Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Dear Sreejith, It is NOT COMPULSORY for a brahmin to be a VEGETARIAN. However, brahmins prefer to be vegetarians because it promotes SATWA GUNA. Even, there is a secion of Brahmins who perform MRUGA BALI. In my house, my wife does not take even Onions or any English Vegetables. ! Best wishes and warm regards, P.R.Radhakrishnan On 30/10/2007, sreejith kp <srjithkp wrote: " Oom Eka danthaya VidMahE Vakrathundata DhiMaHE Thano danthi Prachothayat " Hi, " Namasthe to ALL " Actually I have a doubt. I have seen that Brahmins arevegetarians. Is it compulsory for a brahmin to be strictly vegetarian? Any book says to be so? The reason for this doubt is that in great " MAHABHARATHA " i have read that during the great " yagas " by kings, allthe brahmins are invited and served food (collected byhunting including pork,deer...). I have also read the story of the great sage " Agasthya " . Once his wife " LOpamudra " asked him to grab wealth for her.He at once set for that.First he went to kings andthey were unable to help him.At last he went to a cruel but wealthy demon named " Illuala " who had a brother named " Vaathapi " .Killing brahmins by tricks were theirhobby. When Agasthya reached his palace he warmly welcomed him.As per the plan his brother turned to a goat and served himself as a dish to " Agastya " (he had magical powers). But he was trapped inside Agasthya's stomach and burned to death by the great sage's gastric juices.Other wise he would have come out piercing Agasthya's stomach when hearing a call from his brother. The above are the reasons for my doubt. I will be thankful if anyone resolves it. Thanks Regards,Sreejith. Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. -- Rrpallassana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Sree Seetha Ramo Vijayathe Sada Dear Sreejit thankalude chodyathinulla utharam muzhuvanyum parayan enikariyilla As per the Dharmasastram, "The Manu Smrithi" flesh eating is not allowed for ny one in the world because as you know we dont hv the power to give jeevan any one in the world. so its better to avoid it. Then about yaagas its not for our self, its the rituals done on that kaala, now in this kaliyuga its not mandatory to do these kind of hathyas in yagas. Yagathinayi kollunna mrigathinte mamasam orikkalum sadyayi vilambiyirunnilla, its called as the "yagnasesham'. THe yagnasesham kashicha brahmanan pinne 7 days avante yathoru karmavum cheyyan padilla, excluding the gayathri japam, its y because the papam of the eating of flesh to b removed frm his atma. Think he cant chant vedas also. after the 7 days he should do the "kricha" and "chaandram" vrithas for the next ayanam full. And in "Agasthyas" story, they r killing the asuras only to destroy the demons, not to eat flesh.its for good. ithokeye enikkariyu, Enthayalum wester countries also converting and accepting our culture, and we are looking to wester culture, dressing,eating,drinking,life partner,education,culture etc in christianity also they have a branch that they are not using non veg in their life\ Sree Seetha Ramo Vijayathe Sadaa Krishnakumar sreejith kp <srjithkp wrote: " Oom Eka danthaya VidMahE Vakrathundata DhiMaHE Thano danthi Prachothayat " Hi, "Namasthe to ALL" Actually I have a doubt. I have seen that Brahmins arevegetarians. Is it compulsory for a brahmin to be strictly vegetarian? Any book says to be so? The reason for this doubt is that in great "MAHABHARATHA"i have read that during the great "yagas" by kings, allthe brahmins are invited and served food (collected byhunting including pork,deer...). I have also read the story of the great sage "Agasthya".Once his wife "LOpamudra" asked him to grab wealth for her.He at once set for that.First he went to kings andthey were unable to help him.At last he went to a cruel but wealthy demon named "Illuala" who had a brother named "Vaathapi".Killing brahmins by tricks were theirhobby. When Agasthya reached his palace he warmly welcomed him.As per the plan his brother turned to a goat and served himself as a dish to "Agastya"(he had magical powers). But he was trapped inside Agasthya's stomach and burned to death by the great sage's gastric juices.Other wise he would have come out piercing Agasthya's stomach when hearing a call from his brother. The above are the reasons for my doubt. I will be thankful if anyone resolves it. Thanks Regards,Sreejith. Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Dear all, Radhe Krishna! A genuine doubt. I have also read in many places that the great Rishis too were non-vegetarians and used to eat deer etc. Probably, this was the reason that they were having Thamo-guna in preponderence and used to pronounce curses on innocent people for silly things. Sage Durvasa for instance. He was full of Thamo-guna, and used to get angry for silly things and pronounce curses. Lord Siva had a preponderence of Thamo-guna and was a kshipra-prasadee as well as kshipra-kopee. Vegetarianism, and there too, eating only selected vegetables improve the Satthwa-guna in a person. Those with Satthwa-guna preponderence in them, perform good actions and are better devotees of Lord Vishnu, who is a Sattwika by nature. While following the words of great people, we should not go by their actions, but by their advices only. For instance, those great sages whom we are discussing about, were all capable of performing great things which none of us can do. Sage Viswamithra, by his Tapo-balam, could create a heaven for Thrisanku. Vasishta, by mere thought, could get Kama-dhenu and produce food for thousands of people when Viswamitra visited him. Lord Siva could drink the Kala-koota visham that came out while churning the ocean. Sage Agasthya could contain a Ganges in his kamandalu and sage Jannhu could absorb the whole of Ganga in his stomach. Renuka, mother of Parasurama, by her Pathivrathyam, could make a pot with clay on the river-side, and bring water hoime.Sages, why, even a boy like Dhruva could perform Tapas for months together without food or water. Their curses and blessings had immediate effect. So, comparison of people of our common stature with such great people is wrong. We should go only by their teachings and not try to imbibe their actions. Regards KVG. sreejith kp wrote: " Oom Eka danthaya VidMahE Vakrathundata DhiMaHE Thano danthi Prachothayat " Hi, "Namasthe to ALL" Actually I have a doubt. I have seen that Brahmins are vegetarians. Is it compulsory for a brahmin to be strictly vegetarian? Any book says to be so? The reason for this doubt is that in great "MAHABHARATHA" i have read that during the great "yagas" by kings, all the brahmins are invited and served food (collected by hunting including pork,deer...). I have also read the story of the great sage "Agasthya". Once his wife "LOpamudra" asked him to grab wealth for her.He at once set for that.First he went to kings and they were unable to help him.At last he went to a cruel but wealthy demon named "Illuala" who had a brother named "Vaathapi".Killing brahmins by tricks were their hobby. When Agasthya reached his palace he warmly welcomed him.As per the plan his brother turned to a goat and served himself as a dish to "Agastya"(he had magical powers). But he was trapped inside Agasthya's stomach and burned to death by the great sage's gastric juices. Other wise he would have come out piercing Agasthya's stomach when hearing a call from his brother. The above are the reasons for my doubt. I will be thankful if anyone resolves it. Thanks Regards, Sreejith. Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Very well said KVG Sir. Srila Prabhupada also used to state in his lectures/conversations etc. that we should not imitate the great Personalities but try to follow what they say. Of course, in the Kali-yuga Shree Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, who is Krishna Himself appearing as a covered incarnation (Channa Avatara) followed all the standards Himself, including taking pure vegetarian food offered to Krishna and taking all the Ekadashis etc., in order to help people in general understand the importance of it. Therefore it is mentioned in the Srimad-Bhagavatam about Shree Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as: (Krishna Varnam Tvisha Akrishnam Sangopangastra Paarshadam Yajnaih Sankirtanaih Prayair Yajanty Hy Sumedhasah "In the age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the names of Krishna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krishna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons and confidential companions. " ~ http://vedabase.net/sb/11/5/32/en ) Sarvam Shree Krishnarpanamastu! ~Krishnadasa. "K.V Gopalakrishna" <gopalakrishna.kv wrote: Dear all,Radhe Krishna!A genuine doubt. I have also read in many places that the great Rishis too were non-vegetarians and used to eat deer etc. Probably, this was the reason that they were having Thamo-guna in preponderence and used to pronounce curses on innocent people for silly things. Sage Durvasa for instance. He was full of Thamo-guna, and used to get angry for silly things and pronounce curses. Lord Siva had a preponderence of Thamo-guna and was a kshipra-prasadee as well as kshipra-kopee. Vegetarianism, and there too, eating only selected vegetables improve the Satthwa-guna in a person. Those with Satthwa-guna preponderence in them, perform good actions and are better devotees of Lord Vishnu, who is a Sattwika by nature.While following the words of great people, we should not go by their actions, but by their advices only. For instance, those great sages whom we are discussing about, were all capable of performing great things which none of us can do. Sage Viswamithra, by his Tapo-balam, could create a heaven for Thrisanku. Vasishta, by mere thought, could get Kama-dhenu and produce food for thousands of people when Viswamitra visited him. Lord Siva could drink the Kala-koota visham that came out while churning the ocean. Sage Agasthya could contain a Ganges in his kamandalu and sage Jannhu could absorb the whole of Ganga in his stomach. Renuka, mother of Parasurama, by her Pathivrathyam, could make a pot with clay on the river-side, and bring water hoime.Sages, why, even a boy like Dhruva could perform Tapas for months together without food or water. Their curses and blessings had immediate effect. So, comparison of people of our common stature with such great people is wrong. We should go only by their teachings and not try to imbibe their actions.RegardsKVG.sreejith kp wrote: " Oom Eka danthaya VidMahE Vakrathundata DhiMaHE Thano danthi Prachothayat " Hi, "Namasthe to ALL" Actually I have a doubt. I have seen that Brahmins arevegetarians. Is it compulsory for a brahmin to be strictly vegetarian? Any book says to be so? The reason for this doubt is that in great "MAHABHARATHA"i have read that during the great "yagas" by kings, allthe brahmins are invited and served food (collected byhunting including pork,deer...). I have also read the story of the great sage "Agasthya".Once his wife "LOpamudra" asked him to grab wealth for her.He at once set for that.First he went to kings andthey were unable to help him.At last he went to a cruel but wealthy demon named "Illuala" who had a brother named "Vaathapi".Killing brahmins by tricks were theirhobby. When Agasthya reached his palace he warmly welcomed him.As per the plan his brother turned to a goat and served himself as a dish to "Agastya"(he had magical powers). But he was trapped inside Agasthya's stomach and burned to death by the great sage's gastric juices.Other wise he would have come out piercing Agasthya's stomach when hearing a call from his brother. The above are the reasons for my doubt. I will be thankful if anyone resolves it. Thanks Regards,Sreejith. Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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