Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 DEFNITLY BUDDHA IS ONE INCARNATION NAMELY 21ST INCARNATION...THIS IS MENTIONED IN SRIMAD BHAGAVATHAM FIRST CANTO 3RD CHAPTER...THIS IS WRITTEN IN BHAGAVATHAM EVEN FIVE THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE BUDDHA INCARNATED...THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER INCARNATION WHICH IS MENTIONED YEARS BEFORE THE INCARNATION THAT IS KALKI AVATHAR THE 22ND AVATHAR...TO KNOW ABOUT BHAGAVATHAM YOU PLEASE LOG ON TO THIS SITEhttp://www.bhagavatadharma.co.uk/ THER IS ENGLISH LECTURE IN BHAGAVATHAM THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL DESCRIPTION VERSE BY VERSE BY SRILA PRABHUPADHA IN ENGLISH WHICH YOU CAN READ ONLINE ...JUST WHEN ONE STARTS TO HEAR OR READ SRIMADBHAGAVATHAM KRISHNA IMMEDITALY ENTERS INTO THAT PERSONS HEART TO PURIFY...TO PROTECT...TO BLESS..AND FULLFILL THE WISHES OF THAT DEVOTEE...AND KRISHNA BHAKTHI DEVELOPS DAY BY DAY On 7/6/08, Manoj Kunniyur <kunniyurmanoj wrote: Om Namo Narayanaya Respected Devotees, Could anybody describe the purpose of Buddha Avatar of Lord Vishnu. In this you tube link they showed Gautama Buddha as Lord´s incarnation. I am sure it is wrong. Hare Guruvayurappa... Manoj Kunniyur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Om Namo Narayanaya Dear Sreenivasanji, Thank you very much for the information. Could you tell me then which is the 9th Avatar of the Lord. Hare Krishna Manoj Kunniyur. --- On Tue, 7/8/08, SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasan wrote: SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasanRe: [Guruvayur] Buddha Avatarguruvayur Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 12:35 PM DEFNITLY BUDDHA IS ONE INCARNATION NAMELY 21ST INCARNATION. ..THIS IS MENTIONED IN SRIMAD BHAGAVATHAM FIRST CANTO 3RD CHAPTER...THIS IS WRITTEN IN BHAGAVATHAM EVEN FIVE THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE BUDDHA INCARNATED.. .THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER INCARNATION WHICH IS MENTIONED YEARS BEFORE THE INCARNATION THAT IS KALKI AVATHAR THE 22ND AVATHAR...TO KNOW ABOUT BHAGAVATHAM YOU PLEASE LOG ON TO THIS SITEhttp://www.bhagavat adharma.co. uk/ THER IS ENGLISH LECTURE IN BHAGAVATHAM THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL DESCRIPTION VERSE BY VERSE BY SRILA PRABHUPADHA IN ENGLISH WHICH YOU CAN READ ONLINE ....JUST WHEN ONE STARTS TO HEAR OR READ SRIMADBHAGAVATHAM KRISHNA IMMEDITALY ENTERS INTO THAT PERSONS HEART TO PURIFY...TO PROTECT...TO BLESS..AND FULLFILL THE WISHES OF THAT DEVOTEE...AND KRISHNA BHAKTHI DEVELOPS DAY BY DAY On 7/6/08, Manoj Kunniyur <kunniyurmanoj@ > wrote: Om Namo Narayanaya Respected Devotees, Could anybody describe the purpose of Buddha Avatar of Lord Vishnu. In this you tube link they showed Gautama Buddha as Lord´s incarnation. I am sure it is wrong. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=ciSJucB7LYU Hare Guruvayurappa. .. Manoj Kunniyur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Chapter 3: KrÌ£sÌ£nÌ£a Is the Source of All Incarnations Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: ÅšrÄ«mad BhÄgavatam 1.3.24 tatahÌ£ kalau sampravrÌ£tte sammohÄya sura-dvisÌ£Äm buddho nÄmnÄñjana-sutahÌ£ kÄ«katÌ£esÌ£u bhavisÌ£yati SYNONYMS tatahÌ£ — thereafter; kalau — the age of Kali; sampravrÌ£tte — having ensued; sammohÄya — for the purpose of deluding; sura — the theists; dvisÌ£Äm — those who are envious; buddhahÌ£ — Lord Buddha; nÄmnÄ â€” of the name; añjana-sutahÌ£ — whose mother was AñjanÄ; kÄ«katÌ£esÌ£u — in the province of GayÄ (Bihar); bhavisÌ£yati — will take place. TRANSLATION Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga, the Lord will appear as Lord Buddha, the son of AñjanÄ, in the province of GayÄ, just for the purpose of deluding those who are envious of the faithful theist. PURPORT Lord Buddha, a powerful incarnation of the Personality of Godhead, appeared in the province of GayÄ (Bihar) as the son of AñjanÄ, and he preached his own conception of nonviolence and deprecated even the animal sacrifices sanctioned in the Vedas. At the time when Lord Buddha appeared, the people in general were atheistic and preferred animal flesh to anything else. On the plea of Vedic sacrifice, every place was practically turned into a slaughterhouse, and animal-killing was indulged in unrestrictedly. Lord Buddha preached nonviolence, taking pity on the poor animals. He preached that he did not believe in the tenets of the Vedas and stressed the adverse psychological effects incurred by animal-killing. Less intelligent men of the age of Kali, who had no faith in God, followed his principle, and for the time being they were trained in moral discipline and nonviolence, the preliminary steps for proceeding further on the path of God realization. He deluded the atheists because such atheists who followed his principles did not believe in God, but they kept their absolute faith in Lord Buddha, who himself was the incarnation of God. Thus the faithless people were made to believe in God in the form of Lord Buddha. That was the mercy of Lord Buddha: he made the faithless faithful to him. Killing of animals before the advent of Lord Buddha was the most prominent feature of the society. People claimed that these were Vedic sacrifices. When the Vedas are not accepted through the authoritative disciplic succession, the casual readers of the Vedas are misled by the flowery language of that system of knowledge. In the Bhagavad-gÄ«tÄ a comment has been made on such foolish scholars (avipaÅ›citahÌ£). The foolish scholars of Vedic literature who do not care to receive the transcendental message through the transcendental realized sources of disciplic succession are sure to be bewildered. To them, the ritualistic ceremonies are considered to be all in all. They have no depth of knowledge. According to the Bhagavad-gÄ«tÄ (15.15), vedaiÅ› ca sarvair aham eva vedyahÌ£: the whole system of the Vedas is to lead one gradually to the path of the Supreme Lord. The whole theme of Vedic literature is to know the Supreme Lord, the individual soul, the cosmic situation and the relation between all these items. When the relation is known, the relative function begins, and as a result of such a function the ultimate goal of life or going back to Godhead takes place in the easiest manner. Unfortunately, unauthorized scholars of the Vedas become captivated by the purificatory ceremonies only, and natural progress is thereby checked. To such bewildered persons of atheistic propensity, Lord Buddha is the emblem of theism. He therefore first of all wanted to check the habit of animal-killing. The animal-killers are dangerous elements on the path going back to Godhead. There are two types of animal-killers. The soul is also sometimes called the " animal " or the living being. Therefore, both the slaughterer of animals and those who have lost their identity of soul are animal-killers. MahÄrÄja ParÄ«ksÌ£it said that only the animal-killer cannot relish the transcendental message of the Supreme Lord. Therefore if people are to be educated to the path of Godhead, they must be taught first and foremost to stop the process of animal-killing as above mentioned. It is nonsensical to say that animal-killing has nothing to do with spiritual realization. By this dangerous theory many so-called sannyÄsÄ«s have sprung up by the grace of Kali-yuga who preach animal-killing under the garb of the Vedas. The subject matter has already been discussed in the conversation between Lord Caitanya and Maulana Chand Kazi Shaheb. The animal sacrifice as stated in the Vedas is different from the unrestricted animal-killing in the slaughterhouse. Because the asuras or the so-called scholars of Vedic literatures put forward the evidence of animal-killing in the Vedas, Lord Buddha superficially denied the authority of the Vedas. This rejection of the Vedas by Lord Buddha was adopted in order to save people from the vice of animal-killing as well as to save the poor animals from the slaughtering process of their big brothers who clamor for universal brotherhood, peace, justice and equity. There is no justice when there is animal-killing. Lord Buddha wanted to stop it completely, and therefore his cult of ahimÌsÄ was propagated not only in India but also outside the country. Technically Lord Buddha's philosophy is called atheistic because there is no acceptance of the Supreme Lord and because that system of philosophy denied the authority of the Vedas. But that is an act of camouflage by the Lord. Lord Buddha is the incarnation of Godhead. As such, he is the original propounder of Vedic knowledge. He therefore cannot reject Vedic philosophy. But he rejected it outwardly because the sura-dvisÌ£a, or the demons who are always envious of the devotees of Godhead, try to support cow-killing or animal-killing from the pages of the Vedas, and this is now being done by the modernized sannyÄsÄ«s. Lord Buddha had to reject the authority of the Vedas altogether. This is simply technical, and had it not been so he would not have been so accepted as the incarnation of Godhead. Nor would he have been worshiped in the transcendental songs of the poet Jayadeva, who is a VaisÌ£nÌ£ava ÄcÄrya. Lord Buddha preached the preliminary principles of the Vedas in a manner suitable for the time being (and so also did ÅšaÅ„karÄcÄrya) to establish the authority of the Vedas. Therefore both Lord Buddha and Ä€cÄrya ÅšaÅ„kara paved the path of theism, and VaisÌ£nÌ£ava ÄcÄryas, specifically Lord ÅšrÄ« Caitanya MahÄprabhu, led the people on the path towards a realization of going back to Godhead. We are glad that people are taking interest in the nonviolent movement of Lord Buddha. But will they take the matter very seriously and close the animal slaughterhouses altogether? If not, there is no meaning to the ahimÌsÄ cult. ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam was composed just prior to the beginning of the age of Kali (about five thousand years ago), and Lord Buddha appeared about twenty-six hundred years ago. Therefore in the ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam Lord Buddha is foretold. Such is the authority of this clear scripture. There are many such prophecies, and they are being fulfilled one after another. They will indicate the positive standing of ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam, which is without trace of mistake, illusion, cheating and imperfection, which are the four flaws of all conditioned souls. The liberated souls are above these flaws; therefore they can see and foretell things which are to take place on distant future dates. <<>> Copyright © The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International, Inc.His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami PrabhupÄda On 7/8/08, SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasan wrote: DEFNITLY BUDDHA IS ONE INCARNATION NAMELY 21ST INCARNATION...THIS IS MENTIONED IN SRIMAD BHAGAVATHAM FIRST CANTO 3RD CHAPTER...THIS IS WRITTEN IN BHAGAVATHAM EVEN FIVE THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE BUDDHA INCARNATED...THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER INCARNATION WHICH IS MENTIONED YEARS BEFORE THE INCARNATION THAT IS KALKI AVATHAR THE 22ND AVATHAR...TO KNOW ABOUT BHAGAVATHAM YOU PLEASE LOG ON TO THIS SITEhttp://www.bhagavatadharma.co.uk/ THER IS ENGLISH LECTURE IN BHAGAVATHAM THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL DESCRIPTION VERSE BY VERSE BY SRILA PRABHUPADHA IN ENGLISH WHICH YOU CAN READ ONLINE ...JUST WHEN ONE STARTS TO HEAR OR READ SRIMADBHAGAVATHAM KRISHNA IMMEDITALY ENTERS INTO THAT PERSONS HEART TO PURIFY...TO PROTECT...TO BLESS..AND FULLFILL THE WISHES OF THAT DEVOTEE...AND KRISHNA BHAKTHI DEVELOPS DAY BY DAY On 7/6/08, Manoj Kunniyur <kunniyurmanoj wrote: Om Namo Narayanaya Respected Devotees, Could anybody describe the purpose of Buddha Avatar of Lord Vishnu. In this you tube link they showed Gautama Buddha as Lord´s incarnation. I am sure it is wrong. Hare Guruvayurappa... Manoj Kunniyur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hindu scriptures differ in their interpretation of the Lord's avatars. Some people believe there are 10 avatars other sources mention 25 avatars . Both Budha and Balram are mentioned in the 25 avtar list but within the 10 avatars, Balram and Budha are interchanged. Majority of the people believe that the avatars are symbolisms of the evolution process, starting with Matsya, that is FISH. In the evolution process, life originated from fish and gradually evolved into Kurma, (amphibian ) which could live both on land as well as water, until narasimha, half man, half animal, etc. Rama represents the ideal person and ruler. Krishna, the beautiful and loving God. Balrama had Plough as his weapon and therefore it represents Agriculture development. Buddha, the enlightened one. stands for Social awareness and development. Kalki symbolises the end of the present era and the beginning of a new universe, jai shree krishna ! guruvayur , " SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM " <drsreenivasan wrote: > > Chapter 3: KrÌ£sÌ£nÌ£a Is the Source of All > Incarnations<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/3/en> > > Bhaktivedanta VedaBase <http://vedabase.net/en>: ÅšrÄ«mad > BhÄgavatam<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/en>1.3.24 > > tatahÌ£ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/t/tatah> > kalau<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kalau> > sampravrÌ£tte <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sampravrtte> > > sammohÄya <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sammohaya> > sura<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sura> > -dvisÌ£Äm <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/d/dvisam> > > buddho nÄmnÄñjana-sutahÌ£ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sutah> > > kÄ«katÌ£esÌ£u <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kikatesu> > bhavisÌ£yati<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/bhavisyati> > > SYNONYMS > > tatahÌ£ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/t/tatah> †" thereafter; > kalau<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kalau>†" the > age <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/age> of > Kali<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kali>; > sampravrÌ£tte <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sampravrtte> †" having ensued; > sammohÄya <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sammohaya> †" for the purpose of > deluding; sura <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sura> †" the theists; > dvisÌ£Äm<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/d/dvisam>†" those who > are <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/are> envious; > buddhahÌ£<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddhah>†" Lord > Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>; > nÄmnÄ<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/n/namna>†" of the > name <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/n/name>; > añjana<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/anjana> > -sutahÌ£ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sutah> †" whose mother was > AñjanÄ<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/anjana>; > kÄ«katÌ£esÌ£u <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kikatesu> †" > in<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/i/in>the province of > GayÄ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/g/gaya> (Bihar); > bhavisÌ£yati<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/bhavisyati>†" will take > place. > > TRANSLATION > > Then, in the beginning of Kali > <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kali>- yuga<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/y/yuga>, > the Lord will appear as Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>, > the son of AñjanÄ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/anjana>, in the province of > GayÄ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/g/gaya>, just for the purpose of deluding > those who are envious of the faithful theist. > > PURPORT > > Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>, a powerful incarnation > of the Personality of Godhead, appeared in the province of > GayÄ<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/g/gaya>(Bihar) as the son of > AñjanÄ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/anjana>, and he preached his own > conception of nonviolence and deprecated even the animal sacrifices > sanctioned in the Vedas. At the time when Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>appeared, the people in > general were atheistic and preferred animal flesh to > anything else. On the plea of Vedic sacrifice, every place was practically > turned into a slaughterhouse, and animal-killing was indulged in > unrestrictedly. Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha> preached > nonviolence, taking pity on the poor animals. He preached that he did not > believe in the tenets of the Vedas and stressed the adverse psychological > effects incurred by animal-killing. Less intelligent men of the age of > Kali<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kali>, > who had no faith in God, followed his principle, and for the time being they > were trained in moral discipline and nonviolence, the preliminary steps for > proceeding further on the path of God realization. He deluded the atheists > because such atheists who followed his principles did not believe in God, > but they kept their absolute faith in Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>, > who himself was the incarnation of God. Thus the faithless people were made > to believe in God in the form of Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>. > That was the mercy of Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>: he > made the faithless faithful to him. > > Killing of animals before the advent of Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>was the most prominent > feature of the society. People claimed that these > were Vedic sacrifices. When the Vedas are not accepted through the > authoritative disciplic succession, the casual readers of the Vedas are > misled by the flowery language of that system of knowledge. In the Bhagavad- > gÄ«tÄ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/g/gita> a comment has been made on such > foolish scholars (avipaÅ›citahÌ£ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/avipascitah>). > The foolish scholars of Vedic literature who do not care to receive the > transcendental message through the transcendental realized sources of > disciplic succession are sure to be bewildered. To them, the ritualistic > ceremonies are considered to be all in all. They have no depth of knowledge. > According to the Bhagavad-gÄ«tÄ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/g/gita> > (15.15<http://vedabase.net/bg/15/15/en>), > vedaiÅ› ca <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/c/ca> sarvair > aham<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/aham> > eva <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/e/eva> > vedyahÌ£<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/v/vedyah>: > the whole system of the Vedas is to lead one gradually to the path of the > Supreme Lord. The whole theme of Vedic literature is to know the Supreme > Lord, the individual soul, the cosmic situation and the relation between all > these items. When the relation is known, the relative function begins, and > as a result of such a function the ultimate goal of life or going back to > Godhead takes place in the easiest manner. Unfortunately, unauthorized > scholars of the Vedas become captivated by the purificatory ceremonies only, > and natural progress is thereby checked. > > To such bewildered persons of atheistic propensity, Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>is the emblem of theism. > He therefore first of all wanted to check the habit > of animal-killing. The animal-killers are dangerous elements on the path > going back to Godhead. There are two types of animal-killers. The soul is > also sometimes called the " animal " or the living being. Therefore, both the > slaughterer of animals and those who have lost their identity of soul are > animal-killers. > > MahÄrÄja <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/m/maharaja> > ParÄ«ksÌ£it<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/p/pariksit>said that only the > animal-killer cannot relish the transcendental message of > the Supreme Lord. Therefore if people are to be educated to the path of > Godhead, they must be taught first and foremost to stop the process of > animal-killing as above mentioned. It is nonsensical to say that > animal-killing has nothing to do with spiritual realization. By this > dangerous theory many so-called sannyÄsÄ«s have sprung up by the grace of > Kali <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kali>- yuga<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/y/yuga>who > preach animal-killing under the garb of the Vedas. The subject matter > has already been discussed in the conversation between Lord > Caitanya<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/c/caitanya>and Maulana Chand Kazi > Shaheb. The animal sacrifice as stated in the Vedas > is different from the unrestricted animal-killing in the slaughterhouse. > Because the asuras or the so-called scholars of Vedic literatures put > forward the evidence of animal-killing in the Vedas, Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>superficially denied the > authority of the Vedas. This rejection of the Vedas > by Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha> was adopted in order > to save people from the vice of animal-killing as well as to save the poor > animals from the slaughtering process of their big brothers who clamor for > universal brotherhood, peace, justice and equity. There is no justice when > there is animal-killing. Lord Buddha > <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>wanted to stop it completely, > and therefore his cult of > ahimÌsÄ <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/ahimsa> was propagated not only in > India but also outside the country. > > Technically Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>'s philosophy > is called atheistic because there is no acceptance of the Supreme Lord and > because that system of philosophy denied the authority of the Vedas. But > that is an act of camouflage by the Lord. Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>is the incarnation of > Godhead. As such, he is the original propounder of > Vedic knowledge. He therefore cannot reject Vedic philosophy. But he > rejected it outwardly because the sura > <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sura>-dvisÌ£a, > or the demons who are always envious of the devotees of Godhead, try to > support cow-killing or animal-killing from the pages of the Vedas, and this > is now being done by the modernized sannyÄsÄ«s. Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>had to reject the > authority of the Vedas altogether. This is simply > technical, and had it not been so he would not have been so accepted as the > incarnation of Godhead. Nor would he have been worshiped in the > transcendental songs of the poet > Jayadeva<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/j/jayadeva>, > who is a VaisÌ£nÌ£ava <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/v/vaisnava> > ÄcÄrya<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/acarya>. > Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha> preached the preliminary > principles of the Vedas in a manner suitable for the time being (and so also > did ÅšaÅ„karÄcÄrya <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sankaracarya>) to establish > the authority of the Vedas. Therefore both Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>and > Ä€cÄrya <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/acarya> > ÅšaÅ„kara<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sankara>paved the path of > theism, and > VaisÌ£nÌ£ava <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/v/vaisnava> ÄcÄryas, specifically > Lord ÅšrÄ« <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/sri> > Caitanya<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/c/caitanya> > MahÄprabhu <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/m/mahaprabhu>, led the people on the > path towards a realization of going back to Godhead. > > We are glad that people are taking interest in the nonviolent movement of > Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>. But will they take the > matter very seriously and close the animal slaughterhouses altogether? If > not, there is no meaning to the > ahimÌsÄ<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/a/ahimsa>cult. > > ÅšrÄ«mad <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/srimad>- BhÄgavatam<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/bhagavatam>was > composed just prior to the beginning of the age of > Kali <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/k/kali> (about five thousand years ago), > and Lord Buddha <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha> appeared about > twenty-six hundred years ago. Therefore in the > ÅšrÄ«mad<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/srimad> > -BhÄgavatam <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/bhagavatam> Lord > Buddha<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/buddha>is foretold. Such is the > authority of this clear scripture. There are many > such prophecies, and they are being fulfilled one after another. They will > indicate the positive standing of ÅšrÄ«mad<http://srimadbhagavatam.com/s/srimad> > -BhÄgavatam <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/b/bhagavatam>, which is without > trace of mistake, illusion, cheating and imperfection, which are the four > flaws of all conditioned souls. The liberated souls are above these flaws; > therefore they can see and foretell things which are to take place on > distant future dates. > > <<< <http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/3/23/en> > >>><http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/3/25/en> > > [image: Buy Online] Copyright © The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International, > Inc. <http://www.thekrishnastore.com/Detail.bok?no=795> > His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami PrabhupÄda > > On 7/8/08, SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasan wrote: > > > > DEFNITLY BUDDHA IS ONE INCARNATION NAMELY 21ST INCARNATION...THIS IS > > MENTIONED IN SRIMAD BHAGAVATHAM FIRST CANTO 3RD CHAPTER...THIS IS WRITTEN IN > > BHAGAVATHAM EVEN FIVE THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE BUDDHA INCARNATED...THERE IS > > ALSO ANOTHER INCARNATION WHICH IS MENTIONED YEARS BEFORE THE INCARNATION > > THAT IS KALKI AVATHAR THE 22ND AVATHAR...TO KNOW ABOUT BHAGAVATHAM YOU > > PLEASE LOG ON TO THIS SITEhttp://www.bhagavatadharma.co.uk/ THER IS > > ENGLISH LECTURE IN BHAGAVATHAM THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL DESCRIPTION VERSE BY > > VERSE BY SRILA PRABHUPADHA IN ENGLISH WHICH YOU CAN READ ONLINE ...JUST > > WHEN ONE STARTS TO HEAR OR READ SRIMADBHAGAVATHAM KRISHNA IMMEDITALY ENTERS > > INTO THAT PERSONS HEART TO PURIFY...TO PROTECT...TO BLESS..AND FULLFILL THE > > WISHES OF THAT DEVOTEE...AND KRISHNA BHAKTHI DEVELOPS DAY BY DAY > > > > On 7/6/08, Manoj Kunniyur <kunniyurmanoj wrote: > >> > >> *Om Namo Narayanaya * > >> > >> ** > >> > >> * Respected Devotees, * > >> > >> ** > >> > >> * Could anybody describe the purpose of Buddha Avatar of > >> Lord Vishnu. In this you tube link they showed Gautama Buddha as Lord´s > >> incarnation. I am sure it is wrong. > >> *> >> > >> ** > >> > >> *Hare Guruvayurappa...* > >> > >> ** > >> > >> * Manoj Kunniyur* > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sreenivasanji and Nairji, Thanks alot for the kind information about Lord´s avatar. Manoj Kunniyur. --- On Tue, 7/8/08, SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasan wrote: SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasanRe: [Guruvayur] Buddha Avatarguruvayur Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 7:05 PM Chapter 3: KrÌ£sÌ£nÌ£a Is the Source of All Incarnations Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: ÅšrÄ«mad BhÄgavatam 1.3.24 tatahÌ£ kalau sampravrÌ£tte sammohÄya sura-dvisÌ£Äm buddho nÄmnÄñjana-sutahÌ£ kÄ«katÌ£esÌ£u bhavisÌ£yati SYNONYMS tatahÌ£ — thereafter; kalau — the age of Kali; sampravrÌ£tte — having ensued; sammohÄya — for the purpose of deluding; sura — the theists; dvisÌ£Äm — those who are envious; buddhahÌ£ — Lord Buddha; nÄmnÄ â€” of the name; añjana-sutahÌ£ — whose mother was AñjanÄ; kÄ«katÌ£esÌ£u — in the province of GayÄ (Bihar); bhavisÌ£yati — will take place. TRANSLATION Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga, the Lord will appear as Lord Buddha, the son of AñjanÄ, in the province of GayÄ, just for the purpose of deluding those who are envious of the faithful theist. PURPORT Lord Buddha, a powerful incarnation of the Personality of Godhead, appeared in the province of GayÄ (Bihar) as the son of AñjanÄ, and he preached his own conception of nonviolence and deprecated even the animal sacrifices sanctioned in the Vedas. At the time when Lord Buddha appeared, the people in general were atheistic and preferred animal flesh to anything else. On the plea of Vedic sacrifice, every place was practically turned into a slaughterhouse, and animal-killing was indulged in unrestrictedly. Lord Buddha preached nonviolence, taking pity on the poor animals. He preached that he did not believe in the tenets of the Vedas and stressed the adverse psychological effects incurred by animal-killing. Less intelligent men of the age of Kali, who had no faith in God, followed his principle, and for the time being they were trained in moral discipline and nonviolence, the preliminary steps for proceeding further on the path of God realization. He deluded the atheists because such atheists who followed his principles did not believe in God, but they kept their absolute faith in Lord Buddha, who himself was the incarnation of God. Thus the faithless people were made to believe in God in the form of Lord Buddha. That was the mercy of Lord Buddha: he made the faithless faithful to him. Killing of animals before the advent of Lord Buddha was the most prominent feature of the society. People claimed that these were Vedic sacrifices. When the Vedas are not accepted through the authoritative disciplic succession, the casual readers of the Vedas are misled by the flowery language of that system of knowledge. In the Bhagavad-gÄ«tÄ a comment has been made on such foolish scholars (avipaÅ›citahÌ£). The foolish scholars of Vedic literature who do not care to receive the transcendental message through the transcendental realized sources of disciplic succession are sure to be bewildered. To them, the ritualistic ceremonies are considered to be all in all. They have no depth of knowledge. According to the Bhagavad-gÄ«tÄ (15.15), vedaiÅ› ca sarvair aham eva vedyahÌ£: the whole system of the Vedas is to lead one gradually to the path of the Supreme Lord. The whole theme of Vedic literature is to know the Supreme Lord, the individual soul, the cosmic situation and the relation between all these items. When the relation is known, the relative function begins, and as a result of such a function the ultimate goal of life or going back to Godhead takes place in the easiest manner. Unfortunately, unauthorized scholars of the Vedas become captivated by the purificatory ceremonies only, and natural progress is thereby checked. To such bewildered persons of atheistic propensity, Lord Buddha is the emblem of theism. He therefore first of all wanted to check the habit of animal-killing. The animal-killers are dangerous elements on the path going back to Godhead. There are two types of animal-killers. The soul is also sometimes called the "animal" or the living being. Therefore, both the slaughterer of animals and those who have lost their identity of soul are animal-killers. MahÄrÄja ParÄ«ksÌ£it said that only the animal-killer cannot relish the transcendental message of the Supreme Lord. Therefore if people are to be educated to the path of Godhead, they must be taught first and foremost to stop the process of animal-killing as above mentioned. It is nonsensical to say that animal-killing has nothing to do with spiritual realization. By this dangerous theory many so-called sannyÄsÄ«s have sprung up by the grace of Kali-yuga who preach animal-killing under the garb of the Vedas. The subject matter has already been discussed in the conversation between Lord Caitanya and Maulana Chand Kazi Shaheb. The animal sacrifice as stated in the Vedas is different from the unrestricted animal-killing in the slaughterhouse. Because the asuras or the so-called scholars of Vedic literatures put forward the evidence of animal-killing in the Vedas, Lord Buddha superficially denied the authority of the Vedas. This rejection of the Vedas by Lord Buddha was adopted in order to save people from the vice of animal-killing as well as to save the poor animals from the slaughtering process of their big brothers who clamor for universal brotherhood, peace, justice and equity. There is no justice when there is animal-killing. Lord Buddha wanted to stop it completely, and therefore his cult of ahimÌsÄ was propagated not only in India but also outside the country. Technically Lord Buddha's philosophy is called atheistic because there is no acceptance of the Supreme Lord and because that system of philosophy denied the authority of the Vedas. But that is an act of camouflage by the Lord. Lord Buddha is the incarnation of Godhead. As such, he is the original propounder of Vedic knowledge. He therefore cannot reject Vedic philosophy. But he rejected it outwardly because the sura-dvisÌ£a, or the demons who are always envious of the devotees of Godhead, try to support cow-killing or animal-killing from the pages of the Vedas, and this is now being done by the modernized sannyÄsÄ«s. Lord Buddha had to reject the authority of the Vedas altogether. This is simply technical, and had it not been so he would not have been so accepted as the incarnation of Godhead. Nor would he have been worshiped in the transcendental songs of the poet Jayadeva, who is a VaisÌ£nÌ£ava ÄcÄrya. Lord Buddha preached the preliminary principles of the Vedas in a manner suitable for the time being (and so also did ÅšaÅ„karÄcÄrya) to establish the authority of the Vedas. Therefore both Lord Buddha and Ä€cÄrya ÅšaÅ„kara paved the path of theism, and VaisÌ£nÌ£ava ÄcÄryas, specifically Lord ÅšrÄ« Caitanya MahÄprabhu, led the people on the path towards a realization of going back to Godhead. We are glad that people are taking interest in the nonviolent movement of Lord Buddha. But will they take the matter very seriously and close the animal slaughterhouses altogether? If not, there is no meaning to the ahimÌsÄ cult. ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam was composed just prior to the beginning of the age of Kali (about five thousand years ago), and Lord Buddha appeared about twenty-six hundred years ago. Therefore in the ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam Lord Buddha is foretold. Such is the authority of this clear scripture. There are many such prophecies, and they are being fulfilled one after another. They will indicate the positive standing of ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam, which is without trace of mistake, illusion, cheating and imperfection, which are the four flaws of all conditioned souls. The liberated souls are above these flaws; therefore they can see and foretell things which are to take place on distant future dates. <<>> Copyright © The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International, Inc.His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami PrabhupÄda On 7/8/08, SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasan@ gmail.com> wrote: DEFNITLY BUDDHA IS ONE INCARNATION NAMELY 21ST INCARNATION. ..THIS IS MENTIONED IN SRIMAD BHAGAVATHAM FIRST CANTO 3RD CHAPTER...THIS IS WRITTEN IN BHAGAVATHAM EVEN FIVE THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE BUDDHA INCARNATED.. .THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER INCARNATION WHICH IS MENTIONED YEARS BEFORE THE INCARNATION THAT IS KALKI AVATHAR THE 22ND AVATHAR...TO KNOW ABOUT BHAGAVATHAM YOU PLEASE LOG ON TO THIS SITEhttp://www.bhagavat adharma.co. uk/ THER IS ENGLISH LECTURE IN BHAGAVATHAM THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL DESCRIPTION VERSE BY VERSE BY SRILA PRABHUPADHA IN ENGLISH WHICH YOU CAN READ ONLINE ...JUST WHEN ONE STARTS TO HEAR OR READ SRIMADBHAGAVATHAM KRISHNA IMMEDITALY ENTERS INTO THAT PERSONS HEART TO PURIFY...TO PROTECT...TO BLESS..AND FULLFILL THE WISHES OF THAT DEVOTEE...AND KRISHNA BHAKTHI DEVELOPS DAY BY DAY On 7/6/08, Manoj Kunniyur <kunniyurmanoj@ > wrote: Om Namo Narayanaya Respected Devotees, Could anybody describe the purpose of Buddha Avatar of Lord Vishnu. In this you tube link they showed Gautama Buddha as Lord´s incarnation. I am sure it is wrong. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=ciSJucB7LYU Hare Guruvayurappa. .. Manoj Kunniyur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 REALLY I MUST THANK U FOR GIVING THIS OPPURTUNITY TO TELL SOMETHING ABOUT KRISHNA .....THIS IS JUST MY LIFES MISSION TO MAKE PEOPLE TO COME CLOSER TO THEIR REAL GUARDIAN..REAL FRIEND ...REAL PROTECTOR...WHO IS NONE OTHER THAN THE GREAT BUTTER THIEF SRIKRISHNAN GURUVAYOORAPPAN...WHO REALLY STEALS HIS BHAKTHAS MIND AND PROTECTS HIM...REGARDING 9TH AVATHAR IT IS KING PRITHU..U CAN READ THAT IN THE ATTACHMENT I SEND YOU KRISHNA IS THE SOURCE OF ALL INCARNATION On 7/15/08, Manoj Kunniyur <kunniyurmanoj wrote: Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sreenivasanji and Nairji, Thanks alot for the kind information about Lord´s avatar. Manoj Kunniyur. --- On Tue, 7/8/08, SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasan wrote: SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasanRe: [Guruvayur] Buddha Avatarguruvayur Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 7:05 PM Chapter 3: KrÌ£sÌ£nÌ£a Is the Source of All Incarnations Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: ÅšrÄ«mad BhÄgavatam 1.3.24 tatahÌ£ kalau sampravrÌ£tte sammohÄya sura-dvisÌ£Äm buddho nÄmnÄñjana-sutahÌ£ kÄ«katÌ£esÌ£u bhavisÌ£yati SYNONYMS tatahÌ£ — thereafter; kalau — the age of Kali; sampravrÌ£tte — having ensued; sammohÄya — for the purpose of deluding; sura — the theists; dvisÌ£Äm — those who are envious; buddhahÌ£ — Lord Buddha; nÄmnÄ â€” of the name; añjana-sutahÌ£ — whose mother was AñjanÄ; kÄ«katÌ£esÌ£u — in the province of GayÄ (Bihar); bhavisÌ£yati — will take place. TRANSLATION Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga, the Lord will appear as Lord Buddha, the son of AñjanÄ, in the province of GayÄ, just for the purpose of deluding those who are envious of the faithful theist. PURPORT Lord Buddha, a powerful incarnation of the Personality of Godhead, appeared in the province of GayÄ (Bihar) as the son of AñjanÄ, and he preached his own conception of nonviolence and deprecated even the animal sacrifices sanctioned in the Vedas. At the time when Lord Buddha appeared, the people in general were atheistic and preferred animal flesh to anything else. On the plea of Vedic sacrifice, every place was practically turned into a slaughterhouse, and animal-killing was indulged in unrestrictedly. Lord Buddha preached nonviolence, taking pity on the poor animals. He preached that he did not believe in the tenets of the Vedas and stressed the adverse psychological effects incurred by animal-killing. Less intelligent men of the age of Kali, who had no faith in God, followed his principle, and for the time being they were trained in moral discipline and nonviolence, the preliminary steps for proceeding further on the path of God realization. He deluded the atheists because such atheists who followed his principles did not believe in God, but they kept their absolute faith in Lord Buddha, who himself was the incarnation of God. Thus the faithless people were made to believe in God in the form of Lord Buddha. That was the mercy of Lord Buddha: he made the faithless faithful to him. Killing of animals before the advent of Lord Buddha was the most prominent feature of the society. People claimed that these were Vedic sacrifices. When the Vedas are not accepted through the authoritative disciplic succession, the casual readers of the Vedas are misled by the flowery language of that system of knowledge. In the Bhagavad-gÄ«tÄ a comment has been made on such foolish scholars (avipaÅ›citahÌ£). The foolish scholars of Vedic literature who do not care to receive the transcendental message through the transcendental realized sources of disciplic succession are sure to be bewildered. To them, the ritualistic ceremonies are considered to be all in all. They have no depth of knowledge. According to the Bhagavad-gÄ«tÄ (15.15), vedaiÅ› ca sarvair aham eva vedyahÌ£: the whole system of the Vedas is to lead one gradually to the path of the Supreme Lord. The whole theme of Vedic literature is to know the Supreme Lord, the individual soul, the cosmic situation and the relation between all these items. When the relation is known, the relative function begins, and as a result of such a function the ultimate goal of life or going back to Godhead takes place in the easiest manner. Unfortunately, unauthorized scholars of the Vedas become captivated by the purificatory ceremonies only, and natural progress is thereby checked. To such bewildered persons of atheistic propensity, Lord Buddha is the emblem of theism. He therefore first of all wanted to check the habit of animal-killing. The animal-killers are dangerous elements on the path going back to Godhead. There are two types of animal-killers. The soul is also sometimes called the " animal " or the living being. Therefore, both the slaughterer of animals and those who have lost their identity of soul are animal-killers. MahÄrÄja ParÄ«ksÌ£it said that only the animal-killer cannot relish the transcendental message of the Supreme Lord. Therefore if people are to be educated to the path of Godhead, they must be taught first and foremost to stop the process of animal-killing as above mentioned. It is nonsensical to say that animal-killing has nothing to do with spiritual realization. By this dangerous theory many so-called sannyÄsÄ«s have sprung up by the grace of Kali-yuga who preach animal-killing under the garb of the Vedas. The subject matter has already been discussed in the conversation between Lord Caitanya and Maulana Chand Kazi Shaheb. The animal sacrifice as stated in the Vedas is different from the unrestricted animal-killing in the slaughterhouse. Because the asuras or the so-called scholars of Vedic literatures put forward the evidence of animal-killing in the Vedas, Lord Buddha superficially denied the authority of the Vedas. This rejection of the Vedas by Lord Buddha was adopted in order to save people from the vice of animal-killing as well as to save the poor animals from the slaughtering process of their big brothers who clamor for universal brotherhood, peace, justice and equity. There is no justice when there is animal-killing. Lord Buddha wanted to stop it completely, and therefore his cult of ahimÌsÄ was propagated not only in India but also outside the country. Technically Lord Buddha's philosophy is called atheistic because there is no acceptance of the Supreme Lord and because that system of philosophy denied the authority of the Vedas. But that is an act of camouflage by the Lord. Lord Buddha is the incarnation of Godhead. As such, he is the original propounder of Vedic knowledge. He therefore cannot reject Vedic philosophy. But he rejected it outwardly because the sura-dvisÌ£a, or the demons who are always envious of the devotees of Godhead, try to support cow-killing or animal-killing from the pages of the Vedas, and this is now being done by the modernized sannyÄsÄ«s. Lord Buddha had to reject the authority of the Vedas altogether. This is simply technical, and had it not been so he would not have been so accepted as the incarnation of Godhead. Nor would he have been worshiped in the transcendental songs of the poet Jayadeva, who is a VaisÌ£nÌ£ava ÄcÄrya. Lord Buddha preached the preliminary principles of the Vedas in a manner suitable for the time being (and so also did ÅšaÅ„karÄcÄrya) to establish the authority of the Vedas. Therefore both Lord Buddha and Ä€cÄrya ÅšaÅ„kara paved the path of theism, and VaisÌ£nÌ£ava ÄcÄryas, specifically Lord ÅšrÄ« Caitanya MahÄprabhu, led the people on the path towards a realization of going back to Godhead. We are glad that people are taking interest in the nonviolent movement of Lord Buddha. But will they take the matter very seriously and close the animal slaughterhouses altogether? If not, there is no meaning to the ahimÌsÄ cult. ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam was composed just prior to the beginning of the age of Kali (about five thousand years ago), and Lord Buddha appeared about twenty-six hundred years ago. Therefore in the ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam Lord Buddha is foretold. Such is the authority of this clear scripture. There are many such prophecies, and they are being fulfilled one after another. They will indicate the positive standing of ÅšrÄ«mad-BhÄgavatam, which is without trace of mistake, illusion, cheating and imperfection, which are the four flaws of all conditioned souls. The liberated souls are above these flaws; therefore they can see and foretell things which are to take place on distant future dates. <<>> Copyright © The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International, Inc. His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami PrabhupÄda On 7/8/08, SREENIVASAN SUBRAMANIAM <drsreenivasan@ gmail.com> wrote: DEFNITLY BUDDHA IS ONE INCARNATION NAMELY 21ST INCARNATION. ..THIS IS MENTIONED IN SRIMAD BHAGAVATHAM FIRST CANTO 3RD CHAPTER...THIS IS WRITTEN IN BHAGAVATHAM EVEN FIVE THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE BUDDHA INCARNATED.. .THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER INCARNATION WHICH IS MENTIONED YEARS BEFORE THE INCARNATION THAT IS KALKI AVATHAR THE 22ND AVATHAR...TO KNOW ABOUT BHAGAVATHAM YOU PLEASE LOG ON TO THIS SITEhttp://www.bhagavat adharma.co. uk/ THER IS ENGLISH LECTURE IN BHAGAVATHAM THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL DESCRIPTION VERSE BY VERSE BY SRILA PRABHUPADHA IN ENGLISH WHICH YOU CAN READ ONLINE ...JUST WHEN ONE STARTS TO HEAR OR READ SRIMADBHAGAVATHAM KRISHNA IMMEDITALY ENTERS INTO THAT PERSONS HEART TO PURIFY...TO PROTECT...TO BLESS..AND FULLFILL THE WISHES OF THAT DEVOTEE...AND KRISHNA BHAKTHI DEVELOPS DAY BY DAY On 7/6/08, Manoj Kunniyur <kunniyurmanoj@ > wrote: Om Namo Narayanaya Respected Devotees, Could anybody describe the purpose of Buddha Avatar of Lord Vishnu. In this you tube link they showed Gautama Buddha as Lord´s incarnation. I am sure it is wrong. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=ciSJucB7LYU Hare Guruvayurappa. .. Manoj Kunniyur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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