[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] PRAJAPATHI

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HARI AUM

 

Thanks a lot Shree Radhakrishnanji. The vastness of

our scriptures is really mind boggling.

 

Regards

 

Balagopal

NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA

 

--- " P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN " <pallassanas wrote:

 

>

> " OM NAMO BHAGAVATHE VASUDEVAYA "

>

> Friends,

>

> I saw lot of commotions made regarding

> " PRAJAPATHY " . Literal meaning

> of PRAJAPATHY is Brahma, the LORD OF CREATION.

>

> PRAJAPATHIS ARE 10 in numbers :-

>

> They are (1) Mareechi (2) Athri (3) Angirasa (4)

> Pulasthya (5) Pulaha

> (6) Krathu (7) Prachethas

>

> (8) Vasishta (9) Bhrugu (10) Narada [Manu 1-34}

>

> According to Brahadaranyaka Upanishad Verse 2. His

> Praja is three fold

> : Asuras, Manushas and Devas.

>

> On the Asuras he enjoins " BE KIND TO ALL', On

> Manushas " be charitable'

> and on Devas practise " self control "

>

> However, what I saw in the WEB is given below :

>

> QUOTE :

>

> "

>

> Prajapathy

>

>

>

> If Krishna is a far cry from the superlative person

> of Jesus, there is

> another person in the Rig Veda who fits the

> comparison most. As there

> are 73 books in the Holy Bible, there are 10 books

> in the Rigveda. Ten

> mandalams. First nine mandalams refers to a God and

> presents methods of

> worship as rituals. In the tenth mandalam, besides

> this Lord Almighty,

> there is the mention about a man. The first born and

> only born son of

> the God. His name is `Prajapathy'. Prajapathy, the

> son of the

> God comes to this world at the appropriate time.

> After coming to this

> world he travels around advising mankind, what is

> sin and what is not

> sin; what is to be done and what is not to be done;

> what is wrong and

> what is right. To those human beings, who accept his

> advises and obey

> his orders, he offers prosperity and peace in this

> worldly life and

> salvation at the time of their death. And being the

> completion of his

> venture to redeem mankind from sin, he gets

> sacrificed at the end his

> specified period on earth.

>

> In verse 7 chapter 90 of the 10th book of the

> Rigveda, the sacrifice of

> Prajapathy the Son of God, is well explained.

>

> `At the time of sacrifice, the son of God will be

> tightly tied to a

> wooden sacrificial post using iron nails by hands

> and legs, he will

> bleed to death and on the third day he will regain

> his life in a

> resurrection. " Evidently none of the avatars meets

> this

> description. Nor are they expecting another

> incarnation, which will fit

> the description and attributes. The attributes of

> Prajapathy are given

> in the Rigveda and as in Sathapadha Brahmana, a

> supplement to Yajurveda.

> The next avatar is Kalki who is simply the

> destroyer. Let us start from

> the beginning:

>

> sa paryaghachachukrama virunamsnaviram shudhhama

> papavittham

> kavirmanishi :

> paribhur swayambhur yadhatha ityadhorthan

> viyadhadhacha chiviyaha

> samabhyaha "

>

> A self realized person visualizes that supreme

> personality of God head

> as

> (1) paryagathaha – omnipresent

> (2) Shukramaha – omnipotent

> (3) akayamaha – having no phenomenal body

> (4) avranamaha – in this person there are no

> imperfections that of

> gross physical body

> (5) Asnaviramaha – without any vein (his actions do

> not depend upon

> the viens for emulation of blood to the limbs of his

> body which is

> perfect on his own occord, in other words no blood

> in his veins)

> (6) shukthamaha – he is pure, perfect, no impurity

> (7) appapavidhham – he is beyond any mundanity as

> maya never can

> have any hold ( dark ness can't enter him) (8)

> kavihi – he

> becomes the efficient cause for the creation and

> preservation of the

> universe and therefore he is omniscient

> (9) manishihi – he is the first philosopher who

> destroys the

> darkness of the heart of the soul with his spiritual

> light (10)

> paribhuhu – controller of everything

> (11) swayambhuhu – self-existent, from the

> beginning, he is not of

> the father and mother by flesh

> -isha upanishad

>

>

> .In the beginning God was there and he was a spirit.

> (Ithereya Upanishad:1/1/1)

>

> Kathopanishad says:

> " Naiva vaacha na manasaa

> Praapthum shakyo na chakshusha

> Astheethi bruvathonyyathra

> Kadam thadupalabhyathe "

> The Holy Spirit of the God cannot be reached with

> the eyes, mind or

> words. Only those who believe that He exists and

> says so, will be

> reaching Him.

> (Katham 6:12)

>

> " Sa eekshatheeme nu loka

> Lokaa Paalaanusruja ithi

> Sodbhaaya eva purusham

> Samudruthya moorchayaayt "

> After the creation of the Firmament, Earth and

> Waters, the Holy Spirit

> of the God thought like this. " I have created all

> the Worlds. For

> them I should create a protector (Savior). With this

> intention, the Holy

> Spirit created a Person from His own self.

> (Ithareyopanishad 1. 1:3)

>

> " Hiranyagarbha: samavarthaagre

> Bhuuthasya jaatha: pathireka aaseeth

> Sadaadhaara Prudhwivim dyaamuthemam

> Kasmai devaaya havisha vidhemam. "

> In the beginning, God and his supreme spirit alone

> existed. From the

> supreme Spirit of the God proceeded Hiranya Garbha,

> alias Prajapathy,

> the first born of the God in the form of light. As

> soon as born, he

> became the savior of all the worlds.

> RgVeda X:121:1

>

> " Thasmaad virraada jaayatha

> viraajo adhi purusha:

> Sjaatho athyarichyatha

> Paschaad bhoomimadhopura: "

> From that male the universe came into being. From

> that body of the

> universe came the omnipresent Person. That Person

> thus became manifest,

> adopted various forms and character and created the

> earth and other

> planets along with the creatures to live in them.

> (Rigveda X:90:5)

>

> " Purusha evedam sarvam

> Yadbhutham yachabhavyam

> Uthaamruthathwasya esaana

> Ya daannenathirohathi "

> This man, the first born of the God is all that was,

> all that is and all

> that has to be. And he comes to this world to give

> recompense to

> everybody as per his deeds.

> (Rigveda X:90:2)

>

> " Tham yajnam barhishi proukshan

> Purusham jaathamagratha

> Thena deva ayajantha

> Sadhya rushayaschaye "

> This man, the first born of the God, was tied to a

> wooden sacrificial

> post and the gods and the Kings along the seers

> performed the sacrifice

>

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Ohm Narayanaya Namah

yes Balagopal it is mind boggling. I thought till recently the kings too were known as prajapathi? am I wrong?

Those days (kings) are over and perhaps none remember that.

This is my question.

Do we have to go back?? Can't we concentrate to develop our mind for a vision to see ahead? We certainly can take lessons from the past but I want to look forward and see the world that we are going to leave behind is a better place for the generations to come. How about that??

Please consider and I hope my elders like KVG, Shri Radhakrishnan and others can give guidance towards that direction. Perhaps youngsters will have better ideas and welcoming them too.

Ohm Narayanaya Namah

Chandrasekharan Menon

 

balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpalguruvayur Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:47:02 AMRe: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] PRAJAPATHI

 

HARI AUMThanks a lot Shree Radhakrishnanji. The vastness ofour scriptures is really mind boggling.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA--- "P.R.RADHAKRISHNAN" <pallassanas@ > wrote:> > "OM NAMO BHAGAVATHE VASUDEVAYA"> > Friends,> > I saw lot of commotions made regarding > "PRAJAPATHY" . Literal meaning> of PRAJAPATHY is Brahma, the LORD OF CREATION.> > PRAJAPATHIS ARE 10 in numbers :-> > They are (1) Mareechi (2) Athri (3) Angirasa (4)> Pulasthya (5) Pulaha> (6) Krathu (7) Prachethas> > (8) Vasishta (9) Bhrugu (10) Narada [Manu 1-34}> > According to Brahadaranyaka Upanishad Verse 2. His> Praja is three fold> : Asuras, Manushas and

Devas.> > On the Asuras he enjoins "BE KIND TO ALL', On> Manushas "be charitable'> and on Devas practise "self control"> > However, what I saw in the WEB is given below :> > QUOTE :> > "> > Prajapathy> > > > If Krishna is a far cry from the superlative person> of Jesus, there is> another person in the Rig Veda who fits the> comparison most. As there> are 73 books in the Holy Bible, there are 10 books> in the Rigveda. Ten> mandalams. First nine mandalams refers to a God and> presents methods of> worship as rituals. In the tenth mandalam, besides> this Lord Almighty,> there is the mention about a man. The first born and> only born son of> the God. His name is `Prajapathy' . Prajapathy, the> son of the> God comes to this world at the appropriate

time.> After coming to this> world he travels around advising mankind, what is> sin and what is not> sin; what is to be done and what is not to be done;> what is wrong and> what is right. To those human beings, who accept his> advises and obey> his orders, he offers prosperity and peace in this> worldly life and> salvation at the time of their death. And being the> completion of his> venture to redeem mankind from sin, he gets> sacrificed at the end his> specified period on earth.> > In verse 7 chapter 90 of the 10th book of the> Rigveda, the sacrifice of> Prajapathy the Son of God, is well explained.> > `At the time of sacrifice, the son of God will be> tightly tied to a> wooden sacrificial post using iron nails by hands> and legs, he will> bleed to death and on the third day he will

regain> his life in a> resurrection. " Evidently none of the avatars meets> this> description. Nor are they expecting another> incarnation, which will fit> the description and attributes. The attributes of> Prajapathy are given> in the Rigveda and as in Sathapadha Brahmana, a> supplement to Yajurveda.> The next avatar is Kalki who is simply the> destroyer. Let us start from> the beginning:> > sa paryaghachachukrama virunamsnaviram shudhhama> papavittham> kavirmanishi :> paribhur swayambhur yadhatha ityadhorthan > viyadhadhacha chiviyaha> samabhyaha"> > A self realized person visualizes that supreme> personality of God head> as> (1) paryagathaha – omnipresent> (2) Shukramaha – omnipotent> (3) akayamaha – having no phenomenal body> (4) avranamaha – in this

person there are no> imperfections that of> gross physical body> (5) Asnaviramaha – without any vein (his actions do> not depend upon> the viens for emulation of blood to the limbs of his> body which is> perfect on his own occord, in other words no blood> in his veins)> (6) shukthamaha – he is pure, perfect, no impurity> (7) appapavidhham – he is beyond any mundanity as> maya never can> have any hold ( dark ness can't enter him) (8)> kavihi – he> becomes the efficient cause for the creation and> preservation of the> universe and therefore he is omniscient> (9) manishihi – he is the first philosopher who> destroys the> darkness of the heart of the soul with his spiritual> light (10)> paribhuhu – controller of everything> (11) swayambhuhu – self-existent, from the> beginning, he is

not of> the father and mother by flesh> -isha upanishad> > > .In the beginning God was there and he was a spirit.> (Ithereya Upanishad:1/ 1/1)> > Kathopanishad says:> " Naiva vaacha na manasaa> Praapthum shakyo na chakshusha> Astheethi bruvathonyyathra> Kadam thadupalabhyathe "> The Holy Spirit of the God cannot be reached with> the eyes, mind or> words. Only those who believe that He exists and> says so, will be> reaching Him.> (Katham 6:12)> > "Sa eekshatheeme nu loka> Lokaa Paalaanusruja ithi> Sodbhaaya eva purusham> Samudruthya moorchayaayt"> After the creation of the Firmament, Earth and> Waters, the Holy Spirit> of the God thought like this. "I have created all> the Worlds. For> them I should create a protector (Savior). With this> intention, the

Holy> Spirit created a Person from His own self.> (Ithareyopanishad 1. 1:3)> > "Hiranyagarbha: samavarthaagre> Bhuuthasya jaatha: pathireka aaseeth> Sadaadhaara Prudhwivim dyaamuthemam> Kasmai devaaya havisha vidhemam."> In the beginning, God and his supreme spirit alone> existed. From the> supreme Spirit of the God proceeded Hiranya Garbha,> alias Prajapathy,> the first born of the God in the form of light. As> soon as born, he> became the savior of all the worlds.> RgVeda X:121:1> > "Thasmaad virraada jaayatha> viraajo adhi purusha:> Sjaatho athyarichyatha> Paschaad bhoomimadhopura: "> From that male the universe came into being. From> that body of the> universe came the omnipresent Person. That Person> thus became manifest,> adopted various forms and character and created

the> earth and other> planets along with the creatures to live in them.> (Rigveda X:90:5)> > "Purusha evedam sarvam> Yadbhutham yachabhavyam> Uthaamruthathwasya esaana> Ya daannenathirohathi"> This man, the first born of the God is all that was,> all that is and all> that has to be. And he comes to this world to give> recompense to> everybody as per his deeds.> (Rigveda X:90:2)> > "Tham yajnam barhishi proukshan> Purusham jaathamagratha> Thena deva ayajantha> Sadhya rushayaschaye"> This man, the first born of the God, was tied to a> wooden sacrificial> post and the gods and the Kings along the seers> performed the sacrifice> === message truncated ===Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online at http://in.messenger ./ webmessengerprom o.php