Namasthe- Ramayanaparam 2

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Dear all,

 

 

 

It is interesting to see how many quadruplets represents the four

brotherss of Ayodhya.

 

One

 

Srirama is incarnation of Vishnu himself.

 

Lakshmana is incarnation of the great serpenbt Aadisheshan

 

Bharatha is the incarnation of Sudarshana Chakram

 

Sathrunghna is the inarnation of Conch shell or Shamkhu.

 

Two

 

There is another version which says they are the avataars of four vedaas.

 

Srirama is incarnation of Rig-Veda.

 

Lakshmana, the close follower of Srirama is the incarnation of Yajurveda.

 

Bharatha, who always sings Srirama's glory ( he sang it continuously

for 14 years) is the incarnation of Samaveda

 

Satrughna who obeys the command of other three brothers is the

incarnation of Atharva veda.

 

Three.

 

Another interesting explanation is of Pranavam.

 

The Praanavaam AUM itself is Sri Rama.

 

First letter A is Lakshmana

 

Second letter U is Bharatha

 

Third letter M is Sathrughna

 

Four.

 

One more which says

 

Srirama represents Dharma,

 

Lakshmana represents Artha,

 

Bharatha represents Kama

 

and Sathrughna represents Moksha.

 

Whatever they represent, we know that Rama's story purifies our mind

and clears our thoughts, melts our hearts, and soaks us in Bhakthi.

 

Regards and prayers

 

savitri

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Om Namo Narayanaya

 

Namaskaram Savitri ji

 

Is not Shatrughna associated with Sudarshana chakram? For example,

Sudarshana chakram is more associated with the Shatrugna temple which

is part of the Nalambalam in Kerala. Sudarshana mantra is the one used

at Shatrugna temple.The melshanti at this temple told me so. One

important vazhipadu here is to offer a Sudarshana chakram at the

sobhana padi of the Lord, after prayers, which is believed to be an

offering to heal and cure. Another important vazhipadu is Sudarshana

pushpanjali.

 

Baratha is Sangameswaran. Is He not associated with the conch?

 

Even 2 days ago, I was on this Nalambala yatra on my way back from

Sabarimala before I reached Guruvayur. What surprises me to this day is

why did our elders teach us (is it because they also did not know

this?) only about Sri Rama as Almighty and His brothers were never

accorded 'status' of a God, though divinity was associated with them?

But today Nalambala yatra is gaining momentum. There is great activity

at each of these temples. Undoubtedly each of these kshetrams have

great saanidhyam. I have been there earlier too.

 

Take Bharata kshetram at Irinjalakuda. The uruli used for nivedyam has

only one 'ring' (handle) on one side to be used to lift it. The other

side is believed to be lifted by Sri Anjaneya. Though I read this many

years ago, I got this re-confirmed again at the temple kitchen now. I

believe science fails at one point.

 

Om Sri Raamaaya Namah

Om Sri Lakshmanaya Namah

Om Sangamesaaya Namah

Om Shatrughnaaya Namah

 

The more knowledgeable may pardon me for any errors that might have

crept into this mail.

 

Best wishes

R. Kasthuri Rangan

 

 

 

Savitri Puram wrote:

 

 

Dear all,

 

It is interesting to see how many quadruplets represents the four

brotherss of Ayodhya.

 

One

 

Srirama is incarnation of Vishnu himself.

 

Lakshmana is incarnation of the great serpenbt Aadisheshan

 

Bharatha is the incarnation of Sudarshana Chakram

 

Sathrunghna is the inarnation of Conch shell or Shamkhu.

 

Two

 

There is another version which says they are the avataars of four

vedaas.

 

Srirama is incarnation of Rig-Veda.

 

Lakshmana, the close follower of Srirama is the incarnation of

Yajurveda.

 

Bharatha, who always sings Srirama's glory ( he sang it continuously

for 14 years) is the incarnation of Samaveda

 

Satrughna who obeys the command of other three brothers is the

incarnation of Atharva veda.

 

Three.

 

Another interesting explanation is of Pranavam.

 

The Praanavaam AUM itself is Sri Rama.

 

First letter A is Lakshmana

 

Second letter U is Bharatha

 

Third letter M is Sathrughna

 

Four.

 

One more which says

 

Srirama represents Dharma,

 

Lakshmana represents Artha,

 

Bharatha represents Kama

 

and Sathrughna represents Moksha.

 

Whatever they represent, we know that Rama's story purifies our mind

and clears our thoughts, melts our hearts, and soaks us in Bhakthi.

 

Regards and prayers

 

savitri

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Dear Kasturi Ranganji,

 

What you said is true and I have heard and read both ways. When I saw your mail, I did some more reading to see whether any specific verse in Valmiki Ramayanam or Adyatma Ramayanam by Vyaasa deva tells about this. But I could not find any sloka explaining this part. But in the interpretation or purport by Dr. Hnaumantha Rao, he mentions that as per Valmiki Ramayana, (I am quoting His words:)

 

" This is a PURNA AVATAR ( Complete incarnation) Rama of Mahavishnu himself, Lakshmana that of Adhisesha (couch) Satrugna the aspect of Panchajanya (conch) and Bharatha the aspect of Sudarsana (Chakra). "

 

Also one encyclopaedia tells the same thing. I have given the link below.

 

" Bharatha is considered to be born in the aspect of the Sudarshana Chakra, the most famous of Vishnu's Panchayudhas. "

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Bharata-(Ramayana)

 

But what you said about the Naalambalam also makes very much sense to me. It is strange that I did not even look up before writing. I have heard Bharatha as sudarsana Chakra's incarnation since childhood. So it did nto occur to me to do somemore reading. But now I saw in several places including Bhaktaranjini translation that Bharatha is samkhu and Sathrugna is chakra.

 

Dear Ranganji, thanks for bringing this. There is every chance that I am wrong. I will try to do more research and we can ask KVGji also about this. It would have been nice to see the verse in Valmiki Ramayanam or adhyatma Ramayanam to completely erase our doubt.

 

Dear devotees, I may have mentioned that wrong. Please excuse me for the same.

 

Regards and prayers

 

Savitri