Fw: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Guruvayoor Devaprasnam Completed on 7 Nov.. ( The Final Details) .

November 11, 2007

Shambho Mahadeva.... Om namo narayanaya...

Dear Bhaktas,

Great sages have told us to stay away from bad company... They say it is better to keep to yourself if there is no good company available.

In today's world, we must also chose carefully which e-mails/books/news papers etc.. to be read.

I have decided not to open sri Ganapathy Raman's e-mails in future.

Jayashankar

- chirattapuram

guruvayur

Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:19 AM

Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Guruvayoor Devaprasnam Completed on 7 Nov.. ( The Final Details) .

Hari OmWhen writing in forums like this, one is supposed to show some respect for the other devotees. We all differ in our views about almost every subject but that view should not be trust upon others. I wonder why Sri Ganapathy Raman is so hyper about the Devaprasnam. Mr Raman's own comment lacks knowledge and maturity. Devaprasnam is conducted when abnormalities are observed in and around the temple premises. It is not performed by 'SOME astrologers " as Mr Raman claims. These individuals are highly trained and knowledgeable in that field. They are the proper persons to conduct Devaprasnam. You claim that there is no need to invoke the Lord to find out what are His wishes. Do you, Mr Raman , possess divine or pychic powers to know what the Lord wishes. If so , The Devaswam should use your services instead of invoking the Lord. Now about Churidar.Your comment about Mr Krishnadaya owning a textile shop is a very silly and childish arguement. If you say women shoud be allowed to wear churidar, what about men? should they not wear suit, tie and shoes to follow the modern trend and to show that we are not living in the Vedic age ? True, common sense is not that very common.It appears Mr Raman does not know what he is talking about.What a pity.Jai Shree Krishna !guruvayur , GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote:>> I thought Krishnadaya is a person with good knowledge.However after accepting what some astrologers said and accepting the same as said in Vedas he has gone away from tangent and exhibited his ignorance abt the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Really pathetic to succumb to such obnoxious findings of the astrologers in the form of Devaprasnam and one who does not accept the same to be treated as atheist or marxist.I feel sorry for a knowledgeable person like > Krishnadaya.How on earth he finds that the same are the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Many factors like cleanliness,renovation,reshaping of the existing things can be known to all and the Board has to do it with its enormous funds and there is no necessity to invoke Lord for making the temple a really spiritual abode.For that purpose there is no necessity for Devaprasnam for a number of days and debates spending enormous amount and with that all the things could hv been rectified.It is really pitiable that Krishnadaya has become a victim for such things and dubbing people who say anything against ascommunists.I think he is living in the vedic age.Sorry for for my harsh comments but be practical Krishnadaya.In what way it affects you whether a lady wears churidar instead of saree etc .I hpe you are not running any textile shop near the temple.Bhagawan has never said anything.Why you find fault with that?For your info I don't hv any churidar or other shop.Really sorry abt your anxiety which is nothing but a matter for pity.This is not to> remove your faith which is not my intention but just to keep you informed about the changing times and the necessity for that as change is the order of the day and devotees > from many States can't be expected to wear sarees etc.and Guruvayurappan is not confined Deity only to those of Kerala.All temples everywhere change the customs according to times and Adi Sankara too never said that only those things shuld be followed.It is all the things stemmed out of the peoles's mind who hv got their own interest uppermost.Regarding other things you hv noted I don't hv the patience to read and so not making any comments.But don't drag the intrepretations of astrologers whatever be their qualifications as the wish of Guruvayurappan as they themselves won't be sure except by intrepreting some planetary positions which hv got nothing to to do with the Cosmic Power that is > Sri Guruvayurappan.Anyway I appreciate your interest on the subject which is not worthwhile to spend time.> > > krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:> Krishna, Guruvayoorappa ! , Dear Bhakthas , > The Eight day long Guruvayoor "Ashtmangala Devaprasnam" was successfully completed yesterday ( 07 Nov. ) . > What was performed yesterday was verifying Guruvayoorappan's will on the proposed remedial measures . As solution to each of the discovered shortcomings , an offering was proposed with a prayer to the concerned Devatha , and verified His/Her acceptance or rejection, through the analysis of "Rasi" .> 1. At first , praying Guruvayoorappan , it was proposed to submit at His Sopanam, "Bhadradeepam" in Silver pot with "Suvarnakshatha" inside it , Palpayasam worth Rs.1001, "Thrikkaivenna" , "Thrumudimala" , Milk, and Sugar . These will be submitted by the Temple's Ooralan , Othikkanmar , Keezh-Shaanthis, and Other traditional Staff . And after submitting it they all will admit their mistakes to Bhagavan , apologize to Him , and prostrate at His feet , seeking Bhagavan's forgiveness . In the "Rasi" , "Vyazham" ( Guru) was found in the 9th house . This auspicious revelation confirmed that , Guruvayoorappan is satisfied with the proposed Offerings and Remedial Measures . > 2. In the Mammiyoor Temple , "Rudradhara" & "Pinvilakku" to Siva, "Palpayasam" to Vishnu , and relevant offerings to the other Devathas in Mammiyoor and to the Deities in associated Temples , other nearby Temples, Kannur Idakkad Temple, and Irinjalakkuda Koodal Manikyam Temple , were proposed . It was found to be acceptable to Them . > Remedial Measures > The following Remedial measures were proposed and found to be acceptable to Bhagavan and the Upadevathas : > 1. The Defective Golden Flag Pole shall be replaces with a New one , within next (13) months . > 2. In the Devawom Guest house compound , a "Valkannadi " ( Mirror Image) to be consecrated on the "Karimkali Thara"( Platform for Karimkali Deity) . And yearly Pooja to be offered there after laying Padmam ( lotus) . > 3. On the Ekadasi day , the procession to the East should halt at it's previous end point " Theeyyar Ambalam" , offer salutations there before proceeding to the Parthasarathy Temple for "Irakkiyezhunnallathu" .> 4. To eliminate the "Sarpa-Dosham" ( ill-effects caused by Serpents) , a golden Sepent-image , and "Puttum" shall be submitted at "Pambumekkavu Mana " ( Temple-Abode of Serpents) . > 5. Symbolic Offering of Elephant to be performed . > 6. To eliminate the ill- effects for the misdeeds of all those associated with the Temple , Devaswom board should conduct every year, "Maha-Sudarshana Homam" ( 96,000 chants) , "Thila-havanam" (1,00,000 chants) , "Sukrutha-Homam" and 12 days long "Ganapthy-Homams" . Also , "Kalkachikichuttu" ( with 108 "Ashtothara shatanamam") and "Vilichucholli-prayachittham" will be carried out . As a remedy for various types of Curses , "Murahomam" will be performed every year . Also "Maha-Mrithunjaya Homam" and "Bhagavathy Seva" shall be performed every year . > 7. Every year , a "Sukrutha-Homam" shall be performed with 24, 000 chants of Gayathri-Manthra , to increase the "Sukrutha" of Temple . > 8. Thanthri , himself shall decide and perform his "Prayachittham" ( atonement) to Bhagavan .> 9. Any money offered on the "Thrippadi" ( step to Sreekovil) , belongs to Bhagavan . > 10. As an atonement of Go-sapa ( Curse of Cows) it was first proposed to offer a Cow to Bhagavathy . But , it was not found sufficient . So , a golden image of Cow will be offered to Bhagavathy . > Note : > > It was re-confirmed that , Bhagavan does not accept any amendment to the existing "Kshetra-Acharas" . > Before , the conclusion of Devaprasnam two Members of the Devaswom Managing Committee raised objections . Mr. M.M.Vasudevan alleged that , some of the findings and remedial measures revealed in the Devaprasnam will pull us to 200 years back just for the sake of Acharas . Prof. T.R. Harry stated that , the Girl-students in his college had asked him whether Churidar could be permitted in side the Temple . > The Lead Jyothishi , Padmanabha Sharma calmly pointed out that , the Dress Codes of Educational institutions are not suitable for Temple . While coming to the Temple for Darshan , all Bhakthas should follow the Dress Code that is prescribed for the Temple . He reiterated that , Guruvayoorappan rejects all sorts of changes to the time-proven "Kshetra-Acharas" . Also , he invited all skeptics to come to the dais to have a debate on the basis of Vedic Injunctions . > The above said , two Members ( who are Marxist Nominees in the Director Board) started yelling "Times have progressed . Churidar must be allowed inside the Temple " . > This infuriated the Bhakthas present there . They declared in one voice " What matters is Guruvayoorappan's will alone . And not the wishes of Others . We do not need Bhagavan-Haters in Guruvayoor Temple , anymore " . > As the situation became vociferous , and the mentioned Atheists were looking for an escape route , Padmanabha Sharma , the Lead Jyothishi pacified the Bhakthas , assuring them that Guruvayoorappan's will shall prevail . > Findings ( 31 Oct. -- 06 Nov. ) . > Summary > > Bhagavan is upset over the violation of "Kshethra Acharas" , Desecration of Temple , Immoral activities inside the Temple , etc by God-haters . Possible, Bomb/Fire/Riot might cause mass killing in or outside the Temple . > Thanthri is Bhagavan's Representative . What he says is to be accepted by everyone . > Golden Flag Pole is defective . Temple- Elephants may pull it down . > No entry to Non-Hindus . Only those having full faith in Deity worship and Kshethra-Acharas , shall enter the Temple. > No change in the Temple's Dress Code . Churidar is unacceptable . It has already caused violence by Elephants . It's continuation will cause death and destruction to all responsible for it . > Upadeva Ganesha's Moorthy and Temple are defective . Renovation , required for His Temple . > Bhgagavan's Cows were stolen and killed . Serious Go-Shapa will cause calamities . > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation .> Deratiled Findings > 1. Bhagavan stressed the need to rectify certain structural defects found in the golden Flag Pole of the Temple . It's foundation is damaged due to the attack of insects . Flag Pole is the abode of Bhagavan's vehicle Garuda . It has been dislocated and tilted . If one measures from it's footing to "veeraknadam" (upper portion) , the dislocation can be found out . if the defective Flag Pole is not replaced with a new one , the present Flag Pole will be pulled down by Temple Elephants .> 2. Bhagavan wants the Temple to set up Facilities for the study of Sanskrit and Vedas . The Vedas are very important to Guruvayoor Temple . Necessary Facilities should be provided for higher education of Sanskrit . > 3. Ordinary Bhaktas should not face any hurdle in worshipping Bhagavan due to restrictions made in the name of VIP visits . At present , such difficulties exist and certain Temple staff are behaving rudely with the Bhkthas . This is absolutely unacceptable . Bhagavan is always pleased by the Bhakthy of Common man . > 4. Bhagavan does not want , more than one `Udayasthamana Pooja' in a day . > 5. The Building in side the Temple premises can be taller than the Temple . But it's floor level should be lower than that of Temple . On such floor , any number of storeys can be constructed . This has no relation with the height of Flag Pole . Considering the roads around the Temple as boundary limits, this condition should be adhered to . > 6. Materials once used for "Thulabharam" can be used again . However, the decayed materials should not be used . > 7. The water from the "Manikkinar" ( Temple's well ) , can be used for Thulabharam . > 8. The future of Bhagavan's presence in Guruvayoor Temple is bright . The present unpleasant issues can be resolved by "Prayrachitham" (Atonement rituals) . These remedial measures must be completed within one year . > ( Note - : Some Devotees brought to the Jyothishis' attention , criticisms in the media against the Jyothishis . But the Jyothishis preferred not to discuss it with Bhagavan . They stated " This Devaprasnam is being conducted strictly according to the Scriptural Injunctions and associated Vedic Shaastras . We are ready to answer any doubts on this . In stead of that , if some one wants to arrest us , we are helpless . ) > > The "Suvarna-Dwajam" ( Golden Flag Pole ) is not vertical and it is in damaged condition . It's present position too is not correct . This may cause Serious Dangers . > Thanthri ( Temple-Acharya ) is not issuing necessary instructions on time. He feels that, what he says will upset the concerned Authorities ; especially since , what he told in the past were ignored totally . Bhagavan is furious over this situation . > Some Devotees pointed out that , Udayastamana Pooja is performed for a single person only ; And therefore is it necessary to close and open the Sreekovil-Door for it ? . > Bhagavan replied that , Poojas are not for one Person only . More Udayasthamana Poojas and Thanthric rites are for increasing the `Deva çhaithanyam' (aura) . > The "Pillaru-Thalappoly " ( Ritualistic Offerings on a plate , by children) , being conducted by the local group , is very satisfying to Bhagavathy ( Upadevi , Durga) . > The Turmeric powder being offered to Bhagavathy , has less purity . > Bhagavathy does not need "Kunkuma-archana" . > In the Devawom guest house , a "Karimkaalithara" ( platform for `Karimkaali –Deity ' ) is to be provided . > A particular person from the " Othikkan " (Traditional Poojari) family, is continuously showing disrespect to the position of Thanthri . Bhagavan is upset over this . If this is not stopped immediately , there will be dire consequences . > In the previous Devawom Cow-Shelter "Kaaveedu" , some Cows were killed . In order to avoid it's ill-effects in the new Cow-Shelter , "Kalasa Pooja" and other atonements to be performed for Bhagavathy . > Some "KeezhShaantis" ( Assistant Poojaris) are not maintaining the necessary personal purity, required for Poojas . This is repeated many times . This will cause calamities in the "Thidappally" ( Platform in front of Sanctum Sanctorum) itself . > Some Temple Staff are not performing their duties properly and are shifting it's blame to others . They are going for other assignments that fetches better income . Also , there is serious infighting among the Staff . > Quoting verses from the "Kapilopadesa in Bhagavatham" , Justice Radhakrishna Menon raised doubts about the previous days revelations on rejection of Churidar . The Jyothishis re-confirmed with evidence that, Bhagavan does not like any amendment to the time-proven "Kshetra-Aachaaras" , in such unauthorized ways . > Change in Dress Code> ( History : On 27th July, Guruvayur Devaswom had relaxed the traditional Temple Dress code to allow Women Devotees to wear Churidar inside the Temple . Earlier, women could wear only dresses such as sari, set-mundu, half-sari and skirt and blouse to the Temple. Even if women wore kurtas to the shrine, they had to wear a `mundu' over the pyjamas. However , soon after the Marxist led agitations seeking amendment of "Kshetra Aachaaras' ( Temple customs) , the Marxist Devaswom Board President announced his decision to allow Churidar inside the Temple. Later this matter was taken up in the Board meeting wherein the Thantri sated his objection . But, the Board flatly refused to revoke it's public announcement and ordered the Thantri to shut up.) > In the wake of Guruvayoorappan's objections to the changes in `Kshetra-Acharas ` , the recent change in Dress code was checked on the fifth day of `Devaprasnam' . During the `Acharyavaranakriya' , when a new cloth was brought , the Board Official instructed to cut it and fetch a small piece out of it . When the cloth was cut , it became ` Gana-vastra' which according to Jyothisha is used for post-death rituals . Based on this `nimitham' ( divine syndrome) , Jyothishis analysed further to find out Bhagavan's will . And the following was revealed :> > Devaswam officials had issued a strict instruction to the Thanthri and all concerned to allow Churidar inside the Temple . > Thanthri was not allowed to raise his objection . Because of this , he could not seek Bhagavan's permission or conduct the Social Prayer necessary for seeking Bhagavan's consent for the change of ` Aachaara `. Therefore , instead of a natural change , Dewaswam's will was imposed on Thantri and Bhagavan . Next day, onwards Women started entering the Temple wearing Churidar which was unacceptable to Bhagavan . This resulted in the violent behavior of Temple-Elephants , Falling down of ` Thidambu'( Festival Deity) , etc . If this non-obedience is continued, it will be harmful to the Person wearing the Churidar and their families . It could result in premature deaths . Even, it could even harm the human kind as a whole . > Guruvayoorappan wants His Bhaktas to wear simple traditional dress inside the Temple . Dresses like Churidar is `paradesi ` ( foreign) , which is unacceptable to Bhagavan. > > Devaswom Shelters for Old and Orphan Bhakthas > Bhagavan reiterated His desire to accommodate and protect His Old and Orphan Bhakthas in a Shelter which should be constructed by Devaswom . He pointed out that , according to His instructions earlier , daily `Prasada Ooottu `( Feeding of the Bhakthas) was started for 500 Bhakthas . Now it is provided daily for 5000 Bhakthas . Likewise , the Shelter will also be a success . While this was discussed , Bhagavatha Hamsam Malliyoor Shankaran Namboothiri ( Guruvayoorappan's legendary Bhakta) , entered the dais of Devaprasnam . Jyothishis found this as the divine omen of Bhagavan''s presence there and Bhaktavalsala's compassion for His Devotees .> > In near future, the cloth of a person arriving for Darshan will be caught fire in the Temple . Also, in the Temple premises , one's wife will be killed by an Elephant or Cow . > Devaswom Board must consider `Krishnanaattam' (which is very dear to Bhagavan) , as Sacred . In last two years , during Vijayadasami , the 9 days long `Krishnanaattam' is not conducted by Devaswam Board . Devotees are offering it . Devaswam must conduct this with faith . > The "Koothambalam" (Auditorium for Temple Arts) is as important as the Temple . It must be cleaned daily and an Oil lamp to be lit there . > The continuing atonement for removing the previous Temple-Acharyas Puliyannoor Family long back , to be performed properly . It is not carried out decently now . > The Garland for Sreekovil , to be prepared in the Temple itself . > Those working inside the Temple , must use decent Language . > Efforts must be made to keep the Temple clean . > The Daily Ritual " Olavaayana " ( A Warrier temple-staff writes the Day's Income and Expenses on a Palm Leaf and Reads it out to Bhagavan before the closure of Temple , every night ) , has been stopped . Instead it is issued in writing to Him , as a token gesture . Bhagavan is furious at this Cheating . Right from tonight (03 Nov) , "Olavaayana" must be resumed . > The existing "Achaaraas'( Rituals and Practices of the Temple) can not be debated and amended by any ` Acharya-Sabha' ( Assembly of Vedic Acharyas and Experts) . They are to be adhered to as it is . > The `Guru-parambara' relationship in the Temple, has been lost . > The `Thidambu' ( Festival Moorthy) has fallen down . For that, `prayachitha' atonement was not done properly . > Bhagavan is unhappy over the financial burden being imposed on His Bhakthas , by Devaswom Board's frequent increases in the material cost of Offerings . > `Prasadam' is being sold in the Shops outside the Temple. > There are defects in the Moorthy of Ganapathy , the Upadeva . Waste materials are stockpiled inside His temple . His displeasure will cause irritation to the Temple Elephants . Renovation of His temple needs to be done . > The Construction works inside the Temple premises , were carried out without Bhagavan's consent . There are defects in those works . In matters of `Vastu' , the opinions of more than one Expert need to be sought . > The relocated positions of Upadevas are not compatible with that of Flag staff . > There are reductions in the Poojas . > The Temple Pond has become impure . Many deaths have occurred therein already . It is not maintained as Sacred . > Another Temple Pond having the Divine presence, was filled up totally . > The sacred Ashoka tree near the Bhagavathy Temple was cut down . It's atonement needs to be done . > The Coconuts once offered to Bhagavathy are offered to Her again and again to save cost and time . This is unacceptable to Her . > Sastha , the Upadeva is unhappy due to lapses in His rituals . > Although , the Temple Administrators and their Masters will try to block the proposed remedial measures , Bhagavan's grace will help to complete it . > Guruvayoorappan is unhappy over the lapses in the " Kshethra-Acharas" ( Temple-Customs) . As a result, Bomb/Fire/Riots might cause mass deaths inside or just outside the Temple . > `Deva-Chaithanyam' ( aura) is intact on the Deity which is unique . > There will be sharp increase in the inflow of Devotees and Temple revenue . > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation . > Bhagavan's money is being misused by the concerned Officials . > Certain Staff are involving in `Adharmic' ( unrighteous) activities inside Temple premises . > Entry on Non-Hindus inside Temple , is unacceptable to Bhagavan . Devotees having firm faith in Deity worship and temple customs are the ones to enter the Temple . > The Thanthri ( Acharya of the temple) , is not allowed by the Devaswom Officials to perform his duties properly . Because of this , Bhagavan is unhappy and the Thantri is very sad . Thanthri's Instructions are being ignored by the Administrators . Therefore, he is not giving anymore instructions . > Temple Officials are misusing the Temple wealth . Both the previous and present Officials are guilty of sinful activities . Some Staff are entering the Temple after consuming Liquor . > There is impurity in the `Nivedaya- items' being offered to Bhagavan . > Bhagvan's favorite , Milk and Plantain Nivedyam have been stopped . > In the Temple's Gokulam , Bhagavan;'s Cows are not looked after properly . Theft and even killing of Cows have occurred . `Go-Sapa' (Curse of Cows) exists . > Within a few months , one Temple Elephant will die . > Please forward this message to as many Bhakthas as possible . Let everyone pray Sree Guruvayoorappan .> Om Namo Narayanaya !!! Please protect us , O Guruvayoor Bhagavan !!!!> > Krishnadaya . > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

November 12, 2007

Om namo narayananya...

I agree with jayashankar. I believe who those don't give value and respect to vedas should not be claim as hindus and know anything about guruvayoorappan. You are questioning your own beliefs. I have notices many times in this and other forums about questioning beliefs. If you can believe what your mom says who is your father is, then there is always a place for belief in your life.

On Nov 11, 2007 2:14 AM, JAYASHANKAR <shankarmk wrote:

Shambho Mahadeva.... Om namo narayanaya...

Dear Bhaktas,

Great sages have told us to stay away from bad company... They say it is better to keep to yourself if there is no good company available.

In today's world, we must also chose carefully which e-mails/books/news papers etc.. to be read.

I have decided not to open sri Ganapathy Raman's e-mails in future.

Jayashankar

- chirattapuram

guruvayur

Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:19 AM

Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Guruvayoor Devaprasnam Completed on 7 Nov.. ( The Final Details) .

Hari OmWhen writing in forums like this, one is supposed to show some respect for the other devotees. We all differ in our views about almost every subject but that view should not be trust upon others. I wonder why Sri Ganapathy Raman is so hyper about the Devaprasnam. Mr Raman's own comment lacks knowledge and maturity. Devaprasnam is conducted when abnormalities are observed in and around the temple premises. It is not performed by 'SOME astrologers " as Mr Raman claims. These individuals are highly trained and knowledgeable in that field. They are the proper persons to conduct Devaprasnam. You claim that there is no need to invoke the

Lord to find out what are His wishes. Do you, Mr Raman , possess divine or pychic powers to know what the Lord wishes. If so , The Devaswam should use your services instead of invoking the Lord. Now about Churidar.Your

comment about Mr Krishnadaya owning a textile shop is a very silly and childish arguement. If you say women shoud be allowed to wear churidar, what about men? should they not wear suit, tie and shoes to follow the modern trend and to show that we are not living in the Vedic age ? True, common sense is not that very common.It appears Mr Raman does not know what he is talking about.What a pity.Jai Shree Krishna !

guruvayur , GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote:>> I thought Krishnadaya is a person with good knowledge.However after accepting what some astrologers said and accepting the same as said in Vedas he has gone away from tangent and exhibited his ignorance abt the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Really pathetic to succumb to such obnoxious findings of the astrologers in the form of Devaprasnam and one who does not accept the same to be treated as atheist or marxist.I feel sorry for a knowledgeable person like > Krishnadaya.How on earth he finds that the same are the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Many

factors like cleanliness,renovation,reshaping of the existing things can be known to all and the Board has to do it with its enormous funds and there is no necessity to invoke Lord for making the temple a really spiritual abode.For that purpose there is no necessity for Devaprasnam for a number of days and debates spending enormous amount and with that all the things could hv been rectified.It is really pitiable that Krishnadaya has become a victim for such things and dubbing people who say anything against ascommunists.I think he is living in the vedic age.Sorry for for my harsh comments but be practical Krishnadaya.In what way it affects you whether a lady wears churidar instead of saree etc .I hpe you are not running any textile shop near the temple.Bhagawan has never said anything.Why you find fault with that?For your info I don't hv any churidar or other shop.Really sorry abt your anxiety which is nothing but a matter for pity.This is not to> remove your faith which is not my intention but just to keep you informed about the changing times and the necessity for that as change is the order of the day and devotees > from many States can't be expected to wear sarees etc.and Guruvayurappan is not confined Deity only to those of Kerala.All temples everywhere change the customs according to times and Adi Sankara too never said that only those things shuld be followed.It is all the things stemmed out of the peoles's mind who hv got their own interest uppermost.Regarding other things you hv noted I don't hv the patience to read and so not making any comments.But

don't drag the intrepretations of astrologers whatever be their qualifications as the wish of Guruvayurappan as they themselves won't be sure except by intrepreting some planetary positions which hv got nothing to to do with the Cosmic Power that is > Sri Guruvayurappan.Anyway I appreciate your interest on the subject which is not worthwhile to spend time.> > > krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:

> Krishna, Guruvayoorappa ! , Dear Bhakthas , > The Eight day long Guruvayoor " Ashtmangala Devaprasnam " was successfully completed yesterday ( 07 Nov. ) . > What was performed yesterday was verifying Guruvayoorappan's will on the proposed remedial measures . As solution to each of the discovered shortcomings , an offering was proposed with a prayer to the concerned Devatha , and verified His/Her acceptance or rejection, through the analysis of " Rasi " .

> 1. At first , praying Guruvayoorappan , it was proposed to submit at His Sopanam, " Bhadradeepam " in Silver pot with " Suvarnakshatha " inside it , Palpayasam worth Rs.1001, " Thrikkaivenna " , " Thrumudimala " , Milk, and Sugar . These will be submitted by the Temple's Ooralan , Othikkanmar , Keezh-Shaanthis, and Other traditional Staff . And after submitting it they all will admit their mistakes to Bhagavan , apologize to Him , and

prostrate at His feet , seeking Bhagavan's forgiveness . In the " Rasi " , " Vyazham " ( Guru) was found in the 9th house . This auspicious revelation confirmed that , Guruvayoorappan is satisfied with the proposed Offerings and Remedial Measures . > 2. In the Mammiyoor Temple , " Rudradhara " & " Pinvilakku " to Siva, " Palpayasam " to Vishnu , and relevant offerings to the other Devathas in Mammiyoor and to the Deities in associated Temples , other nearby Temples, Kannur Idakkad Temple, and Irinjalakkuda Koodal Manikyam Temple , were proposed . It was found to be acceptable to Them . > Remedial Measures > The following Remedial measures were proposed and found to be acceptable to Bhagavan and the Upadevathas : > 1. The Defective Golden Flag Pole shall be replaces with a New one , within next (13) months . > 2. In the Devawom Guest house compound , a " Valkannadi " ( Mirror Image) to be consecrated on the " Karimkali Thara " ( Platform for Karimkali Deity) . And yearly Pooja to be offered there after laying Padmam ( lotus) . > 3. On the Ekadasi day , the procession to the East should halt at it's previous end point " Theeyyar Ambalam " , offer salutations there before proceeding to the Parthasarathy Temple for " Irakkiyezhunnallathu " .> 4. To eliminate the " Sarpa-Dosham " ( ill-effects caused by Serpents) , a golden Sepent-image , and " Puttum " shall be submitted at " Pambumekkavu Mana " ( Temple-Abode of Serpents) . > 5. Symbolic Offering of Elephant to be performed . > 6. To eliminate the ill- effects for the misdeeds of all those associated with the Temple , Devaswom board should conduct every year, " Maha-Sudarshana Homam " ( 96,000 chants) , " Thila-

havanam " (1,00,000 chants) , " Sukrutha-Homam " and 12 days long " Ganapthy-Homams " . Also , " Kalkachikichuttu " ( with 108 " Ashtothara shatanamam " ) and " Vilichucholli-prayachittham " will be carried out . As a remedy for various types of Curses , " Murahomam " will be performed every year . Also " Maha-Mrithunjaya Homam " and " Bhagavathy Seva " shall be performed every year . > 7. Every year , a " Sukrutha-Homam " shall be performed with 24, 000 chants of Gayathri-Manthra , to increase the " Sukrutha " of Temple . > 8. Thanthri , himself shall decide and perform his " Prayachittham " ( atonement) to Bhagavan .> 9. Any money offered on the " Thrippadi " ( step to Sreekovil) , belongs to Bhagavan . > 10. As an atonement of Go-sapa ( Curse of Cows) it was first proposed to offer a Cow to Bhagavathy . But , it was not found sufficient . So , a golden image of Cow will be offered to Bhagavathy . > Note : > > It was re-confirmed that , Bhagavan does not accept any amendment to the existing " Kshetra-Acharas " . > Before , the conclusion of Devaprasnam two Members of the Devaswom Managing Committee raised objections . Mr. M.M.Vasudevan alleged that , some of the findings and remedial measures revealed in the Devaprasnam will pull us to 200 years back just for the sake of Acharas . Prof. T.R. Harry stated that , the Girl-students in his college had asked him whether Churidar could be permitted in side the Temple . > The Lead Jyothishi , Padmanabha Sharma calmly pointed out that , the Dress Codes of Educational institutions are not suitable for Temple . While coming to the Temple for Darshan , all Bhakthas should

follow the Dress Code that is prescribed for the Temple . He reiterated that , Guruvayoorappan rejects all sorts of changes to the time-proven " Kshetra-Acharas " . Also , he invited all skeptics to come to the dais to have a debate on the basis of Vedic Injunctions . > The above said , two Members ( who are Marxist Nominees in the Director Board) started yelling " Times have progressed . Churidar must be allowed inside the Temple " . > This infuriated the Bhakthas present there . They declared in one voice " What matters is Guruvayoorappan's will alone . And not the wishes of Others . We do not need Bhagavan-Haters in Guruvayoor Temple , anymore " . > As the situation became vociferous , and the mentioned Atheists were looking for an escape route , Padmanabha Sharma , the Lead Jyothishi pacified the Bhakthas , assuring them that Guruvayoorappan's will shall prevail . > Findings ( 31 Oct. -- 06 Nov. ) . > Summary > > Bhagavan is upset over the violation of " Kshethra Acharas " , Desecration of Temple , Immoral activities inside the Temple , etc by God-haters . Possible, Bomb/Fire/Riot might cause mass killing in or outside the Temple . > Thanthri is Bhagavan's Representative . What he says is to be accepted by everyone . > Golden Flag Pole is defective . Temple- Elephants may pull it down . > No entry to Non-Hindus . Only those having full faith in Deity worship and Kshethra-Acharas , shall enter the Temple. > No change in the Temple's Dress Code . Churidar is unacceptable . It has already caused violence by Elephants . It's continuation will cause death and destruction to all responsible for it . > Upadeva Ganesha's Moorthy and Temple are defective . Renovation , required for His Temple . > Bhgagavan's Cows were stolen and killed . Serious Go-Shapa will cause calamities .

> Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation .> Deratiled Findings > 1. Bhagavan stressed the need to rectify certain structural defects found in the golden Flag Pole of the Temple . It's foundation is damaged due to the attack of insects . Flag Pole is the abode of Bhagavan's vehicle Garuda . It has been dislocated and tilted . If one measures from it's footing to " veeraknadam " (upper portion) , the dislocation can be found out . if the defective Flag Pole is not replaced with a new one , the present Flag Pole will be pulled down by Temple Elephants .> 2. Bhagavan wants the Temple to set up Facilities for the study of Sanskrit and Vedas . The Vedas are very important to Guruvayoor Temple . Necessary Facilities should be provided for higher education of Sanskrit . > 3. Ordinary Bhaktas should not face any hurdle in worshipping Bhagavan due to restrictions made in the name of VIP visits . At present , such difficulties exist and certain Temple staff are behaving rudely with the Bhkthas . This is absolutely unacceptable . Bhagavan is always pleased by the Bhakthy of Common man . > 4. Bhagavan does not want , more than one `Udayasthamana Pooja' in a day . > 5. The Building in side the Temple premises can be taller than the Temple . But it's floor level should be lower than that of Temple . On such floor , any number of storeys can be constructed . This has no relation with the height of Flag Pole . Considering the roads around the Temple as boundary limits, this condition should be

adhered to . > 6. Materials once used for " Thulabharam " can be used again . However, the decayed materials should not be used . > 7. The water from the " Manikkinar " ( Temple's well ) , can be used for Thulabharam . > 8. The future of Bhagavan's presence in Guruvayoor Temple is bright . The present unpleasant issues can be resolved by " Prayrachitham " (Atonement rituals) . These remedial measures must be completed within one year . > ( Note - : Some Devotees brought to the Jyothishis' attention , criticisms in the media against the Jyothishis . But the Jyothishis preferred not to discuss it with Bhagavan . They stated " This Devaprasnam is being conducted strictly according to the Scriptural Injunctions and associated Vedic Shaastras . We are ready to answer any doubts on this . In stead of that , if some one wants to arrest us , we are helpless . ) > > The " Suvarna-Dwajam " ( Golden Flag Pole ) is not vertical and it is in damaged condition . It's present position too is not correct . This may cause Serious Dangers . > Thanthri ( Temple-Acharya ) is not issuing necessary instructions on time. He feels that, what he says will upset the concerned Authorities ; especially since , what he told in the past were ignored totally . Bhagavan is furious over this situation . > Some Devotees pointed out that , Udayastamana Pooja is performed for a single person only ; And therefore is it necessary to close and open the Sreekovil-Door for it ? . > Bhagavan replied that , Poojas are not for one Person only . More Udayasthamana Poojas and Thanthric rites are for increasing the `Deva çhaithanyam' (aura) . > The " Pillaru-Thalappoly " ( Ritualistic Offerings on a plate , by children) , being conducted by the local group , is very satisfying to Bhagavathy ( Upadevi , Durga) . > The Turmeric powder being offered to Bhagavathy , has less purity . > Bhagavathy does not need " Kunkuma-archana " . > In the Devawom guest house , a " Karimkaalithara " ( platform for `Karimkaali –Deity ' ) is to be provided . > A particular person from the " Othikkan " (Traditional Poojari) family, is continuously showing disrespect to the position of Thanthri . Bhagavan is upset over this . If this is not stopped immediately , there will be dire consequences . > In the previous Devawom Cow-Shelter " Kaaveedu " , some Cows were killed . In order to avoid it's ill-effects in the new Cow-Shelter , " Kalasa Pooja " and other atonements to be performed for Bhagavathy . > Some " KeezhShaantis " ( Assistant Poojaris) are not maintaining the necessary personal purity, required for Poojas . This is repeated many times . This will cause calamities in the " Thidappally " ( Platform in front of Sanctum Sanctorum) itself . > Some Temple Staff are not performing their duties properly and are shifting it's blame to others . They are going for other assignments that fetches better income . Also , there is serious infighting among the Staff . > Quoting verses from the " Kapilopadesa in Bhagavatham " , Justice Radhakrishna Menon raised doubts about the previous days revelations on rejection of Churidar . The Jyothishis re-confirmed with evidence that, Bhagavan does not like any amendment to the time-proven " Kshetra-Aachaaras " , in such unauthorized ways . > Change in Dress Code> ( History : On 27th July, Guruvayur Devaswom had relaxed the traditional Temple Dress code to allow Women Devotees to wear Churidar inside the Temple . Earlier, women could wear only dresses such as sari, set-mundu, half-sari and skirt and blouse to the Temple. Even if women wore kurtas to the shrine, they had to wear a `mundu' over the pyjamas. However , soon after the Marxist led agitations seeking amendment of " Kshetra Aachaaras' ( Temple customs) , the Marxist Devaswom Board President announced his decision to allow Churidar inside the Temple. Later this matter was taken up in the Board meeting wherein the Thantri sated his objection . But, the Board flatly refused to revoke it's public announcement and ordered the Thantri to shut up.) > In the wake of Guruvayoorappan's objections to the changes in `Kshetra-Acharas ` , the recent change in Dress code was checked on the fifth day of `Devaprasnam' . During the `Acharyavaranakriya' , when a new cloth was brought , the Board Official instructed to cut it and fetch a small piece out of it . When the cloth was cut , it became ` Gana-vastra' which according to Jyothisha is used for post-death rituals . Based on this `nimitham' ( divine syndrome) ,

Jyothishis analysed further to find out Bhagavan's will . And the following was revealed :> > Devaswam officials had issued a strict instruction to the Thanthri and all concerned to allow Churidar inside the Temple . > Thanthri was not allowed to raise his objection . Because of this , he could not seek Bhagavan's permission or conduct the Social Prayer necessary for seeking Bhagavan's consent for the change of ` Aachaara `. Therefore , instead of a natural change , Dewaswam's will was imposed on Thantri and Bhagavan . Next day, onwards Women started entering the Temple wearing Churidar which was unacceptable to

Bhagavan . This resulted in the violent behavior of Temple-Elephants , Falling down of ` Thidambu'( Festival Deity) , etc . If this non-obedience is continued, it will be harmful to the Person wearing the Churidar and their families . It could result in premature deaths . Even, it could even harm the human kind as a whole . > Guruvayoorappan wants His Bhaktas to wear simple traditional dress inside the Temple . Dresses like Churidar is `paradesi ` (

foreign) , which is unacceptable to Bhagavan. > > Devaswom Shelters for Old and Orphan Bhakthas > Bhagavan reiterated His desire to accommodate and protect His Old and Orphan Bhakthas in a Shelter which should be constructed by Devaswom . He pointed out that , according to His instructions earlier , daily `Prasada Ooottu `( Feeding of the Bhakthas) was started for 500 Bhakthas . Now it is provided daily for 5000 Bhakthas . Likewise , the Shelter will also be a success . While this was discussed , Bhagavatha Hamsam Malliyoor Shankaran Namboothiri ( Guruvayoorappan's legendary Bhakta) , entered the dais of Devaprasnam . Jyothishis found this as the divine omen of Bhagavan''s presence there and Bhaktavalsala's compassion for His Devotees .> > In near future, the cloth of a person arriving for Darshan will be caught fire in the Temple . Also, in the Temple premises , one's wife will be killed by an Elephant or Cow .

> Devaswom Board must consider `Krishnanaattam' (which is very dear to Bhagavan) , as Sacred . In last two years , during Vijayadasami , the 9 days long `Krishnanaattam' is not conducted by Devaswam Board . Devotees are offering it . Devaswam must conduct this with faith . > The " Koothambalam " (Auditorium for Temple Arts) is as important as the Temple . It must be cleaned daily and an Oil lamp to be lit there . > The continuing atonement for removing the previous Temple-

Acharyas Puliyannoor Family long back , to be performed properly . It is not carried out decently now . > The Garland for Sreekovil , to be prepared in the Temple itself . > Those working inside the Temple , must use decent Language . > Efforts must be made to keep the Temple clean . > The Daily Ritual " Olavaayana " ( A Warrier temple-staff writes the Day's Income and Expenses on a Palm Leaf and Reads it out to Bhagavan before the closure of Temple , every night ) , has been stopped . Instead it is issued in writing to Him , as a token gesture . Bhagavan is furious at this Cheating . Right from tonight (03 Nov) , " Olavaayana " must be resumed . > The existing " Achaaraas'( Rituals and Practices of the Temple) can not be debated and amended by any ` Acharya-Sabha' ( Assembly of Vedic Acharyas and Experts) . They are to be adhered to as it is . > The `Guru-parambara' relationship in the Temple, has been

lost . > The `Thidambu' ( Festival Moorthy) has fallen down . For that, `prayachitha' atonement was not done properly . > Bhagavan is unhappy over the financial burden being imposed on His Bhakthas , by Devaswom Board's frequent increases in the material cost of Offerings . > `Prasadam' is being sold in the Shops outside the Temple. > There are defects in the Moorthy of Ganapathy , the Upadeva . Waste materials are stockpiled inside His temple . His displeasure will cause irritation to the Temple Elephants . Renovation of His temple needs to be done . > The Construction works inside the Temple premises , were carried out without Bhagavan's consent . There are defects in those works . In matters of `Vastu' , the opinions of more than one Expert need to be sought . > The relocated positions of Upadevas are not compatible with that of Flag staff . > There are reductions in the Poojas . > The Temple Pond has become impure . Many deaths have occurred therein already . It is not maintained as Sacred . > Another Temple Pond having the Divine presence, was filled up totally . > The sacred Ashoka tree near the Bhagavathy Temple was cut down . It's atonement needs to be done . > The Coconuts once offered to Bhagavathy are offered to Her again and again to save cost and time . This is unacceptable to Her . > Sastha , the Upadeva is unhappy due to lapses in His rituals . > Although , the Temple Administrators and their Masters will try to block the proposed remedial measures , Bhagavan's grace will help to complete it . > Guruvayoorappan is unhappy over the lapses in the " Kshethra-

Acharas " ( Temple-Customs) . As a result, Bomb/Fire/Riots might cause mass deaths inside or just outside the Temple . > `Deva-Chaithanyam' ( aura) is intact on the Deity which is unique . > There will be sharp increase in the inflow of Devotees and Temple revenue . > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation . > Bhagavan's money is being misused by the concerned Officials . > Certain Staff are involving in `Adharmic' ( unrighteous) activities inside Temple premises . > Entry on Non-Hindus inside Temple , is unacceptable to Bhagavan . Devotees having firm faith in Deity worship and temple customs are the ones to enter the Temple . > The Thanthri ( Acharya of the temple) , is not allowed by the Devaswom Officials to perform his duties properly . Because of this , Bhagavan is unhappy and the Thantri is very sad . Thanthri's Instructions are being ignored by the Administrators . Therefore, he is not giving anymore instructions . > Temple Officials are misusing the Temple wealth . Both the previous and present Officials are guilty of sinful activities . Some Staff are entering the Temple after consuming Liquor . > There is impurity in the `Nivedaya- items' being offered to Bhagavan . > Bhagvan's favorite , Milk and Plantain Nivedyam have been stopped . > In the Temple's Gokulam , Bhagavan;'s Cows are not looked after properly . Theft and even killing of Cows have occurred . `Go-Sapa' (Curse of Cows) exists . > Within a few months , one Temple Elephant will die . > Please forward this message to as many Bhakthas as possible . Let everyone pray Sree Guruvayoorappan .> Om Namo Narayanaya !!! Please protect us , O Guruvayoor Bhagavan !!!!> > Krishnadaya . > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

November 12, 2007

Om namo narayananya... I agree with jayashankar. I believe that those who don't give value and respect to vedas should not claim themsleves as hindus and know anything about guruvayoorappan. You are questioning your own beliefs. I noticed many times in this and other forums individuals questioning beliefs. If you can believe what your mom says who your father is, then there is always a place for belief in your life.

On Nov 11, 2007 2:14 AM, JAYASHANKAR <shankarmk wrote:

Shambho Mahadeva.... Om namo narayanaya...

Dear Bhaktas,

Great sages have told us to stay away from bad company... They say it is better to keep to yourself if there is no good company available.

In today's world, we must also chose carefully which e-mails/books/news papers etc.. to be read.

I have decided not to open sri Ganapathy Raman's e-mails in future.

Jayashankar

- chirattapuram

guruvayur

Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:19 AM

Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Guruvayoor Devaprasnam Completed on 7 Nov.. ( The Final Details) .

Hari OmWhen writing in forums like this, one is supposed to show some respect for the other devotees. We all differ in our views about almost every subject but that view should not be trust upon others. I wonder why Sri Ganapathy Raman is so hyper about the Devaprasnam. Mr Raman's own comment lacks knowledge and maturity. Devaprasnam is conducted when abnormalities are observed in and around the temple premises. It is not performed by 'SOME astrologers " as Mr Raman claims. These individuals are highly trained and knowledgeable in that field. They are the proper persons to conduct Devaprasnam. You claim that there is no need to invoke the

Lord to find out what are His wishes. Do you, Mr Raman , possess divine or pychic powers to know what the Lord wishes. If so , The Devaswam should use your services instead of invoking the Lord. Now about Churidar.Your

comment about Mr Krishnadaya owning a textile shop is a very silly and childish arguement. If you say women shoud be allowed to wear churidar, what about men? should they not wear suit, tie and shoes to follow the modern trend and to show that we are not living in the Vedic age ? True, common sense is not that very common.It appears Mr Raman does not know what he is talking about.What a pity.Jai Shree Krishna !

guruvayur , GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote:>> I thought Krishnadaya is a person with good knowledge.However after accepting what some astrologers said and accepting the same as said in Vedas he has gone away from tangent and exhibited his ignorance abt the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Really pathetic to succumb to such obnoxious findings of the astrologers in the form of Devaprasnam and one who does not accept the same to be treated as atheist or marxist.I feel sorry for a knowledgeable person like > Krishnadaya.How on earth he finds that the same are the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Many

factors like cleanliness,renovation,reshaping of the existing things can be known to all and the Board has to do it with its enormous funds and there is no necessity to invoke Lord for making the temple a really spiritual abode.For that purpose there is no necessity for Devaprasnam for a number of days and debates spending enormous amount and with that all the things could hv been rectified.It is really pitiable that Krishnadaya has become a victim for such things and dubbing people who say anything against ascommunists.I think he is living in the vedic age.Sorry for for my harsh comments but be practical Krishnadaya.In what way it affects you whether a lady wears churidar instead of saree etc .I hpe you are not running any textile shop near the temple.Bhagawan has never said anything.Why you find fault with that?For your info I don't hv any churidar or other shop.Really sorry abt your anxiety which is nothing but a matter for pity.This is not to> remove your faith which is not my intention but just to keep you informed about the changing times and the necessity for that as change is the order of the day and devotees > from many States can't be expected to wear sarees etc.and Guruvayurappan is not confined Deity only to those of Kerala.All temples everywhere change the customs according to times and Adi Sankara too never said that only those things shuld be followed.It is all the things stemmed out of the peoles's mind who hv got their own interest uppermost.Regarding other things you hv noted I don't hv the patience to read and so not making any comments.But

don't drag the intrepretations of astrologers whatever be their qualifications as the wish of Guruvayurappan as they themselves won't be sure except by intrepreting some planetary positions which hv got nothing to to do with the Cosmic Power that is > Sri Guruvayurappan.Anyway I appreciate your interest on the subject which is not worthwhile to spend time.> > > krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote: > Krishna, Guruvayoorappa ! , Dear Bhakthas , > The Eight day long Guruvayoor " Ashtmangala Devaprasnam " was successfully completed yesterday ( 07 Nov. ) . > What was performed yesterday was verifying Guruvayoorappan's will on the proposed remedial measures . As solution to each of the discovered shortcomings , an offering was proposed with a prayer to the concerned Devatha , and verified His/Her acceptance or rejection, through the analysis of " Rasi " . > 1. At first , praying Guruvayoorappan , it was proposed to submit at His Sopanam, " Bhadradeepam " in Silver pot with " Suvarnakshatha " inside it , Palpayasam worth Rs.1001, " Thrikkaivenna " , " Thrumudimala " , Milk, and Sugar . These will be submitted by the Temple's Ooralan , Othikkanmar , Keezh-Shaanthis, and Other traditional Staff . And after submitting it they all will admit their mistakes to Bhagavan , apologize to Him , and

prostrate at His feet , seeking Bhagavan's forgiveness . In the " Rasi " , " Vyazham " ( Guru) was found in the 9th house . This auspicious revelation confirmed that , Guruvayoorappan is satisfied with the proposed Offerings and Remedial Measures . > 2. In the Mammiyoor Temple , " Rudradhara " & " Pinvilakku " to Siva, " Palpayasam " to Vishnu , and relevant offerings to the other Devathas in Mammiyoor and to the Deities in associated Temples , other nearby Temples, Kannur Idakkad Temple, and Irinjalakkuda Koodal Manikyam Temple , were proposed . It was found to be acceptable to Them . > Remedial Measures > The following Remedial measures were proposed and found to be acceptable to Bhagavan and the Upadevathas : > 1. The Defective Golden Flag Pole shall be replaces with a New one , within next (13) months . > 2. In the Devawom Guest house compound , a " Valkannadi " ( Mirror Image) to be consecrated on the " Karimkali Thara " ( Platform for Karimkali Deity) . And yearly Pooja to be offered there after laying Padmam ( lotus) . > 3. On the Ekadasi day , the procession to the East should halt at it's previous end point " Theeyyar Ambalam " , offer salutations there before proceeding to the Parthasarathy Temple for " Irakkiyezhunnallathu " .> 4. To eliminate the " Sarpa-Dosham " ( ill-effects caused by Serpents) , a golden Sepent-image , and " Puttum " shall be submitted at " Pambumekkavu Mana " ( Temple-Abode of Serpents) . > 5. Symbolic Offering of Elephant to be performed . > 6. To eliminate the ill- effects for the misdeeds of all those associated with the Temple , Devaswom board should conduct every year, " Maha-Sudarshana Homam " ( 96,000 chants) , " Thila- havanam " (1,00,000 chants) , " Sukrutha-Homam " and 12 days long " Ganapthy-Homams " . Also , " Kalkachikichuttu " ( with 108 " Ashtothara shatanamam " ) and " Vilichucholli-prayachittham " will be carried out . As a remedy for various types of Curses , " Murahomam " will be performed every year . Also " Maha-Mrithunjaya Homam " and " Bhagavathy Seva " shall be performed every year . > 7. Every year , a " Sukrutha-Homam " shall be performed with 24, 000 chants of Gayathri-Manthra , to increase the " Sukrutha " of Temple . > 8. Thanthri , himself shall decide and perform his " Prayachittham " ( atonement) to Bhagavan .> 9. Any money offered on the " Thrippadi " ( step to Sreekovil) , belongs to Bhagavan . > 10. As an atonement of Go-sapa ( Curse of Cows) it was first proposed to offer a Cow to Bhagavathy . But , it was not found sufficient . So , a golden image of Cow will be offered to Bhagavathy . > Note : > > It was re-confirmed that , Bhagavan does not accept any amendment to the existing " Kshetra-Acharas " . > Before , the conclusion of Devaprasnam two Members of the Devaswom Managing Committee raised objections . Mr. M.M.Vasudevan alleged that , some of the findings and remedial measures revealed in the Devaprasnam will pull us to 200 years back just for the sake of Acharas . Prof. T.R. Harry stated that , the Girl-students in his college had asked him whether Churidar could be permitted in side the Temple . > The Lead Jyothishi , Padmanabha Sharma calmly pointed out that , the Dress Codes of Educational institutions are not suitable for Temple . While coming to the Temple for Darshan , all Bhakthas should

follow the Dress Code that is prescribed for the Temple . He reiterated that , Guruvayoorappan rejects all sorts of changes to the time-proven " Kshetra-Acharas " . Also , he invited all skeptics to come to the dais to have a debate on the basis of Vedic Injunctions . > The above said , two Members ( who are Marxist Nominees in the Director Board) started yelling " Times have progressed . Churidar must be allowed inside the Temple " . > This infuriated the Bhakthas present there . They declared in one voice " What matters is Guruvayoorappan's will alone . And not the wishes of Others . We do not need Bhagavan-Haters in Guruvayoor Temple , anymore " . > As the situation became vociferous , and the mentioned Atheists were looking for an escape route , Padmanabha Sharma , the Lead Jyothishi pacified the Bhakthas , assuring them that Guruvayoorappan's will shall prevail . > Findings ( 31 Oct. -- 06 Nov. ) . > Summary > > Bhagavan is upset over the violation of " Kshethra Acharas " , Desecration of Temple , Immoral activities inside the Temple , etc by God-haters . Possible, Bomb/Fire/Riot might cause mass killing in or outside the Temple . > Thanthri is Bhagavan's Representative . What he says is to be accepted by everyone . > Golden Flag Pole is defective . Temple- Elephants may pull it down . > No entry to Non-Hindus . Only those having full faith in Deity worship and Kshethra-Acharas , shall enter the Temple. > No change in the Temple's Dress Code . Churidar is unacceptable . It has already caused violence by Elephants . It's continuation will cause death and destruction to all responsible for it . > Upadeva Ganesha's Moorthy and Temple are defective . Renovation , required for His Temple . > Bhgagavan's Cows were stolen and killed . Serious Go-Shapa will cause calamities .

> Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation .> Deratiled Findings > 1. Bhagavan stressed the need to rectify certain structural defects found in the golden Flag Pole of the Temple . It's foundation is damaged due to the attack of insects . Flag Pole is the abode of Bhagavan's vehicle Garuda . It has been dislocated and tilted . If one measures from it's footing to " veeraknadam " (upper portion) , the dislocation can be found out . if the defective Flag Pole is not replaced with a new one , the present Flag Pole will be pulled down by Temple Elephants .> 2. Bhagavan wants the Temple to set up Facilities for the study of Sanskrit and Vedas . The Vedas are very important to Guruvayoor Temple . Necessary Facilities should be provided for higher education of Sanskrit . > 3. Ordinary Bhaktas should not face any hurdle in worshipping Bhagavan due to restrictions made in the name of VIP visits . At present , such difficulties exist and certain Temple staff are behaving rudely with the Bhkthas . This is absolutely unacceptable . Bhagavan is always pleased by the Bhakthy of Common man . > 4. Bhagavan does not want , more than one `Udayasthamana Pooja' in a day . > 5. The Building in side the Temple premises can be taller than the Temple . But it's floor level should be lower than that of Temple . On such floor , any number of storeys can be constructed . This has no relation with the height of Flag Pole . Considering the roads around the Temple as boundary limits, this condition should be

adhered to . > 6. Materials once used for " Thulabharam " can be used again . However, the decayed materials should not be used . > 7. The water from the " Manikkinar " ( Temple's well ) , can be used for Thulabharam . > 8. The future of Bhagavan's presence in Guruvayoor Temple is bright . The present unpleasant issues can be resolved by " Prayrachitham " (Atonement rituals) . These remedial measures must be completed within one year . > ( Note - : Some Devotees brought to the Jyothishis' attention , criticisms in the media against the Jyothishis . But the Jyothishis preferred not to discuss it with Bhagavan . They stated " This Devaprasnam is being conducted strictly according to the Scriptural Injunctions and associated Vedic Shaastras . We are ready to answer any doubts on this . In stead of that , if some one wants to arrest us , we are helpless . ) > > The " Suvarna-Dwajam " ( Golden Flag Pole ) is not vertical and it is in damaged condition . It's present position too is not correct . This may cause Serious Dangers . > Thanthri ( Temple-Acharya ) is not issuing necessary instructions on time. He feels that, what he says will upset the concerned Authorities ; especially since , what he told in the past were ignored totally . Bhagavan is furious over this situation . > Some Devotees pointed out that , Udayastamana Pooja is performed for a single person only ; And therefore is it necessary to close and open the Sreekovil-Door for it ? . > Bhagavan replied that , Poojas are not for one Person only . More Udayasthamana Poojas and Thanthric rites are for increasing the `Deva çhaithanyam' (aura) . > The " Pillaru-Thalappoly " ( Ritualistic Offerings on a plate , by children) , being conducted by the local group , is very satisfying to Bhagavathy ( Upadevi , Durga) . > The Turmeric powder being offered to Bhagavathy , has less purity . > Bhagavathy does not need " Kunkuma-archana " . > In the Devawom guest house , a " Karimkaalithara " ( platform for `Karimkaali –Deity ' ) is to be provided . > A particular person from the " Othikkan " (Traditional Poojari) family, is continuously showing disrespect to the position of Thanthri . Bhagavan is upset over this . If this is not stopped immediately , there will be dire consequences . > In the previous Devawom Cow-Shelter " Kaaveedu " , some Cows were killed . In order to avoid it's ill-effects in the new Cow-Shelter , " Kalasa Pooja " and other atonements to be performed for Bhagavathy . > Some " KeezhShaantis " ( Assistant Poojaris) are not maintaining the necessary personal purity, required for Poojas . This is repeated many times . This will cause calamities in the " Thidappally " ( Platform in front of Sanctum Sanctorum) itself . > Some Temple Staff are not performing their duties properly and are shifting it's blame to others . They are going for other assignments that fetches better income . Also , there is serious infighting among the Staff . > Quoting verses from the " Kapilopadesa in Bhagavatham " , Justice Radhakrishna Menon raised doubts about the previous days revelations on rejection of Churidar . The Jyothishis re-confirmed with evidence that, Bhagavan does not like any amendment to the time-proven " Kshetra-Aachaaras " , in such unauthorized ways . > Change in Dress Code> ( History : On 27th July, Guruvayur Devaswom had relaxed the traditional Temple Dress code to allow Women Devotees to wear Churidar inside the Temple . Earlier, women could wear only dresses such as sari, set-mundu, half-sari and skirt and blouse to the Temple. Even if women wore kurtas to the shrine, they had to wear a `mundu' over the pyjamas. However , soon after the Marxist led agitations seeking amendment of " Kshetra Aachaaras' ( Temple customs) , the Marxist Devaswom Board President announced his decision to allow Churidar inside the Temple. Later this matter was taken up in the Board meeting wherein the Thantri sated his objection . But, the Board flatly refused to revoke it's public announcement and ordered the Thantri to shut up.) > In the wake of Guruvayoorappan's objections to the changes in `Kshetra-Acharas ` , the recent change in Dress code was checked on the fifth day of `Devaprasnam' . During the `Acharyavaranakriya' , when a new cloth was brought , the Board Official instructed to cut it and fetch a small piece out of it . When the cloth was cut , it became ` Gana-vastra' which according to Jyothisha is used for post-death rituals . Based on this `nimitham' ( divine syndrome) ,

Jyothishis analysed further to find out Bhagavan's will . And the following was revealed :> > Devaswam officials had issued a strict instruction to the Thanthri and all concerned to allow Churidar inside the Temple . > Thanthri was not allowed to raise his objection . Because of this , he could not seek Bhagavan's permission or conduct the Social Prayer necessary for seeking Bhagavan's consent for the change of ` Aachaara `. Therefore , instead of a natural change , Dewaswam's will was imposed on Thantri and Bhagavan . Next day, onwards Women started entering the Temple wearing Churidar which was unacceptable to

Bhagavan . This resulted in the violent behavior of Temple-Elephants , Falling down of ` Thidambu'( Festival Deity) , etc . If this non-obedience is continued, it will be harmful to the Person wearing the Churidar and their families . It could result in premature deaths . Even, it could even harm the human kind as a whole . > Guruvayoorappan wants His Bhaktas to wear simple traditional dress inside the Temple . Dresses like Churidar is `paradesi ` (

foreign) , which is unacceptable to Bhagavan. > > Devaswom Shelters for Old and Orphan Bhakthas > Bhagavan reiterated His desire to accommodate and protect His Old and Orphan Bhakthas in a Shelter which should be constructed by Devaswom . He pointed out that , according to His instructions earlier , daily `Prasada Ooottu `( Feeding of the Bhakthas) was started for 500 Bhakthas . Now it is provided daily for 5000 Bhakthas . Likewise , the Shelter will also be a success . While this was discussed , Bhagavatha Hamsam Malliyoor Shankaran Namboothiri ( Guruvayoorappan's legendary Bhakta) , entered the dais of Devaprasnam . Jyothishis found this as the divine omen of Bhagavan''s presence there and Bhaktavalsala's compassion for His Devotees .> > In near future, the cloth of a person arriving for Darshan will be caught fire in the Temple . Also, in the Temple premises , one's wife will be killed by an Elephant or Cow .

> Devaswom Board must consider `Krishnanaattam' (which is very dear to Bhagavan) , as Sacred . In last two years , during Vijayadasami , the 9 days long `Krishnanaattam' is not conducted by Devaswam Board . Devotees are offering it . Devaswam must conduct this with faith . > The " Koothambalam " (Auditorium for Temple Arts) is as important as the Temple . It must be cleaned daily and an Oil lamp to be lit there . > The continuing atonement for removing the previous Temple- Acharyas Puliyannoor Family long back , to be performed properly . It is not carried out decently now . > The Garland for Sreekovil , to be prepared in the Temple itself . > Those working inside the Temple , must use decent Language . > Efforts must be made to keep the Temple clean . > The Daily Ritual " Olavaayana " ( A Warrier temple-staff writes the Day's Income and Expenses on a Palm Leaf and Reads it out to Bhagavan before the closure of Temple , every night ) , has been stopped . Instead it is issued in writing to Him , as a token gesture . Bhagavan is furious at this Cheating . Right from tonight (03 Nov) , " Olavaayana " must be resumed . > The existing " Achaaraas'( Rituals and Practices of the Temple) can not be debated and amended by any ` Acharya-Sabha' ( Assembly of Vedic Acharyas and Experts) . They are to be adhered to as it is . > The `Guru-parambara' relationship in the Temple, has been

lost . > The `Thidambu' ( Festival Moorthy) has fallen down . For that, `prayachitha' atonement was not done properly . > Bhagavan is unhappy over the financial burden being imposed on His Bhakthas , by Devaswom Board's frequent increases in the material cost of Offerings . > `Prasadam' is being sold in the Shops outside the Temple. > There are defects in the Moorthy of Ganapathy , the Upadeva . Waste materials are stockpiled inside His temple . His displeasure will cause irritation to the Temple Elephants . Renovation of His temple needs to be done . > The Construction works inside the Temple premises , were carried out without Bhagavan's consent . There are defects in those works . In matters of `Vastu' , the opinions of more than one Expert need to be sought . > The relocated positions of Upadevas are not compatible with that of Flag staff . > There are reductions in the Poojas . > The Temple Pond has become impure . Many deaths have occurred therein already . It is not maintained as Sacred . > Another Temple Pond having the Divine presence, was filled up totally . > The sacred Ashoka tree near the Bhagavathy Temple was cut down . It's atonement needs to be done . > The Coconuts once offered to Bhagavathy are offered to Her again and again to save cost and time . This is unacceptable to Her . > Sastha , the Upadeva is unhappy due to lapses in His rituals . > Although , the Temple Administrators and their Masters will try to block the proposed remedial measures , Bhagavan's grace will help to complete it . > Guruvayoorappan is unhappy over the lapses in the " Kshethra- Acharas " ( Temple-Customs) . As a result, Bomb/Fire/Riots might cause mass deaths inside or just outside the Temple . > `Deva-Chaithanyam' ( aura) is intact on the Deity which is unique . > There will be sharp increase in the inflow of Devotees and Temple revenue . > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation . > Bhagavan's money is being misused by the concerned Officials . > Certain Staff are involving in `Adharmic' ( unrighteous) activities inside Temple premises . > Entry on Non-Hindus inside Temple , is unacceptable to Bhagavan . Devotees having firm faith in Deity worship and temple customs are the ones to enter the Temple . > The Thanthri ( Acharya of the temple) , is not allowed by the Devaswom Officials to perform his duties properly . Because of this , Bhagavan is unhappy and the Thantri is very sad . Thanthri's Instructions are being ignored by the Administrators . Therefore, he is not giving anymore instructions . > Temple Officials are misusing the Temple wealth . Both the previous and present Officials are guilty of sinful activities . Some Staff are entering the Temple after consuming Liquor . > There is impurity in the `Nivedaya- items' being offered to Bhagavan . > Bhagvan's favorite , Milk and Plantain Nivedyam have been stopped . > In the Temple's Gokulam , Bhagavan;'s Cows are not looked after properly . Theft and even killing of Cows have occurred . `Go-Sapa' (Curse of Cows) exists . > Within a few months , one Temple Elephant will die . > Please forward this message to as many Bhakthas as possible . Let everyone pray Sree Guruvayoorappan .> Om Namo Narayanaya !!! Please protect us , O Guruvayoor Bhagavan !!!!> > Krishnadaya . > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

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I hv never asked to open my mails at any time,dear friend.So much so you will become more wiser.JAYASHANKAR <shankarmk wrote: Shambho Mahadeva.... Om namo narayanaya... Dear Bhaktas, Great sages have told us to stay away from

bad company... They say it is better to keep to yourself if there is no good company available. In today's world, we must also chose carefully which e-mails/books/news papers etc.. to be read. I have decided not to open sri Ganapathy Raman's e-mails in future. Jayashankar - chirattapuram guruvayur Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:19 AM Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Guruvayoor Devaprasnam Completed on 7 Nov.. ( The Final Details) . Hari OmWhen writing in forums like this, one is supposed to show some respect for the other devotees. We all differ in our views about almost every subject but that view should not be trust upon others. I wonder why Sri Ganapathy Raman is so hyper about the Devaprasnam. Mr Raman's own comment lacks knowledge and maturity. Devaprasnam is conducted when abnormalities are observed in and around the temple premises. It is not performed by 'SOME astrologers " as Mr Raman claims. These individuals are highly trained and knowledgeable in that field. They are the proper persons to conduct

Devaprasnam. You claim that there is no need to invoke the Lord to find out what are His wishes. Do you, Mr Raman , possess divine or pychic powers to know what the Lord wishes. If so , The Devaswam should use your services instead of invoking the Lord. Now about Churidar.Your comment about Mr Krishnadaya owning a textile shop is a very silly and childish arguement. If you say women shoud be allowed to wear churidar, what about men? should they not wear suit, tie and shoes to follow the modern trend and to show that we are not living in the Vedic age ? True, common sense is not that very common.It appears Mr Raman does not know what he is talking about.What a pity.Jai Shree Krishna !guruvayur , GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote:>> I thought Krishnadaya is a person with good knowledge.However after

accepting what some astrologers said and accepting the same as said in Vedas he has gone away from tangent and exhibited his ignorance abt the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Really pathetic to succumb to such obnoxious findings of the astrologers in the form of Devaprasnam and one who does not accept the same to be treated as atheist or marxist.I feel sorry for a knowledgeable person like > Krishnadaya.How on earth he finds that the same are the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Many factors like cleanliness,renovation,reshaping of the existing things can be known to all and the Board has to do it with its enormous funds and there is no necessity to invoke Lord for making the temple a really spiritual abode.For that purpose there is no necessity for Devaprasnam for a number of days and debates spending enormous amount and with that all the things could hv been rectified.It is

really pitiable that Krishnadaya has become a victim for such things and dubbing people who say anything against ascommunists.I think he is living in the vedic age.Sorry for for my harsh comments but be practical Krishnadaya.In what way it affects you whether a lady wears churidar instead of saree etc .I hpe you are not running any textile shop near the temple.Bhagawan has never said anything.Why you find fault with that?For your info I don't hv any churidar or other shop.Really sorry abt your anxiety which is nothing but a matter for pity.This is not to> remove your faith which is not my intention but just to keep you informed about the changing times and the necessity for that as change is the order of the day and devotees > from many States can't be expected to wear sarees etc.and Guruvayurappan is not confined Deity only to those of Kerala.All temples everywhere change the customs according to

times and Adi Sankara too never said that only those things shuld be followed.It is all the things stemmed out of the peoles's mind who hv got their own interest uppermost.Regarding other things you hv noted I don't hv the patience to read and so not making any comments.But don't drag the intrepretations of astrologers whatever be their qualifications as the wish of Guruvayurappan as they themselves won't be sure except by intrepreting some planetary positions which hv got nothing to to do with the Cosmic Power that is > Sri Guruvayurappan.Anyway I appreciate your interest on the subject which is not worthwhile to spend time.> > > krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:> Krishna, Guruvayoorappa ! , Dear Bhakthas , > The Eight day long Guruvayoor "Ashtmangala Devaprasnam" was successfully completed yesterday ( 07 Nov. ) . > What was performed yesterday was verifying

Guruvayoorappan's will on the proposed remedial measures . As solution to each of the discovered shortcomings , an offering was proposed with a prayer to the concerned Devatha , and verified His/Her acceptance or rejection, through the analysis of "Rasi" .> 1. At first , praying Guruvayoorappan , it was proposed to submit at His Sopanam, "Bhadradeepam" in Silver pot with "Suvarnakshatha" inside it , Palpayasam worth Rs.1001, "Thrikkaivenna" , "Thrumudimala" , Milk, and Sugar . These will be submitted by the Temple's Ooralan , Othikkanmar , Keezh-Shaanthis, and Other traditional Staff . And after submitting it they all will admit their mistakes to Bhagavan , apologize to Him , and prostrate at His feet , seeking Bhagavan's forgiveness . In the "Rasi" , "Vyazham" ( Guru) was found in the 9th house . This auspicious revelation confirmed that , Guruvayoorappan is satisfied with the proposed Offerings and

Remedial Measures . > 2. In the Mammiyoor Temple , "Rudradhara" & "Pinvilakku" to Siva, "Palpayasam" to Vishnu , and relevant offerings to the other Devathas in Mammiyoor and to the Deities in associated Temples , other nearby Temples, Kannur Idakkad Temple, and Irinjalakkuda Koodal Manikyam Temple , were proposed . It was found to be acceptable to Them . > Remedial Measures > The following Remedial measures were proposed and found to be acceptable to Bhagavan and the Upadevathas : > 1. The Defective Golden Flag Pole shall be replaces with a New one , within next (13) months . > 2. In the Devawom Guest house compound , a "Valkannadi " ( Mirror Image) to be consecrated on the "Karimkali Thara"( Platform for Karimkali Deity) . And yearly Pooja to be offered there after laying Padmam ( lotus) . > 3. On the Ekadasi day , the procession to the East should halt at it's previous end point "

Theeyyar Ambalam" , offer salutations there before proceeding to the Parthasarathy Temple for "Irakkiyezhunnallathu" .> 4. To eliminate the "Sarpa-Dosham" ( ill-effects caused by Serpents) , a golden Sepent-image , and "Puttum" shall be submitted at "Pambumekkavu Mana " ( Temple-Abode of Serpents) . > 5. Symbolic Offering of Elephant to be performed . > 6. To eliminate the ill- effects for the misdeeds of all those associated with the Temple , Devaswom board should conduct every year, "Maha-Sudarshana Homam" ( 96,000 chants) , "Thila-havanam" (1,00,000 chants) , "Sukrutha-Homam" and 12 days long "Ganapthy-Homams" . Also , "Kalkachikichuttu" ( with 108 "Ashtothara shatanamam") and "Vilichucholli-prayachittham" will be carried out . As a remedy for various types of Curses , "Murahomam" will be performed every year . Also "Maha-Mrithunjaya Homam" and "Bhagavathy Seva" shall be performed every

year . > 7. Every year , a "Sukrutha-Homam" shall be performed with 24, 000 chants of Gayathri-Manthra , to increase the "Sukrutha" of Temple . > 8. Thanthri , himself shall decide and perform his "Prayachittham" ( atonement) to Bhagavan .> 9. Any money offered on the "Thrippadi" ( step to Sreekovil) , belongs to Bhagavan . > 10. As an atonement of Go-sapa ( Curse of Cows) it was first proposed to offer a Cow to Bhagavathy . But , it was not found sufficient . So , a golden image of Cow will be offered to Bhagavathy . > Note : > > It was re-confirmed that , Bhagavan does not accept any amendment to the existing "Kshetra-Acharas" . > Before , the conclusion of Devaprasnam two Members of the Devaswom Managing Committee raised objections . Mr. M.M.Vasudevan alleged that , some of the findings and remedial measures revealed in the Devaprasnam will pull us to 200 years back

just for the sake of Acharas . Prof. T.R. Harry stated that , the Girl-students in his college had asked him whether Churidar could be permitted in side the Temple . > The Lead Jyothishi , Padmanabha Sharma calmly pointed out that , the Dress Codes of Educational institutions are not suitable for Temple . While coming to the Temple for Darshan , all Bhakthas should follow the Dress Code that is prescribed for the Temple . He reiterated that , Guruvayoorappan rejects all sorts of changes to the time-proven "Kshetra-Acharas" . Also , he invited all skeptics to come to the dais to have a debate on the basis of Vedic Injunctions . > The above said , two Members ( who are Marxist Nominees in the Director Board) started yelling "Times have progressed . Churidar must be allowed inside the Temple " . > This infuriated the Bhakthas present there . They declared in one voice " What matters is

Guruvayoorappan's will alone . And not the wishes of Others . We do not need Bhagavan-Haters in Guruvayoor Temple , anymore " . > As the situation became vociferous , and the mentioned Atheists were looking for an escape route , Padmanabha Sharma , the Lead Jyothishi pacified the Bhakthas , assuring them that Guruvayoorappan's will shall prevail . > Findings ( 31 Oct. -- 06 Nov. ) . > Summary > > Bhagavan is upset over the violation of "Kshethra Acharas" , Desecration of Temple , Immoral activities inside the Temple , etc by God-haters . Possible, Bomb/Fire/Riot might cause mass killing in or outside the Temple . > Thanthri is Bhagavan's Representative . What he says is to be accepted by everyone . > Golden Flag Pole is defective . Temple- Elephants may pull it down . > No entry to Non-Hindus . Only those having full faith in Deity worship and Kshethra-Acharas ,

shall enter the Temple. > No change in the Temple's Dress Code . Churidar is unacceptable . It has already caused violence by Elephants . It's continuation will cause death and destruction to all responsible for it . > Upadeva Ganesha's Moorthy and Temple are defective . Renovation , required for His Temple . > Bhgagavan's Cows were stolen and killed . Serious Go-Shapa will cause calamities . > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation .> Deratiled Findings > 1. Bhagavan stressed the need to rectify certain structural defects found in the golden Flag Pole of the Temple . It's foundation is damaged due to the attack of insects . Flag Pole is the abode of Bhagavan's vehicle Garuda . It has been dislocated and tilted . If one measures from it's footing to

"veeraknadam" (upper portion) , the dislocation can be found out . if the defective Flag Pole is not replaced with a new one , the present Flag Pole will be pulled down by Temple Elephants .> 2. Bhagavan wants the Temple to set up Facilities for the study of Sanskrit and Vedas . The Vedas are very important to Guruvayoor Temple . Necessary Facilities should be provided for higher education of Sanskrit . > 3. Ordinary Bhaktas should not face any hurdle in worshipping Bhagavan due to restrictions made in the name of VIP visits . At present , such difficulties exist and certain Temple staff are behaving rudely with the Bhkthas . This is absolutely unacceptable . Bhagavan is always pleased by the Bhakthy of Common man . > 4. Bhagavan does not want , more than one `Udayasthamana Pooja' in a day . > 5. The Building in side the Temple premises can be taller than the Temple . But it's floor level

should be lower than that of Temple . On such floor , any number of storeys can be constructed . This has no relation with the height of Flag Pole . Considering the roads around the Temple as boundary limits, this condition should be adhered to . > 6. Materials once used for "Thulabharam" can be used again . However, the decayed materials should not be used . > 7. The water from the "Manikkinar" ( Temple's well ) , can be used for Thulabharam . > 8. The future of Bhagavan's presence in Guruvayoor Temple is bright . The present unpleasant issues can be resolved by "Prayrachitham" (Atonement rituals) . These remedial measures must be completed within one year . > ( Note - : Some Devotees brought to the Jyothishis' attention , criticisms in the media against the Jyothishis . But the Jyothishis preferred not to discuss it with Bhagavan . They stated " This Devaprasnam is being conducted strictly

according to the Scriptural Injunctions and associated Vedic Shaastras . We are ready to answer any doubts on this . In stead of that , if some one wants to arrest us , we are helpless . ) > > The "Suvarna-Dwajam" ( Golden Flag Pole ) is not vertical and it is in damaged condition . It's present position too is not correct . This may cause Serious Dangers . > Thanthri ( Temple-Acharya ) is not issuing necessary instructions on time. He feels that, what he says will upset the concerned Authorities ; especially since , what he told in the past were ignored totally . Bhagavan is furious over this situation . > Some Devotees pointed out that , Udayastamana Pooja is performed for a single person only ; And therefore is it necessary to close and open the Sreekovil-Door for it ? . > Bhagavan replied that , Poojas are not for one Person only . More Udayasthamana Poojas and Thanthric rites are for

increasing the `Deva çhaithanyam' (aura) . > The "Pillaru-Thalappoly " ( Ritualistic Offerings on a plate , by children) , being conducted by the local group , is very satisfying to Bhagavathy ( Upadevi , Durga) . > The Turmeric powder being offered to Bhagavathy , has less purity . > Bhagavathy does not need "Kunkuma-archana" . > In the Devawom guest house , a "Karimkaalithara" ( platform for `Karimkaali –Deity ' ) is to be provided . > A particular person from the " Othikkan " (Traditional Poojari) family, is continuously showing disrespect to the position of Thanthri . Bhagavan is upset over this . If this is not stopped immediately , there will be dire consequences . > In the previous Devawom Cow-Shelter "Kaaveedu" , some Cows were killed . In order to avoid it's ill-effects in the new Cow-Shelter , "Kalasa Pooja" and other atonements to be performed for Bhagavathy . > Some

"KeezhShaantis" ( Assistant Poojaris) are not maintaining the necessary personal purity, required for Poojas . This is repeated many times . This will cause calamities in the "Thidappally" ( Platform in front of Sanctum Sanctorum) itself . > Some Temple Staff are not performing their duties properly and are shifting it's blame to others . They are going for other assignments that fetches better income . Also , there is serious infighting among the Staff . > Quoting verses from the "Kapilopadesa in Bhagavatham" , Justice Radhakrishna Menon raised doubts about the previous days revelations on rejection of Churidar . The Jyothishis re-confirmed with evidence that, Bhagavan does not like any amendment to the time-proven "Kshetra-Aachaaras" , in such unauthorized ways . > Change in Dress Code> ( History : On 27th July, Guruvayur Devaswom had relaxed the traditional Temple Dress code to allow Women Devotees

to wear Churidar inside the Temple . Earlier, women could wear only dresses such as sari, set-mundu, half-sari and skirt and blouse to the Temple. Even if women wore kurtas to the shrine, they had to wear a `mundu' over the pyjamas. However , soon after the Marxist led agitations seeking amendment of "Kshetra Aachaaras' ( Temple customs) , the Marxist Devaswom Board President announced his decision to allow Churidar inside the Temple. Later this matter was taken up in the Board meeting wherein the Thantri sated his objection . But, the Board flatly refused to revoke it's public announcement and ordered the Thantri to shut up.) > In the wake of Guruvayoorappan's objections to the changes in `Kshetra-Acharas ` , the recent change in Dress code was checked on the fifth day of `Devaprasnam' . During the `Acharyavaranakriya' , when a new cloth was brought , the Board Official instructed to cut it and fetch

a small piece out of it . When the cloth was cut , it became ` Gana-vastra' which according to Jyothisha is used for post-death rituals . Based on this `nimitham' ( divine syndrome) , Jyothishis analysed further to find out Bhagavan's will . And the following was revealed :> > Devaswam officials had issued a strict instruction to the Thanthri and all concerned to allow Churidar inside the Temple . > Thanthri was not allowed to raise his objection . Because of this , he could not seek Bhagavan's permission or conduct the Social Prayer necessary for seeking Bhagavan's consent for the change of ` Aachaara `. Therefore , instead of a natural change , Dewaswam's will was imposed on Thantri and Bhagavan . Next day, onwards Women started entering the Temple wearing Churidar which was unacceptable to Bhagavan . This resulted in the violent behavior of Temple-Elephants , Falling down of ` Thidambu'( Festival

Deity) , etc . If this non-obedience is continued, it will be harmful to the Person wearing the Churidar and their families . It could result in premature deaths . Even, it could even harm the human kind as a whole . > Guruvayoorappan wants His Bhaktas to wear simple traditional dress inside the Temple . Dresses like Churidar is `paradesi ` ( foreign) , which is unacceptable to Bhagavan. > > Devaswom Shelters for Old and Orphan Bhakthas > Bhagavan reiterated His desire to accommodate and protect His Old and Orphan Bhakthas in a Shelter which should be constructed by Devaswom . He pointed out that , according to His instructions earlier , daily `Prasada Ooottu `( Feeding of the Bhakthas) was started for 500 Bhakthas . Now it is provided daily for 5000 Bhakthas . Likewise , the Shelter will also be a success . While this was discussed , Bhagavatha Hamsam Malliyoor Shankaran Namboothiri (

Guruvayoorappan's legendary Bhakta) , entered the dais of Devaprasnam . Jyothishis found this as the divine omen of Bhagavan''s presence there and Bhaktavalsala's compassion for His Devotees .> > In near future, the cloth of a person arriving for Darshan will be caught fire in the Temple . Also, in the Temple premises , one's wife will be killed by an Elephant or Cow . > Devaswom Board must consider `Krishnanaattam' (which is very dear to Bhagavan) , as Sacred . In last two years , during Vijayadasami , the 9 days long `Krishnanaattam' is not conducted by Devaswam Board . Devotees are offering it . Devaswam must conduct this with faith . > The "Koothambalam" (Auditorium for Temple Arts) is as important as the Temple . It must be cleaned daily and an Oil lamp to be lit there . > The continuing atonement for removing the previous Temple-Acharyas Puliyannoor Family long back , to

be performed properly . It is not carried out decently now . > The Garland for Sreekovil , to be prepared in the Temple itself . > Those working inside the Temple , must use decent Language . > Efforts must be made to keep the Temple clean . > The Daily Ritual " Olavaayana " ( A Warrier temple-staff writes the Day's Income and Expenses on a Palm Leaf and Reads it out to Bhagavan before the closure of Temple , every night ) , has been stopped . Instead it is issued in writing to Him , as a token gesture . Bhagavan is furious at this Cheating . Right from tonight (03 Nov) , "Olavaayana" must be resumed . > The existing "Achaaraas'( Rituals and Practices of the Temple) can not be debated and amended by any ` Acharya-Sabha' ( Assembly of Vedic Acharyas and Experts) . They are to be adhered to as it is . > The `Guru-parambara' relationship in the Temple, has been lost . > The `Thidambu' (

Festival Moorthy) has fallen down . For that, `prayachitha' atonement was not done properly . > Bhagavan is unhappy over the financial burden being imposed on His Bhakthas , by Devaswom Board's frequent increases in the material cost of Offerings . > `Prasadam' is being sold in the Shops outside the Temple. > There are defects in the Moorthy of Ganapathy , the Upadeva . Waste materials are stockpiled inside His temple . His displeasure will cause irritation to the Temple Elephants . Renovation of His temple needs to be done . > The Construction works inside the Temple premises , were carried out without Bhagavan's consent . There are defects in those works . In matters of `Vastu' , the opinions of more than one Expert need to be sought . > The relocated positions of Upadevas are not compatible with that of Flag staff . > There are reductions in the Poojas . > The Temple Pond has become

impure . Many deaths have occurred therein already . It is not maintained as Sacred . > Another Temple Pond having the Divine presence, was filled up totally . > The sacred Ashoka tree near the Bhagavathy Temple was cut down . It's atonement needs to be done . > The Coconuts once offered to Bhagavathy are offered to Her again and again to save cost and time . This is unacceptable to Her . > Sastha , the Upadeva is unhappy due to lapses in His rituals . > Although , the Temple Administrators and their Masters will try to block the proposed remedial measures , Bhagavan's grace will help to complete it . > Guruvayoorappan is unhappy over the lapses in the " Kshethra-Acharas" ( Temple-Customs) . As a result, Bomb/Fire/Riots might cause mass deaths inside or just outside the Temple . > `Deva-Chaithanyam' ( aura) is intact on the Deity which is unique . > There will be sharp increase in

the inflow of Devotees and Temple revenue . > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation . > Bhagavan's money is being misused by the concerned Officials . > Certain Staff are involving in `Adharmic' ( unrighteous) activities inside Temple premises . > Entry on Non-Hindus inside Temple , is unacceptable to Bhagavan . Devotees having firm faith in Deity worship and temple customs are the ones to enter the Temple . > The Thanthri ( Acharya of the temple) , is not allowed by the Devaswom Officials to perform his duties properly . Because of this , Bhagavan is unhappy and the Thantri is very sad . Thanthri's Instructions are being ignored by the Administrators . Therefore, he is not giving anymore instructions . > Temple Officials are misusing the Temple wealth . Both

the previous and present Officials are guilty of sinful activities . Some Staff are entering the Temple after consuming Liquor . > There is impurity in the `Nivedaya- items' being offered to Bhagavan . > Bhagvan's favorite , Milk and Plantain Nivedyam have been stopped . > In the Temple's Gokulam , Bhagavan;'s Cows are not looked after properly . Theft and even killing of Cows have occurred . `Go-Sapa' (Curse of Cows) exists . > Within a few months , one Temple Elephant will die . > Please forward this message to as many Bhakthas as possible . Let everyone pray Sree Guruvayoorappan .> Om Namo Narayanaya !!! Please protect us , O Guruvayoor Bhagavan !!!!> > Krishnadaya . > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

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oh whatever !!On Nov 12, 2007 6:55 AM, GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote:

I hv never asked to open my mails at any time,dear friend.So much so you will become more wiser.JAYASHANKAR <

shankarmk wrote: Shambho Mahadeva.... Om namo narayanaya...

Dear Bhaktas,

Great sages have told us to stay away from

bad company... They say it is better to keep to yourself if there is no good company available.

In today's world, we must also chose carefully which e-mails/books/news papers etc.. to be read.

I have decided not to open sri Ganapathy Raman's e-mails in future. Jayashankar

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guruvayur Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:19 AM Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Guruvayoor Devaprasnam Completed on 7 Nov.. ( The Final Details) .

Hari OmWhen writing in forums like this, one is supposed to show some respect for the other devotees. We all differ in our views about almost every subject but that view should not be trust upon others. I wonder why Sri Ganapathy Raman is so hyper about the Devaprasnam. Mr Raman's own comment lacks knowledge and maturity. Devaprasnam is conducted when abnormalities are observed in and around the temple premises. It is not performed by 'SOME astrologers " as Mr Raman claims. These individuals are highly trained and knowledgeable in that field. They are the proper persons to conduct

Devaprasnam. You claim that there is no need to invoke the Lord to find out what are His wishes. Do you, Mr Raman , possess divine or pychic powers to know what the Lord wishes. If so , The Devaswam should use your services instead of invoking the Lord. Now about Churidar.Your comment about Mr Krishnadaya owning a textile shop is a very silly and childish arguement. If you say women shoud be allowed to wear churidar, what about men? should they not wear suit, tie and shoes to follow the modern trend and to show that we are not living in the Vedic age ? True, common sense is not that very common.It appears Mr Raman does not know what he is talking about.What a pity.Jai Shree Krishna !

guruvayur , GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote:>> I thought Krishnadaya is a person with good knowledge.However after

accepting what some astrologers said and accepting the same as said in Vedas he has gone away from tangent and exhibited his ignorance abt the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Really pathetic to succumb to such obnoxious findings of the astrologers in the form of Devaprasnam and one who does not accept the same to be treated as atheist or marxist.I feel sorry for a knowledgeable person like > Krishnadaya.How on earth he finds that the same are the wishes of Sri > Guruvayurappan.Many factors like cleanliness,renovation,reshaping of the existing things can be known to all and the Board has to do it with its enormous funds and there is no necessity to invoke Lord for making the temple a really spiritual abode.For that purpose there is no necessity for Devaprasnam for a number of days and debates spending enormous amount and with that all the things could hv been rectified.It

is

really pitiable that Krishnadaya has become a victim for such things and dubbing people who say anything against ascommunists.I think he is living in the vedic age.Sorry for for my harsh comments but be practical Krishnadaya.In what way it affects you whether a lady wears churidar instead of saree etc .I hpe you are not running any textile shop near the temple.Bhagawan has never said anything.Why you find fault with that?For your info I don't hv any churidar or other shop.Really sorry abt your anxiety which is nothing but a matter for pity.This is not to> remove your faith which is not my intention but just to keep you informed about the changing times and the necessity for that as change is the order of the day and devotees > from many States can't be expected to wear sarees etc.and Guruvayurappan is not confined Deity only to those of Kerala.All temples everywhere change the customs according to

times and Adi Sankara too never said that only those things shuld be followed.It is all the things stemmed out of the peoles's mind who hv got their own interest uppermost.Regarding other things you hv noted I don't hv the patience to read and so not making any comments.But don't drag the intrepretations of astrologers whatever be their qualifications as the wish of Guruvayurappan as they themselves won't be sure except by intrepreting some planetary positions which hv got nothing to to do with the Cosmic Power that is > Sri Guruvayurappan.Anyway I appreciate your interest on the subject which is not worthwhile to spend time.

> > > krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:> Krishna, Guruvayoorappa ! , Dear Bhakthas , > The Eight day long Guruvayoor " Ashtmangala Devaprasnam " was successfully completed yesterday ( 07 Nov. ) . > What was performed yesterday was verifying

Guruvayoorappan's will on the proposed remedial measures . As solution to each of the discovered shortcomings , an offering was proposed with a prayer to the concerned Devatha , and verified His/Her acceptance or rejection, through the analysis of " Rasi " .> 1. At first , praying Guruvayoorappan , it was proposed to submit at His Sopanam, " Bhadradeepam " in Silver pot with " Suvarnakshatha " inside it , Palpayasam worth Rs.1001, " Thrikkaivenna " , " Thrumudimala " , Milk, and Sugar . These will be submitted by the Temple's Ooralan , Othikkanmar , Keezh-Shaanthis, and Other traditional Staff . And after submitting it they all will admit their mistakes to Bhagavan , apologize to Him , and prostrate at His feet , seeking Bhagavan's forgiveness . In the " Rasi " , " Vyazham " ( Guru) was found in the 9th house . This auspicious revelation confirmed that , Guruvayoorappan is satisfied with the proposed Offerings and

Remedial Measures . > 2. In the Mammiyoor Temple , " Rudradhara " & " Pinvilakku " to Siva, " Palpayasam " to Vishnu , and relevant offerings to the other Devathas in Mammiyoor and to the Deities in associated Temples , other nearby Temples, Kannur Idakkad Temple, and Irinjalakkuda Koodal Manikyam Temple , were proposed . It was found to be acceptable to Them . > Remedial Measures > The following Remedial measures were proposed and found to be acceptable to Bhagavan and the Upadevathas : > 1. The Defective Golden Flag Pole shall be replaces with a New one , within next (13) months . > 2. In the Devawom Guest house compound , a " Valkannadi " ( Mirror Image) to be consecrated on the " Karimkali Thara " ( Platform for Karimkali Deity) . And yearly Pooja to be offered there after laying Padmam ( lotus) . > 3. On the Ekadasi day , the procession to the East should halt at it's previous end point "

Theeyyar Ambalam " , offer salutations there before proceeding to the Parthasarathy Temple for " Irakkiyezhunnallathu " .> 4. To eliminate the " Sarpa-Dosham " ( ill-effects caused by Serpents) , a golden Sepent-image , and " Puttum " shall be submitted at " Pambumekkavu Mana " ( Temple-Abode of Serpents) . > 5. Symbolic Offering of Elephant to be performed . > 6. To eliminate the ill- effects for the misdeeds of all those associated with the Temple , Devaswom board should conduct every year, " Maha-Sudarshana Homam " ( 96,000 chants) , " Thila-havanam " (1,00,000 chants) , " Sukrutha-Homam " and 12 days long " Ganapthy-Homams " . Also , " Kalkachikichuttu " ( with 108 " Ashtothara shatanamam " ) and " Vilichucholli-prayachittham " will be carried out . As a remedy for various types of Curses , " Murahomam " will be performed every year . Also " Maha-Mrithunjaya Homam " and " Bhagavathy Seva " shall be performed every

year . > 7. Every year , a " Sukrutha-Homam " shall be performed with 24, 000 chants of Gayathri-Manthra , to increase the " Sukrutha " of Temple . > 8. Thanthri , himself shall decide and perform his " Prayachittham " ( atonement) to Bhagavan .> 9. Any money offered on the " Thrippadi " ( step to Sreekovil) , belongs to Bhagavan . > 10. As an atonement of Go-sapa ( Curse of Cows) it was first proposed to offer a Cow to Bhagavathy . But , it was not found sufficient . So , a golden image of Cow will be offered to Bhagavathy . > Note : > > It was re-confirmed that , Bhagavan does not accept any amendment to the existing " Kshetra-Acharas " . > Before , the conclusion of Devaprasnam two Members of the Devaswom Managing Committee raised objections . Mr. M.M.Vasudevan alleged that , some of the findings and remedial measures revealed in the Devaprasnam will pull us to 200 years back

just for the sake of Acharas . Prof. T.R. Harry stated that , the Girl-students in his college had asked him whether Churidar could be permitted in side the Temple . > The Lead Jyothishi , Padmanabha Sharma calmly pointed out that , the Dress Codes of Educational institutions are not suitable for Temple . While coming to the Temple for Darshan , all Bhakthas should follow the Dress Code that is prescribed for the Temple . He reiterated that , Guruvayoorappan rejects all sorts of changes to the time-proven " Kshetra-Acharas " . Also , he invited all skeptics to come to the dais to have a debate on the basis of Vedic Injunctions . > The above said , two Members ( who are Marxist Nominees in the Director Board) started yelling " Times have progressed . Churidar must be allowed inside the Temple " . > This infuriated the Bhakthas present there . They declared in one voice " What matters is

Guruvayoorappan's will alone . And not the wishes of Others . We do not need Bhagavan-Haters in Guruvayoor Temple , anymore " . > As the situation became vociferous , and the mentioned Atheists

were looking for an escape route , Padmanabha Sharma , the Lead Jyothishi pacified the Bhakthas , assuring them that Guruvayoorappan's will shall prevail . > Findings ( 31 Oct. -- 06 Nov. ) . > Summary > > Bhagavan is upset over the violation of " Kshethra Acharas " , Desecration of Temple , Immoral activities inside the Temple , etc by God-haters . Possible, Bomb/Fire/Riot might cause mass killing in or outside the Temple . > Thanthri is Bhagavan's Representative . What he says is to be accepted by everyone . > Golden Flag Pole is defective . Temple- Elephants may pull it down . > No entry to Non-Hindus . Only those having full faith in Deity worship and Kshethra-Acharas ,

shall enter the Temple. > No change in the Temple's Dress Code . Churidar is unacceptable . It has already caused violence by Elephants . It's continuation will cause death and destruction to all responsible for it . > Upadeva Ganesha's Moorthy and Temple are defective . Renovation , required for His Temple . > Bhgagavan's Cows were stolen and killed . Serious Go-Shapa will cause calamities .

> Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation .> Deratiled Findings > 1. Bhagavan stressed the need to rectify certain structural defects found in the golden Flag Pole of the Temple . It's foundation is damaged due to the attack of insects . Flag Pole is the abode of Bhagavan's vehicle Garuda . It has been dislocated and tilted . If one measures from it's footing to

" veeraknadam " (upper portion) , the dislocation can be found out . if the defective Flag Pole is not replaced with a new one , the present Flag Pole will be pulled down by Temple Elephants .> 2. Bhagavan wants the Temple to set up Facilities for the study of Sanskrit and Vedas . The Vedas are very important to Guruvayoor Temple . Necessary Facilities should be provided for higher education of Sanskrit . > 3. Ordinary Bhaktas should not face any hurdle in worshipping Bhagavan due to restrictions made in the name of VIP visits . At present , such difficulties exist and certain Temple staff are behaving rudely with the Bhkthas . This is absolutely unacceptable . Bhagavan is always pleased by the Bhakthy of Common man . > 4. Bhagavan does not want , more than one `Udayasthamana Pooja' in a day . > 5. The Building in side the Temple premises can be taller than the Temple . But it's floor level

should be lower than that of Temple . On such floor , any number of storeys can be constructed . This has no relation with the height of Flag Pole . Considering the roads around the Temple as boundary limits, this condition should be adhered to . > 6. Materials once used for " Thulabharam " can be used again . However, the decayed materials should not be used . > 7. The water from the " Manikkinar " ( Temple's well ) , can be used for Thulabharam . > 8. The future of Bhagavan's presence in Guruvayoor Temple is bright . The present unpleasant issues can be resolved by " Prayrachitham " (Atonement rituals) . These remedial measures must be completed within one year . > ( Note - : Some Devotees brought to the Jyothishis' attention , criticisms in the media against the Jyothishis . But the Jyothishis preferred not to discuss it with Bhagavan . They stated " This Devaprasnam is being conducted strictly

according to the Scriptural Injunctions and associated Vedic Shaastras . We are ready to answer any doubts on this . In stead of that , if some one wants to arrest us , we are helpless . ) > > The " Suvarna-Dwajam " ( Golden Flag Pole ) is not vertical and it is in damaged condition . It's present position too is not correct . This may cause Serious Dangers . > Thanthri ( Temple-Acharya ) is not issuing necessary instructions on time. He feels that, what he says will upset the concerned Authorities ; especially since , what he told in the past were ignored totally . Bhagavan is furious over this situation . > Some Devotees pointed out that , Udayastamana Pooja is performed for a single person only ; And therefore is it necessary to close and open the Sreekovil-Door for it ? . > Bhagavan replied that , Poojas are not for one Person only . More Udayasthamana Poojas and Thanthric rites are for

increasing the `Deva çhaithanyam' (aura) . > The " Pillaru-Thalappoly " ( Ritualistic Offerings on a plate , by children) , being conducted by the local group , is very satisfying to Bhagavathy ( Upadevi , Durga) . > The Turmeric powder being offered to Bhagavathy , has less purity . > Bhagavathy does not need " Kunkuma-archana " . > In the Devawom guest house , a " Karimkaalithara " ( platform for `Karimkaali –Deity ' ) is to be provided . > A particular person from the " Othikkan " (Traditional Poojari) family, is continuously showing disrespect to the position of Thanthri . Bhagavan is upset over this . If this is not stopped immediately , there will be dire consequences . > In the previous Devawom Cow-Shelter " Kaaveedu " , some Cows were killed . In order to avoid it's ill-effects in the new Cow-Shelter , " Kalasa Pooja " and other atonements to be performed for Bhagavathy . > Some

" KeezhShaantis " ( Assistant Poojaris) are not maintaining the necessary personal purity, required for Poojas . This is repeated many times . This will cause calamities in the " Thidappally "

( Platform in front of Sanctum Sanctorum) itself . > Some Temple Staff are not performing their duties properly and are shifting it's blame to others . They are going for other assignments that fetches better income . Also , there is serious infighting among the Staff . > Quoting verses from the " Kapilopadesa in Bhagavatham " , Justice Radhakrishna Menon raised doubts about the previous days revelations on rejection of Churidar . The Jyothishis re-confirmed with evidence that, Bhagavan does not like any amendment to the time-proven " Kshetra-Aachaaras " , in such unauthorized ways . > Change in Dress Code> ( History : On 27th July, Guruvayur Devaswom had relaxed the traditional Temple Dress code to allow Women Devotees

to wear Churidar inside the Temple . Earlier, women could wear only dresses such as sari, set-mundu, half-sari and skirt and blouse to the Temple. Even if women wore kurtas to the shrine, they had to wear a `mundu' over the pyjamas. However , soon after the Marxist led agitations seeking amendment of " Kshetra Aachaaras' ( Temple customs) , the Marxist Devaswom Board President announced his decision to allow Churidar inside the Temple. Later this matter was taken up in the Board meeting wherein the Thantri sated his objection . But, the Board flatly refused to revoke it's public announcement and ordered the Thantri to shut up.) > In the wake of Guruvayoorappan's objections to the changes in `Kshetra-Acharas ` , the recent change in Dress code was checked on the fifth day of `Devaprasnam' . During the `Acharyavaranakriya' , when a new cloth was brought , the Board Official instructed to cut it and fetch

a small piece out of it . When the cloth was cut , it became ` Gana-vastra' which according to Jyothisha is used for post-death rituals . Based on this `nimitham' ( divine syndrome) , Jyothishis analysed further to find out Bhagavan's will . And the following was revealed :> > Devaswam officials had issued a strict instruction to the Thanthri and all concerned to allow Churidar inside the Temple . > Thanthri was not allowed to raise his objection . Because of this , he could not seek Bhagavan's permission or conduct the Social Prayer necessary for seeking Bhagavan's consent for the change of ` Aachaara `. Therefore , instead of a natural change , Dewaswam's will was imposed on Thantri and Bhagavan . Next day, onwards Women started entering the Temple wearing Churidar which was unacceptable to Bhagavan . This resulted in the violent behavior of Temple-Elephants , Falling down of ` Thidambu'( Festival

Deity) , etc . If this non-obedience is continued, it will be harmful to the Person wearing the Churidar and their families . It could result in premature deaths . Even, it could even harm the human kind as a whole . > Guruvayoorappan wants His Bhaktas to wear simple traditional dress inside the Temple . Dresses like Churidar is `paradesi ` ( foreign) , which is unacceptable to Bhagavan. > > Devaswom Shelters for Old and Orphan Bhakthas > Bhagavan reiterated His desire to accommodate and protect His Old and Orphan Bhakthas in a Shelter which should be constructed by Devaswom . He pointed out that , according to His instructions earlier , daily `Prasada Ooottu `( Feeding of the Bhakthas) was started for 500 Bhakthas . Now it is provided daily for 5000 Bhakthas . Likewise , the Shelter will also be a success . While this was discussed , Bhagavatha Hamsam Malliyoor Shankaran Namboothiri (

Guruvayoorappan's legendary Bhakta) , entered the dais of Devaprasnam . Jyothishis found this as the divine omen of Bhagavan''s presence there and Bhaktavalsala's compassion for His Devotees .

> > In near future, the cloth of a person arriving for Darshan will be caught fire in the Temple . Also, in the Temple premises , one's wife will be killed by an Elephant or Cow . > Devaswom Board must consider `Krishnanaattam' (which is very dear to Bhagavan) , as Sacred . In last two years , during Vijayadasami , the 9 days long `Krishnanaattam' is not conducted by Devaswam Board . Devotees are offering it . Devaswam must conduct this with faith . > The " Koothambalam " (Auditorium for Temple Arts) is as important as the Temple . It must be cleaned daily and an Oil lamp to be lit there . > The continuing atonement for removing the previous Temple-

Acharyas Puliyannoor Family long back , to

be performed properly . It is not carried out decently now . > The Garland for Sreekovil , to be prepared in the Temple itself . > Those working inside the Temple , must use decent Language . > Efforts must be made to keep the Temple clean . > The Daily Ritual " Olavaayana " ( A Warrier temple-staff writes the Day's Income and Expenses on a Palm Leaf and Reads it out to Bhagavan before the closure of Temple , every night ) , has been stopped . Instead it is issued in writing to Him , as a token gesture . Bhagavan is furious at this Cheating . Right from tonight (03 Nov) , " Olavaayana " must be resumed . > The existing " Achaaraas'( Rituals and Practices of the Temple) can not be debated and amended by any ` Acharya-Sabha' ( Assembly of Vedic Acharyas and Experts) . They are to be adhered to as it is . > The `Guru-parambara' relationship in the Temple, has been

lost . > The `Thidambu' (

Festival Moorthy) has fallen down . For that, `prayachitha' atonement was not done properly . > Bhagavan is unhappy over the financial burden being imposed on His Bhakthas , by Devaswom Board's frequent increases in the material cost of Offerings . > `Prasadam' is being sold in the Shops outside the Temple. > There are defects in the Moorthy of Ganapathy , the Upadeva . Waste materials are stockpiled inside His temple . His displeasure will cause irritation to the Temple Elephants . Renovation of His temple needs to be done . > The Construction works inside the Temple premises , were carried out without Bhagavan's consent . There are defects in those works . In matters of `Vastu' , the opinions of more than one Expert need to be sought . > The relocated positions of Upadevas are not compatible with that of Flag staff . > There are reductions in the Poojas . > The Temple Pond has become

impure . Many deaths have occurred therein already . It is not maintained as Sacred . > Another Temple Pond having the Divine presence, was filled up totally . > The sacred Ashoka tree near the Bhagavathy Temple was cut down . It's atonement needs to be done . > The Coconuts once offered to Bhagavathy are offered to Her again and again to save cost and time . This is unacceptable to Her . > Sastha , the Upadeva is unhappy due to lapses in His rituals . > Although , the Temple Administrators and their Masters will try to block the proposed remedial measures , Bhagavan's grace will help to complete it . > Guruvayoorappan is unhappy over the lapses in the " Kshethra-

Acharas " ( Temple-Customs) . As a result, Bomb/Fire/Riots might cause mass deaths inside or just outside the Temple . > `Deva-Chaithanyam' ( aura) is intact on the Deity which is unique . > There will be sharp increase in

the inflow of Devotees and Temple revenue . > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have its fallout on the entire Nation . > Bhagavan's money is being misused by the concerned Officials . > Certain Staff are involving in `Adharmic' ( unrighteous) activities inside Temple premises . > Entry on Non-Hindus inside Temple , is unacceptable to Bhagavan . Devotees having firm faith in Deity worship and temple customs are the ones to enter the Temple . > The Thanthri ( Acharya of the temple) , is not allowed by the Devaswom Officials to perform his duties properly . Because of this , Bhagavan is unhappy and the Thantri is very sad . Thanthri's Instructions are being ignored by the Administrators . Therefore, he is not giving anymore instructions . > Temple Officials are misusing the Temple wealth . Both

the previous and present Officials are guilty of sinful activities . Some Staff are entering the Temple after consuming Liquor . > There is impurity in the `Nivedaya- items' being offered to Bhagavan . > Bhagvan's favorite , Milk and Plantain Nivedyam have been stopped . > In the Temple's Gokulam , Bhagavan;'s Cows are not looked after properly . Theft and even killing of Cows have occurred . `Go-

Sapa' (Curse of Cows) exists . > Within a few months , one Temple Elephant will die . > Please forward this message to as many Bhakthas as possible . Let everyone pray Sree Guruvayoorappan .> Om Namo Narayanaya !!! Please protect us , O Guruvayoor Bhagavan !!!!> > Krishnadaya . > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

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