Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 namo narayana Respected devotees of Lord Guruvayoorappan, On the lines of what Saroja amma and Sri Muralidharji have written I would like to share my experience Being born in a fairly religious family, I worshipped all the gods (anya devathas), however my faith was based on blind traditions, fear and my desires. I would worship Goddess Saraswathi for my exams, and worship Lord Ganapathy for a difficult project, I was terrified of Lord Shanidevan and hence also prayed to him on saturdays. My worship was more like a business transaction, "fulfill me my desires and I will do such and such puja, go to the temple" and so on. After completing my B.Tech, I left for the US to complete my PhD. Here I was all alone without any support, there was no family, no friends and everything was alien. I still would continue my "business deals" with "the gods" and thought that all was nice. However in my second year, I had to deal with a very serious emotional as well as a serious academic problem, I had no support system. I was totally depressed and helpless and was looking for some divine help, but this time my "business deals" failed to provide me with love and devotion .. I was searching for some divine power with which I could relate personally with love and devotion. At this time Lord Narayana sent me an accquitance (whom I knew for a long time), he was a follower of HH Srila Prabhupada and he then introduced me to the process of serving Lord Narayana as a devotee and not as an asker. For the first time in my life, I could worshio Lord Narayana with sincere devotion and love and not out of fear or to follow some tradition. The worship of "anyaa devathaas" slowly faded as Lord Narayana had stolen my heart. Now He allowed me to exclusively worship Him without any guilt or fear of offending the other gods. However I still would continually ask for my desires to be fullfilled to Lord Narayana. As I was nearing the completion of my PhD (August 2008) I was looking for a research job in the US. But due to the economic slowdown jobs were hard to find, especially for international students. I was very frustrated and depressed with the state of my career, despite being from a very reputed university I had no career offers even after one year of searching. I had applied to almost all the suitable industrial positions and even got selected for interview, but nothing seemed to work. Then one morning during my puja, I made up my mind, I prayed to Him, "Since I have surrendered to You, You have every right to put me in any situation possible, I know that you care more about me that I do for myself, and I am sure I will be in safe hands whatever you decide to do with my life"- I then decided that I will never make any specific demands from Him and just continually enjoy serving Him daily by singing His names and His stotrams. Just after a week, I got a phone call from a major technical company and said that they liked my resume which I had posted on a technical career portal and asked me if I could come for a onsite-interview in a weeks time. With His names on my mind, I went for my interview and with His grace I was selected for a researcher's position in the same evening. I had got a job offer even before I defended my PhD thesis! I was astounded as how He works, I had never even applied for this position and He saw to it that I got this job. It is just two months I am in my new job, I like my research and my career prospects look in good shape. From all this experience I have learned that He knows the best, and hence there is no reason to tarnish the bliss of serving Him by asking Him to fulfill my mundane desires. Afterall, now I can say that this is my last "business deal" with Him, I will continually chant and sing His glories unconditionally and He will in turn give me love and devotion in this life and after death in Sri Vaikuntham. Certainly there is no profitable deal than this. Sincerely, Kamlesh --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18 wrote: Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18Re: [Guruvayur] "Beleive in One God" > STOP WORSHIPING DUMMY GODSguruvayur Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 9:12 PM Very well expressed and poignant.I suppose you are quite young judging from the fact that you mentioned about yuou exams etc. and it is a great blessing that you have received janan at this age. It was a muslim who gave you the right knowledge is only icidental. The Lord comes in all forms and shapes to lead one whom He had chosen to grace. When He has deided to shower His grace there is no stopping Him.In Gita He says 'bahuSaakha hi ananthaaScha budDhiH avyavasaayinaam. .' Till your mind gets fixed on one object of meditation may it be any form of he Lord, it runs in all directions not knowing what to hold on as in wilderness or caught in a flood .Once th faith is settled on one form there is no more running around and a hand is there to hold on.But when and how that hand is extended depends on one's past karma and upon the will of God. All important things happen by chance in our life as it happened to you. But what we see as chance is really he will of the Lord. He plans everything when and how it should happen.My life itself is an example.I was also worshipping all deities once , say till about 15 years ago but through God's grace I was blessed with firm faith on Lord Nrayana and fortunately, through His will, I also met with a guru who showed me the right patha and since then I never looked back. 'VasudevaH sarvam ithi,' is the motto I am trying to follow and has been successful to a great extent. Of course I worshipHim in all Hifs forms like Krishna, Rama ,Narasimha, Venkatesvara etc. as all these arethe fdifferent costumes of the same Lord, as we love all the photos of our children in different attires. After that there is immense peace that have descended on me and noting affects now as it did once . True faith hs no place for fear and you are right there. when you love your mother or father you dont fear them. Fer\ar and love cannot coexist. The Lord knows all your good and bad aspcects of character andyou dont have to be afraid of Him as He is your innerself. One is not afraid of oneself. Fear comes only when you see Him as someone outside and different. About japas manthras etc they are all prescribed for the concentration of mind.It is k like dhyana in different form.Onec you have chosen your pbject of love nad devotion in any form chantiing the manthras and sthothras are lfor the joy they bring as one gets when calling his child or the one he loves by different endearing names and the joy in talking about their doings. I always used to advise my students to have one form of deity, let it be Naryana, Siva,Devi, Ganesa. Muruga etc., but stick to it.There is only one God and not various and He comes to you in whicheverform you think of Him.This Krishna Himself makeds clear in Gita by saying, 'ye api anya dhevathaa bhakthaah yajanthe SraddhayaanvithaaH the api maameva kountheya yajanthi aviDhipporvakam. ' meaning that all who wrorship other deities worship Him alone though not strictly in the way prescribed. He further says that He makes their faith stronger of those who worship any form with full faith. After I have become a paramaikaanthi, I do not observe ant vratham or propitiate the navagrahas etc. becasue he s the power behind all and He stipulates only that pathram 'pushpam phalam thoyam yo me bhakthyaa prayacChathi thdhaham bhakthyupahrtham aSnaami prayathaathmanah. ' What ever is offered with devotion. may it be a leaf. a flower. agruit or water, He accepts that with pleasure.Purandarad asa has said in his krthi, 'sakalagrahphala neene sarasijaaksha, '' O Lord with lotus-eyes You are the power of teh all planets..' Butthe most important requisite for His grace is bhakthi which is not mere worshipor following the rituals etc. but unalloyed love for the Lord as someon closer than the closest to you as you own inner self to whom you can bare all your feelings good or bad and offer all your actions, right or wrong.then he leads you by hand. Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit. www.freewebs. com/asrama3 --- On Sat, 11/22/08, muralidhar rajgopal <muralidhar_y2k2001@ .co. in> wrote: muralidhar rajgopal <muralidhar_y2k2001@ .co. in>[Guruvayur] "Beleive in One God" > STOP WORSHIPING DUMMY GODSguruvayur@grou ps.comSaturday, November 22, 2008, 12:56 AM Hi Members I would like to share few things with all of our Group members of Lord Guruvayoorappa. I thought of writing the Mail from past 5-6 months, but not been able to do so, due to hectic work schedule and my exams, Even though i passed out Degree with good marks , i never had better luck on my shoulder, Things had gone from Bad to Worst, I use to visit all the temples, churches , but with no results, i used to believe in all Gods and use to fear about gods rather than loving them. All suddenly changed, when i met a Muslim Guy, on my way to Guruvayoor, that was my First trip to Guruvayoor, He explained me the Benefit of "Dhyan" and he asked me to do the Dhyan every Day without fail on Lord Krishna, It was really strange to me at that time, to hear from a Muslim about Dhyan Funda, but it started slowly working, It was difficult at first instance, i used to do hardly for 5 to 10 mins , than everything got turned on my way, Now i never use to visit any temples, I am believer of One God now, and i visist only one Temple that is Guruvayoor, I got a good job, now am in UK , never imagined in my career that i will reach in the position where i feel satisfied and other feel proud of me. Some time feel, god is misterious , And my God Lord Krishna is so misterious he has several misterious way , we cant question him, because he has his own ways and his ways is not the ways which we are leading, and even if we i try to question him he says innside my heart "My Son" , so lovely and i feel as if god is looking at me all the time, the things i do , the things i care and i hate, Infact everything. I still cant understand even though i wont question there belief, why the people beleive in Mantras, Gods Goddesses, when only one God exist in this universe and he is One, There may hundreds of scientific answers we may have for why we pray to all gods, but that any way dosent makes any scence , if the person who truely beleives in Bhagavat Gita. Why the people still fear about Gods, Say an example of Shanideva, we so scared of him, i can see people in hundreds queing up on Saturday to offer there offerings, and i do asked some people, the answer I get is not because of bhakthi they are offering, because of fear. Do We need to Fear the God, The God heart is filled with love, nothing but love, no matter whatever sin we do , he forgive us, Why cant people take inspiration from Valmiki, even though he is the biggest sinner in front of his own wife and children, but still he was able to closer to God STOP FEARING GOD< STOP BELEIVING IN THOUSANDS OF GOD>ONLY ONE GOD EXIST > "Om Namo Narayanaya" Jai Shri Krishna Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Kamleshji, Very nicely written. Thanks for sharing. May Guruvayoorappan bless you. Jai Sree Krishna--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Veryytterium <veryytterium wrote: Veryytterium <veryytterium[Guruvayur] My business deals with godguruvayur Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 6:16 PM namo narayana Respected devotees of Lord Guruvayoorappan, On the lines of what Saroja amma and Sri Muralidharji have written I would like to share my experience Being born in a fairly religious family, I worshipped all the gods (anya devathas), however my faith was based on blind traditions, fear and my desires. I would worship Goddess Saraswathi for my exams, and worship Lord Ganapathy for a difficult project, I was terrified of Lord Shanidevan and hence also prayed to him on saturdays. My worship was more like a business transaction, "fulfill me my desires and I will do such and such puja, go to the temple" and so on. After completing my B.Tech, I left for the US to complete my PhD. Here I was all alone without any support, there was no family, no friends and everything was alien. I still would continue my "business deals" with "the gods" and thought that all was nice. However in my second year, I had to deal with a very serious emotional as well as a serious academic problem, I had no support system. I was totally depressed and helpless and was looking for some divine help, but this time my "business deals" failed to provide me with love and devotion .. I was searching for some divine power with which I could relate personally with love and devotion. At this time Lord Narayana sent me an accquitance (whom I knew for a long time), he was a follower of HH Srila Prabhupada and he then introduced me to the process of serving Lord Narayana as a devotee and not as an asker. For the first time in my life, I could worshio Lord Narayana with sincere devotion and love and not out of fear or to follow some tradition. The worship of "anyaa devathaas" slowly faded as Lord Narayana had stolen my heart. Now He allowed me to exclusively worship Him without any guilt or fear of offending the other gods. However I still would continually ask for my desires to be fullfilled to Lord Narayana. As I was nearing the completion of my PhD (August 2008) I was looking for a research job in the US. But due to the economic slowdown jobs were hard to find, especially for international students. I was very frustrated and depressed with the state of my career, despite being from a very reputed university I had no career offers even after one year of searching. I had applied to almost all the suitable industrial positions and even got selected for interview, but nothing seemed to work. Then one morning during my puja, I made up my mind, I prayed to Him, "Since I have surrendered to You, You have every right to put me in any situation possible, I know that you care more about me that I do for myself, and I am sure I will be in safe hands whatever you decide to do with my life"- I then decided that I will never make any specific demands from Him and just continually enjoy serving Him daily by singing His names and His stotrams. Just after a week, I got a phone call from a major technical company and said that they liked my resume which I had posted on a technical career portal and asked me if I could come for a onsite-interview in a weeks time. With His names on my mind, I went for my interview and with His grace I was selected for a researcher's position in the same evening. I had got a job offer even before I defended my PhD thesis! I was astounded as how He works, I had never even applied for this position and He saw to it that I got this job. It is just two months I am in my new job, I like my research and my career prospects look in good shape. From all this experience I have learned that He knows the best, and hence there is no reason to tarnish the bliss of serving Him by asking Him to fulfill my mundane desires. Afterall, now I can say that this is my last "business deal" with Him, I will continually chant and sing His glories unconditionally and He will in turn give me love and devotion in this life and after death in Sri Vaikuntham. Certainly there is no profitable deal than this. Sincerely, Kamlesh --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18 > wrote: Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18 >Re: [Guruvayur] "Beleive in One God" > STOP WORSHIPING DUMMY GODSguruvayur@grou ps.comFriday, November 21, 2008, 9:12 PM Very well expressed and poignant.I suppose you are quite young judging from the fact that you mentioned about yuou exams etc. and it is a great blessing that you have received janan at this age. It was a muslim who gave you the right knowledge is only icidental. The Lord comes in all forms and shapes to lead one whom He had chosen to grace. When He has deided to shower His grace there is no stopping Him.In Gita He says 'bahuSaakha hi ananthaaScha budDhiH avyavasaayinaam. .' Till your mind gets fixed on one object of meditation may it be any form of he Lord, it runs in all directions not knowing what to hold on as in wilderness or caught in a flood .Once th faith is settled on one form there is no more running around and a hand is there to hold on.But when and how that hand is extended depends on one's past karma and upon the will of God. All important things happen by chance in our life as it happened to you. But what we see as chance is really he will of the Lord. He plans everything when and how it should happen.My life itself is an example.I was also worshipping all deities once , say till about 15 years ago but through God's grace I was blessed with firm faith on Lord Nrayana and fortunately, through His will, I also met with a guru who showed me the right patha and since then I never looked back. 'VasudevaH sarvam ithi,' is the motto I am trying to follow and has been successful to a great extent. Of course I worshipHim in all Hifs forms like Krishna, Rama ,Narasimha, Venkatesvara etc. as all these arethe fdifferent costumes of the same Lord, as we love all the photos of our children in different attires. After that there is immense peace that have descended on me and noting affects now as it did once . True faith hs no place for fear and you are right there. when you love your mother or father you dont fear them. Fer\ar and love cannot coexist. The Lord knows all your good and bad aspcects of character andyou dont have to be afraid of Him as He is your innerself. One is not afraid of oneself. Fear comes only when you see Him as someone outside and different. About japas manthras etc they are all prescribed for the concentration of mind.It is k like dhyana in different form.Onec you have chosen your pbject of love nad devotion in any form chantiing the manthras and sthothras are lfor the joy they bring as one gets when calling his child or the one he loves by different endearing names and the joy in talking about their doings. I always used to advise my students to have one form of deity, let it be Naryana, Siva,Devi, Ganesa. Muruga etc., but stick to it.There is only one God and not various and He comes to you in whicheverform you think of Him.This Krishna Himself makeds clear in Gita by saying, 'ye api anya dhevathaa bhakthaah yajanthe SraddhayaanvithaaH the api maameva kountheya yajanthi aviDhipporvakam. ' meaning that all who wrorship other deities worship Him alone though not strictly in the way prescribed. He further says that He makes their faith stronger of those who worship any form with full faith. After I have become a paramaikaanthi, I do not observe ant vratham or propitiate the navagrahas etc. becasue he s the power behind all and He stipulates only that pathram 'pushpam phalam thoyam yo me bhakthyaa prayacChathi thdhaham bhakthyupahrtham aSnaami prayathaathmanah. ' What ever is offered with devotion. may it be a leaf. a flower. agruit or water, He accepts that with pleasure.Purandarad asa has said in his krthi, 'sakalagrahphala neene sarasijaaksha, '' O Lord with lotus-eyes You are the power of teh all planets..' Butthe most important requisite for His grace is bhakthi which is not mere worshipor following the rituals etc. but unalloyed love for the Lord as someon closer than the closest to you as you own inner self to whom you can bare all your feelings good or bad and offer all your actions, right or wrong.then he leads you by hand. Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit. www.freewebs. com/asrama3 --- On Sat, 11/22/08, muralidhar rajgopal <muralidhar_y2k2001@ .co. in> wrote: muralidhar rajgopal <muralidhar_y2k2001@ .co. in>[Guruvayur] "Beleive in One God" > STOP WORSHIPING DUMMY GODSguruvayur@grou ps.comSaturday, November 22, 2008, 12:56 AM Hi Members I would like to share few things with all of our Group members of Lord Guruvayoorappa. I thought of writing the Mail from past 5-6 months, but not been able to do so, due to hectic work schedule and my exams, Even though i passed out Degree with good marks , i never had better luck on my shoulder, Things had gone from Bad to Worst, I use to visit all the temples, churches , but with no results, i used to believe in all Gods and use to fear about gods rather than loving them. All suddenly changed, when i met a Muslim Guy, on my way to Guruvayoor, that was my First trip to Guruvayoor, He explained me the Benefit of "Dhyan" and he asked me to do the Dhyan every Day without fail on Lord Krishna, It was really strange to me at that time, to hear from a Muslim about Dhyan Funda, but it started slowly working, It was difficult at first instance, i used to do hardly for 5 to 10 mins , than everything got turned on my way, Now i never use to visit any temples, I am believer of One God now, and i visist only one Temple that is Guruvayoor, I got a good job, now am in UK , never imagined in my career that i will reach in the position where i feel satisfied and other feel proud of me. Some time feel, god is misterious , And my God Lord Krishna is so misterious he has several misterious way , we cant question him, because he has his own ways and his ways is not the ways which we are leading, and even if we i try to question him he says innside my heart "My Son" , so lovely and i feel as if god is looking at me all the time, the things i do , the things i care and i hate, Infact everything. I still cant understand even though i wont question there belief, why the people beleive in Mantras, Gods Goddesses, when only one God exist in this universe and he is One, There may hundreds of scientific answers we may have for why we pray to all gods, but that any way dosent makes any scence , if the person who truely beleives in Bhagavat Gita. Why the people still fear about Gods, Say an example of Shanideva, we so scared of him, i can see people in hundreds queing up on Saturday to offer there offerings, and i do asked some people, the answer I get is not because of bhakthi they are offering, because of fear. Do We need to Fear the God, The God heart is filled with love, nothing but love, no matter whatever sin we do , he forgive us, Why cant people take inspiration from Valmiki, even though he is the biggest sinner in front of his own wife and children, but still he was able to closer to God STOP FEARING GOD< STOP BELEIVING IN THOUSANDS OF GOD>ONLY ONE GOD EXIST > "Om Namo Narayanaya" Jai Shri Krishna Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Dear Kamaleshji, It was very nice of you to share your experience of Bhagavan's kindness. At your age, to have such an attitude of complete surrender shows how blessed you are. To be honest with you I feel so happy to know that young people like you, Sunilji and many others in our group are there to spread the glory of Bhagavan with energy and enthusiasm. Any business deal with Him is alright Kamaleshji because, he will change our attitude along with blessing us with the business deal we asked for. What did He do to you? He gave you the best job and he changed your attitude to total surrender! I will tell you the end result of both Dhruvji's and Prahladjis prayers. Dhruvji approached Bhagavan to fulfill his materialistic wish and what did Bhagavan do? He gave him everything he asked for and moksham. Actually when he was given what he wanted, his attitude was completely changed and at that point, he only wanted Bhagavan. Bhagavan makes even a business deal, a spiritual deal! That is His greatness. Prahlaada did not pray for anything other than God Himself. Still He gave him the kingdom, all material anugrahaas and then moksham also. Of course Prahladji did not want anything, but Bhagavan's nature is to give everything to his Bhaktha who comes to him with total surrender. Melpatthoor had a deal with Bhagavan to cure his arthritis. By the time he was ready to write the 100th chapter " agre pashyaami " . he did not care about his illness, but was enjoying the bliss of divya kaishora vaesham. Bhagavan gave him health, fame, money, all material blessings. But Melpatthur wanted only Bhagavan. Jnanaanaananda Saraswathi says: " Approach Bhagavan for anything and everything. Go to Him, when you are sad, go to him when you are happy, go to him when you want something, go to Him when you are in pain. Go to Him when you do not want anything also. Finally you will reach a stage when you want only Him " . I wrote this only to tell you how happy I am to read your mail and this is not meant to contradict your great attitude of total surrender and not asking for anything specific. I just want to bring the point that if we can approach Him for any reason, we are blessed. May Guruvayurappan bless you to evolve spiritually every day and keep you close to Him! Regards and prayers savitri On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Veryytterium <veryytterium wrote: namo narayana Respected devotees of Lord Guruvayoorappan, On the lines of what Saroja amma and Sri Muralidharji have written I would like to share my experience Being born in a fairly religious family, I worshipped all the gods (anya devathas), however my faith was based on blind traditions, fear and my desires. I would worship Goddess Saraswathi for my exams, and worship Lord Ganapathy for a difficult project, I was terrified of Lord Shanidevan and hence also prayed to him on saturdays. My worship was more like a business transaction, " fulfill me my desires and I will do such and such puja, go to the temple " and so on. After completing my B.Tech, I left for the US to complete my PhD. Here I was all alone without any support, there was no family, no friends and everything was alien. I still would continue my " business deals " with " the gods " and thought that all was nice. However in my second year, I had to deal with a very serious emotional as well as a serious academic problem, I had no support system. I was totally depressed and helpless and was looking for some divine help, but this time my " business deals " failed to provide me with love and devotion .. I was searching for some divine power with which I could relate personally with love and devotion. At this time Lord Narayana sent me an accquitance (whom I knew for a long time), he was a follower of HH Srila Prabhupada and he then introduced me to the process of serving Lord Narayana as a devotee and not as an asker. For the first time in my life, I could worshio Lord Narayana with sincere devotion and love and not out of fear or to follow some tradition. The worship of " anyaa devathaas " slowly faded as Lord Narayana had stolen my heart. Now He allowed me to exclusively worship Him without any guilt or fear of offending the other gods. However I still would continually ask for my desires to be fullfilled to Lord Narayana. As I was nearing the completion of my PhD (August 2008) I was looking for a research job in the US. But due to the economic slowdown jobs were hard to find, especially for international students. I was very frustrated and depressed with the state of my career, despite being from a very reputed university I had no career offers even after one year of searching. I had applied to almost all the suitable industrial positions and even got selected for interview, but nothing seemed to work. Then one morning during my puja, I made up my mind, I prayed to Him, " Since I have surrendered to You, You have every right to put me in any situation possible, I know that you care more about me that I do for myself, and I am sure I will be in safe hands whatever you decide to do with my life " - I then decided that I will never make any specific demands from Him and just continually enjoy serving Him daily by singing His names and His stotrams. Just after a week, I got a phone call from a major technical company and said that they liked my resume which I had posted on a technical career portal and asked me if I could come for a onsite-interview in a weeks time. With His names on my mind, I went for my interview and with His grace I was selected for a researcher's position in the same evening. I had got a job offer even before I defended my PhD thesis! I was astounded as how He works, I had never even applied for this position and He saw to it that I got this job. It is just two months I am in my new job, I like my research and my career prospects look in good shape. From all this experience I have learned that He knows the best, and hence there is no reason to tarnish the bliss of serving Him by asking Him to fulfill my mundane desires. Afterall, now I can say that this is my last " business deal " with Him, I will continually chant and sing His glories unconditionally and He will in turn give me love and devotion in this life and after death in Sri Vaikuntham. Certainly there is no profitable deal than this. Sincerely, Kamlesh --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18 wrote: Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18Re: [Guruvayur] " Beleive in One God " > STOP WORSHIPING DUMMY GODS guruvayur Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 9:12 PM Very well expressed and poignant.I suppose you are quite young judging from the fact that you mentioned about yuou exams etc. and it is a great blessing that you have received janan at this age. It was a muslim who gave you the right knowledge is only icidental. The Lord comes in all forms and shapes to lead one whom He had chosen to grace. When He has deided to shower His grace there is no stopping Him.In Gita He says 'bahuSaakha hi ananthaaScha budDhiH avyavasaayinaam. .' Till your mind gets fixed on one object of meditation may it be any form of he Lord, it runs in all directions not knowing what to hold on as in wilderness or caught in a flood .Once th faith is settled on one form there is no more running around and a hand is there to hold on.But when and how that hand is extended depends on one's past karma and upon the will of God. All important things happen by chance in our life as it happened to you. But what we see as chance is really he will of the Lord. He plans everything when and how it should happen.My life itself is an example.I was also worshipping all deities once , say till about 15 years ago but through God's grace I was blessed with firm faith on Lord Nrayana and fortunately, through His will, I also met with a guru who showed me the right patha and since then I never looked back. 'VasudevaH sarvam ithi,' is the motto I am trying to follow and has been successful to a great extent. Of course I worshipHim in all Hifs forms like Krishna, Rama ,Narasimha, Venkatesvara etc. as all these arethe fdifferent costumes of the same Lord, as we love all the photos of our children in different attires. After that there is immense peace that have descended on me and noting affects now as it did once . True faith hs no place for fear and you are right there. when you love your mother or father you dont fear them. Fer\ar and love cannot coexist. The Lord knows all your good and bad aspcects of character andyou dont have to be afraid of Him as He is your innerself. One is not afraid of oneself. Fear comes only when you see Him as someone outside and different. About japas manthras etc they are all prescribed for the concentration of mind.It is k like dhyana in different form.Onec you have chosen your pbject of love nad devotion in any form chantiing the manthras and sthothras are lfor the joy they bring as one gets when calling his child or the one he loves by different endearing names and the joy in talking about their doings. I always used to advise my students to have one form of deity, let it be Naryana, Siva,Devi, Ganesa. Muruga etc., but stick to it.There is only one God and not various and He comes to you in whicheverform you think of Him.This Krishna Himself makeds clear in Gita by saying, 'ye api anya dhevathaa bhakthaah yajanthe SraddhayaanvithaaH the api maameva kountheya yajanthi aviDhipporvakam. ' meaning that all who wrorship other deities worship Him alone though not strictly in the way prescribed. He further says that He makes their faith stronger of those who worship any form with full faith. After I have become a paramaikaanthi, I do not observe ant vratham or propitiate the navagrahas etc. becasue he s the power behind all and He stipulates only that pathram 'pushpam phalam thoyam yo me bhakthyaa prayacChathi thdhaham bhakthyupahrtham aSnaami prayathaathmanah. ' What ever is offered with devotion. may it be a leaf. a flower. agruit or water, He accepts that with pleasure.Purandarad asa has said in his krthi, 'sakalagrahphala neene sarasijaaksha, '' O Lord with lotus-eyes You are the power of teh all planets..' Butthe most important requisite for His grace is bhakthi which is not mere worshipor following the rituals etc. but unalloyed love for the Lord as someon closer than the closest to you as you own inner self to whom you can bare all your feelings good or bad and offer all your actions, right or wrong.then he leads you by hand. Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit. www.freewebs. com/asrama3 --- On Sat, 11/22/08, muralidhar rajgopal <muralidhar_y2k2001@ .co. in> wrote: muralidhar rajgopal <muralidhar_y2k2001@ .co. in>[Guruvayur] " Beleive in One God " > STOP WORSHIPING DUMMY GODS guruvayur@grou ps.comSaturday, November 22, 2008, 12:56 AM Hi Members I would like to share few things with all of our Group members of Lord Guruvayoorappa. I thought of writing the Mail from past 5-6 months, but not been able to do so, due to hectic work schedule and my exams, Even though i passed out Degree with good marks , i never had better luck on my shoulder, Things had gone from Bad to Worst, I use to visit all the temples, churches , but with no results, i used to believe in all Gods and use to fear about gods rather than loving them. All suddenly changed, when i met a Muslim Guy, on my way to Guruvayoor, that was my First trip to Guruvayoor, He explained me the Benefit of " Dhyan " and he asked me to do the Dhyan every Day without fail on Lord Krishna, It was really strange to me at that time, to hear from a Muslim about Dhyan Funda, but it started slowly working, It was difficult at first instance, i used to do hardly for 5 to 10 mins , than everything got turned on my way, Now i never use to visit any temples, I am believer of One God now, and i visist only one Temple that is Guruvayoor, I got a good job, now am in UK , never imagined in my career that i will reach in the position where i feel satisfied and other feel proud of me. Some time feel, god is misterious , And my God Lord Krishna is so misterious he has several misterious way , we cant question him, because he has his own ways and his ways is not the ways which we are leading, and even if we i try to question him he says innside my heart " My Son " , so lovely and i feel as if god is looking at me all the time, the things i do , the things i care and i hate, Infact everything. I still cant understand even though i wont question there belief, why the people beleive in Mantras, Gods Goddesses, when only one God exist in this universe and he is One, There may hundreds of scientific answers we may have for why we pray to all gods, but that any way dosent makes any scence , if the person who truely beleives in Bhagavat Gita. Why the people still fear about Gods, Say an example of Shanideva, we so scared of him, i can see people in hundreds queing up on Saturday to offer there offerings, and i do asked some people, the answer I get is not because of bhakthi they are offering, because of fear. Do We need to Fear the God, The God heart is filled with love, nothing but love, no matter whatever sin we do , he forgive us, Why cant people take inspiration from Valmiki, even though he is the biggest sinner in front of his own wife and children, but still he was able to closer to God STOP FEARING GOD< STOP BELEIVING IN THOUSANDS OF GOD>ONLY ONE GOD EXIST > " Om Namo Narayanaya " Jai Shri Krishna Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Om Namo Narayanaya. Kamleshji ...some of us are fortunate to go through this process...moving from trading and bartering with God to surrendering to His will. I think life in the U.S. definitely hastens the process! Thanks for sharing; like Savitriji suggested it is ok to ask him..He is our father, mother, and best buddy. If we as His children don't ask Him, who else is there to ask of? But it is even sweeter when we leave everything up to Him and He gives us something more fulfilling, beautfiul and long lasting than we ever hoped for.Regards,Veena.--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram wrote:Savitri Puram <savitriopuramRe: [Guruvayur] My business deals with godguruvayur Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:07 AM Dear Kamaleshji, It was very nice of you to share your experience of Bhagavan's kindness. At your age, to have such an attitude of complete surrender shows how blessed you are. To be honest with you I feel so happy to know that young people like you, Sunilji and many others in our group are there to spread the glory of Bhagavan with energy and enthusiasm. Any business deal with Him is alright Kamaleshji because, he will change our attitude along with blessing us with the business deal we asked for. What did He do to you? He gave you the best job and he changed your attitude to total surrender! I will tell you the end result of both Dhruvji's and Prahladjis prayers. Dhruvji approached Bhagavan to fulfill his materialistic wish and what did Bhagavan do? He gave him everything he asked for and moksham. Actually when he was given what he wanted, his attitude was completely changed and at that point, he only wanted Bhagavan. Bhagavan makes even a business deal, a spiritual deal! That is His greatness. Prahlaada did not pray for anything other than God Himself. Still He gave him the kingdom, all material anugrahaas and then moksham also. Of course Prahladji did not want anything, but Bhagavan's nature is to give everything to his Bhaktha who comes to him with total surrender. Melpatthoor had a deal with Bhagavan to cure his arthritis. By the time he was ready to write the 100th chapter "agre pashyaami". he did not care about his illness, but was enjoying the bliss of divya kaishora vaesham. Bhagavan gave him health, fame, money, all material blessings. But Melpatthur wanted only Bhagavan. Jnanaanaananda Saraswathi says: "Approach Bhagavan for anything and everything. Go to Him, when you are sad, go to him when you are happy, go to him when you want something, go to Him when you are in pain. Go to Him when you do not want anything also. Finally you will reach a stage when you want only Him". I wrote this only to tell you how happy I am to read your mail and this is not meant to contradict your great attitude of total surrender and not asking for anything specific. I just want to bring the point that if we can approach Him for any reason, we are blessed. May Guruvayurappan bless you to evolve spiritually every day and keep you close to Him! Regards and prayers savitri On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Veryytterium <veryytterium@ > wrote: namo narayana Respected devotees of Lord Guruvayoorappan, On the lines of what Saroja amma and Sri Muralidharji have written I would like to share my experience Being born in a fairly religious family, I worshipped all the gods (anya devathas), however my faith was based on blind traditions, fear and my desires. I would worship Goddess Saraswathi for my exams, and worship Lord Ganapathy for a difficult project, I was terrified of Lord Shanidevan and hence also prayed to him on saturdays. My worship was more like a business transaction, "fulfill me my desires and I will do such and such puja, go to the temple" and so on. After completing my B.Tech, I left for the US to complete my PhD. Here I was all alone without any support, there was no family, no friends and everything was alien. I still would continue my "business deals" with "the gods" and thought that all was nice. However in my second year, I had to deal with a very serious emotional as well as a serious academic problem, I had no support system. I was totally depressed and helpless and was looking for some divine help, but this time my "business deals" failed to provide me with love and devotion .. I was searching for some divine power with which I could relate personally with love and devotion. At this time Lord Narayana sent me an accquitance (whom I knew for a long time), he was a follower of HH Srila Prabhupada and he then introduced me to the process of serving Lord Narayana as a devotee and not as an asker. For the first time in my life, I could worshio Lord Narayana with sincere devotion and love and not out of fear or to follow some tradition. The worship of "anyaa devathaas" slowly faded as Lord Narayana had stolen my heart. Now He allowed me to exclusively worship Him without any guilt or fear of offending the other gods. However I still would continually ask for my desires to be fullfilled to Lord Narayana. As I was nearing the completion of my PhD (August 2008) I was looking for a research job in the US. But due to the economic slowdown jobs were hard to find, especially for international students. I was very frustrated and depressed with the state of my career, despite being from a very reputed university I had no career offers even after one year of searching. I had applied to almost all the suitable industrial positions and even got selected for interview, but nothing seemed to work. Then one morning during my puja, I made up my mind, I prayed to Him, "Since I have surrendered to You, You have every right to put me in any situation possible, I know that you care more about me that I do for myself, and I am sure I will be in safe hands whatever you decide to do with my life"- I then decided that I will never make any specific demands from Him and just continually enjoy serving Him daily by singing His names and His stotrams. Just after a week, I got a phone call from a major technical company and said that they liked my resume which I had posted on a technical career portal and asked me if I could come for a onsite-interview in a weeks time. With His names on my mind, I went for my interview and with His grace I was selected for a researcher's position in the same evening. I had got a job offer even before I defended my PhD thesis! I was astounded as how He works, I had never even applied for this position and He saw to it that I got this job. It is just two months I am in my new job, I like my research and my career prospects look in good shape. From all this experience I have learned that He knows the best, and hence there is no reason to tarnish the bliss of serving Him by asking Him to fulfill my mundane desires. Afterall, now I can say that this is my last "business deal" with Him, I will continually chant and sing His glories unconditionally and He will in turn give me love and devotion in this life and after death in Sri Vaikuntham. Certainly there is no profitable deal than this. Sincerely, Kamlesh --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18 > wrote: Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18 >Re: [Guruvayur] "Beleive in One God" > STOP WORSHIPING DUMMY GODS guruvayur@grou ps.comFriday, November 21, 2008, 9:12 PM Very well expressed and poignant.I suppose you are quite young judging from the fact that you mentioned about yuou exams etc. and it is a great blessing that you have received janan at this age. It was a muslim who gave you the right knowledge is only icidental. The Lord comes in all forms and shapes to lead one whom He had chosen to grace. When He has deided to shower His grace there is no stopping Him.In Gita He says 'bahuSaakha hi ananthaaScha budDhiH avyavasaayinaam. .' Till your mind gets fixed on one object of meditation may it be any form of he Lord, it runs in all directions not knowing what to hold on as in wilderness or caught in a flood .Once th faith is settled on one form there is no more running around and a hand is there to hold on.But when and how that hand is extended depends on one's past karma and upon the will of God. All important things happen by chance in our life as it happened to you. But what we see as chance is really he will of the Lord. He plans everything when and how it should happen.My life itself is an example.I was also worshipping all deities once , say till about 15 years ago but through God's grace I was blessed with firm faith on Lord Nrayana and fortunately, through His will, I also met with a guru who showed me the right patha and since then I never looked back. 'VasudevaH sarvam ithi,' is the motto I am trying to follow and has been successful to a great extent. Of course I worshipHim in all Hifs forms like Krishna, Rama ,Narasimha, Venkatesvara etc. as all these arethe fdifferent costumes of the same Lord, as we love all the photos of our children in different attires. After that there is immense peace that have descended on me and noting affects now as it did once . True faith hs no place for fear and you are right there. when you love your mother or father you dont fear them. Fer\ar and love cannot coexist. The Lord knows all your good and bad aspcects of character andyou dont have to be afraid of Him as He is your innerself. One is not afraid of oneself. Fear comes only when you see Him as someone outside and different. About japas manthras etc they are all prescribed for the concentration of mind.It is k like dhyana in different form.Onec you have chosen your pbject of love nad devotion in any form chantiing the manthras and sthothras are lfor the joy they bring as one gets when calling his child or the one he loves by different endearing names and the joy in talking about their doings. I always used to advise my students to have one form of deity, let it be Naryana, Siva,Devi, Ganesa. Muruga etc., but stick to it.There is only one God and not various and He comes to you in whicheverform you think of Him.This Krishna Himself makeds clear in Gita by saying, 'ye api anya dhevathaa bhakthaah yajanthe SraddhayaanvithaaH the api maameva kountheya yajanthi aviDhipporvakam. ' meaning that all who wrorship other deities worship Him alone though not strictly in the way prescribed. He further says that He makes their faith stronger of those who worship any form with full faith. After I have become a paramaikaanthi, I do not observe ant vratham or propitiate the navagrahas etc. becasue he s the power behind all and He stipulates only that pathram 'pushpam phalam thoyam yo me bhakthyaa prayacChathi thdhaham bhakthyupahrtham aSnaami prayathaathmanah. ' What ever is offered with devotion. may it be a leaf. a flower. agruit or water, He accepts that with pleasure.Purandarad asa has said in his krthi, 'sakalagrahphala neene sarasijaaksha, '' O Lord with lotus-eyes You are the power of teh all planets..' Butthe most important requisite for His grace is bhakthi which is not mere worshipor following the rituals etc. but unalloyed love for the Lord as someon closer than the closest to you as you own inner self to whom you can bare all your feelings good or bad and offer all your actions, right or wrong.then he leads you by hand. Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit. www.freewebs. com/asrama3 --- On Sat, 11/22/08, muralidhar rajgopal <muralidhar_y2k2001@ .co. in> wrote: muralidhar rajgopal <muralidhar_y2k2001@ .co. in>[Guruvayur] "Beleive in One God" > STOP WORSHIPING DUMMY GODS guruvayur@grou ps.comSaturday, November 22, 2008, 12:56 AM Hi Members I would like to share few things with all of our Group members of Lord Guruvayoorappa. I thought of writing the Mail from past 5-6 months, but not been able to do so, due to hectic work schedule and my exams, Even though i passed out Degree with good marks , i never had better luck on my shoulder, Things had gone from Bad to Worst, I use to visit all the temples, churches , but with no results, i used to believe in all Gods and use to fear about gods rather than loving them. All suddenly changed, when i met a Muslim Guy, on my way to Guruvayoor, that was my First trip to Guruvayoor, He explained me the Benefit of "Dhyan" and he asked me to do the Dhyan every Day without fail on Lord Krishna, It was really strange to me at that time, to hear from a Muslim about Dhyan Funda, but it started slowly working, It was difficult at first instance, i used to do hardly for 5 to 10 mins , than everything got turned on my way, Now i never use to visit any temples, I am believer of One God now, and i visist only one Temple that is Guruvayoor, I got a good job, now am in UK , never imagined in my career that i will reach in the position where i feel satisfied and other feel proud of me. Some time feel, god is misterious , And my God Lord Krishna is so misterious he has several misterious way , we cant question him, because he has his own ways and his ways is not the ways which we are leading, and even if we i try to question him he says innside my heart "My Son" , so lovely and i feel as if god is looking at me all the time, the things i do , the things i care and i hate, Infact everything. I still cant understand even though i wont question there belief, why the people beleive in Mantras, Gods Goddesses, when only one God exist in this universe and he is One, There may hundreds of scientific answers we may have for why we pray to all gods, but that any way dosent makes any scence , if the person who truely beleives in Bhagavat Gita. Why the people still fear about Gods, Say an example of Shanideva, we so scared of him, i can see people in hundreds queing up on Saturday to offer there offerings, and i do asked some people, the answer I get is not because of bhakthi they are offering, because of fear. Do We need to Fear the God, The God heart is filled with love, nothing but love, no matter whatever sin we do , he forgive us, Why cant people take inspiration from Valmiki, even though he is the biggest sinner in front of his own wife and children, but still he was able to closer to God STOP FEARING GOD< STOP BELEIVING IN THOUSANDS OF GOD>ONLY ONE GOD EXIST > "Om Namo Narayanaya" Jai Shri Krishna Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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