Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 We all know worship of snakes is very high in Kerala and we hv lot famous temples for that.Even in many houses in village side lot of people worship snake god and set apart a place called "kavu" where lot of trees are found and cutting of trees are prohibited and every year once or twice offerings are made and snake god is worshipped in the traditional way and food is offered though the same may not be the food of the snake but the same are attracted by rats and becomes rat-snakes which become food for cobras etc. Mythology says that Kerala was created by sage Parasurama(an avatar of Vishnu) and donated to nambudhiris to wash out the sins done by him by killing lot of kshatriyas.The land was full of forests containing lot of snakes.To make the land habitable snake temples were built for worship and the same continues.Cutting trees of those places are prohibited but the intersting point is that the groves contain trees and plants which hv herbal value and can be used even for snake bites. In temples like Mannarsala near Haripad the snake temple is very famous and attracts devotees from all over the country and worshipping there will enable to get progeny for those who don't hv children and many ailments are cured.The same is run by unmarried women only through several centuries.There are also famous snake temples in other palces which attract devotees.I know many persons hv been benefitted by worshipping in those temples like getting progeny,cure from strange diseases. It is not known why snakes are worshipped to such an extent in Kerala only and what actually is the reason for the same and when the tradition started?I am sure somebody in the Group may be able to clarify my doubt.Can I hope? Hare Krishna. See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Guruvayoorappa, Dear Devotees of the Lord, I think OPHIOLATRY or Serpent-Worship (‘Sarpparadhana’) is a very great subject than we think. I have my humble doubt about the statement of Sri GANAPATHY RAMANJI that ‘it is not known why snakes are worshipped to such an extent in Kerala only…’ It seems that it may not be in Kerala only. It is heard that in some African countries it is as much as or more than that, in Kerala. I am saying this not for any debate; only from hearsay and not authoritative. If known to some Gurudevs, kindly enlighten us. Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam mpr Thank you, Have a great day, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan. guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of GANAPATHY RAMAN Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:22 PM guruvayur [Guruvayur] Snake worship. We all know worship of snakes is very high in Kerala and we hv lot famous temples for that.Even in many houses in village side lot of people worship snake god and set apart a place called " kavu " where lot of trees are found and cutting of trees are prohibited and every year once or twice offerings are made and snake god is worshipped in the traditional way and food is offered though the same may not be the food of the snake but the same are attracted by rats and becomes rat-snakes which become food for cobras etc. Mythology says that Kerala was created by sage Parasurama(an avatar of Vishnu) and donated to nambudhiris to wash out the sins done by him by killing lot of kshatriyas.The land was full of forests containing lot of snakes.To make the land habitable snake temples were built for worship and the same continues.Cutting trees of those places are prohibited but the intersting point is that the groves contain trees and plants which hv herbal value and can be used even for snake bites. In temples like Mannarsala near Haripad the snake temple is very famous and attracts devotees from all over the country and worshipping there will enable to get progeny for those who don't hv children and many ailments are cured.The same is run by unmarried women only through several centuries.There are also famous snake temples in other palces which attract devotees.I know many persons hv been benefitted by worshipping in those temples like getting progeny,cure from strange diseases. It is not known why snakes are worshipped to such an extent in Kerala only and what actually is the reason for the same and when the tradition started?I am sure somebody in the Group may be able to clarify my doubt.Can I hope? Hare Krishna. See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hari-Om Dear Gurudevas, In this forum I was expecting some real , genuine personal comments on writes-up by various authors. I did not want to comment on this subject not because I am not familiar with it but for obvious other reasons. As a child growing up in Kerala. I had ample opportunities to witness snake poojas conducted by Namboothiri priests in my own residence as well as elsewhere. Serpent worship is not restricted to Kerala and it not a Nair tradition if that is the assumption of certain individuals. Again Nairs are not of Naga origin. There is a Naga community in north India, Nagaland, Nagpur is the capital city, Naga worship dates back to Indus valley civilization. Before that , Lord Mahadev ( anyone calls himself is familiar with) wears a live Cobra around His neck and I am sure He was not a member of the Nair community. Lord Krishna killed the troublesome Kaliya who occupied River Yammuna and harassed the people around that place. Nagapanchami is celebrted all over India and the origin of Nagpnchmi is the killing of kaliya by Krishna 5000 years ago. Snakes were worshipped all over the world including Europe from time immemorial. The original inhabitands of America and Mexico worshipped the Cobra. They worshipped what is called the AMARUCA, the plumed/ flying serpent. America derived its name from the name AMARUCA . The maya civilization, The ancient Egyptians, the Romans all had their Serpent Gods. Buddhists believe in Snakes ; Sree Buddha is said to have been saved by a serpent . Chinese believe in Cobra worship and they have the Dragon Cobra. According to legands, it is Rahu disguised as snake that swallows the sun and moon during Grahnam. The Sarpa kavu in Kerala is mainly an envioremental preservation and protection scheme ( the sarpa kavu covers a vast area of plants and trees considered bad omen if destroyed ) disguised in religious myth to make the illiterate inhabitants of bygone days to preserve the practice. I am not writing this for debate but as a humble trial to clear up a mess. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair guruvayur , Hemant Radhakrishnan <hemant197515 wrote: > > Dear Mr Nair, > Hope the article below gives some insight. > number of sociologists are of the view that the Nairs are not indigenous to Kerala, as many customs and traditions distinguish them from other Keralites. There is a hypothesis on the basis of mythology that the Nairs are Nagas and were Kshatriyas belonging to the Serpent dynasty (Nagavansham)[25][26] who removed their sacred thread and migrated south to escape the wrath of a vengeful Parashurama. A Naga origin from Rohilkhand has been suggested.[27] The affinity of the Nair community towards serpent worship, their martial past, and the absence of the sacred thread lends support to this theory.. In addition, the Travancore State Manual states that there were indeed serpent-worshiping Nagas in Kerala who fought with the Namboothiris till they reached a consensus. The Nairs have also been classified as of Dravidian (Saka) origin as well as being linked to the Nagas.[28][29][30] > According to Chattampi Swamikal, who interpreted old Tamil texts, the Nairs were Naka (Naga or Snake) Lords who ruled as feudal lords in the Chera( chera= snake) kingdom. Therefore this theory proposes Nairs to be descendants of the rulers and martial nobility of pre-Brahmin Kerala. But the most widely accepted theory is that the ethnic group is not native to Kerala and the Nairs of Kerala and the similarly matrilineal Bunts of southern Tulu Nadu are thought to be descendants of the Kshatriyas who accompanied the Brahmins to Kerala and Tulu Nadu respectively from Ahichatra/Ahikshetra in southern Panchala. [31] One finds mention of the Nairs during the reign of the King Rama Varma Kulashekhara (1020-1102) of the second Chera dynasty, when the Chera Kingdom was attacked by the C number of sociologists are of the view that the Nairs are not indigenous to Kerala, as many customs and traditions distinguish them from other Keralites. There is a hypothesis on > the basis of mythology that the Nairs are Nagas and were Kshatriyas belonging to the Serpent dynasty (Nagavansham)[25][26] who removed their sacred thread and migrated south to escape the wrath of a vengeful Parashurama. A Naga origin from Rohilkhand has been suggested.[27] The affinity of the Nair community towards serpent worship, their martial past, and the absence of the sacred thread lends support to this theory. In addition, the Travancore State Manual states that there were indeed serpent-worshiping Nagas in Kerala who fought with the Namboothiris till they reached a consensus. The Nairs have also been classified as of Dravidian (Saka) origin as well as being linked to the Nagas.[28][29][30] > According to Chattampi Swamikal, who interpreted old Tamil texts, the Nairs were Naka (Naga or Snake) Lords who ruled as feudal lords in the Chera( chera= snake) kingdom. Therefore this theory proposes Nairs to be descendants of the rulers and martial nobility of pre-Brahmin Kerala. But the most widely accepted theory is that the ethnic group is not native to Kerala and the Nairs of Kerala and the similarly matrilineal Bunts of southern Tulu Nadu are thought to be descendants of the Kshatriyas who accompanied the Brahmins to Kerala and Tulu Nadu respectively from Ahichatra/Ahikshetra in southern Panchala. [31] One finds mention of the Nairs during the reign of the King Rama Varma Kulashekhara (1020-1102) of the second Chera dynasty, when the Chera Kingdom was attacked by the Cholas. The Nairs fought by forming suicide squads (Chavers) against the invading force. It is not clear whether the Cheras themselves were Nairs, or if the Cheras employed the Nairs > as a warrior class.[32] > The Sanskrit Kerala Mahatmayam, an upa purana of the Bhoogola Purana, calls them the progeny of Namboodiri men with Deva, Rakshasa and Gandharva women.. > holas. The Nairs fought by forming suicide squads (Chavers) against the invading force. It is not clear whether the Cheras themselves were Nairs, or if the Cheras employed the Nairs as a warrior class.[32] > The Sanskrit Kerala Mahatmayam, an upa purana of the Bhoogola Purana, calls them the progeny of Namboodiri men with Deva, Rakshasa and Gandharva women.. > This >  > > > --- On Wed, 22/7/09, mprnair <nairradhakrishnan wrote: > > > mprnair <nairradhakrishnan > RE: [Guruvayur] Snake worship. > guruvayur > Wednesday, 22 July, 2009, 9:06 AM > > >  > > > > > > Guruvayoorappa, > Dear Devotees of the Lord, > I think OPHIOLATRY or Serpent-Worship (‘Sarpparadhana’) is a very great subject than we think. > I have my humble doubt about the statement of Sri GANAPATHY RAMANJI that ‘it is not known why snakes > are worshipped to such an extent in Kerala only…’ It seems that it may not be in Kerala only. It is heard that > in some African countries it is as much as or more than that, in Kerala. I am saying this not for any debate; only > from hearsay and not authoritative. If known to some Gurudevs, kindly enlighten us. > Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam > mpr > > Thank you, > Have a great day, > mprnair, > nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com. > >  > > > > > guruvayur@grou ps.com [ guruvayur@grou ps.com ] On Behalf Of GANAPATHY RAMAN > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:22 PM > guruvayur@grou ps.com > [Guruvayur] Snake worship. >  >  > > >  We all know worship of snakes is very high in Kerala and we hv lot famous temples for that.Even in many houses in village side lot of people worship snake god and set apart a place called " kavu " where lot of trees are found and cutting of trees are prohibited and every year once or twice offerings are made and snake god is worshipped in the traditional way and food is offered though the same may not be the food of the snake but the same are attracted by rats and becomes rat-snakes which become food for cobras etc. > >  > > Mythology says that Kerala was created by sage Parasurama(an avatar of Vishnu) and donated to nambudhiris to wash out the sins done by him by killing lot of kshatriyas.The land was full of forests containing lot of snakes.To make the land habitable snake temples were built for worship and the same continues.Cutting trees of those places are prohibited but the intersting point is that the groves contain trees and plants which hv herbal value and can be used even for snake bites. > >  > > In temples like Mannarsala near Haripad the snake temple is very famous and attracts devotees from all over the country and worshipping there will enable to get progeny for those who don't hv children and many ailments are cured.The same is run by unmarried women only through several centuries.There are also famous snake temples in other palces which attract devotees.I know many persons hv been benefitted by worshipping in those temples like getting progeny,cure from strange diseases. > >  > > It is not known why snakes are worshipped to such an extent in Kerala only and what actually is the reason for the same and when the tradition started?I am sure somebody in the Group may be able to clarify my doubt.Can I hope? > >  > > Hare Krishna. 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Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Gurvayoorappa, Dear Devotees of the Lord, In Sarpparadhana, Kavu plays an important role. Kavu is supposed as the human body and the plants and trees of different varieties including the climbers, creepers etc.,there,  often forming a tangled mass is supposed to be the blood vessels in the human body. There is some thing great behind the truth of the whole thing. Where will we can hide if all the serpents in a particular place come out atonce ? Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam, mpr Thank you, Have a great day, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan. http://mprnair.blogspot.com/ # 281 573 8087 / Cell- 281 948 7339. guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of anair1101 Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:43 PM guruvayur [Guruvayur] Re: Snake worship. Hari-Om Dear Gurudevas, In this forum I was expecting some real , genuine personal comments on writes-up by various authors. I did not want to comment on this subject not because I am not familiar with it but for obvious other reasons. As a child growing up in Kerala. I had ample opportunities to witness snake poojas conducted by Namboothiri priests in my own residence as well as elsewhere. Serpent worship is not restricted to Kerala and it not a Nair tradition if that is the assumption of certain individuals. Again Nairs are not of Naga origin. There is a Naga community in north India, Nagaland, Nagpur is the capital city, Naga worship dates back to Indus valley civilization. Before that , Lord Mahadev ( anyone calls himself is familiar with) wears a live Cobra around His neck and I am sure He was not a member of the Nair community. Lord Krishna killed the troublesome Kaliya who occupied River Yammuna and harassed the people around that place. Nagapanchami is celebrted all over India and the origin of Nagpnchmi is the killing of kaliya by Krishna 5000 years ago. Snakes were worshipped all over the world including Europe from time immemorial. The original inhabitands of America and Mexico worshipped the Cobra. They worshipped what is called the AMARUCA, the plumed/ flying serpent. America derived its name from the name AMARUCA . The maya civilization, The ancient Egyptians, the Romans all had their Serpent Gods. Buddhists believe in Snakes ; Sree Buddha is said to have been saved by a serpent . Chinese believe in Cobra worship and they have the Dragon Cobra. According to legands, it is Rahu disguised as snake that swallows the sun and moon during Grahnam. The Sarpa kavu in Kerala is mainly an envioremental preservation and protection scheme ( the sarpa kavu covers a vast area of plants and trees considered bad omen if destroyed ) disguised in religious myth to make the illiterate inhabitants of bygone days to preserve the practice. I am not writing this for debate but as a humble trial to clear up a mess. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair guruvayur , Hemant Radhakrishnan <hemant197515 wrote: > > Dear Mr Nair, > Hope the article below gives some insight. > number of sociologists are of the view that the Nairs are not indigenous to Kerala, as many customs and traditions distinguish them from other Keralites. There is a hypothesis on the basis of mythology that the Nairs are Nagas and were Kshatriyas belonging to the Serpent dynasty (Nagavansham)[25][26] who removed their sacred thread and migrated south to escape the wrath of a vengeful Parashurama. A Naga origin from Rohilkhand has been suggested.[27] The affinity of the Nair community towards serpent worship, their martial past, and the absence of the sacred thread lends support to this theory.. In addition, the Travancore State Manual states that there were indeed serpent-worshiping Nagas in Kerala who fought with the Namboothiris till they reached a consensus. The Nairs have also been classified as of Dravidian (Saka) origin as well as being linked to the Nagas.[28][29][30] > According to Chattampi Swamikal, who interpreted old Tamil texts, the Nairs were Naka (Naga or Snake) Lords who ruled as feudal lords in the Chera( chera= snake) kingdom. Therefore this theory proposes Nairs to be descendants of the rulers and martial nobility of pre-Brahmin Kerala. But the most widely accepted theory is that the ethnic group is not native to Kerala and the Nairs of Kerala and the similarly matrilineal Bunts of southern Tulu Nadu are thought to be descendants of the Kshatriyas who accompanied the Brahmins to Kerala and Tulu Nadu respectively from Ahichatra/Ahikshetra in southern Panchala. [31] One finds mention of the Nairs during the reign of the King Rama Varma Kulashekhara (1020-1102) of the second Chera dynasty, when the Chera Kingdom was attacked by the C number of sociologists are of the view that the Nairs are not indigenous to Kerala, as many customs and traditions distinguish them from other Keralites. There is a hypothesis on > the basis of mythology that the Nairs are Nagas and were Kshatriyas belonging to the Serpent dynasty (Nagavansham)[25][26] who removed their sacred thread and migrated south to escape the wrath of a vengeful Parashurama. A Naga origin from Rohilkhand has been suggested.[27] The affinity of the Nair community towards serpent worship, their martial past, and the absence of the sacred thread lends support to this theory. In addition, the Travancore State Manual states that there were indeed serpent-worshiping Nagas in Kerala who fought with the Namboothiris till they reached a consensus. The Nairs have also been classified as of Dravidian (Saka) origin as well as being linked to the Nagas.[28][29][30] > According to Chattampi Swamikal, who interpreted old Tamil texts, the Nairs were Naka (Naga or Snake) Lords who ruled as feudal lords in the Chera( chera= snake) kingdom. Therefore this theory proposes Nairs to be descendants of the rulers and martial nobility of pre-Brahmin Kerala. But the most widely accepted theory is that the ethnic group is not native to Kerala and the Nairs of Kerala and the similarly matrilineal Bunts of southern Tulu Nadu are thought to be descendants of the Kshatriyas who accompanied the Brahmins to Kerala and Tulu Nadu respectively from Ahichatra/Ahikshetra in southern Panchala. [31] One finds mention of the Nairs during the reign of the King Rama Varma Kulashekhara (1020-1102) of the second Chera dynasty, when the Chera Kingdom was attacked by the Cholas. The Nairs fought by forming suicide squads (Chavers) against the invading force. It is not clear whether the Cheras themselves were Nairs, or if the Cheras employed the Nairs > as a warrior class.[32] > The Sanskrit Kerala Mahatmayam, an upa purana of the Bhoogola Purana, calls them the progeny of Namboodiri men with Deva, Rakshasa and Gandharva women.. > holas. The Nairs fought by forming suicide squads (Chavers) against the invading force. It is not clear whether the Cheras themselves were Nairs, or if the Cheras employed the Nairs as a warrior class.[32] > The Sanskrit Kerala Mahatmayam, an upa purana of the Bhoogola Purana, calls them the progeny of Namboodiri men with Deva, Rakshasa and Gandharva women.. > This >  > > > --- On Wed, 22/7/09, mprnair <nairradhakrishnan wrote: > > > mprnair <nairradhakrishnan > RE: [Guruvayur] Snake worship. > guruvayur > Wednesday, 22 July, 2009, 9:06 AM > > >  > > > > > > Guruvayoorappa, > Dear Devotees of the Lord, > I think OPHIOLATRY or Serpent-Worship (‘Sarpparadhana’) is a very great subject than we think. > I have my humble doubt about the statement of Sri GANAPATHY RAMANJI that ‘it is not known why snakes > are worshipped to such an extent in Kerala only…’ It seems that it may not be in Kerala only. It is heard that > in some African countries it is as much as or more than that, in Kerala. I am saying this not for any debate; only > from hearsay and not authoritative. If known to some Gurudevs, kindly enlighten us. > Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam > mpr > > Thank you, > Have a great day, > mprnair, > nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com. > >  > > > > > guruvayur@grou ps.com [ guruvayur@grou ps.com ] On Behalf Of GANAPATHY RAMAN > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:22 PM > guruvayur@grou ps.com > [Guruvayur] Snake worship. >  >  > > > > > > > > > >  We all know worship of snakes is very high in Kerala and we hv lot famous temples for that.Even in many houses in village side lot of people worship snake god and set apart a place called " kavu " where lot of trees are found and cutting of trees are prohibited and every year once or twice offerings are made and snake god is worshipped in the traditional way and food is offered though the same may not be the food of the snake but the same are attracted by rats and becomes rat-snakes which become food for cobras etc. > >  > > Mythology says that Kerala was created by sage Parasurama(an avatar of Vishnu) and donated to nambudhiris to wash out the sins done by him by killing lot of kshatriyas.The land was full of forests containing lot of snakes.To make the land habitable snake temples were built for worship and the same continues.Cutting trees of those places are prohibited but the intersting point is that the groves contain trees and plants which hv herbal value and can be used even for snake bites. > >  > > In temples like Mannarsala near Haripad the snake temple is very famous and attracts devotees from all over the country and worshipping there will enable to get progeny for those who don't hv children and many ailments are cured.The same is run by unmarried women only through several centuries.There are also famous snake temples in other palces which attract devotees.I know many persons hv been benefitted by worshipping in those temples like getting progeny,cure from strange diseases. > >  > > It is not known why snakes are worshipped to such an extent in Kerala only and what actually is the reason for the same and when the tradition started?I am sure somebody in the Group may be able to clarify my doubt.Can I hope? > >  > > Hare Krishna. > > > > > > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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