Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hari-Om Thank you Panickarji for the hint. It helped to clear certain mis-conceptions and misleading myths. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan nair guruvayur , Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanickar wrote: > > Dear Family members, > > I suggest all of you to read Chattambi Swamis writings on the subject. > > Sincerely, > Udayabhanu Panickar > aum namaH Shivaaya The vow not to kill is great indeed, and greater still is non-eating of the flesh; there would be no butcher, if there is non to eat; in eating thus abides the cruder ill, as she/he is the reason for the killing. > > --- On Sun, 7/26/09, anair1101 <anair1101 wrote: > > anair1101 <anair1101 > [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? > guruvayur > Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:35 PM > > > > > > Hari-Om > Parasuraman mazhu erinja katha paranja Keralam, Keralam mama Keralam mama Keralam ............ ......... ..... > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== > Parasurma is said to have created Keralam when he threw his mighty battle ax from a point in Kanyakumari northwards. Parasurama is the 6th incarnation of Mahavishnu. He was the wild warrior sage.. After killing the Kshatriyas, he does penance and brings in brahmins to populate and purify Keralam. > But Keralam existed before Parasurma's entrance. Mahabali the ideal king ruled Kerala until Vamana ( the 5th Avatar) in the form of a Brahmin boy expelled him to the Pathala loka but Keralam remained intact because Vamana alowed Mahabali to return to Kerala every year to bless his subjects. > Mahabali was banished because the Devas were jelous of him,; Mahabali was getting more popular among his subjects than the Devas themselves. > When Parasurama entered the scene, there was a well- organised and developed land that was left behind by Mahabali and populated by peace-loving inhabitants. .. So how can Parasurama reclaim Kerala from the sea ? It would be logical if Parsurama was the 5th avatar and Vamana was the 6th not otherwise. > jai shree krishna ! > > Achuthan Nair. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Dear Seemaji and others,As I wrote earlier, if you have access to Shree Chattambi Swamikal's writing on this subject, please read it.Sincerely,Udayabhanu Panickar aum namaH ShivAya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH, LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Seema Warrier <seemawarrier wrote:Seema Warrier <seemawarrierRe: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:21 AM A doubt. How come then Onam is celebrated in Kerala, but not in any other part of India. Legend behind Onam is Mahabali comes to meet his people. And as the song goes: "maaveli naadu vanidum kalam, manusharellarum onnu polle". Jayasree Menon <euroanuster@ gmail.com>guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, July 27, 2009 8:49:54 AMRe: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? Hari Om! Mahabali has not ruled Keralam. He was as per puranas, ruling a part of Gujarat. 2009/7/27 anair1101 <anair1101 > Hari-Om Parasuraman mazhu erinja katha paranja Keralam, Keralam mama Keralam mama Keralam ............. ......... ..... ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== Parasurma is said to have created Keralam when he threw his mighty battle ax from a point in Kanyakumari northwards. Parasurama is the 6th incarnation of Mahavishnu. He was the wild warrior sage.. After killing the Kshatriyas, he does penance and brings in brahmins to populate and purify Keralam. But Keralam existed before Parasurma's entrance. Mahabali the ideal king ruled Kerala until Vamana ( the 5th Avatar) in the form of a Brahmin boy expelled him to the Pathala loka but Keralam remained intact because Vamana alowed Mahabali to return to Kerala every year to bless his subjects. Mahabali was banished because the Devas were jelous of him,; Mahabali was getting more popular among his subjects than the Devas themselves. When Parasurama entered the scene, there was a well- organised and developed land that was left behind by Mahabali and populated by peace-loving inhabitants. . So how can Parasurama reclaim Kerala from the sea ? It would be logical if Parsurama was the 5th avatar and Vamana was the 6th not otherwise. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair. -- Best regardsJayasree MenonBangalore+9900149461my blog link: http://www.pythruka m.blogspot. com/------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----A well-thought out plan, execution excellence, market timing, personal leadership are drivers of the growth trajectory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Hari-Om There is scientific evidence, I believe, that land around the Kerala coast emerged from the sea due to the effects of a Tsunami thousands of years ago ..Similarly Dwaraka in Gujarat sank due to the same reason. Parasuraman was not around then.He had nothing to do with it. He had given way to Sree Rama and Sree Krishna ! The throwing of the axe is a falsified myth. In order to sustain their foothold certain parties with vested interests in land ownership and power sharing distorted many facts and successfully rewrote the scriptures. The Parasuram tale is just one of them. THere is a common belief that Parsuraman was a Pandyan King. Abraham Lincoln once said : You may fool all the people some of the time; you may even fool some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair guruvayur , Udayabhanu Panickar <udayabhanupanickar wrote: > > Dear Seemaji and others, > > As I wrote earlier, if you have access to Shree Chattambi Swamikal's writing on this subject, please read it. > > Sincerely, > Udayabhanu Panickar > aum namaH ShivAya > OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH, LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. > > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Seema Warrier <seemawarrier wrote: > > Seema Warrier <seemawarrier > Re: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? > guruvayur > Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:21 AM > > > > > > A doubt. How come then Onam is celebrated in Kerala, but not in any other part of India. Legend behind Onam is Mahabali comes to meet his people. And as the song goes: " maaveli naadu vanidum kalam, manusharellarum onnu polle " . > > > > > > Jayasree Menon <euroanuster@ gmail.com> > guruvayur@grou ps.com > Monday, July 27, 2009 8:49:54 AM > Re: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? > > > > > > Hari Om! > > Mahabali has not ruled Keralam. He was as per puranas, ruling a part of Gujarat. > > > 2009/7/27 anair1101 <anair1101 > > > > > > > > > Hari-Om > Parasuraman mazhu erinja katha paranja Keralam, Keralam mama Keralam mama Keralam ............ ......... ..... > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== > Parasurma is said to have created Keralam when he threw his mighty battle ax from a point in Kanyakumari northwards. Parasurama is the 6th incarnation of Mahavishnu. He was the wild warrior sage.. After killing the Kshatriyas, he does penance and brings in brahmins to populate and purify Keralam. > But Keralam existed before Parasurma's entrance. Mahabali the ideal king ruled Kerala until Vamana ( the 5th Avatar) in the form of a Brahmin boy expelled him to the Pathala loka but Keralam remained intact because Vamana alowed Mahabali to return to Kerala every year to bless his subjects. > Mahabali was banished because the Devas were jelous of him,; Mahabali was getting more popular among his subjects than the Devas themselves. > When Parasurama entered the scene, there was a well- organised and developed land that was left behind by Mahabali and populated by peace-loving inhabitants. .. So how can Parasurama reclaim Kerala from the sea ? It would be logical if Parsurama was the 5th avatar and Vamana was the 6th not otherwise. > jai shree krishna ! > > Achuthan Nair. > > > > > > > -- > Best regards > > Jayasree Menon > Bangalore > +9900149461 > my blog link: http://www.pythruka m.blogspot. com/ > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----- > A well-thought out plan, execution excellence, market timing, personal leadership are drivers of the growth trajectory. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Pranamam Panickerji, Can you please give me that link With Prayers, Jayasankar Vattekkat --- On Tue, 28/7/09, Udayabhanu Panickar <udayabhanupanickar wrote: Udayabhanu Panickar <udayabhanupanickarRe: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur Date: Tuesday, 28 July, 2009, 1:30 AM Dear Seemaji and others,As I wrote earlier, if you have access to Shree Chattambi Swamikal's writing on this subject, please read it.Sincerely,Udayabhanu Panickar aum namaH ShivAya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH, LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY.--- On Mon, 7/27/09, Seema Warrier <seemawarrier@ grouply.com> wrote: Seema Warrier <seemawarrier@ grouply.com>Re: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 10:21 AM A doubt. How come then Onam is celebrated in Kerala, but not in any other part of India. Legend behind Onam is Mahabali comes to meet his people. And as the song goes: "maaveli naadu vanidum kalam, manusharellarum onnu polle". Jayasree Menon <euroanuster@ gmail.com>guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, July 27, 2009 8:49:54 AMRe: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? Hari Om! Mahabali has not ruled Keralam. He was as per puranas, ruling a part of Gujarat. 2009/7/27 anair1101 <anair1101 > Hari-Om Parasuraman mazhu erinja katha paranja Keralam, Keralam mama Keralam mama Keralam ............ . ......... ..... ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== Parasurma is said to have created Keralam when he threw his mighty battle ax from a point in Kanyakumari northwards. Parasurama is the 6th incarnation of Mahavishnu. He was the wild warrior sage.. After killing the Kshatriyas, he does penance and brings in brahmins to populate and purify Keralam. But Keralam existed before Parasurma's entrance. Mahabali the ideal king ruled Kerala until Vamana ( the 5th Avatar) in the form of a Brahmin boy expelled him to the Pathala loka but Keralam remained intact because Vamana alowed Mahabali to return to Kerala every year to bless his subjects. Mahabali was banished because the Devas were jelous of him,; Mahabali was getting more popular among his subjects than the Devas themselves. When Parasurama entered the scene, there was a well- organised and developed land that was left behind by Mahabali and populated by peace-loving inhabitants. . So how can Parasurama reclaim Kerala from the sea ? It would be logical if Parsurama was the 5th avatar and Vamana was the 6th not otherwise. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair. -- Best regardsJayasree MenonBangalore+9900149461my blog link: http://www.pythruka m.blogspot. com/------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----A well-thought out plan, execution excellence, market timing, personal leadership are drivers of the growth trajectory. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 !! Sri Rama Jayam !! Dear Achuthan Nair ji, Please do not take my claim of Parashuram's throwing of axe as a counter-argument. This phenomena has a strong scientific edge as well. We have a great deal of scientific evidences round the world where great waters have eaten a good portion of land (like during decadel or centennial floods) and on the other hand history has seen many great lands which were surrendered by oceans/seas due to severe climates (by drought or by freezing). In Srimad Bhagavattam, there are 3 strong references to historical floods. One during Varaha avataram when Hiranyakshan immersed earth into waters; second during Matsya avataram which prolonged over 150 days (similar to the great flood said in Bible during Noha's reign) and third one in Krishna avataram with the sinking of Dwarika. Earlier this year, I came across an archeological video evidence that there was a well-assessed human thought behind the creation of Krishna's Dwarika. The spot was properly chosen by Lord Krishna for a greater reason that area represented an extreme probability of a severe declination and consequent uprise of ocean waters in a very short line of time (~100yrs)...there is no other place on the planet which has shown this characteristic in the past 5000 years. The timeline of ~ 100yrs exactly matched with Krishna's life mission. Post effect of axe-throw and land retrievel by Parashuram : On visiting Mannarashala temple (in Haripad) in late April'09, I had a chance to buy the temple history book in which it is referred clearly about this incident. More interesting was to know that when Parashurama failed to convert the saline land to a fertile one for human use, he was consoled and advised by Lord Siva to worship the great Nagas. You might ask -- Why is that?? Lord Siva (who is the supreme doctor) unfold the mystery that the venom of the great nagas have wonderful powers to absorb the salinity of land. Beleive me -- the formula worked .. and the temple was constructed as a symbol of protection. Hope it helps you in some way. Hare Krishna Hare Rama guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of anair1101Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:47 AMguruvayur Subject: [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? Hari-OmThere is scientific evidence, I believe, that land around the Kerala coast emerged from the sea due to the effects of a Tsunami thousands of years ago .Similarly Dwaraka in Gujarat sank due to the same reason. Parasuraman was not around then.He had nothing to do with it. He had given way to Sree Rama and Sree Krishna !The throwing of the axe is a falsified myth. In order to sustain their foothold certain parties with vested interests in land ownership and power sharing distorted many facts and successfully rewrote the scriptures. The Parasuram tale is just one of them.THere is a common belief that Parsuraman was a Pandyan King. Abraham Lincoln once said : You may fool all the people some of the time; you may even fool some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.jai shree krishna !Achuthan Nair .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Vinodji, My family and myself had viited Mannarassala and had met the Priestess there. this was a few years ago. The popular offering there is the Uruli kamazhttal. The history of Mannarassala is very vague. and it is written by a member of that illam, M > G. Narayanan Namboodiri. How valid is the book is not certain as the book itself is published and distributed by the trustees of the illam. It is doubtful if any other written records exist. Did Parasuraman establish the illam ? who knows ? jai shree krishna ! guruvayur , " PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy) " <vinod.ps wrote: > > !! Sri Rama Jayam !! > > Dear Achuthan Nair ji, > > Please do not take my claim of Parashuram's throwing of axe as a > counter-argument. This phenomena has a strong scientific edge as well. > We have a great deal of scientific evidences round the world where great > waters have eaten a good portion of land (like during decadel or > centennial floods) and on the other hand history has seen many great > lands which were surrendered by oceans/seas due to severe climates (by > drought or by freezing). In Srimad Bhagavattam, there are 3 strong > references to historical floods. One during Varaha avataram when > Hiranyakshan immersed earth into waters; second during Matsya avataram > which prolonged over 150 days (similar to the great flood said in Bible > during Noha's reign) and third one in Krishna avataram with the sinking > of Dwarika. > > Earlier this year, I came across an archeological video evidence that > there was a well-assessed human thought behind the creation of Krishna's > Dwarika. The spot was properly chosen by Lord Krishna for a greater > reason that area represented an extreme probability of a severe > declination and consequent uprise of ocean waters in a very short line > of time (~100yrs)...there is no other place on the planet which has > shown this characteristic in the past 5000 years. The timeline of ~ > 100yrs exactly matched with Krishna's life mission. > > Post effect of axe-throw and land retrievel by Parashuram : > On visiting Mannarashala temple (in Haripad) in late April'09, I had a > chance to buy the temple history book in which it is referred clearly > about this incident. More interesting was to know that when Parashurama > failed to convert the saline land to a fertile one for human use, he was > consoled and advised by Lord Siva to worship the great Nagas. You might > ask -- Why is that?? Lord Siva (who is the supreme doctor) unfold the > mystery that the venom of the great nagas have wonderful powers to > absorb the salinity of land. Beleive me -- the formula worked .. and the > temple was constructed as a symbol of protection. > > Hope it helps you in some way. > > Hare Krishna > Hare Rama > ________________________________ > > guruvayur [guruvayur ] On > Behalf Of anair1101 > Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:47 AM > guruvayur > [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? > > > > > Hari-Om > > There is scientific evidence, I believe, that land around the Kerala > coast emerged from the sea due to the effects of a Tsunami thousands of > years ago .Similarly Dwaraka in Gujarat sank due to the same reason. > Parasuraman was not around then.He had nothing to do with it. He had > given way to Sree Rama and Sree Krishna ! > The throwing of the axe is a falsified myth. In order to sustain their > foothold certain parties with vested interests in land ownership and > power sharing distorted many facts and successfully rewrote the > scriptures. The Parasuram tale is just one of them. > THere is a common belief that Parsuraman was a Pandyan King. > > Abraham Lincoln once said : > You may fool all the people some of the time; you may even fool some of > the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time. > > jai shree krishna ! > > Achuthan Nair > > > . > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=3388888/grpspId=1705838079/m > sgId=17766/stime=1248787316/nc1=3848585/nc2=5741395/nc3=5191955> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Om Namo Narayanaya This is in no way to contradict the views expressed, but to add my own "feelings" which may or may not be correct. When the land either was "created" or "found" by Shree Parasuraman, it could have been a barren land. We all know that earthworms are needed to make a land fertile one and he could have "invoked" his power to bring them to make the land a fertile one. But due to extensive use of "chemical" and "fertilizers", there are very few earthworms presently, and our land has become uncultivatable or "barren" again. The crops produced by these leftover "poisonous chemical" stuff are also becoming poisonous for consumption. Lord Krishna "showed" the world by "lifting" Govardhana Mountain (and) to worship, but now days, the mountains and forests are leveled (?). HE will never accept these kinds of atrocities, and thus we are "suffering" due to our own "actions". Luckily there are few "go(o)d" people around or amidst us that we are not completely "eliminated". Let us pray for HIS blessings by reciting Hari Nama Keerthanam to bring back "life" and prosperity to our "Earth" all over the world. Om Namo Narayanaya Chandrasekharan guruvayur , "PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy)" <vinod.ps wrote:>> !! Sri Rama Jayam !!> > Dear Achuthan Nair ji,> > Please do not take my claim of Parashuram's throwing of axe as a> counter-argument. This phenomena has a strong scientific edge as well.> We have a great deal of scientific evidences round the world where great> waters have eaten a good portion of land (like during decadel or> centennial floods) and on the other hand history has seen many great> lands which were surrendered by oceans/seas due to severe climates (by> drought or by freezing). In Srimad Bhagavattam, there are 3 strong> references to historical floods. One during Varaha avataram when> Hiranyakshan immersed earth into waters; second during Matsya avataram> which prolonged over 150 days (similar to the great flood said in Bible> during Noha's reign) and third one in Krishna avataram with the sinking> of Dwarika. > > Earlier this year, I came across an archeological video evidence that> there was a well-assessed human thought behind the creation of Krishna's> Dwarika. The spot was properly chosen by Lord Krishna for a greater> reason that area represented an extreme probability of a severe> declination and consequent uprise of ocean waters in a very short line> of time (~100yrs)...there is no other place on the planet which has> shown this characteristic in the past 5000 years. The timeline of ~> 100yrs exactly matched with Krishna's life mission.> > Post effect of axe-throw and land retrievel by Parashuram :> On visiting Mannarashala temple (in Haripad) in late April'09, I had a> chance to buy the temple history book in which it is referred clearly> about this incident. More interesting was to know that when Parashurama> failed to convert the saline land to a fertile one for human use, he was> consoled and advised by Lord Siva to worship the great Nagas. You might> ask -- Why is that?? Lord Siva (who is the supreme doctor) unfold the> mystery that the venom of the great nagas have wonderful powers to> absorb the salinity of land. Beleive me -- the formula worked .. and the> temple was constructed as a symbol of protection.> > Hope it helps you in some way.> > Hare Krishna> Hare Rama > ________________________________> > guruvayur [guruvayur ] On> Behalf Of anair1101> Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:47 AM> guruvayur > [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?> > > > > Hari-Om> > There is scientific evidence, I believe, that land around the Kerala> coast emerged from the sea due to the effects of a Tsunami thousands of> years ago .Similarly Dwaraka in Gujarat sank due to the same reason. > Parasuraman was not around then.He had nothing to do with it. He had> given way to Sree Rama and Sree Krishna !> The throwing of the axe is a falsified myth. In order to sustain their> foothold certain parties with vested interests in land ownership and> power sharing distorted many facts and successfully rewrote the> scriptures. The Parasuram tale is just one of them.> THere is a common belief that Parsuraman was a Pandyan King. > > Abraham Lincoln once said : > You may fool all the people some of the time; you may even fool some of> the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.> > jai shree krishna !> > Achuthan Nair> > > .> > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=3388888/grpspId=1705838079/m> sgId=17766/stime=1248787316/nc1=3848585/nc2=5741395/nc3=5191955>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Guruvayoorappa, Dear Devotees, I would like to fully and whole heartedly join hands with Punya Sree Chandrsekharanji in his sincere prayers by reciting Hari Nama Keerthanam to bring back ‘life’ and prosperity to our Mother Earth. Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam, mpr Thank you, Have a great day, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan. guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of Chandra Sekharan Menon Monday, August 03, 2009 1:01 PM guruvayur [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? Om Namo Narayanaya This is in no way to contradict the views expressed, but to add my own " feelings " which may or may not be correct. When the land either was " created " or " found " by Shree Parasuraman, it could have been a barren land. We all know that earthworms are needed to make a land fertile one and he could have " invoked " his power to bring them to make the land a fertile one. But due to extensive use of " chemical " and " fertilizers " , there are very few earthworms presently, and our land has become uncultivatable or " barren " again. The crops produced by these leftover " poisonous chemical " stuff are also becoming poisonous for consumption. Lord Krishna " showed " the world by " lifting " Govardhana Mountain (and) to worship, but now days, the mountains and forests are leveled (?). HE will never accept these kinds of atrocities, and thus we are " suffering " due to our own " actions " . Luckily there are few " go(o)d " people around or amidst us that we are not completely " eliminated " . Let us pray for HIS blessings by reciting Hari Nama Keerthanam to bring back " life " and prosperity to our " Earth " all over the world. Om Namo Narayanaya Chandrasekharan guruvayur , " PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy) " <vinod.ps wrote: > > !! Sri Rama Jayam !! > > Dear Achuthan Nair ji, > > Please do not take my claim of Parashuram's throwing of axe as a > counter-argument. This phenomena has a strong scientific edge as well. > We have a great deal of scientific evidences round the world where great > waters have eaten a good portion of land (like during decadel or > centennial floods) and on the other hand history has seen many great > lands which were surrendered by oceans/seas due to severe climates (by > drought or by freezing). In Srimad Bhagavattam, there are 3 strong > references to historical floods. One during Varaha avataram when > Hiranyakshan immersed earth into waters; second during Matsya avataram > which prolonged over 150 days (similar to the great flood said in Bible > during Noha's reign) and third one in Krishna avataram with the sinking > of Dwarika. > > Earlier this year, I came across an archeological video evidence that > there was a well-assessed human thought behind the creation of Krishna's > Dwarika. The spot was properly chosen by Lord Krishna for a greater > reason that area represented an extreme probability of a severe > declination and consequent uprise of ocean waters in a very short line > of time (~100yrs)...there is no other place on the planet which has > shown this characteristic in the past 5000 years. The timeline of ~ > 100yrs exactly matched with Krishna's life mission. > > Post effect of axe-throw and land retrievel by Parashuram : > On visiting Mannarashala temple (in Haripad) in late April'09, I had a > chance to buy the temple history book in which it is referred clearly > about this incident. More interesting was to know that when Parashurama > failed to convert the saline land to a fertile one for human use, he was > consoled and advised by Lord Siva to worship the great Nagas. You might > ask -- Why is that?? Lord Siva (who is the supreme doctor) unfold the > mystery that the venom of the great nagas have wonderful powers to > absorb the salinity of land. Beleive me -- the formula worked .. and the > temple was constructed as a symbol of protection. > > Hope it helps you in some way. > > Hare Krishna > Hare Rama > ________________________________ > > guruvayur [guruvayur ] On > Behalf Of anair1101 > Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:47 AM > guruvayur > [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? > > > > > Hari-Om > > There is scientific evidence, I believe, that land around the Kerala > coast emerged from the sea due to the effects of a Tsunami thousands of > years ago .Similarly Dwaraka in Gujarat sank due to the same reason. > Parasuraman was not around then.He had nothing to do with it. He had > given way to Sree Rama and Sree Krishna ! > The throwing of the axe is a falsified myth. In order to sustain their > foothold certain parties with vested interests in land ownership and > power sharing distorted many facts and successfully rewrote the > scriptures. The Parasuram tale is just one of them. > THere is a common belief that Parsuraman was a Pandyan King. > > Abraham Lincoln once said : > You may fool all the people some of the time; you may even fool some of > the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time. > > jai shree krishna ! > > Achuthan Nair > > > . > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=3388888/grpspId=1705838079/m > sgId=17766/stime=1248787316/nc1=3848585/nc2=5741395/nc3=5191955> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Dear MPR Nair, Chandrashekhara Menon and all others,Of course we need the prayers always. But we can do more along with the prayers. What we human do to the Mother Earth, HE gave us to use for our stay here in this world. It is not ours, we are just here as trustees, it all belongs to HIM. Please read the attached the articles, Sorry it is little too long. Please excuse me for that. ThanksSincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya The vow not to kill is great indeed, and greater still is non-eating of the flesh; there would be no butcher, if there is non to eat; in eating thus abides the cruder ill, as she/he is the reason for the killing. --- On Mon, 8/3/09, mprnair <nairradhakrishnan wrote:mprnair <nairradhakrishnanRE: [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 3:21 PM Guruvayoorappa, Dear Devotees, I would like to fully and whole heartedly join hands with Punya Sree Chandrsekharanji in his sincere prayers by reciting Hari Nama Keerthanam to bring back ‘life’ and prosperity to our Mother Earth. Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam, mpr Thank you, Have a great day, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com. guruvayur@grou ps.com [ guruvayur@grou ps.com ] On Behalf Of Chandra Sekharan Menon Monday, August 03, 2009 1:01 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? Om Namo Narayanaya This is in no way to contradict the views expressed, but to add my own "feelings" which may or may not be correct. When the land either was "created" or "found" by Shree Parasuraman, it could have been a barren land. We all know that earthworms are needed to make a land fertile one and he could have "invoked" his power to bring them to make the land a fertile one. But due to extensive use of "chemical" and "fertilizers" , there are very few earthworms presently, and our land has become uncultivatable or "barren" again. The crops produced by these leftover "poisonous chemical" stuff are also becoming poisonous for consumption.. Lord Krishna "showed" the world by "lifting" Govardhana Mountain (and) to worship, but now days, the mountains and forests are leveled (?). HE will never accept these kinds of atrocities, and thus we are "suffering" due to our own "actions". Luckily there are few "go(o)d" people around or amidst us that we are not completely "eliminated" . Let us pray for HIS blessings by reciting Hari Nama Keerthanam to bring back "life" and prosperity to our "Earth" all over the world. Om Namo Narayanaya Chandrasekharan guruvayur@grou ps.com , "PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy)" <vinod.ps wrote: > > !! Sri Rama Jayam !! > > Dear Achuthan Nair ji, > > Please do not take my claim of Parashuram's throwing of axe as a > counter-argument. This phenomena has a strong scientific edge as well. > We have a great deal of scientific evidences round the world where great > waters have eaten a good portion of land (like during decadel or > centennial floods) and on the other hand history has seen many great > lands which were surrendered by oceans/seas due to severe climates (by > drought or by freezing). In Srimad Bhagavattam, there are 3 strong > references to historical floods. One during Varaha avataram when > Hiranyakshan immersed earth into waters; second during Matsya avataram > which prolonged over 150 days (similar to the great flood said in Bible > during Noha's reign) and third one in Krishna avataram with the sinking > of Dwarika. > > Earlier this year, I came across an archeological video evidence that > there was a well-assessed human thought behind the creation of Krishna 's > Dwarika. The spot was properly chosen by Lord Krishna for a greater > reason that area represented an extreme probability of a severe > declination and consequent uprise of ocean waters in a very short line > of time (~100yrs)... there is no other place on the planet which has > shown this characteristic in the past 5000 years. The timeline of ~ > 100yrs exactly matched with Krishna 's life mission. > > Post effect of axe-throw and land retrievel by Parashuram : > On visiting Mannarashala temple (in Haripad) in late April'09, I had a > chance to buy the temple history book in which it is referred clearly > about this incident. More interesting was to know that when Parashurama > failed to convert the saline land to a fertile one for human use, he was > consoled and advised by Lord Siva to worship the great Nagas. You might > ask -- Why is that?? Lord Siva (who is the supreme doctor) unfold the > mystery that the venom of the great nagas have wonderful powers to > absorb the salinity of land. Beleive me -- the formula worked .. and the > temple was constructed as a symbol of protection. > > Hope it helps you in some way. > > Hare Krishna > Hare Rama > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > guruvayur@grou ps.com [ guruvayur ] On > Behalf Of anair1101 > Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:47 AM > guruvayur@grou ps.com > [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? > > > > > Hari-Om > > There is scientific evidence, I believe, that land around the Kerala > coast emerged from the sea due to the effects of a Tsunami thousands of > years ago .Similarly Dwaraka in Gujarat sank due to the same reason. > Parasuraman was not around then.He had nothing to do with it. He had > given way to Sree Rama and Sree Krishna ! > The throwing of the axe is a falsified myth. In order to sustain their > foothold certain parties with vested interests in land ownership and > power sharing distorted many facts and successfully rewrote the > scriptures. The Parasuram tale is just one of them. > THere is a common belief that Parsuraman was a Pandyan King. > > Abraham Lincoln once said : > You may fool all the people some of the time; you may even fool some of > the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time. > > jai shree krishna ! > > Achuthan Nair > > > . > > <http://geo.. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=3388888/ grpspId=17058380 79/m > sgId=17766/stime= 1248787316/ nc1=3848585/ nc2=5741395/ nc3=5191955> > 1 of 1 File(s) Meat and the environment.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Dear Achuthan Nair,Malayalees, especially Malayalees who claim to be Hindus are completely forgetting Shree Chattambi Swamikal and partially forgetting Shree Narayana Gurudevan. Every ill and ill effects of Malayalees and bharatheeyans and of the whole world can be solved if people study the spiritual treasures they both gave us through their writings, talks and deeds. Alas! even the so-called Hindus of Keralam don't learn their words and deeds.With regards and prayersSincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH. LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. Animals are to be loved, not eaten. Eating flesh is good neither for the mind nor for the intellect, not even for the body. It distorts the basic character of human. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, anair1101 <anair1101 wrote:anair1101 <anair1101[Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 1:39 PM Hari-Om Thank you Panickarji for the hint. It helped to clear certain mis-conceptions and misleading myths. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan nair guruvayur@grou ps.com, Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanicka r wrote: > > Dear Family members, > > I suggest all of you to read Chattambi Swamis writings on the subject. > > Sincerely, > Udayabhanu Panickar > aum namaH Shivaaya The vow not to kill is great indeed, and greater still is non-eating of the flesh; there would be no butcher, if there is non to eat; in eating thus abides the cruder ill, as she/he is the reason for the killing. > > --- On Sun, 7/26/09, anair1101 <anair1101@. ..> wrote: > > anair1101 <anair1101@. ..> > [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? > guruvayur@grou ps.com > Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari-Om > Parasuraman mazhu erinja katha paranja Keralam, Keralam mama Keralam mama Keralam ............ ......... ..... > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== > Parasurma is said to have created Keralam when he threw his mighty battle ax from a point in Kanyakumari northwards. Parasurama is the 6th incarnation of Mahavishnu. He was the wild warrior sage.. After killing the Kshatriyas, he does penance and brings in brahmins to populate and purify Keralam. > But Keralam existed before Parasurma's entrance. Mahabali the ideal king ruled Kerala until Vamana ( the 5th Avatar) in the form of a Brahmin boy expelled him to the Pathala loka but Keralam remained intact because Vamana alowed Mahabali to return to Kerala every year to bless his subjects. > Mahabali was banished because the Devas were jelous of him,; Mahabali was getting more popular among his subjects than the Devas themselves. > When Parasurama entered the scene, there was a well- organised and developed land that was left behind by Mahabali and populated by peace-loving inhabitants. . So how can Parasurama reclaim Kerala from the sea ? It would be logical if Parsurama was the 5th avatar and Vamana was the 6th not otherwise. > jai shree krishna ! > > Achuthan Nair. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Guruvayoorappan Saranam !!!! To the Krishna-bhaktas, Srimad Narayaneeyam which has been duly approved by Sri Guruvayoorappan Himself , is the authoritative reference book . Kerala's submergence and recovery are well explained in Narayaneeyam's Dasakam- 36, Sloka-11 : "Oh Bhagavan ! Then throwing away all divine weapons, You did penance on the Mahendra mountain. The earth was submerged upto Gokarna in the ocean; so the Maharishis prayed for Your help. Through Your power of meditation, You acquired bow and arrow and aimed the `AgneyAstra' at the ocean; the Lord of the ocean shaken by fear, started to withdraw; You threw the sacrificial ladle, the Sruva, into the ocean and brought up the land of Kerala, beyond which the waters of the ocean receded. Oh Lord Guruvayurappa ! May Your such wonderful exploits, protect me." It is true that both Shree Chattambi Swamikal and Shree Narayana Gurudevan were great sages . Both of them were worshippers of Lord Muruga and attained divine powers from Him . However, they have not much associated with Krishna-bhakti . It is true that Gurudevan was initially a worshipper of Shree Krishna and attained Bhagavan's vision. Also, he had cured his incurable Small pox by chanting Narayaneeyam . However, thereafter, Gurudevan focused more on the Shaivism. The mission of both these Sages was to attain the spiritual elevation of Avarnas and Sudras in Kaliyuga and they succeeded in that mission . However, their successors have failed miserably to sustain that spirituality and many have converted to atheism. Krishna-bhaktas are very happy with the day-to-day involvement of their visible Isha-deivatam Shree Guruvayoorappan who is quickly responding to their prayers and guiding continuously through Krishna-sages like Vilwamangalam, Melpathur, Poonthanam, Kurooramma, Kunikkavu, Neelakanta guru, Anjam Nambootiri, Malliyoor Sankaran Nampootirippadu, etc, etc, ….Also the Bhaktas are comfortable with the easy to practise scripture Srimad Narayaneeyam . Om Namo Narayanaya!!!! ------------------------- Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? Dear Achuthan Nair,Malayalees, especially Malayalees who claim to be Hindus are completely forgetting Shree Chattambi Swamikal and partially forgetting Shree Narayana Gurudevan. Every ill and ill effects of Malayalees and bharatheeyans and of the whole world can be solved if people study the spiritual treasures they both gave us through their writings, talks and deeds. Alas! even the so-called Hindus of Keralam don't learn their words and deeds.With regards and prayers Sincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH. LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. Animals are to be loved, not eaten. Eating flesh is good neither for the mind nor for the intellect, not even for the body. It distorts the basic character of human.> --- On Sun, 7/26/09, anair1101 <anair1101@. ..> wrote:> > anair1101 <anair1101@. ..>> [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?> guruvayur@grou ps.com> Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:35 PM> Hari-Om> Parasuraman mazhu erinja katha paranja Keralam, Keralam mama Keralam mama Keralam > Parasurma is said to have created Keralam when he threw his mighty battle ax from a point in Kanyakumari northwards. Parasurama is the 6th incarnation of Mahavishnu. He was the wild warrior sage.. After killing the Kshatriyas, he does penance and brings in brahmins to populate and purify Keralam. > But Keralam existed before Parasurma's entrance. Mahabali the ideal king ruled Kerala until Vamana ( the 5th Avatar) in the form of a Brahmin boy expelled him to the Pathala loka but Keralam remained intact because Vamana alowed Mahabali to return to Kerala every year to bless his subjects. > Mahabali was banished because the Devas were jelous of him,; Mahabali was getting more popular among his subjects than the Devas themselves. > When Parasurama entered the scene, there was a well- organised and developed land that was left behind by Mahabali and populated by peace-loving inhabitants. . So how can Parasurama reclaim Kerala from the sea ? It would be logical if Parsurama was the 5th avatar and Vamana was the 6th not otherwise.> jai shree krishna !> > Achuthan Nair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Dear Jayashankar,I am little backed up on my communications. I don't know if I answered you or not.I have the books by Chattampi Swamikal in printed form. Some of His works are available on the internet in PDF format. I don't know how many of them. Here is the link for one of them. 12729537-KRISTUMATA-CHEDANAM-Malayalam.pdfIf you search for it and find more let me also have the links. I am planning to convert (which ever is not available on the net) some of them to PDF and up load when I get some time I may convert them and upload.Sincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH. LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. Animals are to be loved, not eaten. Eating flesh is good neither for the mind nor for the intellect, not even for the body. It distorts the basic character of human. --- On Tue, 7/28/09, jayasankar vattekkat <vinodvattekkat wrote:jayasankar vattekkat <vinodvattekkatFw: Re: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?"GURUVAYURAPPAN" <guruvayur >Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:29 AM Pranamam Panickerji, Can you please give me that link With Prayers, Jayasankar Vattekkat --- On Tue, 28/7/09, Udayabhanu Panickar <udayabhanupanickar@ > wrote: Udayabhanu Panickar <udayabhanupanickar@ >Re: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur@grou ps.comTuesday, 28 July, 2009, 1:30 AM Dear Seemaji and others,As I wrote earlier, if you have access to Shree Chattambi Swamikal's writing on this subject, please read it.Sincerely,Udayabhanu Panickar aum namaH ShivAya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH, LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY.--- On Mon, 7/27/09, Seema Warrier <seemawarrier@ grouply.com> wrote: Seema Warrier <seemawarrier@ grouply.com>Re: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 10:21 AM A doubt. How come then Onam is celebrated in Kerala, but not in any other part of India. Legend behind Onam is Mahabali comes to meet his people. And as the song goes: "maaveli naadu vanidum kalam, manusharellarum onnu polle". Jayasree Menon <euroanuster@ gmail.com>guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, July 27, 2009 8:49:54 AMRe: [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? Hari Om! Mahabali has not ruled Keralam. He was as per puranas, ruling a part of Gujarat. 2009/7/27 anair1101 <anair1101 > Hari-Om Parasuraman mazhu erinja katha paranja Keralam, Keralam mama Keralam mama Keralam ............ . ......... ..... ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== Parasurma is said to have created Keralam when he threw his mighty battle ax from a point in Kanyakumari northwards. Parasurama is the 6th incarnation of Mahavishnu. He was the wild warrior sage.. After killing the Kshatriyas, he does penance and brings in brahmins to populate and purify Keralam. But Keralam existed before Parasurma's entrance. Mahabali the ideal king ruled Kerala until Vamana ( the 5th Avatar) in the form of a Brahmin boy expelled him to the Pathala loka but Keralam remained intact because Vamana alowed Mahabali to return to Kerala every year to bless his subjects. Mahabali was banished because the Devas were jelous of him,; Mahabali was getting more popular among his subjects than the Devas themselves. When Parasurama entered the scene, there was a well- organised and developed land that was left behind by Mahabali and populated by peace-loving inhabitants. . So how can Parasurama reclaim Kerala from the sea ? It would be logical if Parsurama was the 5th avatar and Vamana was the 6th not otherwise. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair. -- Best regardsJayasree MenonBangalore+9900149461my blog link: http://www.pythruka m.blogspot. com/------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----A well-thought out plan, execution excellence, market timing, personal leadership are drivers of the growth trajectory. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 OM NAMO NARAYANAYAParasurama belongs Krithayuga, he met Shrirama in Threthayuga, He was the instructuctor of Karna in Dwaparayga, and finally it is said that, he installed the idol of Ayyappa in Sabarimala in this kaliyuna. Bacause parasurama is chiranjeevi. Then there is no question to be born before or after Vamana.OM NAMO NARAYANAYASURESH KURUP--- On Thu, 24/9/09, Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanickar wrote:Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanickarRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur Date: Thursday, 24 September, 2009, 11:05 PM Dear Achuthan Nair,Malayalees, especially Malayalees who claim to be Hindus are completely forgetting Shree Chattambi Swamikal and partially forgetting Shree Narayana Gurudevan. Every ill and ill effects of Malayalees and bharatheeyans and of the whole world can be solved if people study the spiritual treasures they both gave us through their writings, talks and deeds. Alas! even the so-called Hindus of Keralam don't learn their words and deeds.With regards and prayersSincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH. LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. Animals are to be loved, not eaten. Eating flesh is good neither for the mind nor for the intellect, not even for the body. It distorts the basic character of human. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, anair1101 <anair1101 > wrote:anair1101 <anair1101 >[Guruvayur] Re: Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ?guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 1:39 PM Hari-Om Thank you Panickarji for the hint. It helped to clear certain mis-conceptions and misleading myths. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan nair guruvayur@grou ps.com, Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanicka r wrote: > > Dear Family members, > > I suggest all of you to read Chattambi Swamis writings on the subject. > > Sincerely, > Udayabhanu Panickar > aum namaH Shivaaya The vow not to kill is great indeed, and greater still is non-eating of the flesh; there would be no butcher, if there is non to eat; in eating thus abides the cruder ill, as she/he is the reason for the killing. > > --- On Sun, 7/26/09, anair1101 <anair1101@. ..> wrote: > > anair1101 <anair1101@. ..> > [Guruvayur] Parasurama's Keralam. A Contradiction ? > guruvayur@grou ps.com > Sunday, July 26, 2009, 5:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari-Om > Parasuraman mazhu erinja katha paranja Keralam, Keralam mama Keralam mama Keralam ............ ......... ..... > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== > Parasurma is said to have created Keralam when he threw his mighty battle ax from a point in Kanyakumari northwards. Parasurama is the 6th incarnation of Mahavishnu. He was the wild warrior sage.. After killing the Kshatriyas, he does penance and brings in brahmins to populate and purify Keralam. > But Keralam existed before Parasurma's entrance. Mahabali the ideal king ruled Kerala until Vamana ( the 5th Avatar) in the form of a Brahmin boy expelled him to the Pathala loka but Keralam remained intact because Vamana alowed Mahabali to return to Kerala every year to bless his subjects. > Mahabali was banished because the Devas were jelous of him,; Mahabali was getting more popular among his subjects than the Devas themselves. > When Parasurama entered the scene, there was a well- organised and developed land that was left behind by Mahabali and populated by peace-loving inhabitants. . So how can Parasurama reclaim Kerala from the sea ? It would be logical if Parsurama was the 5th avatar and Vamana was the 6th not otherwise. > jai shree krishna ! > > Achuthan Nair. > > Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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