Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dont know what to do - to laugh or to cry or to sympathize or ignore for having such a view. Finally decided to scribble few lines and express my view . To be yourself u need to KNOW who are u? KO AHAM? Only HUMANS are privileged to gain knowledge and step in a higher level of ADHYATMA. After many highs and lows of various BIRTHS you get a human life - a chance to seek liberation. Liberation from life and death cycle. The moment u realize u r not different from THE SUPREME , U r SUPREME YOURSELF - u r liberated. But that is not achieved so easily. Hence knowledge " GYANA " is very important. Now if u use ur knowledge to gain number of cars and houses , number of jewels and properties then u r on all together a different track. A track of competition - with urself and others -and with the world and THAT TRACK DOESNT TAKE YOU TO ACTUAL PURPOSE OF LIFE FOR HUMANS. The lost beings do not know their purpose - their aim of life . When they see the various richness and comforts of the mundane world they think thats all they have to achieve. There is the mistake. And knowledge becomes harmful. Half knowledge - wrong knowledge lack of knowledge to use KNOWLEDGE etc. all produce side effects. Side effects of loosing ur original track - the track to achieve all the four PURUSHARTHAS - DHARMA , ARTHA , KAMA & MOKSHA. JAI SRI KRISHNA!!! Dr. Varsha Dubai guruvayur , " Soumya Vinod " <soumya0406 wrote: > > Forget About Knowledge: Just Be Yourself > > How can i be myself if I don't know myself? > > Whether you know or not, you cannot be other than yourself. To be yourself, > knowledge is not needed. A rosebush is a rosebush. Not that the rosebush > knows that it is a rosebush. A rock is a rock. Not that the rock knows that > it is a rock. Knowledge is not needed. In fact, it is because of knowledge > that you are missing being yourself. > > Knowledge is creating the problem. The rosebush is not confused. Every day > it goes on being a rosebush. Not even for a single day does it become > confused. It does not start some morning growing mari-golds; it goes on > being a rosebush. Knowledge is not needed for being. In fact, you are > missing your being because of knowledge. > > I was reading about a certain man named Dudley: To celebrate Uncle Dudley's > 75th birthday, an aviation enthusiast offered to take him for a plane ride > over the little West Virginia town where he had spent all his life. Uncle > Dudley accepted the offer. > > Back on the ground, after circling over the town 20 minutes, he was asked: > " Were you scared, Uncle Dudley? " " No " , was the hesitant answer, " but i never > did put my full weight down " . > > In an airplane, whether you put your full weight down or not, the weight is > carried by the airplane. Whether you know yourself or not is not the point. > Knowledge is disturbing you. Just think if there was a rock also on that > airplane with Uncle Dudley, the rock would have put the whole weight down. > Uncle Dudley is unnecessarily worried. He could have rested, he could have > relaxed just like the rock, but the rock has no knowledge and Uncle Dudley > has knowledge. > > The whole problem of huma-nity is that humanity knows, and because of > knowing, the being is unnecessarily forgotten. > > Meditation is how to drop knowledge. Meditation means how to become ignorant > again. Meditation means how to become a child again, a rosebush, a rock. > Meditation means how just to be and not to think. > > When i say to you to be yourself, i mean meditate. Don't try to be anybody > else. You cannot be! You can try, and you can deceive yourself and you can > promise yourself and you can hope that someday you will become somebody > else, but you cannot become. These are only illusions that you can go on > having. These are dreams. They are not going to become realities ever. You > will remain yourself whatsoever you do. > > Why not relax, Uncle Dudley! Put your full weight on the airplane. Relax. In > relaxation, suddenly you will start enjoying your being, and the effort to > be somebody else will stop. That is your worry how to be somebody else, how > to be like somebody else, how to become like a Buddha, how to become like > Patanjali. You can only be yourself. Accept it, rejoice in it, delight in > it. Relax. > > Zen Masters say to their disciples, " Beware of Buddha. If you meet him on > the way, kill him immediately " . What do they mean? They mean there is a > human tendency to become imitators. There is a book, Imitation Of Christ. In > a way, that title is very symbolic. It shows the whole mind of humanity. > People are trying to imitate, to become somebody else. > > Nobody can become a Christ. There is no need. Existence will be bored if you > become Christ. It wants somebody new, something original. It wants you, and > it wants you to be just yourself. > > Excerpted from The Alpha and The Omega. Courtesy: Osho International > Foundation. Website: www.osho.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Thank you bh.ovidiu! I would just like to quote few slokas from Gita chapter 3 Kama esha krodha esha rajo guna samudhbhavah mahashano mahapapma viddyenam iha vairinam! Dhumenaavriyate vahnir yathadarso malaene cha yatholbenavrto garbhas tatha tenedam avritam! avrtam jnanametena jnanino nitya vairina kamarupena kaunteya duspurenanalena cha! Indriyani mano buddhir asyadhisthanam uchyate etair vimohayatyesha jnanam avritya dehinam! tasmat tvam indriyanyadauniyamya bharatarsabha papmanam prajahi hyenam jnana vijnana NASANAM! Lord krishna said it is lust which becimes anger arising from the mode of passion: know this lust to be insatiable, extremely sinful and the greatest enemy in this world. Just as fire is covered by smoke , as mirror by dust and embryo is covered by womb SO IS THE KNOWLEDGE COVERED BY LUST. The discrimination of even the knowledgeable is covered by this perpetual enemy in the form of lust , which is like an unsatiable fire. It is declared that the senses , the mind and the intelligence are the stronghold of this lust, covering one's discrimination this enemy of listdeludes the living entities. THEREFORE FIRST YOU MUST BRING THE SENSES UNDER CONTROL AND DIRECTLY DESTROY THIS LUST WHICH IS THE EMBODIMENT OF SIN AND THE DESTROYER OF KNOWLEDGE AND REALIZATION. JAI SRI KRISHNA Dr. Varsha Dubai guruvayur , Ovidiu Deleanu <deleanuovidiu wrote: > > Dear Dr. Varsha! > > You are fully right... not knowing to laugh or to cry. > Bur Sri Krsna said in Bhagabat-Gita that we have to lament nor for the living neither for the dead. > So instead of arguing with people who are too puft-up to understand that exist a Supreme Person, and that This is Krsna, better is to speak of Krsna. > So the impersonalist or atheist will also benefit. > And to think that without Sri Guru is possible to understand Krsna katha is simply foulishness. > But I am not entiteled to impose to someone what to think... > Krsna in his form of Kala will teach everybody. > And when they will be ready they will meet their Guru. > I pray for them to have this chance as soon as possible. > I have it and I am so gratefull: > " om ajnana timmirandasya > jnanan jnana salakaya > caksur unmilitam jena > tasmai sri gurave namaha " > So I have to be ever gratefull to Sri Guru because he have taken me out of the ignorance, guiding me with the torch of light. > > Jaya Sri Krsna! > Jaya Gurudeva! > > Your servant. > Bh. Ovidiu > > > Varsha <drvknaik wrote: > > Dont know what to do - to laugh or to cry or to sympathize or ignore > for having such a view. Finally decided to scribble few lines and > express my view . > > To be yourself u need to KNOW who are u? KO AHAM? > Only HUMANS are privileged to gain knowledge and step in a higher > level of ADHYATMA. After many highs and lows of various BIRTHS you > get a human life - a chance to seek liberation. Liberation from life > and death cycle. The moment u realize u r not different from THE > SUPREME , U r SUPREME YOURSELF - u r liberated. But that is not > achieved so easily. Hence knowledge " GYANA " is very important. > > Now if u use ur knowledge to gain number of cars and houses , number > of jewels and properties then u r on all together a different track. > A track of competition - with urself and others -and with the world > and THAT TRACK DOESNT TAKE YOU TO ACTUAL PURPOSE OF LIFE FOR HUMANS. > The lost beings do not know their purpose - their aim of life . When > they see the various richness and comforts of the mundane world they > think thats all they have to achieve. There is the mistake. And > knowledge becomes harmful. Half knowledge - wrong knowledge lack of > knowledge to use KNOWLEDGE etc. all produce side effects. Side > effects of loosing ur original track - the track to achieve all the > four PURUSHARTHAS - DHARMA , ARTHA , KAMA & MOKSHA. > > JAI SRI KRISHNA!!! > Dr. Varsha > Dubai > > guruvayur , " Soumya Vinod " <soumya0406@> > wrote: > > > > Forget About Knowledge: Just Be Yourself > > > > How can i be myself if I don't know myself? > > > > Whether you know or not, you cannot be other than yourself. To be > yourself, > > knowledge is not needed. A rosebush is a rosebush. Not that the > rosebush > > knows that it is a rosebush. A rock is a rock. Not that the rock > knows that > > it is a rock. Knowledge is not needed. In fact, it is because of > knowledge > > that you are missing being yourself. > > > > Knowledge is creating the problem. The rosebush is not confused. > Every day > > it goes on being a rosebush. Not even for a single day does it > become > > confused. It does not start some morning growing mari-golds; it > goes on > > being a rosebush. Knowledge is not needed for being. In fact, you > are > > missing your being because of knowledge. > > > > I was reading about a certain man named Dudley: To celebrate Uncle > Dudley's > > 75th birthday, an aviation enthusiast offered to take him for a > plane ride > > over the little West Virginia town where he had spent all his > life. Uncle > > Dudley accepted the offer. > > > > Back on the ground, after circling over the town 20 minutes, he > was asked: > > " Were you scared, Uncle Dudley? " " No " , was the hesitant > answer, " but i never > > did put my full weight down " . > > > > In an airplane, whether you put your full weight down or not, the > weight is > > carried by the airplane. Whether you know yourself or not is not > the point. > > Knowledge is disturbing you. Just think if there was a rock also > on that > > airplane with Uncle Dudley, the rock would have put the whole > weight down. > > Uncle Dudley is unnecessarily worried. He could have rested, he > could have > > relaxed just like the rock, but the rock has no knowledge and > Uncle Dudley > > has knowledge. > > > > The whole problem of huma-nity is that humanity knows, and because > of > > knowing, the being is unnecessarily forgotten. > > > > Meditation is how to drop knowledge. Meditation means how to > become ignorant > > again. Meditation means how to become a child again, a rosebush, a > rock. > > Meditation means how just to be and not to think. > > > > When i say to you to be yourself, i mean meditate. Don't try to be > anybody > > else. You cannot be! You can try, and you can deceive yourself and > you can > > promise yourself and you can hope that someday you will become > somebody > > else, but you cannot become. These are only illusions that you can > go on > > having. These are dreams. They are not going to become realities > ever. You > > will remain yourself whatsoever you do. > > > > Why not relax, Uncle Dudley! Put your full weight on the airplane. > Relax. In > > relaxation, suddenly you will start enjoying your being, and the > effort to > > be somebody else will stop. That is your worry how to be somebody > else, how > > to be like somebody else, how to become like a Buddha, how to > become like > > Patanjali. You can only be yourself. Accept it, rejoice in it, > delight in > > it. Relax. > > > > Zen Masters say to their disciples, " Beware of Buddha. If you meet > him on > > the way, kill him immediately " . What do they mean? They mean there > is a > > human tendency to become imitators. There is a book, Imitation Of > Christ. In > > a way, that title is very symbolic. It shows the whole mind of > humanity. > > People are trying to imitate, to become somebody else. > > > > Nobody can become a Christ. There is no need. Existence will be > bored if you > > become Christ. It wants somebody new, something original. It wants > you, and > > it wants you to be just yourself. > > > > Excerpted from The Alpha and The Omega. Courtesy: Osho > International > > Foundation. Website: www.osho.com. > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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