatan , the Deity

> of

> Guruvayoorappan was shifted to Ambalappuzha

> Sreekrishnaswamy temple .

> Guravayoorappan's Deity was seated at a spot in the

> temple and

> offered daily poojas there . However , the

> non-compatibility of Pooja

> rituals between the Ambalappuzha and Guruavayoor ,

> started causing

> problems ( such as impurities in the `Amblappuzha

> palpayasm' and

> sour taste to the ` Guruvayoor payasm' ). Because of

> this ,

> Guruvayoorappan's Deity was later shifted to

> Mavelikkara

> Sreekrishnaswamy temple " .

>

> Although , both these Deities are that of

> Sreekrishna , their characters

> are different . The concerned Rishi installed his

> favourite Deity

> providing it with a character according to his wish

> . The concept

> " God is one " is not really applicable to the temple

> Deity . In

> Guruvayoor temple , Bhagavan consumes mango-pickles

> with the meals on a

> particular day . Such uniqueness exists for each

> Deity . It is due to

> this uniqueness that , non-Hindus are allowed in

> certain temples and not

> in some others . A devotee must have unconditional

> faith in the

> prescribed traditions unless he is adequately

> qualified to handle the

> " Prana-prathishta " better than the Rishi who had

> installed that

> Deity .

>

> Very Serious Threat to Guruvayoor Temple

>

> In view of the eagerness of some of our friends to

> open-up the

> Guruvayoor temple to all non-Hindus , let me point

> out certain ground

> realities at Guruvayoor .

>

> One can enter the temple only after passing through

> the metal detectors

> and security check-up because, both the state and

> union intelligence

> departments have detected extremist moves to

> blown-up the temple . The

> gateway to Guruvayoor is " Chavakkadu " ( formerly

> `Shapakkadu `) . When many vedic believers of this

> place

> converted to the " Mlecha religion' , the Brahmanas

> cursed that

> place and went away . Hence, that place came to be

> known as Shapakkadu)

> . `Chavakkadu' is the headquarters of underworld

> in

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September 8, 2007

Hare Krishna, Wonderful Discussion.Here we comes to a Pragamatic state of mind where it can not explain certain thing.It need to be experienced.Really feel good and blessed that some of them reached to such a stage of Level. May Kannan blessing always there. With Love, Sree balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote: HARI AUMWonderful Krishnadayaji.This is all what we are supposed to do. When we letour 'faculties' (body/mind/spirit)function without atrace of bias we move towards 'yoga'.It is high timethat we take knowledge and spread it transparently.Let us delve into the depths of 'abundance' anddiscard totally the influences of 'scarcity' thinking.It is then the 'blessings' begin.Bhagavan wants everyone to 'really understand' what hesaid - "..vimarshyathathaashshena yadhechassi thathakuru." This is the great vedic tradition where in the vedicforums the 'concepts' were analysed threadbare. Eventhe great Rama listened to a humble 'dhobi'.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA --- krishnadaya <krishnadaya > wrote:> > Krishna ! Guruvayoorappa ! Dear Bhaktas ,> > > > It is very difficult to itemize the ` Kshetra> Acharas ` (> customs applicable to temple) . I am trying it ,> but it is not at all> my intention to do fault finding . Please forgive me> for any> inappropriate words.> > > > Kindly note the following :> > > > 1) Bhatkti-Yoga itself is beyond the realm of> logic and> speculation. It can't be explained or verified by> the limited> parameters of Science . So, too `Kshetra acharas' .> Only a small> percentage of the universe is known to the science .> So, can we reject> the unknown as non-existent ? .> > 2) `Devaswom' means Deva's own . Bhagavan or> His Tantri> decides about

the temple and not the general public.> Tantri is> Bhagavan's authorized representative. The existing> laws of the> constitution stipulates this fact .> > 3) Sanatana Vedic Dharma is rooted on faith> in the Vedas .> According to it, `Mlechas' are ineligible to enter> vedic> temples . If a `Mlecha' unconditionally accepts the> Vedic way of> life , he has become a Hindu and can enter any> temple including> Guruvayoor . There is no scope for part-time vedic> belief just to enter> a temple . Since childhood, the Hindus, are> systematically educated on> the several " do's and don't do's" of Deity worship> . On the other hand , the non-Hindus are taught that> Deity-worship is a> serious offence to God.> > > > 4) The `Aura' (Deva-Chaithanyam) of a> temple-Deity depends> on :> > a)

Tapa-sakthi of Tantri> (Acharyan) and his> performance of Vedic duties .> > b) The Poojaari's discipline and> earnest performance of> the rites and rituals prescribed by Tantri .> > c) Compliance of all regulatory> principles applicable> to that temple.> > d) Faithful worship by the> Bhaktas.> > e) Annadana ( giving `Prasadam') .> > f) Ulsavam .( "Festival" which> rectifies the> shortcomings in the Poojas, and other devotional> matters ) .> > > > The ancient vedic temples were established by great> Rishis . They were> "Trikala-jnanis"( knowing the past, present and> future) . At the> time of "Prana-prathishta" (transferring the aura of> God to> energize the Deity), they prescribed specific> Moola-mantra (basic> Mantra) and associated regulatory

principles for > the continuation of> "aura" on the Deity . Many living in this age of> deterioration> (Kali) think that they are wiser than these> "outdated" Rishis> and could change their ancient prescriptions to> suit with the modern> era . Hence, their desire to amend item © above> . However , they> forget the fact that , Guruvayoorappan Himself had> asked Adi> Shankaracharya to establish the rules and> regulations for His temple ;> and that item © can't be changed without> Bhagavan's permission> .> > > > Uniqueness of Each Vedic Temple> > > > Each temple is unique . At the time of > `Prana-Prathishta' , the> Rishi or Acharyan has used own `sadhana' to> energize the Deity> according to his idea . As a result of it's unique> "moola-mantra" , each Deity has

specific> characteristics that> are different from another Deity of the same God ,> say Sreekrishna . For> example , there is an interesting narration in Shree> Kottarathil> Shanksunni's masterpiece book "Iythihyamala" :> > > > "Fearing the invasion of Tippu Sulatan , the Deity> of> Guruvayoorappan was shifted to Ambalappuzha> Sreekrishnaswamy temple .> Guravayoorappan's Deity was seated at a spot in the> temple and > offered daily poojas there . However , the> non-compatibility of Pooja> rituals between the Ambalappuzha and Guruavayoor ,> started causing > problems ( such as impurities in the `Amblappuzha> palpayasm' and> sour taste to the ` Guruvayoor payasm' ). Because of> this ,> Guruvayoorappan's Deity was later shifted to> Mavelikkara> Sreekrishnaswamy temple".> >

> > Although , both these Deities are that of> Sreekrishna , their characters> are different . The concerned Rishi installed his> favourite Deity> providing it with a character according to his wish> . The concept> "God is one" is not really applicable to the temple> Deity . In> Guruvayoor temple , Bhagavan consumes mango-pickles> with the meals on a> particular day . Such uniqueness exists for each> Deity . It is due to> this uniqueness that , non-Hindus are allowed in> certain temples and not> in some others . A devotee must have unconditional > faith in the> prescribed traditions unless he is adequately > qualified to handle the > "Prana-prathishta" better than the Rishi who had> installed that> Deity .> > > > Very Serious Threat to Guruvayoor Temple> > > > In

view of the eagerness of some of our friends to> open-up the> Guruvayoor temple to all non-Hindus , let me point> out certain ground > realities at Guruvayoor .> > > > One can enter the temple only after passing through> the metal detectors> and security check-up because, both the state and> union intelligence> departments have detected extremist moves to> blown-up the temple . The> gateway to Guruvayoor is " Chavakkadu " ( formerly > `Shapakkadu `) . When many vedic believers of this> place> converted to the "Mlecha religion' , the Brahmanas> cursed that> place and went away . Hence, that place came to be> known as Shapakkadu)> . `Chavakkadu' is the headquarters of underworld> in === message truncated ===Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Go to http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php/

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