Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Krishna Guruvayoorappa Dear Ones, I was also faced with a question from one of my friends, a Hindu believer, in more or less the same context. And I was also able to answer him in almost the same way Sreejith did. But I promised him to give the correct answer once I get it from someone who is a learned devotee. He asked me innocently that, inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that. Had HE avoided us to make any bad actions, we could have achieved Godhead right after our first lives. Can anybody give an explanation to this please, as the question seems to be a genuine one ? Krishna Guruvayoorappa With prayers Hari Prasad Geetha Nair <geethasnin wrote: Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hare Krishna !I am not sure I am right... But i have a feeling from what I learnt from Srimath Bhagavatham (from Sapthahams) that while the Lord is not the reason for anything that is happening; but is the witness for all what is happening. GEETHOPADESHAM is the right grandham wherein HE explains all these in details. Besides as HE told to Bhattathirippad when he requested to cure his illness, Lord said, " As you are my favourite, I can do cure your problem, but you may need to bear this in the next Janmam as these are the Karmas which we are supposed to bear. But of course, being in this Janma as human being who have been given the sense to realise which is good and which is not good, we are bound to think many a times before we do, as to whether what we are going to do is correct. This probably will reduce our Karma Doshams in the next janmams to come...... I request all to intervene, and correct, if i am wrong. Om Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya !!Jayasree Menon 2008/4/30 harig preetha <harigpreetha: Krishna Guruvayoorappa Dear Ones, I was also faced with a question from one of my friends, a Hindu believer, in more or less the same context. And I was also able to answer him in almost the same way Sreejith did. But I promised him to give the correct answer once I get it from someone who is a learned devotee. He asked me innocently that, inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that. Had HE avoided us to make any bad actions, we could have achieved Godhead right after our first lives. Can anybody give an explanation to this please, as the question seems to be a genuine one ? Krishna Guruvayoorappa With prayers Hari Prasad Geetha Nair <geethasnin wrote: Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha " Sreejith K. P. " <srjithkp wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question. One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was "It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people." I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me" What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him." I was really flapped by that question. But I didn't give up. I thought for a while and answered. "It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahma". I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. " Kshipa Om Swaha " Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. -- Best regardsJayasree MenonBangalore+9900149461 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Dear all, At Pushkar ,Rajasthan ,there is a temple dedicated to Brahma. Ohm Namo Narayanaya. Humbly yours, Girija. guruvayur , harig preetha <harigpreetha wrote: > > > Krishna Guruvayoorappa > > Dear Ones, > > I was also faced with a question from one of my friends, a Hindu believer, in more or less the same context. And I was also able to answer him in almost the same way Sreejith did. But I promised him to give the correct answer once I get it from someone who is a learned devotee. > > He asked me innocently that, inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that. Had HE avoided us to make any bad actions, we could have achieved Godhead right after our first lives. > > Can anybody give an explanation to this please, as the question seems to be a genuine one ? > > Krishna Guruvayoorappa > > With prayers > Hari Prasad > > Geetha Nair geethasnin wrote: > Dear Sreejith, > > Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. > > Thanks & Regards, > Geetha > > " Sreejith K. P. " srjithkp wrote: > Hi all Bhakthas, > > I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question. > One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but > four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. > > Regards, > Sreejith. > " Kshipa Om Swaha " > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. > > > > > > Geetha Nair > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Dear all, Radhe krishna! The answer for this is given in Narayaneeyam by Bhattatiri himself, "KASHTAA THEY SRISHTI-CHESHTA BAHUTARA-BHAVA-KHEDAVAHAA JEEVA-BHAJAAM ITHYEVAM POORVAM ALOCHITHAM AJITHA MAYAA NEIVAM ADYAABHIJANE! NO CHED JEEVAAH KATTHAM VA MADHURATARAM IDAM TWAD-VAPUH CHID-RASA-AARDRAM NETHREIH SROTHREIH CHA PEETHWA PARAMA-RASA-SUDHA-AMBODHI-POORE RAMERAN! (Dasakam 1, sloka 7.) Commentary “O Invincible One! Your own creation, Maya, which encompasses the whole Universe, has no temptation for You. Hence, You are one who is beyond the realm of Maya. All those who want to be free from the temptations of Maya should, therefore, worship You. Your prowess is so great that great warriors like Ravana found themselves to be totally helpless while confronting You. Mythology is replete with Your sportive adventures and I used to wonder how difficult this activity is, and whether it is necessary at all! Sport for You turns out to be suffering for somebody else! O Lord! Your sport of creating this vast universe and an array of living beings therein, and subjecting them to the untold miseries of Samsara, going through millions of birth-death cycles, looked puzzling to me. Is it not atrocious on Your part to indulge in a sadistic game like this? No wonder! If only You had undergone even a fraction of their woes, You would not have ventured into this tragic sport! "NA HI VANDHYA VIJANAATHI GURVEEM PRASAVA-VEDANAAM" (A barren woman does not know the intensity of labour pains). So how can You, who do not submit Yourself to the realm of Maya, understand what is misery? O Lord! Even during the incarnations as Sri Rama, Sri Krishna and the like, although You had assumed a body consisting of Suddha-Sattvam, there was no lack of, or concealment of, the "Nishkala-brahma-chaithanyam" (the divine vitality of Brahman, Impersonal and Absolute.). In each of these incarnations, it looks as though You have really undergone a mundane existence, displaying attributes like birth, growth, decay, death, etc., behaving like any other human being, and giving expression to feelings, sentiments and the like whereas, in reality, it was all a make-believe, like a super-star acting in a drama! I had felt that this injustice was committed by You as You have not really understood others’ feelings!” The address as "AJITHA" echoes this idea. “But, my Lord! I do realise now, after having had the vision of Your divine image and having enjoyed the nectar of the Supreme Consciousness-Bliss present in You, that it was, indeed, immature on my part, (the stupid person that I am), to have entertained such thoughts about You. This job of Creation is not at all difficult for you. Extremely fond of Your devotees, as You are, what You have done is a great favour indeed! For, if You had not indulged in this activity and created these living beings, and this beautiful universe too for their enjoyment, how could they have had the pleasure of feasting through their eyes and ears respectively, on the vision of Your charming form and the wonderful stories of Your incarnations and sports to their hearts' content, and getting immersed in the ocean of Infinite Bliss? In fact, the entire mankind should be thankful to You for creating them and providing them with unlimited opportunities for satiating their thirst for You ! ” No doubt, the Lord's creative activity brings about misery to the ignorant and immense pleasure to the enlightened. By this sloka, the poet impresses upon the readers the incessant need to worship the Lord of Guruvayoor with all sincerity and devotion. Regards KVG harig preetha wrote: Krishna Guruvayoorappa Dear Ones, I was also faced with a question from one of my friends, a Hindu believer, in more or less the same context. And I was also able to answer him in almost the same way Sreejith did. But I promised him to give the correct answer once I get it from someone who is a learned devotee. He asked me innocently that, inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that. Had HE avoided us to make any bad actions, we could have achieved Godhead right after our first lives. Can anybody give an explanation to this please, as the question seems to be a genuine one ? Krishna Guruvayoorappa With prayers Hari Prasad Geetha Nair <geethasnin (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha "Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question. One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Geethaji, There are two instances related to that according to two puranas. In Shivapurana, it is said that Lord Shiva cursed Lord Brahma so that he becomes ineligible to be worshiped in temples. The reason is that being one of trimurthis he lied to Lord Shiva with the help of fake witness of “Kaithappo†that he had found the top end of Shiva-Linga in order to win his bet with Lord Vishnu. I think the story is known to all. Lord Shiva knowing the truth became annoyed and he cursed both Brahma and “Kaithappoâ€. The curse given to Kaithappo was that she will not be further used for poojas. His anger was accumulating. He sliced out one of the five heads of Brahma and the half-skull of Brahma is the kapala (Bowl) which is used by Lord Shiva. The other story is taken from one of the Vaishnava puranas (I forgot which is the actual purana). One day when Sage Bhrigu (Father of Shukracharya) was about to perform a Maha-Yagam, he was in confusion. He needed to choose one of the trimurthis as yagnapurusha and he was confused about that. Then Sage Narada arrived. Bhrigu asked him for help. Narada replied- “Brahma is the creator, Vishnu is the conserver and Shiva is the destroyer. So in my aspect all are eligible. It is better that you make a judgment yourself.†Hearing this from Narada, Bhrigu decided to visit the trimurthis. He went to Brahmaloka first. There Brahma was listening to Saraswathi’s music. He neglected Bhrigu. This made the sage irritated and he put a curse on Brahma that he will not be further worshiped in temples. Then he went to Kailas, there Lord Shiva was chatting with Parvathi. The disturbance by Bhrigu made him annoyed and he scolded the sage. Bhrigu also was frustrated and he cursed Lord Shiva that Shiva-Linga will be further worshiped in the temples instead of his idol. Totally disturbed he reached Vaikunda. There he saw Lord Vishnu relaxing, keeping his head on MahaLakshmi’s lap. Actually Lord was sleeping so he couldn’t know the sage’s arrival. Feeling insulted, Bhrigu kicked Lord on his chest and this made a mark on his chest, and it is later known as “Srivalsam. Lord woke up and saw Bhrigu. He asked Bhrigu whether his leg is paining. Bhrigu understood his mistake and he apologized Lord Vishnu. And finally Bhrigu got his answer. Regards, Sreejith. "Ekadantham mahakayam taptakanchana sannibham Lambodharam vishalaaksham vandeham gananaayakam "--- On Tue, 29/4/08, Geetha Nair <geethasnin wrote: Geetha Nair <geethasninRe: [Guruvayur] need helpguruvayur Date: Tuesday, 29 April, 2008, 10:33 AM Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Dear all."inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that"I think that when there are two strong forces (like Good vs Bad), for proper balance they have to be co-existing. If only good is present everywhere, one cannot realize its value. Only in the presence of bad, one can judge the importance and the real meaning of being good. I remember a saying in Telugu by Yogi Vemana that "Kami gaka Mokshagami kaadu" implying one cannot achieve moksha without experiencing bad.Thanks,Murali Krishna Emani--- On Tue, 29/4/08, harig preetha <harigpreetha wrote:harig preetha <harigpreethaRe: [Guruvayur] need helpTo: guruvayur Date: Tuesday, 29 April, 2008, 7:04 PM Krishna Guruvayoorappa Dear Ones, I was also faced with a question from one of my friends, a Hindu believer, in more or less the same context. And I was also able to answer him in almost the same way Sreejith did. But I promised him to give the correct answer once I get it from someone who is a learned devotee. He asked me innocently that, inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that. Had HE avoided us to make any bad actions, we could have achieved Godhead right after our first lives. Can anybody give an explanation to this please, as the question seems to be a genuine one ? Krishna Guruvayoorappa With prayers Hari Prasad Geetha Nair <geethasnin (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Dear Guruvayurappan Bhaktas, Once I too asked this same question to my grandma. She gave a beautuful and convincing reply (some 25 years back). I would like to share it with you all. My maternal Grandma said: "God created Devas to do only good things and asuras to do only bad things. No option has been given to them. Then HE created humans and gave them the option - to do good or bad. So, we, humans, have the option with us. Then HE told Devas that humans are more powerful and blessed than you - if humans do good. The reason is, humans have the option and out of their own choise, they do good things and keep away from bad things. That's why in Vedas, the homa, yagna could be done only in the earth (pooloham) and not at any other place (including heaven) and only by humans." Next she said, "You would know how pleasant the shade is, only if you walk in hot sun. You would know the value of water only if you are thirsty. You would know the value of food if you are hungry. Similarly, you would know the value of HIM only if you suffer. That's why HE gives suffereings to us. Yes, you believe in HIM and ask for strength to bear the suffereing. Don't ask HIM to remove the suffereing. HE knows how much you can bear and accordingly HE will take action." If any mistakes, pl. forgive me - Dr. Hari Krishna, China Om Santhi Om Santhi Om Santhiharig preetha <harigpreetha wrote: Krishna Guruvayoorappa Dear Ones, I was also faced with a question from one of my friends, a Hindu believer, in more or less the same context. And I was also able to answer him in almost the same way Sreejith did. But I promised him to give the correct answer once I get it from someone who is a learned devotee. He asked me innocently that, inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that. Had HE avoided us to make any bad actions, we could have achieved Godhead right after our first lives. Can anybody give an explanation to this please, as the question seems to be a genuine one ? Krishna Guruvayoorappa With prayers Hari Prasad Geetha Nair <geethasnin (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Namaste. There is a story behind not worshipping Brahma. Once, Brahma and Vishnu had a verbal fight as to who is mightier than the other. suddenly a big Lingam appreared before them. It was decided that Brahma would go up to find the top of the Lingam and Vishnu will go down to see the end. whoever sees the top or end first is the mightiest. Thus, Brahma went up and Vishnu went down. they both went for long but couldnt find the start or end. On the way, Brahma saw a flower coming down, which came from the Lingam's head. Brahma persuaded the flower to tell a lie to Vishnu that Brahma had seen the top and got the flower from the top. After much persuasion, the flower agreed and they told Vishnu thus. Vishnu accepted that Brahma is mightier than Him. Immediately Siva appeared in front of them. He was very angry with Brahma's lie and cursed that henceforth nobody will pray Brahma and the flower will never be used in prayers and offering. I dont remember which flower it is. Jai Sree Krishna Seema --- On Tue, 4/29/08, Geetha Nair <geethasnin wrote: Geetha Nair <geethasninRe: [Guruvayur] need helpguruvayur Date: Tuesday, April 29, 2008, 6:03 AM Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Friend, Please refer the history of Thirupati Sreenivasa temple,you will get the answer for,not worshiping Brahma in temples and you can also find the reason why Siva is worshipped in the form of linga not sivamoorthi in Kaliyug. Still can't find please let me know. Other religions,they read regularly and made compulsary to study/teach their holly books from the childhood,hence they found to be more thorough on their religious things.But in hindu society now a days it is others questions which makes us to look into ourself ! Though we have good organisations ,most of us no time to read/study at least Geeta,resulting in confusion when faced with such a simple question related to our religion. This is not blaming ,but to highlight the current situation in general. regards Sreenivas harig preetha <harigpreethaguruvayur Sent: Wednesday, 30 April, 2008 4:04:49 AMRe: [Guruvayur] need help Krishna Guruvayoorappa Dear Ones, I was also faced with a question from one of my friends, a Hindu believer, in more or less the same context. And I was also able to answer him in almost the same way Sreejith did. But I promised him to give the correct answer once I get it from someone who is a learned devotee. He asked me innocently that, inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that. Had HE avoided us to make any bad actions, we could have achieved Godhead right after our first lives. Can anybody give an explanation to this please, as the question seems to be a genuine one ? Krishna Guruvayoorappa With prayers Hari Prasad Geetha Nair <geethasnin (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear All, As long as we attach our name and physical form to all the actions and events in and around ourself, we will be bound by this so called Good and Bad karmas. In absolute reality, there is nothing as good and bad karma and everything melts down in one supreme. All these differences and so called happiness and sufferings occur only till we use our mind to evaluate them. The moment we cross the barrier of mind, it is only absolute bliss and NITHYA ANANDAM. Please understand that mind is not any phsical entity and it is only our stored thoughts. Them moment we stop comparing any event or an activity happening in the present with our past experiences / memorised thougts or with anxiety about future (extrapolation), we cross the barrier of mind and we are in bliss and beyod the so called GOOD or BAD karmas It is very easy to do this provided we focus our mind only on the present and in the present we do events and actions surrendering to HIS lotus feet. At this point, you will start seeing that there is actually no good or bad karmas and they are just things going around us. By HIS grace, let us try to adopt this atleast for few hours a day and see how blissful it is. HARE KRISHNA Sriram Murali Krishna <emanimuraliguruvayur Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:29:36 PMRe: [Guruvayur] need help Dear all."inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that"I think that when there are two strong forces (like Good vs Bad), for proper balance they have to be co-existing. If only good is present everywhere, one cannot realize its value. Only in the presence of bad, one can judge the importance and the real meaning of being good. I remember a saying in Telugu by Yogi Vemana that "Kami gaka Mokshagami kaadu" implying one cannot achieve moksha without experiencing bad.Thanks,Murali Krishna Emani--- On Tue, 29/4/08, harig preetha <harigpreetha@ > wrote: harig preetha <harigpreetha@ >Re: [Guruvayur] need helpguruvayur@grou ps.comTuesday, 29 April, 2008, 7:04 PM Krishna Guruvayoorappa Dear Ones, I was also faced with a question from one of my friends, a Hindu believer, in more or less the same context. And I was also able to answer him in almost the same way Sreejith did. But I promised him to give the correct answer once I get it from someone who is a learned devotee. He asked me innocently that, inspite of we humans being the children of God, why HE was allowing us to do papa karma at the first place and then make us suffer because of that. Had HE avoided us to make any bad actions, we could have achieved Godhead right after our first lives. Can anybody give an explanation to this please, as the question seems to be a genuine one ? Krishna Guruvayoorappa With prayers Hari Prasad Geetha Nair <geethasnin (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.” I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me” What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.” I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahma”. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 The Brahma temple in Pushkar,Rajastan is an important pilgrimage center for Hindus. It is the only temple dedicated to Brahma. The Pushkar lake nearby is also revered by Hindus. Jai shree Krishna ! A Nair guruvayur , Geetha Nair <geethasnin wrote: > > Dear Sreejith, > > Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. > > Thanks & Regards, > Geetha > > " Sreejith K. P. " <srjithkp wrote: > Hi all Bhakthas, > > I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question. > One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but > four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. > > Regards, > Sreejith. > " Kshipa Om Swaha " > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. > > > > > Geetha Nair > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Thank you seemaji for letting me know the story.Seema Ravindran <seemawarrier wrote: Namaste. There is a story behind not worshipping Brahma. Once, Brahma and Vishnu had a verbal fight as to who is mightier than the other. suddenly a big Lingam appreared before them. It was decided that Brahma would go up to find the top of the Lingam and Vishnu will go down to see the end. whoever sees the top or end first is the mightiest. Thus, Brahma went up and Vishnu went down. they both went for long but couldnt find the start or end. On the way, Brahma saw a flower coming down, which came from the Lingam's head. Brahma persuaded the flower to tell a lie to Vishnu that Brahma had seen the top and got the flower from the top. After much persuasion, the flower agreed and they told Vishnu thus. Vishnu accepted that Brahma is mightier than Him. Immediately Siva appeared in front of them. He was very angry with Brahma's lie and cursed that henceforth nobody will pray Brahma and the flower will never be used in prayers and offering. I dont remember which flower it is. Jai Sree Krishna Seema --- On Tue, 4/29/08, Geetha Nair <geethasnin (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Geetha Nair <geethasnin (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: [Guruvayur] need helpguruvayur Date: Tuesday, April 29, 2008, 6:03 AM Dear Sreejith, Can you please, if possible let me know the answer you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. Thanks & Regards, Geetha"Sreejith K. P." <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi all Bhakthas, I would like to get help from someone for getting an answer for a strange question.One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me two questions. One of them I was able to explain and it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second question really smacked me and I was speechless for a while. The question is he asked me was “It is said in our books that people of 4 varnas materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from feet. Why the same god creates 4 different people.†I answered him that one is born due to his past karmas and the people with good deeds in their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated with him.†I was really flapped by that question. But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and answered. “It was actually not four people but four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied with it. Now I would like to know about its exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Regards, Sreejith. "Kshipa Om Swaha" Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Geetha Nair Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Geetha Nair Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 the flowers name is kaitha puve(it will grow in the river beds or the place where 24 hours water available, which is having good fragrain..(poojakidukatha poove.ever after having good fragrain) --- Geetha Nair <geethasnin wrote: > Thank you seemaji for letting me know the story. > > Seema Ravindran <seemawarrier wrote: > Namaste. > There is a story behind not worshipping Brahma. > Once, Brahma and Vishnu had a verbal fight as to who > is mightier than the other. suddenly a big Lingam > appreared before them. It was decided that Brahma > would go up to find the top of the Lingam and Vishnu > will go down to see the end. whoever sees the top or > end first is the mightiest. Thus, Brahma went up and > Vishnu went down. they both went for long but > couldnt find the start or end. On the way, Brahma > saw a flower coming down, which came from the > Lingam's head. Brahma persuaded the flower to tell a > lie to Vishnu that Brahma had seen the top and got > the flower from the top. After much persuasion, the > flower agreed and they told Vishnu thus. Vishnu > accepted that Brahma is mightier than Him. > Immediately Siva appeared in front of them. He was > very angry with Brahma's lie and cursed that > henceforth nobody will pray Brahma and the flower > will never be used in prayers and offering. I dont > remember which flower it is. > Jai Sree Krishna > Seema > > --- On Tue, 4/29/08, Geetha Nair > <geethasnin wrote: > > Geetha Nair <geethasnin > Re: [Guruvayur] need help > guruvayur > Tuesday, April 29, 2008, 6:03 AM > > Dear Sreejith, > > Can you please, if possible let me know the answer > you gave for the 1st question. That Why Brahma is > not worshipped in any of our HIndu temples. > > Thanks & Regards, > Geetha > > " Sreejith K. P. " <srjithkp (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Hi all Bhakthas, > > I would like to get help from someone for getting > an answer for a strange question. > One day when I was talking to a friend (he is an > Islam, but well versed in many slokas), he asked me > two questions. One of them I was able to explain and > it was that why Brahma even though he is one of the > trimurthis is not worshiped in temples. The second > question really smacked me and I was speechless for > a while. The question is he asked me was “It is > said in our books that people of 4 varnas > materialized from four body parts of Lord Brahma > namely Brahmans from face, Kshatriyas from > shoulders, Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from > feet. Why the same god creates 4 different > people.†I answered him that one is born due to > his past karmas and the people with good deeds in > their past are born as Brahmins. He again asked > me†What was the evil deed done by first Shudra > born from Brahma as he had no past karma associated > with him.†I was really flapped by that question. > But I didn’t give up. I thought for a while and > answered. “It was actually not four people but > four varnas that emerged from Brahmaâ€. I am > doubtful with my own answer, but he was satisfied > with it. Now I would like to know about its > exactness. I would be grateful if somebody could > help me. > > Regards, > Sreejith. > " Kshipa Om Swaha " > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to > begin. > > > > > > Geetha Nair > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > Geetha Nair > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. > Join them now. ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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