[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Devaprasnam - END of arguments.

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhakthas,

 

Allegations and personal name calling makes Moderator job very difficult in a

group meant only for Bhakthi.

 

We never like to edit, delete or reject any messages from any one of

you. But unfortunately that is not the case always. Sometimes we all forget the

fact that this forum is meant ONLY for Bhakthi.

 

Respecting each and everyone is an integral part of that Bhakthi,

every member of this group is here because of their Bhakthi for

Guruvayoorappan Krishna. Who are we to judge HIS dear Bhaktas?

 

So, please consider everyone in this group as Bhagavan's own children for God's

sake - literally.

 

As Shri.KVG rightly said, difference of opinion is a fact of human

life. But expressing it in a more careful way would be more human.

 

And PLEASE stop allegations, name calling & twisting truth to fit political

agendas from both sides. We are NOT here for any of that, but only for pure

bhakti of Krishna.

 

Let us STOP the chain of arguments and move on to the real subject -

Bhakthi and Guruvayoor.

 

Let us move on.

 

I appreciate and thank Krishnadaya for his patience to type & update

us on the Devaprasnam that many of us would not have not read

otherwise. Thank you for your service to our group.

 

May Guruvayoorapan show all of us the right path always.

 

Om Namo Narayanaya:

Sunil.

 

 

guruvayur , Athena Wala <athenawala wrote:

>

> Dear Sriman Gopalakrishnan;

>

> Jai Sri Krishna.

>

> We are indeed fortunate to have a member with your maturity of

thought within our membership. I agree with you, we must always use

and choose our words carefully in public forums of this nature. Some

humility and diplomacy always goes a long way in making our point

heard in a rational manner instead of open uninhibited censuring of

any persons ideas and thoughts.

>

> Thanks a lot for your insight and credible efforts at bringing

this discussion into a rational and unbiased perspective.

>

> Live and let live....

>

> Narasimhan Nagan

>

> " K.V Gopalakrishna " <gopalakrishna.kv wrote:

> Dear all,

> Radhe Krishna!

>

> It is painful to see different opinions and criticisms about the

Deva Prasnam. Every Prasnam is full of probabilities and the only

way to ascertain whether our actions are right or wrong is to go

through a procedure like that with implicit faith in it.

Krishnadaya Rajeev has taken immense pains to appraise us of the

findings and we should be thankful to him for all the troubles he has

taken. Each person has to have his or her opinion about any of

thesae activities, but the Devaswom authorities have to maintain a

level of discipline in the temple. And there is no other way of

finding out, other than the prasnam. I may have my own opinion about

all such activities, but I keep them to myself and not enter into

controversies. We visit the temple once in a way and we should stick

to the discipline which the authorities have decided upon. There is

no point in questioning them, as it is not possible for the temple

authorities to ask each person and allow him to do

> whatever he/she wants it in each individual's way.

>

> The Lord is common to all. All our actions are guided by His will,

including te Deva-prasnam. Let us therefore, take all these with

equanimity. Let us have devotion to the Lord. That is more

important. A firm believer in Him can see Him in his/her own mind's

eye, and need not even go to the temple to pray, on reaching such

maturity of thinking and purity of mind.. Such individuals can

visualise the God in him/her and pray to Him, stting at one's own

place. But once we enter the premises of the temple, we should

adhere to the rules, and not question them.

>

> My request to the group is to refrain from personal criticisms and

take things with maturity of thinking.

>

> Regards

> KVG.

>

>

>

>

> GANAPATHY RAMAN wrote: Dear Krishna daya or dasa,

>

> I am not a skeptic Hindu as you imagine as you hv no idea abt me

even after long association but I am a practical man and not unduly

give credence to certain things which I feel not to my liking.This is

not to digress your belief or anybody's but only my views.It is ok if

you hv a different set of convictions and your clarifications though

look nice can't be vouchsafed.Anyway it is always a pleasure to hv

argument with you as many things come out of your bag though you can't

expect all to accept your views.Whoever not agreeing your views you

say are communists or atheists and such a notion must hv stemmed out

of your

> personal experience.So you must change such notions.I say this as

your well wisher.Sometimes your blind faith take you to different mode

of thinking which is not palatable.You are my good friend and always I

wish the same.As you used to say we shall agree to disagree on things

which we differ.Anyway for your happiness I appreciate your

clarifications.I don't hv any ill will against you and just expressed

my thoughts which you may not like but never dub all people who are

not agreeing with your views as communists or anti Hindus.Such mind

set up is really pathetic and shows some type of mental aberration.God

Bless.

>

>

> agraman.

>

> krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:

> Krishna , Guruvayoorappa . Dear Bhakthas ,

> I do agree that many skeptic Hindus have the same views given

below by Sri.Ganapathy Ramanji . Let me clarify as follows :

>

> " Devaprasnam " a Sacred Ritual

> I still remember one event in my Childhood . My Father who was a

member of the Temple-Committee just returned after meeting Sree

,Cheppad Kaimal , a Vedic Jyothishi . It was to invite him for a

" Devaprasnam " to be conducted in the Temple . Father told us that ,

the Jyothishi had noted various details such as , the exact time of

their arrival , what they said first , " nimithams " ( symptoms in

place) , etc . We all were seeing `Devaprasnam' the first time and

therefore all these were new to us .

> After conducting necessary rituals to invoke the Deity ,

`Devaprasnam' started . The revelations of the Deity in the

" Devaprasnam " stunned every one . It revealed hitherto unknown

information such as immoral activities inside the Temple by the

Convener and his Female assistant , Misconducts by the Priest ,

Routine urination inside the Temple by an old Neighbour , etc, etc .

It even found out the exact address of our original Family-temple

about 150 Km away , which no one knew till then .

> As revealed by the Deity in the `Devaprasnam' , the total

structure of the Temple-set up changed soon . Today , it is one of the

main Temples of our area and it's present Thanthri is Kantararu

Rajeevararu ( Sabarimala-Thanthri ) .

> After the above events , I got opportunities to involve with some

other `Devaprasnams' as well , and what I have learnt from it ,

convinced me about the reliability of `Devaprasnam ` . We don't have

any other system in place to know the will of the Deity .

> I remember one more event . About 20 years back , in Sabarimala ,

a major Construction was proposed but it was rejected in the

" Devaprasnam " . It was revealed that , if proceeded the modification

will cause death. ( Cheppad Kaimal was one Jyothishi) . However, then

Board and it's Contractor ignored it and proceeded to complete the

works . Within next 3 months , the Contractor became bankrupt and

committed suicide . Later , the Board President ( a leading

Politician) too lost his post and died miserably .

>

> Guruvayoor Devaprasnam

> The Guruvayoor Devaprasnam is conducted after 17 years . Usually

it is conducted after every 12 years, to know the condition of

" Äshtabandham " and other status . However , the recommendations of

the previous `Devaprasnam' had not been implemented fully and

therefore the Board was postponing it . Recently , several accidents

happened in Guruvayoor . This include frequent violent behavior of

Temple Elephants , Falling down of " Thidambu " (Festival Deity) from

Elephant's top , Several Deaths inside the Temple Pond and inside the

Temple premises , Quarrels , Thefts, etc, etc . The Guruvayoor

Devaswom Board is composed of Government Nominees , Administrator (

Govt. Employee) and Traditional Members like Samoothiri Raja ,

Thanthri , one representative of Traditional Temple Staff , etc . The

Government Nominees are Marxists who have no faith in God . They are

interested only in looting the Temple funds and undermining it's

spirituality . For this , they appointed many of

> their atheistic Comrades as Temple staff. They are the ones who

corrupted the other staff as well . Even Immoral activities and

Alcohol-consumption became frequent in the Temple .

>

> Eminent Jyothishis Conducted the Guruavayoor Devaprasnam .

> Irinjalakkuda Padmanabha Sharma was the lead `Jyothishi ' and he

was assisted by Paravoor Sreedharan Thanthri, Ravunni Panicker,

Nagilassery Raghavan Nair, Cherode Narayana Panicker, Manappuzha Raman

Namboothiri, Soman Panicker, Jayaraj Panicker and Prasanth Menon .

They are presently the most reputed Vedic Jyothishis in Kerala .

Majority of them are qualified Thanthris as well .

> 4. The Best Devaprasnam in Recent Times

> The `Devaprasnam' was started only after performing necessary

Vedic rituals like (81) days long Bhagavathy Seva , Ganapathy Homam ,

Maha-Mrithunjaya Homam , etc . The Deity of Guruvayoorappan was duly

invoked by the Thanthri prior to starting the " Devaprasnam " .

> It was predicted on the first day that there would be deaths in

the Temple during the " Devaprasnam " . It proved correct , as two

deaths and one attempted suicide took place .

> No commercial aspect is attributed to this " Devaprasnam " . They

just revealed Bhagavan's will as it is without any fear or favor . It

takes to task every one including the Board , Thantri, Poojaris, Staff

, etc , etc . No one was spared . It is a sin to doubt the integrity

of these `Sattvic-Karma Yogis' . May Guruvayoorappan shower His

choicest blessings on these Acharyas !!!.

> Bhagavan has revealed that , He doesn't want Churidar and such

foreign dresses inside the Temple . He wants no change on the

" Kshethra-Acharas " .

> I fully agree with the revelations . Most Women are not wearing

the Churidar in a decent way in side the Temple . The use of Shawl

is out of fashion ; and consequently they appear to be exposed .

When we see a Woman in traditional dress inside the Temple , she

reminds us of Bhagavathy . Let the sacred system continue as it is .

> A Personal Note :

> My Bhakthy-Yoga is founded on what I learnt from my Parents ,

Elders and the Acharyas with whom I have associated . As a `Padasevak'

of Bhagavan Krishna , I just act according to His will .

> Bhagavan Sree Krishna says in Bhagavatam 11.7.23 " Although I,

the Supreme Lord can never be captured by ordinary sense perception ,

those situated in human life may use their intelligence and other

faculties of perception to directly search for Me through both

apparent and indirectly ascertained symptoms " .

> Om Namo narayanaya !!!

>

--\

------

> guruvayur , GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62@> wrote:

> >

> > I thought Krishnadaya is a person with good knowledge.However

after accepting what some astrologers said and accepting the same as

said in Vedas he has gone away from tangent and exhibited his

ignorance abt the wishes of Sri

> > Guruvayurappan.Really pathetic to succumb to such obnoxious

findings of the astrologers in the form of Devaprasnam and one who

does not accept the same to be treated as atheist or marxist.I feel

sorry for a knowledgeable person like

> > Krishnadaya.How on earth he finds that the same are the wishes of Sri

> > Guruvayurappan.Many factors like cleanliness,renovation,reshaping

of the existing things can be known to all and the Board has to do it

with its enormous funds and there is no necessity to invoke Lord for

making the temple a really spiritual abode.For that purpose there is

no necessity for Devaprasnam for a number of days and debates spending

enormous amount and with that all the things could hv been

rectified.It is really pitiable that Krishnadaya has become a victim

for such things and dubbing people who say anything against

ascommunists.I think he is living in the vedic age.Sorry for for my

harsh comments but be practical Krishnadaya.In what way it affects you

whether a lady wears churidar instead of saree etc .I hpe you are not

running any textile shop near the temple.Bhagawan has never said

anything.Why you find fault with that?For your info I don't hv any

churidar or other shop.Really sorry abt your anxiety which is nothing

but a matter for pity.This is not to

> > remove your faith which is not my intention but just to keep you

informed about the changing times and the necessity for that as change

is the order of the day and devotees

> > from many States can't be expected to wear sarees etc.and

Guruvayurappan is not confined Deity only to those of Kerala.All

temples everywhere change the customs according to times and Adi

Sankara too never said that only those things shuld be followed.It is

all the things stemmed out of the peoles's mind who hv got their own

interest uppermost.Regarding other things you hv noted I don't hv the

patience to read and so not making any comments.But don't drag the

intrepretations of astrologers whatever be their qualifications as the

wish of Guruvayurappan as they themselves won't be sure except by

intrepreting some planetary positions which hv got nothing to to do

with the Cosmic Power that is

> > Sri Guruvayurappan.Anyway I appreciate your interest on the

subject which is not worthwhile to spend time.

> >

> >

> > krishnadaya krishnadaya@ wrote:

> > Krishna, Guruvayoorappa ! , Dear Bhakthas ,

> > The Eight day long Guruvayoor " Ashtmangala Devaprasnam " was

successfully completed yesterday ( 07 Nov. ) .

> > What was performed yesterday was verifying Guruvayoorappan's will

on the proposed remedial measures . As solution to each of the

discovered shortcomings , an offering was proposed with a prayer to

the concerned Devatha , and verified His/Her acceptance or rejection,

through the analysis of " Rasi " .

> > 1. At first , praying Guruvayoorappan , it was proposed to submit

at His Sopanam, " Bhadradeepam " in Silver pot with " Suvarnakshatha "

inside it , Palpayasam worth Rs.1001, " Thrikkaivenna " , " Thrumudimala "

, Milk, and Sugar . These will be submitted by the Temple's Ooralan ,

Othikkanmar , Keezh-Shaanthis, and Other traditional Staff . And after

submitting it they all will admit their mistakes to Bhagavan ,

apologize to Him , and prostrate at His feet , seeking Bhagavan's

forgiveness . In the " Rasi " , " Vyazham " ( Guru) was found in the 9th

house . This auspicious revelation confirmed that , Guruvayoorappan is

satisfied with the proposed Offerings and Remedial Measures .

> > 2. In the Mammiyoor Temple , " Rudradhara " & " Pinvilakku " to Siva,

" Palpayasam " to Vishnu , and relevant offerings to the other Devathas

in Mammiyoor and to the Deities in associated Temples , other nearby

Temples, Kannur Idakkad Temple, and Irinjalakkuda Koodal Manikyam

Temple , were proposed . It was found to be acceptable to Them .

> > Remedial Measures

> > The following Remedial measures were proposed and found to be

acceptable to Bhagavan and the Upadevathas :

> > 1. The Defective Golden Flag Pole shall be replaces with a New one

, within next (13) months .

> > 2. In the Devawom Guest house compound , a " Valkannadi " ( Mirror

Image) to be consecrated on the " Karimkali Thara " ( Platform for

Karimkali Deity) . And yearly Pooja to be offered there after laying

Padmam ( lotus) .

> > 3. On the Ekadasi day , the procession to the East should halt at

it's previous end point " Theeyyar Ambalam " , offer salutations there

before proceeding to the Parthasarathy Temple for " Irakkiyezhunnallathu " .

> > 4. To eliminate the " Sarpa-Dosham " ( ill-effects caused by

Serpents) , a golden Sepent-image , and " Puttum " shall be submitted at

" Pambumekkavu Mana " ( Temple-Abode of Serpents) .

> > 5. Symbolic Offering of Elephant to be performed .

> > 6. To eliminate the ill- effects for the misdeeds of all those

associated with the Temple , Devaswom board should conduct every year,

" Maha-Sudarshana Homam " ( 96,000 chants) , " Thila-havanam " (1,00,000

chants) , " Sukrutha-Homam " and 12 days long " Ganapthy-Homams " . Also ,

" Kalkachikichuttu " ( with 108 " Ashtothara shatanamam " ) and

" Vilichucholli-prayachittham " will be carried out . As a remedy for

various types of Curses , " Murahomam " will be performed every year .

Also " Maha-Mrithunjaya Homam " and " Bhagavathy Seva " shall be performed

every year .

> > 7. Every year , a " Sukrutha-Homam " shall be performed with 24, 000

chants of Gayathri-Manthra , to increase the " Sukrutha " of Temple .

> > 8. Thanthri , himself shall decide and perform his " Prayachittham "

( atonement) to Bhagavan .

> > 9. Any money offered on the " Thrippadi " ( step to Sreekovil) ,

belongs to Bhagavan .

> > 10. As an atonement of Go-sapa ( Curse of Cows) it was first

proposed to offer a Cow to Bhagavathy . But , it was not found

sufficient . So , a golden image of Cow will be offered to Bhagavathy .

> > Note :

> >

> > It was re-confirmed that , Bhagavan does not accept any amendment

to the existing " Kshetra-Acharas " .

> > Before , the conclusion of Devaprasnam two Members of the Devaswom

Managing Committee raised objections . Mr. M.M.Vasudevan alleged that

, some of the findings and remedial measures revealed in the

Devaprasnam will pull us to 200 years back just for the sake of

Acharas . Prof. T.R. Harry stated that , the Girl-students in his

college had asked him whether Churidar could be permitted in side the

Temple .

> > The Lead Jyothishi , Padmanabha Sharma calmly pointed out that ,

the Dress Codes of Educational institutions are not suitable for

Temple . While coming to the Temple for Darshan , all Bhakthas should

follow the Dress Code that is prescribed for the Temple . He

reiterated that , Guruvayoorappan rejects all sorts of changes to the

time-proven " Kshetra-Acharas " . Also , he invited all skeptics to come

to the dais to have a debate on the basis of Vedic Injunctions .

> > The above said , two Members ( who are Marxist Nominees in the Board) started yelling " Times have progressed . Churidar must

be allowed inside the Temple " .

> > This infuriated the Bhakthas present there . They declared in one

voice " What matters is Guruvayoorappan's will alone . And not the

wishes of Others . We do not need Bhagavan-Haters in Guruvayoor Temple

, anymore " .

> > As the situation became vociferous , and the mentioned Atheists

were looking for an escape route , Padmanabha Sharma , the Lead

Jyothishi pacified the Bhakthas , assuring them that Guruvayoorappan's

will shall prevail .

> > Findings ( 31 Oct. -- 06 Nov. ) .

> > Summary

> >

> > Bhagavan is upset over the violation of " Kshethra Acharas " ,

Desecration of Temple , Immoral activities inside the Temple , etc by

God-haters . Possible, Bomb/Fire/Riot might cause mass killing in or

outside the Temple .

> > Thanthri is Bhagavan's Representative . What he says is to be

accepted by everyone .

> > Golden Flag Pole is defective . Temple- Elephants may pull it down .

> > No entry to Non-Hindus . Only those having full faith in Deity

worship and Kshethra-Acharas , shall enter the Temple.

> > No change in the Temple's Dress Code . Churidar is unacceptable .

It has already caused violence by Elephants . It's continuation will

cause death and destruction to all responsible for it .

> > Upadeva Ganesha's Moorthy and Temple are defective . Renovation ,

required for His Temple .

> > Bhgagavan's Cows were stolen and killed . Serious Go-Shapa will

cause calamities .

> > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the

whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have

its fallout on the entire Nation .

> > Deratiled Findings

> > 1. Bhagavan stressed the need to rectify certain structural

defects found in the golden Flag Pole of the Temple . It's foundation

is damaged due to the attack of insects . Flag Pole is the abode of

Bhagavan's vehicle Garuda . It has been dislocated and tilted . If one

measures from it's footing to " veeraknadam " (upper portion) , the

dislocation can be found out . if the defective Flag Pole is not

replaced with a new one , the present Flag Pole will be pulled down by

Temple Elephants .

> > 2. Bhagavan wants the Temple to set up Facilities for the study of

Sanskrit and Vedas . The Vedas are very important to Guruvayoor Temple

.. Necessary Facilities should be provided for higher education of

Sanskrit .

> > 3. Ordinary Bhaktas should not face any hurdle in worshipping

Bhagavan due to restrictions made in the name of VIP visits . At

present , such difficulties exist and certain Temple staff are

behaving rudely with the Bhkthas . This is absolutely unacceptable .

Bhagavan is always pleased by the Bhakthy of Common man .

> > 4. Bhagavan does not want , more than one `Udayasthamana Pooja' in

a day .

> > 5. The Building in side the Temple premises can be taller than the

Temple . But it's floor level should be lower than that of Temple . On

such floor , any number of storeys can be constructed . This has no

relation with the height of Flag Pole . Considering the roads around

the Temple as boundary limits, this condition should be adhered to .

> > 6. Materials once used for " Thulabharam " can be used again .

However, the decayed materials should not be used .

> > 7. The water from the " Manikkinar " ( Temple's well ) , can be used

for Thulabharam .

> > 8. The future of Bhagavan's presence in Guruvayoor Temple is

bright . The present unpleasant issues can be resolved by

" Prayrachitham " (Atonement rituals) . These remedial measures must be

completed within one year .

> > ( Note - : Some Devotees brought to the Jyothishis' attention ,

criticisms in the media against the Jyothishis . But the Jyothishis

preferred not to discuss it with Bhagavan . They stated " This

Devaprasnam is being conducted strictly according to the Scriptural

Injunctions and associated Vedic Shaastras . We are ready to answer

any doubts on this . In stead of that , if some one wants to arrest us

, we are helpless . )

> >

> > The " Suvarna-Dwajam " ( Golden Flag Pole ) is not vertical and it

is in damaged condition . It's present position too is not correct .

This may cause Serious Dangers .

> > Thanthri ( Temple-Acharya ) is not issuing necessary instructions

on time. He feels that, what he says will upset the concerned

Authorities ; especially since , what he told in the past were ignored

totally . Bhagavan is furious over this situation .

> > Some Devotees pointed out that , Udayastamana Pooja is performed

for a single person only ; And therefore is it necessary to close and

open the Sreekovil-Door for it ? .

> > Bhagavan replied that , Poojas are not for one Person only . More

Udayasthamana Poojas and Thanthric rites are for increasing the `Deva

çhaithanyam' (aura) .

> > The " Pillaru-Thalappoly " ( Ritualistic Offerings on a plate , by

children) , being conducted by the local group , is very satisfying to

Bhagavathy ( Upadevi , Durga) .

> > The Turmeric powder being offered to Bhagavathy , has less purity .

> > Bhagavathy does not need " Kunkuma-archana " .

> > In the Devawom guest house , a " Karimkaalithara " ( platform for

`Karimkaali –Deity ' ) is to be provided .

> > A particular person from the " Othikkan " (Traditional Poojari)

family, is continuously showing disrespect to the position of Thanthri

.. Bhagavan is upset over this . If this is not stopped immediately ,

there will be dire consequences .

> > In the previous Devawom Cow-Shelter " Kaaveedu " , some Cows were

killed . In order to avoid it's ill-effects in the new Cow-Shelter ,

" Kalasa Pooja " and other atonements to be performed for Bhagavathy .

> > Some " KeezhShaantis " ( Assistant Poojaris) are not maintaining the

necessary personal purity, required for Poojas . This is repeated many

times . This will cause calamities in the " Thidappally " ( Platform in

front of Sanctum Sanctorum) itself .

> > Some Temple Staff are not performing their duties properly and are

shifting it's blame to others . They are going for other assignments

that fetches better income . Also , there is serious infighting among

the Staff .

> > Quoting verses from the " Kapilopadesa in Bhagavatham " , Justice

Radhakrishna Menon raised doubts about the previous days revelations

on rejection of Churidar . The Jyothishis re-confirmed with evidence

that, Bhagavan does not like any amendment to the time-proven

" Kshetra-Aachaaras " , in such unauthorized ways .

> > Change in Dress Code

> > ( History : On 27th July, Guruvayur Devaswom had relaxed the

traditional Temple Dress code to allow Women Devotees to wear Churidar

inside the Temple . Earlier, women could wear only dresses such as

sari, set-mundu, half-sari and skirt and blouse to the Temple. Even if

women wore kurtas to the shrine, they had to wear a `mundu' over the

pyjamas. However , soon after the Marxist led agitations seeking

amendment of " Kshetra Aachaaras' ( Temple customs) , the Marxist

Devaswom Board President announced his decision to allow Churidar

inside the Temple. Later this matter was taken up in the Board meeting

wherein the Thantri sated his objection . But, the Board flatly

refused to revoke it's public announcement and ordered the Thantri to

shut up.)

> > In the wake of Guruvayoorappan's objections to the changes in

`Kshetra-Acharas ` , the recent change in Dress code was checked on

the fifth day of `Devaprasnam' . During the `Acharyavaranakriya' ,

when a new cloth was brought , the Board Official instructed to cut it

and fetch a small piece out of it . When the cloth was cut , it became

` Gana-vastra' which according to Jyothisha is used for post-death

rituals . Based on this `nimitham' ( divine syndrome) , Jyothishis

analysed further to find out Bhagavan's will . And the following was

revealed :

> >

> > Devaswam officials had issued a strict instruction to the Thanthri

and all concerned to allow Churidar inside the Temple .

> > Thanthri was not allowed to raise his objection . Because of this

, he could not seek Bhagavan's permission or conduct the Social Prayer

necessary for seeking Bhagavan's consent for the change of ` Aachaara

`. Therefore , instead of a natural change , Dewaswam's will was

imposed on Thantri and Bhagavan . Next day, onwards Women started

entering the Temple wearing Churidar which was unacceptable to

Bhagavan . This resulted in the violent behavior of Temple-Elephants ,

Falling down of ` Thidambu'( Festival Deity) , etc . If this

non-obedience is continued, it will be harmful to the Person wearing

the Churidar and their families . It could result in premature deaths

.. Even, it could even harm the human kind as a whole .

> > Guruvayoorappan wants His Bhaktas to wear simple traditional dress

inside the Temple . Dresses like Churidar is `paradesi ` ( foreign) ,

which is unacceptable to Bhagavan.

> >

> > Devaswom Shelters for Old and Orphan Bhakthas

> > Bhagavan reiterated His desire to accommodate and protect His Old

and Orphan Bhakthas in a Shelter which should be constructed by

Devaswom . He pointed out that , according to His instructions earlier

, daily `Prasada Ooottu `( Feeding of the Bhakthas) was started for

500 Bhakthas . Now it is provided daily for 5000 Bhakthas . Likewise ,

the Shelter will also be a success . While this was discussed ,

Bhagavatha Hamsam Malliyoor Shankaran Namboothiri ( Guruvayoorappan's

legendary Bhakta) , entered the dais of Devaprasnam . Jyothishis found

this as the divine omen of Bhagavan''s presence there and

Bhaktavalsala's compassion for His Devotees .

> >

> > In near future, the cloth of a person arriving for Darshan will be

caught fire in the Temple . Also, in the Temple premises , one's wife

will be killed by an Elephant or Cow .

> > Devaswom Board must consider `Krishnanaattam' (which is very dear

to Bhagavan) , as Sacred . In last two years , during Vijayadasami ,

the 9 days long `Krishnanaattam' is not conducted by Devaswam Board .

Devotees are offering it . Devaswam must conduct this with faith .

> > The " Koothambalam " (Auditorium for Temple Arts) is as important as

the Temple . It must be cleaned daily and an Oil lamp to be lit there .

> > The continuing atonement for removing the previous Temple-Acharyas

Puliyannoor Family long back , to be performed properly . It is not

carried out decently now .

> > The Garland for Sreekovil , to be prepared in the Temple itself .

> > Those working inside the Temple , must use decent Language .

> > Efforts must be made to keep the Temple clean .

> > The Daily Ritual " Olavaayana " ( A Warrier temple-staff writes

the Day's Income and Expenses on a Palm Leaf and Reads it out to

Bhagavan before the closure of Temple , every night ) , has been

stopped . Instead it is issued in writing to Him , as a token gesture

.. Bhagavan is furious at this Cheating . Right from tonight (03 Nov) ,

" Olavaayana " must be resumed .

> > The existing " Achaaraas'( Rituals and Practices of the Temple) can

not be debated and amended by any ` Acharya-Sabha' ( Assembly of Vedic

Acharyas and Experts) . They are to be adhered to as it is .

> > The `Guru-parambara' relationship in the Temple, has been lost .

> > The `Thidambu' ( Festival Moorthy) has fallen down . For that,

`prayachitha' atonement was not done properly .

> > Bhagavan is unhappy over the financial burden being imposed on His

Bhakthas , by Devaswom Board's frequent increases in the material cost

of Offerings .

> > `Prasadam' is being sold in the Shops outside the Temple.

> > There are defects in the Moorthy of Ganapathy , the Upadeva .

Waste materials are stockpiled inside His temple . His displeasure

will cause irritation to the Temple Elephants . Renovation of His

temple needs to be done .

> > The Construction works inside the Temple premises , were carried

out without Bhagavan's consent . There are defects in those works . In

matters of `Vastu' , the opinions of more than one Expert need to be

sought .

> > The relocated positions of Upadevas are not compatible with that

of Flag staff .

> > There are reductions in the Poojas .

> > The Temple Pond has become impure . Many deaths have occurred

therein already . It is not maintained as Sacred .

> > Another Temple Pond having the Divine presence, was filled up

totally .

> > The sacred Ashoka tree near the Bhagavathy Temple was cut down .

It's atonement needs to be done .

> > The Coconuts once offered to Bhagavathy are offered to Her again

and again to save cost and time . This is unacceptable to Her .

> > Sastha , the Upadeva is unhappy due to lapses in His rituals .

> > Although , the Temple Administrators and their Masters will try to

block the proposed remedial measures , Bhagavan's grace will help to

complete it .

> > Guruvayoorappan is unhappy over the lapses in the "

Kshethra-Acharas " ( Temple-Customs) . As a result, Bomb/Fire/Riots

might cause mass deaths inside or just outside the Temple .

> > `Deva-Chaithanyam' ( aura) is intact on the Deity which is unique .

> > There will be sharp increase in the inflow of Devotees and Temple

revenue .

> > Guruvayoor Temple should be treated as an important Shrine in the

whole Country and any adverse thing happening to the Temple would have

its fallout on the entire Nation .

> > Bhagavan's money is being misused by the concerned Officials .

> > Certain Staff are involving in `Adharmic' ( unrighteous)

activities inside Temple premises .

> > Entry on Non-Hindus inside Temple , is unacceptable to Bhagavan .

Devotees having firm faith in Deity worship and temple customs are the

ones to enter the Temple .

> > The Thanthri ( Acharya of the temple) , is not allowed by the

Devaswom Officials to perform his duties properly . Because of this ,

Bhagavan is unhappy and the Thantri is very sad . Thanthri's

Instructions are being ignored by the Administrators . Therefore, he

is not giving anymore instructions .

> > Temple Officials are misusing the Temple wealth . Both the

previous and present Officials are guilty of sinful activities . Some

Staff are entering the Temple after consuming Liquor .

> > There is impurity in the `Nivedaya- items' being offered to

Bhagavan .

> > Bhagvan's favorite , Milk and Plantain Nivedyam have been stopped .

> > In the Temple's Gokulam , Bhagavan;'s Cows are not looked after

properly . Theft and even killing of Cows have occurred . `Go-Sapa'

(Curse of Cows) exists .

> > Within a few months , one Temple Elephant will die .

> > Please forward this message to as many Bhakthas as possible . Let

everyone pray Sree Guruvayoorappan .

> > Om Namo Narayanaya !!! Please protect us , O Guruvayoor Bhagavan !!!!

> >

> > Krishnadaya .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

>

> Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to

know how.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>