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namo narayanaDear all,

Since we had posts on the exploitation of elephants, we as devotees of Lord Sri Krishna must definitely pay attention to the plight of His most beloved animal, the Cow (Go-mata).

 

Just recently on Sri Krishna Jayanthi, we bathed Lord Sri Krishna in milk, curd, ghee and offered Him His favourite naivedhyams such as paal payasam, ghee and butter.

 

However we must be aware how this milk is obtained in this Kali yugam, especially where milk is obtained in commerical farming techniques (as in big cities in India and especially here in the US).Before this exploitative factory farming age, our saints used to procure Milk products in harmony and without cruelty, the milk was taken from the cow only after the calf has had it's fill and the cow was worshipped as Go-matha. Such offerings are certainly pleasing to the Lord.However in the present age, factory produced milk is a very cruel exploitative product of torturing cattle. The poor cows are enclosed in a tiny space, chained in its own waste in darkness, cold and filth for the rest of its life. It is pumped with insane amounts of hormones, and other toxic medications to artifically increase milk production.

 

These large amounts of hormones, antibiotics and other unnatural feed, cause the cow to grow large and make it prone to bone fractures and other very painful diseases. To add to this torture the cows are artifically inseminated to produce calves to ensure regular supply of milk.

 

The most unfortunate of the calves are male calves (called Bobby calves) who are considered to be useless and are sold off to be butchered for meat when they are just five days old. The mother cows separated from their calves cry in agony, yet they are not spared and are administered more hormones to continue milking them.After milking the cow till it has been exhausted and after ensuring that the cow cannot yield anymore milk, it is sold off to be slaughtered in the most brutal manner for meat and leather.I request all bhaktas to please think about this, will our Lord ever accept our abhiseghams and Naivedhyams if it means that His favourite innocent animals are killed slowly and extemely painfully all their lives?Let us not act in an adharmic manner and perform unthinkable atoricities and sins by offerring factory produced milk and milk based products especially in our sacred rituals and also in our diets. I can

only be certain that we shall never suceed in our sadhana if it causes so much needless pain for innocent animals.We can however use cruelty-free alternative solutions such as

 

1. Ensuring that we buy milk from establishments which are community farms were the cows are not exploited (Go-shaalas)

 

2. Restrict and replace cow-milk, with vegan alternatives such as soy milk, rice milk, coconut milk,

 

3. Perform abhishegams with traditional auspicous dhravyams such as sugarcane juice, fruit juice, coconut juice, turmeric water, saffron water, camphor water, thulasi water, cardomum-clove water...... as cruelty free offerings.

 

Instead of milk-based abhishegams, please think of donating the equivalent amount to cow shelters such as http://www.careforcows.org/, these noble people help and resue abused cows who would have ended in illegal slaughter houses in India,

 

4. Do not buy leather products such as shoes, belts, purses etc (leather in India comes mainly fro illegal slaughter of cattle) and do not eat sweets. choclates and desserts which contain Gelatin (a by product of slaughtered cattle)

 

5. Create more awarness of this issue and support community Go-shalas.I humbly pray and request all of us to please be aware of this very cruel and sad situation of our "Go-matha", and refrain from passively encouraging this exploitation. This should not be restricted to only cows, but should be extended to save all commerical farm animals from abuse.

 

It is very contradictory that the most important symbol of Sanathana Dharma, the cow is being tortured in our own Bharat.

 

While we as Hindus abhor beef eating, we do not bat an eyelid to allow our (holy?) cows to be tortured all their lives for drinking their milk, how can we ever escape the karmic repercussions of such an atrocity.

 

Next time you eat an ice-cream, chocolate or eat paayasam please think for a while the plight of the cow.

 

Sincerely,Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram wrote:

Savitri Puram <savitriopuramRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Namasthe- Njanappana 12guruvayur Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:31 AM

 

Dear Achyuthan Nairji,

 

I agree 100% with you. We are making these animals suffer in the name of God for our own pleasure. It is cruelty. Even Guruvayur devaswom elephants are not treated with kindness. I have witnessed it several times even inside the temple.

 

ബനàµà´§àµà´° കാഞàµà´šà´¨ കൂടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´²à´¾à´£àµ†à´™àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´‚

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à´Žà´¤àµà´° ശരിയാണെനàµà´¨àµ ആനകളàµà´‚ പറഞàµà´žàµ à´•à´£àµà´£àµ€à´°àµâ€ തൂകàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´±à´ªàµà´ªà´¾à´£àµ . Even a golden cage with all comforts is no match to the freedom given by God, what about their complete പാരതനàµà´¤àµà´°àµà´¯à´‚ even to move their legs evenly? There is no end to their suffering. Who else other than Bhagavvan can change the present situation?

Regards and prayers

 

savitri

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, anair1101 <anair1101 > wrote:

 

 

 

Hari-Om=======nairji, You are right. There is a huge differene between A mad elephant and an elephant in Musth.Musth is a biological occurance in bull elephnts and a necessary one It is somthing like an animal in heat. THe animal becomes restless. feel emotionaly weak and agressive. Mad elephants are very rare . They become more aggressive when in captivity.In this case it is a misunderstanding and due to the wrong usage of an english word. No big deal. English is not our mother tongue.As for the mistreatment of animals, especially elephants, Keralites take the front seat followed by Thailand , Burma and the so-called animal loving (pets ) developed nations like USA, UK, Germany etc.one only has to go to the zoo or the Ringling Brothers circus to witness how elephants are chained, tortured and starved. All for the fun and entertainment of human beings. In Kerala they do it in the name of God. They

claim shree Guruvayoorappn loves elephants . Very true but He did not mean tht they should be captured, beaten with sticks, poked with razor sharp spears. and starved until they submit to the Mahout and his boss and companions. The Lord does not want these helpless animals to be captured ,chained, beaten and paraded in front of Him by drunken mahouts in the name of Utsavam. We do not do it for Him but , for our own enjoyment. Most of these elephants are owned by logging industry bosses and during night hired out for temple festivals. They have no rest and are made to walk hundreds of miles daily in hot sun with no drinking water , walking on sizzling tarmac roads burning the skin underfoot. We are hypocrats with no heart and compassion, but only naked greed for money.Let the animals roam free in the natural surroundings , as it in the Ambosili national park or Serengeti in Africa, We might learn if we are put in the same sitution, chained,

beaten and starved.Krishna, Guruvayoorapp, don't you see the cruelty of these so called bhaktas of yours ? God save our helpless elephants.jai shree krishna !Achuthan Nair

 

guruvayur@grou ps.com, "NB Nair" <nbnair2000@. ..> wrote:>> > HARI AUM> > With due respect and regard for the excellent service rendered to> theGroup by Savitripuramji, I would like to point out one specific usage> thatpained me and is still persisting after almost a month.> > In [Naamam persuades us to strive with thedetermination and force of a> "matthagajam"or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage]: > "matthagajam" is not a mad elephant, but anelephant in> `musth'. A matthagajam, intotal contrast to a mad elephant, is> very much focused and bestowed with allhis power in its most heightened> form by Mother Nature to fulfill his NiyukthaKarmam,

procreation, in its> most divine sense. The hapless aspect of a "matthagajam in> chains" would have been verywell known to Poonthanam who had> personally experienced the pains of not havingas well as having lost an> offspring in his own life.> > Sucha noble soul like Poonthanam perhaps used this simile not only to> impress up onthe power of prayers in liberating the devotees from the> bondage of life andbirth but also to point out the paradox in our> practice of keeping inphysical bondage for life some fellow creatures in> the false hope of securingliberation for ourselves from the spiritual> bondage.> > So,it may be emphasised that the practice pointed out as a simile is not> keepingmad elephants in chains but elephants in musth – the most> cruelest ofcruelties!> > Letus take Poonthanam's message in its totality: at least in

our> prayers let ustreat all His creations with due dignity by not failing to> dissociate ourselvesfrom anything to the contrary.> > Please be generous to spare a few minutes andcorrect me, if I am wrong.> > Regards to all,> NB Nair.> > guruvayur@grou ps.com, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@>> wrote:> >> > Njanappaana 12> >> > Ponnin changala onnipparanjathil> > onnirumbu kondennathre bhedangal> > Randinaalumeduthu panichaiytha> > Changalayallo misramaam karmavum> >> > Bondage comes from three types of karmaas and one string (changala)> formed> > as a result of satkarmaas or punyakarmaas or good deeds is made

of> Gold> > (ponnin), another one (onnu) formed as a result of paapa karmaas or> negative> > karmaas or dushkarmaas is made of Iron (irumbu) and the third string> (> > formed as a result of the mixture of the above two types of> > karmaas-misrakarmam ) is made of a mixture of both Gold and Iron> > (randinaalumeduthu pani cheytha).> >> > Even though Gold and Iron are different metals with entirely different> > properties, when they are used for tying or binding some one it hardly> makes> > any difference for the bound victim. The word "changala" and> "thalakkuka"> > are usually used for chaining elephants. By using these words,> Poonthanam> > brings out the fact that breaking the strings of bondage is as> difficult for> > us as it is for an elephant to break it's thick Iron chain. But

with> lot of> > effort, sometimes elephants do break and run to freedom. So with> continuous> > and sincere effort human beings blessed with the power of> discrimination,> > can break all three binding chains. Even people with predominantly> satva> > gunaas find it hard to break the bondage effortlessly. As long as> their> > satkarmmas are result oriented, they will not be freed from the cycle> of> > birth and death. They live to enjoy the results of satkarmaas, again> do> > satkarmaas to be born again and again. Only renunciation of the fruits> of> > action can break the bondage for Punyaatmaas (great souls), Paapis> (sinned> > souls) and those punyaathma-paapaath ma combination souls . The only> > difference is that when we do Paapa karmaas we are subjected to> negative> >

experiences and punya karmaas yield positive experiences and mixture> of both> > will give both positive and negative experiences. But eternal freedom> from> > this cycle calls for Nishkaama karmam.> >> > Even if a cage is made of Gold, a bird sees it only as a cage in which> it is> > trapped. It does not enjoy the beauty of Gold. It only wants freedom.> > Likewise our souls craves for eternal freedom to join the Parmaathma.> > Because of the avidya or ignorance, jeevathma goes after transient> pleasures> > and with egoistic actions accumulate all three types of karmaas.> Poonthaanam> > advises us to do naamasnkeerthanam which removes ignorance and makes> us> > realize that we are trapped in this eternal cycle of birth and death.> Naamam> > persuades us to strive with the determination and force

of a> "matthagajam"> > or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage. Poet assures that this> force> > to break the chain can be derived from chanting Lord's name. By the> power of> > Naamajapam even an athiest (who does not believe in God or in prayers)> goes> > through different stages of Bhakthi or devotion and reach the highest> state> > of Uttama Bhaktha or perfect devotee.A Bhaagavatotthama ( the highest> type> > of devotee ) is one , who sees the glory of Bahgavan in all animate> and> > inanimate beings , and also perceives all beings as dwelling in Him.> So all> > his karmaas become an offering to God and practically becomes a> > Jeevanmuktha. Then he discards the body when the results of the> accumulated> > karmaas are exhausted and merges with the Paramaathma.> >>

> Where does God live? Bhagavan says to Narada:> >> > Naham vasami vaikunte na yogi hrudaye ravau> > Mad bhaktha: yatra gayanti tatra thishtami narada.> >> > "I dwell not in Vaikundha, not in the hearts of yogis, nor in the Sun,> I> > live where my devotees sing my glory and divine names."> >> > So let us sing along with Poonthanam, Narada muni and millions of> devotees:> >> > Krishna! Krishna! Munkunda! Janaardana!> > Krishna! Govinda! Naarayana! Hare!> > Achyuthaananda! Govinda! Maadhava!> > Sachinthaananda! Naraayana! Hare!> >> > Sreekrishnaarpanams thu> >> > Regards and prayers> >> > savitri> >>

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Dear Kamleshji:

 

You speak the truth with eloquence. I have thought this myself and have wanted to write to Swamiji to ask that he request devotees to purchase organic milk or soymilk for abishekam. While it may take awhile for people to do, if it is emphasized, they will slowly observe this most important act of ahimsa in their worship of the Lord. In fact, you have inspired me to request your permission to forward this email to him as my request that he consider this change in procedure at the temple as you

speak the truth with such eloquence and honesty. If it is not organic, you can be certain that the cows were abused in some way to obtain the milk. Thank you

for your post. May the Lord shower His blessings upon you for your courage in

saying these words. Offering my namaskarams to you.

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Hare Krishna!!!

 

 

 

-

Veryytterium

guruvayur

Monday, August 17, 2009 9:24 AM

[Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

 

 

 

 

 

namo narayanaDear all,

Since we had posts on the exploitation of elephants, we as devotees of Lord Sri Krishna must definitely pay attention to the plight of His most beloved animal, the Cow (Go-mata).

 

Just recently on Sri Krishna Jayanthi, we bathed Lord Sri Krishna in milk, curd, ghee and offered Him His favourite naivedhyams such as paal payasam, ghee and butter.

 

However we must be aware how this milk is obtained in this Kali yugam, especially where milk is obtained in commerical farming techniques (as in big cities in India and especially here in the US).Before this exploitative factory farming age, our saints used to procure Milk products in harmony and without cruelty, the milk was taken from the cow only after the calf has had it's fill and the cow was worshipped as Go-matha. Such offerings are certainly pleasing to the Lord.However in the present age, factory produced milk is a very cruel exploitative product of torturing cattle. The poor cows are enclosed in a tiny space, chained in its own waste in darkness, cold and filth for the rest of its life. It is pumped with insane amounts of hormones, and other toxic medications to artifically increase milk production.

 

These large amounts of hormones, antibiotics and other unnatural feed, cause the cow to grow large and make it prone to bone fractures and other very painful diseases. To add to this torture the cows are artifically inseminated to produce calves to ensure regular supply of milk.

 

The most unfortunate of the calves are male calves (called Bobby calves) who are considered to be useless and are sold off to be butchered for meat when they are just five days old. The mother cows separated from their calves cry in agony, yet they are not spared and are administered more hormones to continue milking them.After milking the cow till it has been exhausted and after ensuring that the cow cannot yield anymore milk, it is sold off to be slaughtered in the most brutal manner for meat and leather.I request all bhaktas to please think about this, will our Lord ever accept our abhiseghams and Naivedhyams if it means that His favourite innocent animals are killed slowly and extemely painfully all their lives?Let us not act in an adharmic manner and perform unthinkable atoricities and sins by offerring factory produced milk and milk based products especially in our sacred rituals and also in our diets. I can only be certain that we shall never suceed in our sadhana if it causes so much needless pain for innocent animals.We can however use cruelty-free alternative solutions such as

 

1. Ensuring that we buy milk from establishments which are community farms were the cows are not exploited (Go-shaalas)

 

2. Restrict and replace cow-milk, with vegan alternatives such as soy milk, rice milk, coconut milk,

 

3. Perform abhishegams with traditional auspicous dhravyams such as sugarcane juice, fruit juice, coconut juice, turmeric water, saffron water, camphor water, thulasi water, cardomum-clove water...... as cruelty free offerings.

 

Instead of milk-based abhishegams, please think of donating the equivalent amount to cow shelters such as http://www.careforcows.org/, these noble people help and resue abused cows who would have ended in illegal slaughter houses in India,

 

4. Do not buy leather products such as shoes, belts, purses etc (leather in India comes mainly fro illegal slaughter of cattle) and do not eat sweets. choclates and desserts which contain Gelatin (a by product of slaughtered cattle)

 

5. Create more awarness of this issue and support community Go-shalas.I humbly pray and request all of us to please be aware of this very cruel and sad situation of our "Go-matha", and refrain from passively encouraging this exploitation. This should not be restricted to only cows, but should be extended to save all commerical farm animals from abuse.

 

It is very contradictory that the most important symbol of Sanathana Dharma, the cow is being tortured in our own Bharat.

 

While we as Hindus abhor beef eating, we do not bat an eyelid to allow our (holy?) cows to be tortured all their lives for drinking their milk, how can we ever escape the karmic repercussions of such an atrocity.

 

Next time you eat an ice-cream, chocolate or eat paayasam please think for a while the plight of the cow.

 

Sincerely,Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram > wrote:

Savitri Puram <savitriopuram >Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Namasthe- Njanappana 12guruvayur Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:31 AM

 

Dear Achyuthan Nairji,

 

I agree 100% with you. We are making these animals suffer in the name of God for our own pleasure. It is cruelty. Even Guruvayur devaswom elephants are not treated with kindness. I have witnessed it several times even inside the temple.

 

ബനàµà´§àµà´° കാഞàµà´šà´¨ കൂടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´²à´¾à´£àµ†à´™àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´‚

ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ തനàµà´¨àµ† പാരിലàµâ€

à´Žà´¤àµà´° ശരിയാണെനàµà´¨àµ ആനകളàµà´‚ പറഞàµà´žàµ à´•à´£àµà´£àµ€à´°àµâ€ തൂകàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´±à´ªàµà´ªà´¾à´£àµ . Even a golden cage with all comforts is no match to the freedom given by God, what about their complete പാരതനàµà´¤àµà´°àµà´¯à´‚ even to move their legs evenly? There is no end to their suffering. Who else other than Bhagavvan can change the present situation?

Regards and prayers

 

savitri

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, anair1101 <anair1101 > wrote:

 

 

 

Hari-Om=======nairji, You are right. There is a huge differene between A mad elephant and an elephant in Musth.Musth is a biological occurance in bull elephnts and a necessary one It is somthing like an animal in heat. THe animal becomes restless. feel emotionaly weak and agressive. Mad elephants are very rare . They become more aggressive when in captivity.In this case it is a misunderstanding and due to the wrong usage of an english word. No big deal. English is not our mother tongue.As for the mistreatment of animals, especially elephants, Keralites take the front seat followed by Thailand , Burma and the so-called animal loving (pets ) developed nations like USA, UK, Germany etc.one only has to go to the zoo or the Ringling Brothers circus to witness how elephants are chained, tortured and starved. All for the fun and entertainment of human beings. In Kerala they do it in the name of God. They claim shree Guruvayoorappn loves elephants . Very true but He did not mean tht they should be captured, beaten with sticks, poked with razor sharp spears. and starved until they submit to the Mahout and his boss and companions. The Lord does not want these helpless animals to be captured ,chained, beaten and paraded in front of Him by drunken mahouts in the name of Utsavam. We do not do it for Him but , for our own enjoyment. Most of these elephants are owned by logging industry bosses and during night hired out for temple festivals. They have no rest and are made to walk hundreds of miles daily in hot sun with no drinking water , walking on sizzling tarmac roads burning the skin underfoot. We are hypocrats with no heart and compassion, but only naked greed for money.Let the animals roam free in the natural surroundings , as it in the Ambosili national park or Serengeti in Africa, We might learn if we are put in the same sitution, chained, beaten and starved.Krishna, Guruvayoorapp, don't you see the cruelty of these so called bhaktas of yours ? God save our helpless elephants.jai shree krishna !Achuthan Nair

 

guruvayur@grou ps.com, "NB Nair" <nbnair2000@. ..> wrote:>> > HARI AUM> > With due respect and regard for the excellent service rendered to> theGroup by Savitripuramji, I would like to point out one specific usage> thatpained me and is still persisting after almost a month.> > In [Naamam persuades us to strive with thedetermination and force of a> "matthagajam"or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage]: > "matthagajam" is not a mad elephant, but anelephant in> `musth'. A matthagajam, intotal contrast to a mad elephant, is> very much focused and bestowed with allhis power in its most heightened> form by Mother Nature to fulfill his NiyukthaKarmam, procreation, in its> most divine sense. The hapless aspect of a "matthagajam in> chains" would have been verywell known to Poonthanam who had> personally experienced the pains of not havingas well as having lost an> offspring in his own life.> > Sucha noble soul like Poonthanam perhaps used this simile not only to> impress up onthe power of prayers in liberating the devotees from the> bondage of life andbirth but also to point out the paradox in our> practice of keeping inphysical bondage for life some fellow creatures in> the false hope of securingliberation for ourselves from the spiritual> bondage.> > So,it may be emphasised that the practice pointed out as a simile is not> keepingmad elephants in chains but elephants in musth – the most> cruelest ofcruelties!> > Letus take Poonthanam's message in its totality: at least in our> prayers let ustreat all His creations with due dignity by not failing to> dissociate ourselvesfrom anything to the contrary.> > Please be generous to spare a few minutes andcorrect me, if I am wrong.> > Regards to all,> NB Nair.> > guruvayur@grou ps.com, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@>> wrote:> >> > Njanappaana 12> >> > Ponnin changala onnipparanjathil> > onnirumbu kondennathre bhedangal> > Randinaalumeduthu panichaiytha> > Changalayallo misramaam karmavum> >> > Bondage comes from three types of karmaas and one string (changala)> formed> > as a result of satkarmaas or punyakarmaas or good deeds is made of> Gold> > (ponnin), another one (onnu) formed as a result of paapa karmaas or> negative> > karmaas or dushkarmaas is made of Iron (irumbu) and the third string> (> > formed as a result of the mixture of the above two types of> > karmaas-misrakarmam ) is made of a mixture of both Gold and Iron> > (randinaalumeduthu pani cheytha).> >> > Even though Gold and Iron are different metals with entirely different> > properties, when they are used for tying or binding some one it hardly> makes> > any difference for the bound victim. The word "changala" and> "thalakkuka"> > are usually used for chaining elephants. By using these words,> Poonthanam> > brings out the fact that breaking the strings of bondage is as> difficult for> > us as it is for an elephant to break it's thick Iron chain. But with> lot of> > effort, sometimes elephants do break and run to freedom. So with> continuous> > and sincere effort human beings blessed with the power of> discrimination,> > can break all three binding chains. Even people with predominantly> satva> > gunaas find it hard to break the bondage effortlessly. As long as> their> > satkarmmas are result oriented, they will not be freed from the cycle> of> > birth and death. They live to enjoy the results of satkarmaas, again> do> > satkarmaas to be born again and again. Only renunciation of the fruits> of> > action can break the bondage for Punyaatmaas (great souls), Paapis> (sinned> > souls) and those punyaathma-paapaath ma combination souls . The only> > difference is that when we do Paapa karmaas we are subjected to> negative> > experiences and punya karmaas yield positive experiences and mixture> of both> > will give both positive and negative experiences. But eternal freedom> from> > this cycle calls for Nishkaama karmam.> >> > Even if a cage is made of Gold, a bird sees it only as a cage in which> it is> > trapped. It does not enjoy the beauty of Gold. It only wants freedom.> > Likewise our souls craves for eternal freedom to join the Parmaathma.> > Because of the avidya or ignorance, jeevathma goes after transient> pleasures> > and with egoistic actions accumulate all three types of karmaas.> Poonthaanam> > advises us to do naamasnkeerthanam which removes ignorance and makes> us> > realize that we are trapped in this eternal cycle of birth and death.> Naamam> > persuades us to strive with the determination and force of a> "matthagajam"> > or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage. Poet assures that this> force> > to break the chain can be derived from chanting Lord's name. By the> power of> > Naamajapam even an athiest (who does not believe in God or in prayers)> goes> > through different stages of Bhakthi or devotion and reach the highest> state> > of Uttama Bhaktha or perfect devotee.A Bhaagavatotthama ( the highest> type> > of devotee ) is one , who sees the glory of Bahgavan in all animate> and> > inanimate beings , and also perceives all beings as dwelling in Him.> So all> > his karmaas become an offering to God and practically becomes a> > Jeevanmuktha. Then he discards the body when the results of the> accumulated> > karmaas are exhausted and merges with the Paramaathma.> >> > Where does God live? Bhagavan says to Narada:> >> > Naham vasami vaikunte na yogi hrudaye ravau> > Mad bhaktha: yatra gayanti tatra thishtami narada.> >> > "I dwell not in Vaikundha, not in the hearts of yogis, nor in the Sun,> I> > live where my devotees sing my glory and divine names."> >> > So let us sing along with Poonthanam, Narada muni and millions of> devotees:> >> > Krishna! Krishna! Munkunda! Janaardana!> > Krishna! Govinda! Naarayana! Hare!> > Achyuthaananda! Govinda! Maadhava!> > Sachinthaananda! Naraayana! Hare!> >> > Sreekrishnaarpanams thu> >> > Regards and prayers> >> > savitri> >>

 

 

 

 

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namo narayana

 

Respected Devotee,

 

I am very satisfied that my email on cow protection has inspired at least one member of this group, I shall be very fortunate if you spread this awareness to the largest audience possible.

 

Personally I have been a strict vegetarian since childhood, but I used to drink milk and eat milk products with delight. When I came to the US, I came across some articles regarding the plight of the dairy cows and how they are abused all their lives and finally miserably slaughtered ending as dog food and leather which left me disgusted.

 

After much research and reading on this topic, I decided that I am not going to be a part of this cruel, demonic system which treats the sacred cows in such a brutal manner, I prayed to Lord Sri Krishna to give me the strength to completely avoid milk, and milk based products. Being a strict vegetarian in the US itself was tough, and giving up milk was difficult indeed in the beginning but HE gave me the strength. I found soy-milk, tofu products etc to be wonderful cruelty-free alternatives. Now since two years I have not had any milk products and I just find no difference in my lifestyle.

 

I also want to narrate an incident which happened on Gokulasthami last year. My friends and I had arranged a big Sri Krishna puja and the topic came, what we are going to offer Him for His abhishekams and Naivedhyams?

 

I had made my mind that I will NOT offer Sri Krishna, milk products obtained from cruel practice but will offer non-milk based naivedhyams. However my other friend said that we should offer Him milk based food as it is His favourite.

 

However we need the Lord's opinion and not our own, so we called one senior devotee friend (who was neutral) from ISKCON, and he prayed in front of Sri Krishna and then tossed a coin and the devotee friend said that the Lord did not want to be offered milk obtained by inhuman means.

 

I was very satisfied and humbled that the Lord had approved my decision, and we conducted His puja, with great pomp. We bathed Him in turmeric water, coconut water, chandana water etc and offered Him rava laddoos, thattais, paruppu payasam (made from coconut milk), appams, rava kesari all made without any milk products. Even this year I celebrated Gokulashtami without any milk-based products and it was very satisfying to know that my celebration was not based on some innocent animals suffering and death.

 

The reason I state this is that we can still have all our traditional celebrations and rituals without causing torturing these poor animals. We only have to be sensitive to pain and suffering of others and try to relive their pain, this will be our true service and puja to Lord Sri Krishna.

 

The term “Organic Milk†can be misleading, while it is true that organic milk will ensure that the cow is not given hormones or antibiotics, it does not ensure that the cow is not repeatedly artificially inseminated nor does it ensure that the cow (and its male calves) are not killed after it has stopped giving milk for meat and leather.

Hence we need to make sure that the milk is completely obtained humanely, which is possible only in Go-shalas.

 

We need to spread this awareness to all Hindus and also to our archaryas and gurus so that they can find an alternative to this menace which conforms to our non-violent dharmic principles.

 

Let us not incur horrendous bad karmas by indirectly causing the suffering and deaths of our sacred cows.

 

 

Sincerely,

Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

Radhe <shaantihRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur Cc: veryytteriumDate: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:30 PM

 Dear Kamleshji:

 

You speak the truth with eloquence. I have thought this myself and have wanted to write to Swamiji to ask that he request devotees to purchase organic milk or soymilk for abishekam. While it may take awhile for people to do, if it is emphasized, they will slowly observe this most important act of ahimsa in their worship of the Lord. In fact, you have inspired me to request your permission to forward this email to him as my request that he consider this change in procedure at the temple as you

speak the truth with such eloquence and honesty. If it is not organic, you can be certain that the cows were abused in some way to obtain the milk. Thank you

for your post. May the Lord shower His blessings upon you for your courage in

saying these words. Offering my namaskarams to you.

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Hare Krishna!!!

 

 

 

-

Veryytterium

guruvayur

Monday, August 17, 2009 9:24 AM

[Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

namo narayanaDear all,

Since we had posts on the exploitation of elephants, we as devotees of Lord Sri Krishna must definitely pay attention to the plight of His most beloved animal, the Cow (Go-mata).

 

Just recently on Sri Krishna Jayanthi, we bathed Lord Sri Krishna in milk, curd, ghee and offered Him His favourite naivedhyams such as paal payasam, ghee and butter.

 

However we must be aware how this milk is obtained in this Kali yugam, especially where milk is obtained in commerical farming techniques (as in big cities in India and especially here in the US).Before this exploitative factory farming age, our saints used to procure Milk products in harmony and without cruelty, the milk was taken from the cow only after the calf has had it's fill and the cow was worshipped as Go-matha. Such offerings are certainly pleasing to the Lord.However in the present age, factory produced milk is a very cruel exploitative product of torturing cattle. The poor cows are enclosed in a tiny space, chained in its own waste in darkness, cold and filth for the rest of its life. It is pumped with insane amounts of hormones, and other toxic medications to artifically increase milk production.

 

These large amounts of hormones, antibiotics and other unnatural feed, cause the cow to grow large and make it prone to bone fractures and other very painful diseases. To add to this torture the cows are artifically inseminated to produce calves to ensure regular supply of milk.

 

The most unfortunate of the calves are male calves (called Bobby calves) who are considered to be useless and are sold off to be butchered for meat when they are just five days old. The mother cows separated from their calves cry in agony, yet they are not spared and are administered more hormones to continue milking them.After milking the cow till it has been exhausted and after ensuring that the cow cannot yield anymore milk, it is sold off to be slaughtered in the most brutal manner for meat and leather.I request all bhaktas to please think about this, will our Lord ever accept our abhiseghams and Naivedhyams if it means that His favourite innocent animals are killed slowly and extemely painfully all their lives?Let us not act in an adharmic manner and perform unthinkable atoricities and sins by offerring factory produced milk and milk based products especially in our sacred rituals and also in our diets. I can

only be certain that we shall never suceed in our sadhana if it causes so much needless pain for innocent animals.We can however use cruelty-free alternative solutions such as

 

1. Ensuring that we buy milk from establishments which are community farms were the cows are not exploited (Go-shaalas)

 

2. Restrict and replace cow-milk, with vegan alternatives such as soy milk, rice milk, coconut milk,

 

3. Perform abhishegams with traditional auspicous dhravyams such as sugarcane juice, fruit juice, coconut juice, turmeric water, saffron water, camphor water, thulasi water, cardomum-clove water...... as cruelty free offerings.

 

Instead of milk-based abhishegams, please think of donating the equivalent amount to cow shelters such as http://www.careforc ows.org/, these noble people help and resue abused cows who would have ended in illegal slaughter houses in India,

 

4. Do not buy leather products such as shoes, belts, purses etc (leather in India comes mainly fro illegal slaughter of cattle) and do not eat sweets. choclates and desserts which contain Gelatin (a by product of slaughtered cattle)

 

5. Create more awarness of this issue and support community Go-shalas.I humbly pray and request all of us to please be aware of this very cruel and sad situation of our "Go-matha", and refrain from passively encouraging this exploitation. This should not be restricted to only cows, but should be extended to save all commerical farm animals from abuse.

 

It is very contradictory that the most important symbol of Sanathana Dharma, the cow is being tortured in our own Bharat.

 

While we as Hindus abhor beef eating, we do not bat an eyelid to allow our (holy?) cows to be tortured all their lives for drinking their milk, how can we ever escape the karmic repercussions of such an atrocity.

 

Next time you eat an ice-cream, chocolate or eat paayasam please think for a while the plight of the cow.

 

Sincerely,Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com> wrote:

Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com>Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Namasthe- Njanappana 12guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, August 17, 2009, 8:31 AM

 

Dear Achyuthan Nairji,

 

I agree 100% with you. We are making these animals suffer in the name of God for our own pleasure. It is cruelty. Even Guruvayur devaswom elephants are not treated with kindness. I have witnessed it several times even inside the temple.

 

ബനàµà´§àµà´° കാഞàµà´šà´¨ കൂടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´²à´¾à´£àµ†à´™àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´‚

ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ തനàµà´¨àµ† പാരിലàµâ€

à´Žà´¤àµà´° ശരിയാണെനàµà´¨àµ ആനകളàµà´‚ പറഞàµà´žàµ à´•à´£àµà´£àµ€à´°àµâ€ തൂകàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´±à´ªàµà´ªà´¾à´£àµ . Even a golden cage with all comforts is no match to the freedom given by God, what about their complete പാരതനàµà´¤àµà´°àµà´¯à´‚ even to move their legs evenly? There is no end to their suffering. Who else other than Bhagavvan can change the present situation?

Regards and prayers

 

savitri

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, anair1101 <anair1101 > wrote:

 

 

 

Hari-Om=======nairji, You are right. There is a huge differene between A mad elephant and an elephant in Musth.Musth is a biological occurance in bull elephnts and a necessary one It is somthing like an animal in heat. THe animal becomes restless. feel emotionaly weak and agressive. Mad elephants are very rare . They become more aggressive when in captivity.In this case it is a misunderstanding and due to the wrong usage of an english word. No big deal. English is not our mother tongue.As for the mistreatment of animals, especially elephants, Keralites take the front seat followed by Thailand , Burma and the so-called animal loving (pets ) developed nations like USA, UK, Germany etc.one only has to go to the zoo or the Ringling Brothers circus to witness how elephants are chained, tortured and starved. All for the fun and entertainment of human beings. In Kerala they do it in the name of God. They

claim shree Guruvayoorappn loves elephants . Very true but He did not mean tht they should be captured, beaten with sticks, poked with razor sharp spears. and starved until they submit to the Mahout and his boss and companions. The Lord does not want these helpless animals to be captured ,chained, beaten and paraded in front of Him by drunken mahouts in the name of Utsavam. We do not do it for Him but , for our own enjoyment. Most of these elephants are owned by logging industry bosses and during night hired out for temple festivals. They have no rest and are made to walk hundreds of miles daily in hot sun with no drinking water , walking on sizzling tarmac roads burning the skin underfoot. We are hypocrats with no heart and compassion, but only naked greed for money.Let the animals roam free in the natural surroundings , as it in the Ambosili national park or Serengeti in Africa, We might learn if we are put in the same sitution, chained,

beaten and starved.Krishna, Guruvayoorapp, don't you see the cruelty of these so called bhaktas of yours ? God save our helpless elephants.jai shree krishna !Achuthan Nair

 

guruvayur@grou ps.com, "NB Nair" <nbnair2000@. ..> wrote:>> > HARI AUM> > With due respect and regard for the excellent service rendered to> theGroup by Savitripuramji, I would like to point out one specific usage> thatpained me and is still persisting after almost a month.> > In [Naamam persuades us to strive with thedetermination and force of a> "matthagajam" or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage]: > "matthagajam" is not a mad elephant, but anelephant in> `musth'. A matthagajam, intotal contrast to a mad elephant, is> very much focused and bestowed with allhis power in its most heightened> form by Mother Nature to fulfill his NiyukthaKarmam, procreation, in its> most divine sense. The

hapless aspect of a "matthagajam in> chains" would have been verywell known to Poonthanam who had> personally experienced the pains of not havingas well as having lost an> offspring in his own life.> > Sucha noble soul like Poonthanam perhaps used this simile not only to> impress up onthe power of prayers in liberating the devotees from the> bondage of life andbirth but also to point out the paradox in our> practice of keeping inphysical bondage for life some fellow creatures in> the false hope of securingliberation for ourselves from the spiritual> bondage.> > So,it may be emphasised that the practice pointed out as a simile is not> keepingmad elephants in chains but elephants in musth – the most> cruelest ofcruelties!> > Letus take Poonthanam's message in its totality: at least in our> prayers let ustreat all His creations with due

dignity by not failing to> dissociate ourselvesfrom anything to the contrary.> > Please be generous to spare a few minutes andcorrect me, if I am wrong.> > Regards to all,> NB Nair.> > guruvayur@grou ps.com, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@>> wrote:> >> > Njanappaana 12> >> > Ponnin changala onnipparanjathil> > onnirumbu kondennathre bhedangal> > Randinaalumeduthu panichaiytha> > Changalayallo misramaam karmavum> >> > Bondage comes from three types of karmaas and one string (changala)> formed> > as a result of satkarmaas or punyakarmaas or good deeds is made of> Gold> > (ponnin), another one (onnu) formed as a result of paapa karmaas

or> negative> > karmaas or dushkarmaas is made of Iron (irumbu) and the third string> (> > formed as a result of the mixture of the above two types of> > karmaas-misrakarmam ) is made of a mixture of both Gold and Iron> > (randinaalumeduthu pani cheytha).> >> > Even though Gold and Iron are different metals with entirely different> > properties, when they are used for tying or binding some one it hardly> makes> > any difference for the bound victim. The word "changala" and> "thalakkuka"> > are usually used for chaining elephants. By using these words,> Poonthanam> > brings out the fact that breaking the strings of bondage is as> difficult for> > us as it is for an elephant to break it's thick Iron chain. But with> lot of> > effort, sometimes elephants do break and run to freedom. So

with> continuous> > and sincere effort human beings blessed with the power of> discrimination,> > can break all three binding chains. Even people with predominantly> satva> > gunaas find it hard to break the bondage effortlessly. As long as> their> > satkarmmas are result oriented, they will not be freed from the cycle> of> > birth and death. They live to enjoy the results of satkarmaas, again> do> > satkarmaas to be born again and again. Only renunciation of the fruits> of> > action can break the bondage for Punyaatmaas (great souls), Paapis> (sinned> > souls) and those punyaathma-paapaath ma combination souls . The only> > difference is that when we do Paapa karmaas we are subjected to> negative> > experiences and punya karmaas yield positive experiences and mixture> of both>

> will give both positive and negative experiences. But eternal freedom> from> > this cycle calls for Nishkaama karmam.> >> > Even if a cage is made of Gold, a bird sees it only as a cage in which> it is> > trapped. It does not enjoy the beauty of Gold. It only wants freedom.> > Likewise our souls craves for eternal freedom to join the Parmaathma.> > Because of the avidya or ignorance, jeevathma goes after transient> pleasures> > and with egoistic actions accumulate all three types of karmaas.> Poonthaanam> > advises us to do naamasnkeerthanam which removes ignorance and makes> us> > realize that we are trapped in this eternal cycle of birth and death.> Naamam> > persuades us to strive with the determination and force of a> "matthagajam"> > or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage. Poet

assures that this> force> > to break the chain can be derived from chanting Lord's name. By the> power of> > Naamajapam even an athiest (who does not believe in God or in prayers)> goes> > through different stages of Bhakthi or devotion and reach the highest> state> > of Uttama Bhaktha or perfect devotee.A Bhaagavatotthama ( the highest> type> > of devotee ) is one , who sees the glory of Bahgavan in all animate> and> > inanimate beings , and also perceives all beings as dwelling in Him.> So all> > his karmaas become an offering to God and practically becomes a> > Jeevanmuktha. Then he discards the body when the results of the> accumulated> > karmaas are exhausted and merges with the Paramaathma.> >> > Where does God live? Bhagavan says to Narada:> >> > Naham vasami

vaikunte na yogi hrudaye ravau> > Mad bhaktha: yatra gayanti tatra thishtami narada.> >> > "I dwell not in Vaikundha, not in the hearts of yogis, nor in the Sun,> I> > live where my devotees sing my glory and divine names."> >> > So let us sing along with Poonthanam, Narada muni and millions of> devotees:> >> > Krishna! Krishna! Munkunda! Janaardana!> > Krishna! Govinda! Naarayana! Hare!> > Achyuthaananda! Govinda! Maadhava!> > Sachinthaananda! Naraayana! Hare!> >> > Sreekrishnaarpanams thu> >> > Regards and prayers> >> > savitri> >>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Kamleshji:

 

Thank you for clarifying the issue regarding organic products.

Perhaps you can tell us more about Go-shalas and how to

find them. At home, I only cook with soy products...the Lord

nudged me to solidify this path by making me realize that I was allergic to milk products :-) Many people know they are lactose

intolerant because of stomache upset. Alot of people do not

realize that milk can also cause skin conditions, which was the

case with me. (Many parents do not realize that their infant's

excema and other skin problems may be coming from formula.)

 

Combining that with my slow realization of the suffering of the animals, mainly due to the publication of this issue by PETA, and from posting on some of my elists, much like you have done, I have found my way to

this approach. However, I do still accept the milk prasadam from

the abishekam as I do not feel as if to refuse it is the answer.

I do not know the answer and trust Him to lead me there,

sometimes slowly!!! Tonight was easy...somehow it never

came my way ;-)

 

Like you, I have found that cooking with soy yogurt and soy butter produces results with which I am satisfied. You can tell the difference but it is something you become accustomed to as time goes on. And coconut milk makes a wonderful substitute in some recipes. It is such a small effort for such a large cause!!! While watching one's karmic account may have

its place, it seems to me that having one's actions grounded in

ahimsa for the Lord's creatures, all of them, calls to our spiritual

conscience with the power of the sounding of the conch.

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Hare Krishna!!!

 

 

-

Veryytterium

guruvayur ; Radhe

Monday, August 17, 2009 4:57 PM

Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

namo narayana

 

Respected Devotee,

 

I am very satisfied that my email on cow protection has inspired at least one member of this group, I shall be very fortunate if you spread this awareness to the largest audience possible.

 

Personally I have been a strict vegetarian since childhood, but I used to drink milk and eat milk products with delight. When I came to the US, I came across some articles regarding the plight of the dairy cows and how they are abused all their lives and finally miserably slaughtered ending as dog food and leather which left me disgusted.

 

After much research and reading on this topic, I decided that I am not going to be a part of this cruel, demonic system which treats the sacred cows in such a brutal manner, I prayed to Lord Sri Krishna to give me the strength to completely avoid milk, and milk based products. Being a strict vegetarian in the US itself was tough, and giving up milk was difficult indeed in the beginning but HE gave me the strength. I found soy-milk, tofu products etc to be wonderful cruelty-free alternatives. Now since two years I have not had any milk products and I just find no difference in my lifestyle.

 

I also want to narrate an incident which happened on Gokulasthami last year. My friends and I had arranged a big Sri Krishna puja and the topic came, what we are going to offer Him for His abhishekams and Naivedhyams?

 

I had made my mind that I will NOT offer Sri Krishna, milk products obtained from cruel practice but will offer non-milk based naivedhyams. However my other friend said that we should offer Him milk based food as it is His favourite.

 

However we need the Lord's opinion and not our own, so we called one senior devotee friend (who was neutral) from ISKCON, and he prayed in front of Sri Krishna and then tossed a coin and the devotee friend said that the Lord did not want to be offered milk obtained by inhuman means.

 

I was very satisfied and humbled that the Lord had approved my decision, and we conducted His puja, with great pomp. We bathed Him in turmeric water, coconut water, chandana water etc and offered Him rava laddoos, thattais, paruppu payasam (made from coconut milk), appams, rava kesari all made without any milk products. Even this year I celebrated Gokulashtami without any milk-based products and it was very satisfying to know that my celebration was not based on some innocent animals suffering and death.

 

The reason I state this is that we can still have all our traditional celebrations and rituals without causing torturing these poor animals. We only have to be sensitive to pain and suffering of others and try to relive their pain, this will be our true service and puja to Lord Sri Krishna.

 

The term “Organic Milk†can be misleading, while it is true that organic milk will ensure that the cow is not given hormones or antibiotics, it does not ensure that the cow is not repeatedly artificially inseminated nor does it ensure that the cow (and its male calves) are not killed after it has stopped giving milk for meat and leather.

Hence we need to make sure that the milk is completely obtained humanely, which is possible only in Go-shalas.

 

We need to spread this awareness to all Hindus and also to our archaryas and gurus so that they can find an alternative to this menace which conforms to our non-violent dharmic principles.

 

Let us not incur horrendous bad karmas by indirectly causing the suffering and deaths of our sacred cows.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

Radhe <shaantihRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur Cc: veryytteriumDate: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:30 PM

 Dear Kamleshji:

 

You speak the truth with eloquence. I have thought this myself and have wanted to write to Swamiji to ask that he request devotees to purchase organic milk or soymilk for abishekam. While it may take awhile for people to do, if it is emphasized, they will slowly observe this most important act of ahimsa in their worship of the Lord. In fact, you have inspired me to request your permission to forward this email to him as my request that he consider this change in procedure at the temple as you

speak the truth with such eloquence and honesty. If it is not organic, you can be certain that the cows were abused in some way to obtain the milk. Thank you

for your post. May the Lord shower His blessings upon you for your courage in

saying these words. Offering my namaskarams to you.

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Hare Krishna!!!

 

 

 

-

Veryytterium

guruvayur

Monday, August 17, 2009 9:24 AM

[Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

namo narayanaDear all,

Since we had posts on the exploitation of elephants, we as devotees of Lord Sri Krishna must definitely pay attention to the plight of His most beloved animal, the Cow (Go-mata).

 

Just recently on Sri Krishna Jayanthi, we bathed Lord Sri Krishna in milk, curd, ghee and offered Him His favourite naivedhyams such as paal payasam, ghee and butter.

 

However we must be aware how this milk is obtained in this Kali yugam, especially where milk is obtained in commerical farming techniques (as in big cities in India and especially here in the US).Before this exploitative factory farming age, our saints used to procure Milk products in harmony and without cruelty, the milk was taken from the cow only after the calf has had it's fill and the cow was worshipped as Go-matha. Such offerings are certainly pleasing to the Lord.However in the present age, factory produced milk is a very cruel exploitative product of torturing cattle. The poor cows are enclosed in a tiny space, chained in its own waste in darkness, cold and filth for the rest of its life. It is pumped with insane amounts of hormones, and other toxic medications to artifically increase milk production.

 

These large amounts of hormones, antibiotics and other unnatural feed, cause the cow to grow large and make it prone to bone fractures and other very painful diseases. To add to this torture the cows are artifically inseminated to produce calves to ensure regular supply of milk.

 

The most unfortunate of the calves are male calves (called Bobby calves) who are considered to be useless and are sold off to be butchered for meat when they are just five days old. The mother cows separated from their calves cry in agony, yet they are not spared and are administered more hormones to continue milking them.After milking the cow till it has been exhausted and after ensuring that the cow cannot yield anymore milk, it is sold off to be slaughtered in the most brutal manner for meat and leather.I request all bhaktas to please think about this, will our Lord ever accept our abhiseghams and Naivedhyams if it means that His favourite innocent animals are killed slowly and extemely painfully all their lives?Let us not act in an adharmic manner and perform unthinkable atoricities and sins by offerring factory produced milk and milk based products especially in our sacred rituals and also in our diets. I can only be certain that we shall never suceed in our sadhana if it causes so much needless pain for innocent animals.We can however use cruelty-free alternative solutions such as

 

1. Ensuring that we buy milk from establishments which are community farms were the cows are not exploited (Go-shaalas)

 

2. Restrict and replace cow-milk, with vegan alternatives such as soy milk, rice milk, coconut milk,

 

3. Perform abhishegams with traditional auspicous dhravyams such as sugarcane juice, fruit juice, coconut juice, turmeric water, saffron water, camphor water, thulasi water, cardomum-clove water...... as cruelty free offerings.

 

Instead of milk-based abhishegams, please think of donating the equivalent amount to cow shelters such as http://www.careforc ows.org/, these noble people help and resue abused cows who would have ended in illegal slaughter houses in India,

 

4. Do not buy leather products such as shoes, belts, purses etc (leather in India comes mainly fro illegal slaughter of cattle) and do not eat sweets. choclates and desserts which contain Gelatin (a by product of slaughtered cattle)

 

5. Create more awarness of this issue and support community Go-shalas.I humbly pray and request all of us to please be aware of this very cruel and sad situation of our "Go-matha", and refrain from passively encouraging this exploitation. This should not be restricted to only cows, but should be extended to save all commerical farm animals from abuse.

 

It is very contradictory that the most important symbol of Sanathana Dharma, the cow is being tortured in our own Bharat.

 

While we as Hindus abhor beef eating, we do not bat an eyelid to allow our (holy?) cows to be tortured all their lives for drinking their milk, how can we ever escape the karmic repercussions of such an atrocity.

 

Next time you eat an ice-cream, chocolate or eat paayasam please think for a while the plight of the cow.

 

Sincerely,Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com> wrote:

Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com>Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Namasthe- Njanappana 12guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, August 17, 2009, 8:31 AM

 

Dear Achyuthan Nairji,

 

I agree 100% with you. We are making these animals suffer in the name of God for our own pleasure. It is cruelty. Even Guruvayur devaswom elephants are not treated with kindness. I have witnessed it several times even inside the temple.

 

ബനàµà´§àµà´° കാഞàµà´šà´¨ കൂടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´²à´¾à´£àµ†à´™àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´‚

ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ തനàµà´¨àµ† പാരിലàµâ€

à´Žà´¤àµà´° ശരിയാണെനàµà´¨àµ ആനകളàµà´‚ പറഞàµà´žàµ à´•à´£àµà´£àµ€à´°àµâ€ തൂകàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´±à´ªàµà´ªà´¾à´£àµ . Even a golden cage with all comforts is no match to the freedom given by God, what about their complete പാരതനàµà´¤àµà´°àµà´¯à´‚ even to move their legs evenly? There is no end to their suffering. Who else other than Bhagavvan can change the present situation?

Regards and prayers

 

savitri

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, anair1101 <anair1101 > wrote:

 

 

 

Hari-Om=======nairji, You are right. There is a huge differene between A mad elephant and an elephant in Musth.Musth is a biological occurance in bull elephnts and a necessary one It is somthing like an animal in heat. THe animal becomes restless. feel emotionaly weak and agressive. Mad elephants are very rare . They become more aggressive when in captivity.In this case it is a misunderstanding and due to the wrong usage of an english word. No big deal. English is not our mother tongue.As for the mistreatment of animals, especially elephants, Keralites take the front seat followed by Thailand , Burma and the so-called animal loving (pets ) developed nations like USA, UK, Germany etc.one only has to go to the zoo or the Ringling Brothers circus to witness how elephants are chained, tortured and starved. All for the fun and entertainment of human beings. In Kerala they do it in the name of God. They claim shree Guruvayoorappn loves elephants . Very true but He did not mean tht they should be captured, beaten with sticks, poked with razor sharp spears. and starved until they submit to the Mahout and his boss and companions. The Lord does not want these helpless animals to be captured ,chained, beaten and paraded in front of Him by drunken mahouts in the name of Utsavam. We do not do it for Him but , for our own enjoyment. Most of these elephants are owned by logging industry bosses and during night hired out for temple festivals. They have no rest and are made to walk hundreds of miles daily in hot sun with no drinking water , walking on sizzling tarmac roads burning the skin underfoot. We are hypocrats with no heart and compassion, but only naked greed for money.Let the animals roam free in the natural surroundings , as it in the Ambosili national park or Serengeti in Africa, We might learn if we are put in the same sitution, chained, beaten and starved.Krishna, Guruvayoorapp, don't you see the cruelty of these so called bhaktas of yours ? God save our helpless elephants.jai shree krishna !Achuthan Nair

 

guruvayur@grou ps.com, "NB Nair" <nbnair2000@. ..> wrote:>> > HARI AUM> > With due respect and regard for the excellent service rendered to> theGroup by Savitripuramji, I would like to point out one specific usage> thatpained me and is still persisting after almost a month.> > In [Naamam persuades us to strive with thedetermination and force of a> "matthagajam" or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage]: > "matthagajam" is not a mad elephant, but anelephant in> `musth'. A matthagajam, intotal contrast to a mad elephant, is> very much focused and bestowed with allhis power in its most heightened> form by Mother Nature to fulfill his NiyukthaKarmam, procreation, in its> most divine sense. The hapless aspect of a "matthagajam in> chains" would have been verywell known to Poonthanam who had> personally experienced the pains of not havingas well as having lost an> offspring in his own life.> > Sucha noble soul like Poonthanam perhaps used this simile not only to> impress up onthe power of prayers in liberating the devotees from the> bondage of life andbirth but also to point out the paradox in our> practice of keeping inphysical bondage for life some fellow creatures in> the false hope of securingliberation for ourselves from the spiritual> bondage.> > So,it may be emphasised that the practice pointed out as a simile is not> keepingmad elephants in chains but elephants in musth – the most> cruelest ofcruelties!> > Letus take Poonthanam's message in its totality: at least in our> prayers let ustreat all His creations with due dignity by not failing to> dissociate ourselvesfrom anything to the contrary.> > Please be generous to spare a few minutes andcorrect me, if I am wrong.> > Regards to all,> NB Nair.> > guruvayur@grou ps.com, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@>> wrote:> >> > Njanappaana 12> >> > Ponnin changala onnipparanjathil> > onnirumbu kondennathre bhedangal> > Randinaalumeduthu panichaiytha> > Changalayallo misramaam karmavum> >> > Bondage comes from three types of karmaas and one string (changala)> formed> > as a result of satkarmaas or punyakarmaas or good deeds is made of> Gold> > (ponnin), another one (onnu) formed as a result of paapa karmaas or> negative> > karmaas or dushkarmaas is made of Iron (irumbu) and the third string> (> > formed as a result of the mixture of the above two types of> > karmaas-misrakarmam ) is made of a mixture of both Gold and Iron> > (randinaalumeduthu pani cheytha).> >> > Even though Gold and Iron are different metals with entirely different> > properties, when they are used for tying or binding some one it hardly> makes> > any difference for the bound victim. The word "changala" and> "thalakkuka"> > are usually used for chaining elephants. By using these words,> Poonthanam> > brings out the fact that breaking the strings of bondage is as> difficult for> > us as it is for an elephant to break it's thick Iron chain. But with> lot of> > effort, sometimes elephants do break and run to freedom. So with> continuous> > and sincere effort human beings blessed with the power of> discrimination,> > can break all three binding chains. Even people with predominantly> satva> > gunaas find it hard to break the bondage effortlessly. As long as> their> > satkarmmas are result oriented, they will not be freed from the cycle> of> > birth and death. They live to enjoy the results of satkarmaas, again> do> > satkarmaas to be born again and again. Only renunciation of the fruits> of> > action can break the bondage for Punyaatmaas (great souls), Paapis> (sinned> > souls) and those punyaathma-paapaath ma combination souls . The only> > difference is that when we do Paapa karmaas we are subjected to> negative> > experiences and punya karmaas yield positive experiences and mixture> of both> > will give both positive and negative experiences. But eternal freedom> from> > this cycle calls for Nishkaama karmam.> >> > Even if a cage is made of Gold, a bird sees it only as a cage in which> it is> > trapped. It does not enjoy the beauty of Gold. It only wants freedom.> > Likewise our souls craves for eternal freedom to join the Parmaathma.> > Because of the avidya or ignorance, jeevathma goes after transient> pleasures> > and with egoistic actions accumulate all three types of karmaas.> Poonthaanam> > advises us to do naamasnkeerthanam which removes ignorance and makes> us> > realize that we are trapped in this eternal cycle of birth and death.> Naamam> > persuades us to strive with the determination and force of a> "matthagajam"> > or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage. Poet assures that this> force> > to break the chain can be derived from chanting Lord's name. By the> power of> > Naamajapam even an athiest (who does not believe in God or in prayers)> goes> > through different stages of Bhakthi or devotion and reach the highest> state> > of Uttama Bhaktha or perfect devotee.A Bhaagavatotthama ( the highest> type> > of devotee ) is one , who sees the glory of Bahgavan in all animate> and> > inanimate beings , and also perceives all beings as dwelling in Him.> So all> > his karmaas become an offering to God and practically becomes a> > Jeevanmuktha. Then he discards the body when the results of the> accumulated> > karmaas are exhausted and merges with the Paramaathma.> >> > Where does God live? Bhagavan says to Narada:> >> > Naham vasami vaikunte na yogi hrudaye ravau> > Mad bhaktha: yatra gayanti tatra thishtami narada.> >> > "I dwell not in Vaikundha, not in the hearts of yogis, nor in the Sun,> I> > live where my devotees sing my glory and divine names."> >> > So let us sing along with Poonthanam, Narada muni and millions of> devotees:> >> > Krishna! Krishna! Munkunda! Janaardana!> > Krishna! Govinda! Naarayana! Hare!> > Achyuthaananda! Govinda! Maadhava!> > Sachinthaananda! Naraayana! Hare!> >> > Sreekrishnaarpanams thu> >> > Regards and prayers> >> > savitri> >>

 

 

 

 

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I am very much impressed by the research you had done about the misuse of the cow. In rural India the situation is not that bad. They have not yet started feeding the cows harmones etc. Cows eat just green grass and the cow feed and are hand milched. The farmer sells his milk to a milk cooperative, who sell it to their federation where it is processed and distributed to the public in packets.

But cattle bones, hoof and horns are there in many products we use say in tooth paste, capsules, jel products etc. Our lifestyle is so much entwined with these products that impossible to live without them. One of the Indian brand tooth pastes advertise that it is the only vegetarian tooth paste available in the market. Wherever gelatine is to be used, they can find a vegetarian substitute like china grass, but they may have their own industrial connections to be nurtured and that is why they use gelatine increasingly.

Anyhow cow is to be protected at all costs. It is our kamadenu.

 

--- On Mon, 17/8/09, Veryytterium <veryytterium wrote:

Veryytterium <veryytterium[Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur Date: Monday, 17 August, 2009, 6:54 PM

 

 

 

 

 

namo narayanaDear all,

Since we had posts on the exploitation of elephants, we as devotees of Lord Sri Krishna must definitely pay attention to the plight of His most beloved animal, the Cow (Go-mata).

 

Just recently on Sri Krishna Jayanthi, we bathed Lord Sri Krishna in milk, curd, ghee and offered Him His favourite naivedhyams such as paal payasam, ghee and butter.

 

However we must be aware how this milk is obtained in this Kali yugam, especially where milk is obtained in commerical farming techniques (as in big cities in India and especially here in the US).Before this exploitative factory farming age, our saints used to procure Milk products in harmony and without cruelty, the milk was taken from the cow only after the calf has had it's fill and the cow was worshipped as Go-matha. Such offerings are certainly pleasing to the Lord.However in the present age, factory produced milk is a very cruel exploitative product of torturing cattle. The poor cows are enclosed in a tiny space, chained in its own waste in darkness, cold and filth for the rest of its life. It is pumped with insane amounts of hormones, and other toxic medications to artifically increase milk production.

 

These large amounts of hormones, antibiotics and other unnatural feed, cause the cow to grow large and make it prone to bone fractures and other very painful diseases. To add to this torture the cows are artifically inseminated to produce calves to ensure regular supply of milk.

 

The most unfortunate of the calves are male calves (called Bobby calves) who are considered to be useless and are sold off to be butchered for meat when they are just five days old. The mother cows separated from their calves cry in agony, yet they are not spared and are administered more hormones to continue milking them.After milking the cow till it has been exhausted and after ensuring that the cow cannot yield anymore milk, it is sold off to be slaughtered in the most brutal manner for meat and leather.I request all bhaktas to please think about this, will our Lord ever accept our abhiseghams and Naivedhyams if it means that His favourite innocent animals are killed slowly and extemely painfully all their lives?Let us not act in an adharmic manner and perform unthinkable atoricities and sins by offerring factory produced milk and milk based products especially in our sacred rituals and also in our diets. I can

only be certain that we shall never suceed in our sadhana if it causes so much needless pain for innocent animals.We can however use cruelty-free alternative solutions such as

 

1. Ensuring that we buy milk from establishments which are community farms were the cows are not exploited (Go-shaalas)

 

2. Restrict and replace cow-milk, with vegan alternatives such as soy milk, rice milk, coconut milk,

 

3. Perform abhishegams with traditional auspicous dhravyams such as sugarcane juice, fruit juice, coconut juice, turmeric water, saffron water, camphor water, thulasi water, cardomum-clove water...... as cruelty free offerings.

 

Instead of milk-based abhishegams, please think of donating the equivalent amount to cow shelters such as http://www.careforc ows.org/, these noble people help and resue abused cows who would have ended in illegal slaughter houses in India,

 

4. Do not buy leather products such as shoes, belts, purses etc (leather in India comes mainly fro illegal slaughter of cattle) and do not eat sweets. choclates and desserts which contain Gelatin (a by product of slaughtered cattle)

 

5. Create more awarness of this issue and support community Go-shalas.I humbly pray and request all of us to please be aware of this very cruel and sad situation of our "Go-matha", and refrain from passively encouraging this exploitation. This should not be restricted to only cows, but should be extended to save all commerical farm animals from abuse.

 

It is very contradictory that the most important symbol of Sanathana Dharma, the cow is being tortured in our own Bharat.

 

While we as Hindus abhor beef eating, we do not bat an eyelid to allow our (holy?) cows to be tortured all their lives for drinking their milk, how can we ever escape the karmic repercussions of such an atrocity.

 

Next time you eat an ice-cream, chocolate or eat paayasam please think for a while the plight of the cow.

 

Sincerely,Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com> wrote:

Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com>Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Namasthe- Njanappana 12guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, August 17, 2009, 8:31 AM

 

Dear Achyuthan Nairji,

 

I agree 100% with you. We are making these animals suffer in the name of God for our own pleasure. It is cruelty. Even Guruvayur devaswom elephants are not treated with kindness. I have witnessed it several times even inside the temple.

 

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Regards and prayers

 

savitri

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, anair1101 <anair1101 > wrote:

 

 

 

Hari-Om=======nairji, You are right. There is a huge differene between A mad elephant and an elephant in Musth.Musth is a biological occurance in bull elephnts and a necessary one It is somthing like an animal in heat. THe animal becomes restless. feel emotionaly weak and agressive. Mad elephants are very rare . They become more aggressive when in captivity.In this case it is a misunderstanding and due to the wrong usage of an english word. No big deal. English is not our mother tongue.As for the mistreatment of animals, especially elephants, Keralites take the front seat followed by Thailand , Burma and the so-called animal loving (pets ) developed nations like USA, UK, Germany etc..one only has to go to the zoo or the Ringling Brothers circus to witness how elephants are chained, tortured and starved. All for the fun and entertainment of human beings. In Kerala they do it in the name of God. They

claim shree Guruvayoorappn loves elephants . Very true but He did not mean tht they should be captured, beaten with sticks, poked with razor sharp spears. and starved until they submit to the Mahout and his boss and companions. The Lord does not want these helpless animals to be captured ,chained, beaten and paraded in front of Him by drunken mahouts in the name of Utsavam. We do not do it for Him but , for our own enjoyment. Most of these elephants are owned by logging industry bosses and during night hired out for temple festivals. They have no rest and are made to walk hundreds of miles daily in hot sun with no drinking water , walking on sizzling tarmac roads burning the skin underfoot. We are hypocrats with no heart and compassion, but only naked greed for money.Let the animals roam free in the natural surroundings , as it in the Ambosili national park or Serengeti in Africa, We might learn if we are put in the same sitution, chained,

beaten and starved.Krishna, Guruvayoorapp, don't you see the cruelty of these so called bhaktas of yours ? God save our helpless elephants.jai shree krishna !Achuthan Nair

 

guruvayur@grou ps.com, "NB Nair" <nbnair2000@. ..> wrote:>> > HARI AUM> > With due respect and regard for the excellent service rendered to> theGroup by Savitripuramji, I would like to point out one specific usage> thatpained me and is still persisting after almost a month.> > In [Naamam persuades us to strive with thedetermination and force of a> "matthagajam" or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage]: > "matthagajam" is not a mad elephant, but anelephant in> `musth'. A matthagajam, intotal contrast to a mad elephant, is> very much focused and bestowed with allhis power in its most heightened> form by Mother Nature to fulfill his NiyukthaKarmam, procreation, in its> most divine sense. The

hapless aspect of a "matthagajam in> chains" would have been verywell known to Poonthanam who had> personally experienced the pains of not havingas well as having lost an> offspring in his own life.> > Sucha noble soul like Poonthanam perhaps used this simile not only to> impress up onthe power of prayers in liberating the devotees from the> bondage of life andbirth but also to point out the paradox in our> practice of keeping inphysical bondage for life some fellow creatures in> the false hope of securingliberation for ourselves from the spiritual> bondage.> > So,it may be emphasised that the practice pointed out as a simile is not> keepingmad elephants in chains but elephants in musth – the most> cruelest ofcruelties!> > Letus take Poonthanam's message in its totality: at least in our> prayers let ustreat all His creations with due

dignity by not failing to> dissociate ourselvesfrom anything to the contrary.> > Please be generous to spare a few minutes andcorrect me, if I am wrong.> > Regards to all,> NB Nair.> > guruvayur@grou ps.com, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@>> wrote:> >> > Njanappaana 12> >> > Ponnin changala onnipparanjathil> > onnirumbu kondennathre bhedangal> > Randinaalumeduthu panichaiytha> > Changalayallo misramaam karmavum> >> > Bondage comes from three types of karmaas and one string (changala)> formed> > as a result of satkarmaas or punyakarmaas or good deeds is made of> Gold> > (ponnin), another one (onnu) formed as a result of paapa karmaas

or> negative> > karmaas or dushkarmaas is made of Iron (irumbu) and the third string> (> > formed as a result of the mixture of the above two types of> > karmaas-misrakarmam ) is made of a mixture of both Gold and Iron> > (randinaalumeduthu pani cheytha).> >> > Even though Gold and Iron are different metals with entirely different> > properties, when they are used for tying or binding some one it hardly> makes> > any difference for the bound victim. The word "changala" and> "thalakkuka"> > are usually used for chaining elephants. By using these words,> Poonthanam> > brings out the fact that breaking the strings of bondage is as> difficult for> > us as it is for an elephant to break it's thick Iron chain. But with> lot of> > effort, sometimes elephants do break and run to freedom. So

with> continuous> > and sincere effort human beings blessed with the power of> discrimination,> > can break all three binding chains. Even people with predominantly> satva> > gunaas find it hard to break the bondage effortlessly. As long as> their> > satkarmmas are result oriented, they will not be freed from the cycle> of> > birth and death. They live to enjoy the results of satkarmaas, again> do> > satkarmaas to be born again and again. Only renunciation of the fruits> of> > action can break the bondage for Punyaatmaas (great souls), Paapis> (sinned> > souls) and those punyaathma-paapaath ma combination souls . The only> > difference is that when we do Paapa karmaas we are subjected to> negative> > experiences and punya karmaas yield positive experiences and mixture> of both>

> will give both positive and negative experiences. But eternal freedom> from> > this cycle calls for Nishkaama karmam.> >> > Even if a cage is made of Gold, a bird sees it only as a cage in which> it is> > trapped. It does not enjoy the beauty of Gold. It only wants freedom.> > Likewise our souls craves for eternal freedom to join the Parmaathma.> > Because of the avidya or ignorance, jeevathma goes after transient> pleasures> > and with egoistic actions accumulate all three types of karmaas.> Poonthaanam> > advises us to do naamasnkeerthanam which removes ignorance and makes> us> > realize that we are trapped in this eternal cycle of birth and death.> Naamam> > persuades us to strive with the determination and force of a> "matthagajam"> > or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage. Poet

assures that this> force> > to break the chain can be derived from chanting Lord's name. By the> power of> > Naamajapam even an athiest (who does not believe in God or in prayers)> goes> > through different stages of Bhakthi or devotion and reach the highest> state> > of Uttama Bhaktha or perfect devotee.A Bhaagavatotthama ( the highest> type> > of devotee ) is one , who sees the glory of Bahgavan in all animate> and> > inanimate beings , and also perceives all beings as dwelling in Him.> So all> > his karmaas become an offering to God and practically becomes a> > Jeevanmuktha. Then he discards the body when the results of the> accumulated> > karmaas are exhausted and merges with the Paramaathma.> >> > Where does God live? Bhagavan says to Narada:> >> > Naham vasami

vaikunte na yogi hrudaye ravau> > Mad bhaktha: yatra gayanti tatra thishtami narada.> >> > "I dwell not in Vaikundha, not in the hearts of yogis, nor in the Sun,> I> > live where my devotees sing my glory and divine names."> >> > So let us sing along with Poonthanam, Narada muni and millions of> devotees:> >> > Krishna! Krishna! Munkunda! Janaardana!> > Krishna! Govinda! Naarayana! Hare!> > Achyuthaananda! Govinda! Maadhava!> > Sachinthaananda! Naraayana! Hare!> >> > Sreekrishnaarpanams thu> >> > Regards and prayers> >> > savitri> >>

 

 

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namo narayana

 

Respected Menonji,

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

Here in the US, the situation is very bad, as almost all the milk is sold from factory farmed cows, the small percentage of the so-called "Organic Milk" also does not ensure the abuse of the cows. The tendency in the US is to venerate cats and dogs like deities at the cost of other animals. For one pedigree dog, thousands of animals have to suffer and die so that the family pet can eat its favorite “Pet-foodâ€. Such hypocritical habits are unfortunately gaining hold in India as well.

 

In India, the situation is definitely getter worse, in big cities such as Mumbai (from where I come from), you can see large number of lorries in the middle of the night carrying these old and sick cows taken to the illegal slaughter houses such as Deonar which is Asia's largest slaughter house (and the greatest shame on Hindus!).

 

In villages, the cows might be handled better, but what happens to the majority of the cows when they stop giving milk? Are they still fed and taken care of by the poor farmer? The answer is a simple NO.

The farmer is compelled to sell his old cows which are then brought to cities such as Mumbai for illegal slaughter. I better not describe the horrific treatment they get when they are transported over long distances and finally end their miserable lives in the slaughter house which has no humane slaughtering devices.

The cows are cramped into these trucks, with no food, water for days these poor exhausted animals are then literally thrown from the trucks on to the ground. Many cows break their legs, and bones and cannot walk, to hoist them to the slaughter house acid is poured into their eyes and noses or their tails are broken. These abuses are wide-spread because of lax laws and corrupt officials and the demand for cheap leather products. Some how when these cows are lead to the slaughter house, the cows are literally hammered by a large hammer on their heads and after they are immobile their necks are slit so that they are bled to death. At least their miserable lives have now finally come to an end. The farmer now gets his money from the dead cow’s flesh and leather and buys a younger cow to continue the cycle.

Now, Who is responsible for this endless cycle of suffering of the cows, is it the farmer, or the slaughter house or the common man who drinks the milk? We ALL are equally responsible for this suffering and hence WILL have to pay the karmic price of this atrocity.

Lord Sri Krishna, vividly describes the three types of foods, Sattvic, Rajasic and Tamasic. Milk in the olden days was definitely Sattvic however now it is 100% Tamasic due to the abundant violence and abuse it entails. Drinking such milk is equal to eating beef. In fact the animals raised for meat do not have to suffer so much as these unfortunate dairy cows are made to suffer.

We cannot afford to fool ourselves into believing that just because we are vegetarians and do not eat beef, we are protecting the cows. We need to challenge our age old habits and tradition if they are in direct contrast to the principles of non-violence and dharma laid down by Sri Krishna in Gita.

The Milk industry is run by big powerful corporates, who do not want the public to know what really happens inside their dairy farms. Lesser the information is given to the public the more chances they have to increase their profits at the cost of the cows.

I understand that milk is an integral part of our diet and tradition. But like every other aspect of life in this Kali yuga, the abuse of our sacred cow has become widespread. Do we think that for satisfying our tongue’s desire for milk and milk-based preparations, countless innocent lives must silently suffer and ultimately give up their lives just for our habits and traditions? Let us all think about this, would such a practice be allowed if Sri Krishna would have been with us today?

We all MUST pray to Sri Krishna to give us the power to change and put a firm end to this atrocity. We need to change for the better, other wise there is NO hope for the true spirit of Sanatha dharma.

Sincerely,

Kamlesh--- On Tue, 8/18/09, ramachandra menon <ramachandramenon wrote:

ramachandra menon <ramachandramenonRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 2:38 AM

 

 

 

 

 

I am very much impressed by the research you had done about the misuse of the cow. In rural India the situation is not that bad. They have not yet started feeding the cows harmones etc. Cows eat just green grass and the cow feed and are hand milched. The farmer sells his milk to a milk cooperative, who sell it to their federation where it is processed and distributed to the public in packets.

But cattle bones, hoof and horns are there in many products we use say in tooth paste, capsules, jel products etc. Our lifestyle is so much entwined with these products that impossible to live without them. One of the Indian brand tooth pastes advertise that it is the only vegetarian tooth paste available in the market. Wherever gelatine is to be used, they can find a vegetarian substitute like china grass, but they may have their own industrial connections to be nurtured and that is why they use gelatine increasingly.

Anyhow cow is to be protected at all costs. It is our kamadenu.

 

--- On Mon, 17/8/09, Veryytterium <veryytterium@ > wrote:

Veryytterium <veryytterium@ >[Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, 17 August, 2009, 6:54 PM

 

 

 

 

 

namo narayanaDear all,

Since we had posts on the exploitation of elephants, we as devotees of Lord Sri Krishna must definitely pay attention to the plight of His most beloved animal, the Cow (Go-mata).

 

Just recently on Sri Krishna Jayanthi, we bathed Lord Sri Krishna in milk, curd, ghee and offered Him His favourite naivedhyams such as paal payasam, ghee and butter.

 

However we must be aware how this milk is obtained in this Kali yugam, especially where milk is obtained in commerical farming techniques (as in big cities in India and especially here in the US).Before this exploitative factory farming age, our saints used to procure Milk products in harmony and without cruelty, the milk was taken from the cow only after the calf has had it's fill and the cow was worshipped as Go-matha. Such offerings are certainly pleasing to the Lord.However in the present age, factory produced milk is a very cruel exploitative product of torturing cattle. The poor cows are enclosed in a tiny space, chained in its own waste in darkness, cold and filth for the rest of its life. It is pumped with insane amounts of hormones, and other toxic medications to artifically increase milk production.

 

These large amounts of hormones, antibiotics and other unnatural feed, cause the cow to grow large and make it prone to bone fractures and other very painful diseases. To add to this torture the cows are artifically inseminated to produce calves to ensure regular supply of milk.

 

The most unfortunate of the calves are male calves (called Bobby calves) who are considered to be useless and are sold off to be butchered for meat when they are just five days old. The mother cows separated from their calves cry in agony, yet they are not spared and are administered more hormones to continue milking them.After milking the cow till it has been exhausted and after ensuring that the cow cannot yield anymore milk, it is sold off to be slaughtered in the most brutal manner for meat and leather.I request all bhaktas to please think about this, will our Lord ever accept our abhiseghams and Naivedhyams if it means that His favourite innocent animals are killed slowly and extemely painfully all their lives?Let us not act in an adharmic manner and perform unthinkable atoricities and sins by offerring factory produced milk and milk based products especially in our sacred rituals and also in our diets. I can

only be certain that we shall never suceed in our sadhana if it causes so much needless pain for innocent animals.We can however use cruelty-free alternative solutions such as

 

1. Ensuring that we buy milk from establishments which are community farms were the cows are not exploited (Go-shaalas)

 

2. Restrict and replace cow-milk, with vegan alternatives such as soy milk, rice milk, coconut milk,

 

3. Perform abhishegams with traditional auspicous dhravyams such as sugarcane juice, fruit juice, coconut juice, turmeric water, saffron water, camphor water, thulasi water, cardomum-clove water...... as cruelty free offerings.

 

Instead of milk-based abhishegams, please think of donating the equivalent amount to cow shelters such as http://www.careforc ows.org/, these noble people help and resue abused cows who would have ended in illegal slaughter houses in India,

 

4. Do not buy leather products such as shoes, belts, purses etc (leather in India comes mainly fro illegal slaughter of cattle) and do not eat sweets. choclates and desserts which contain Gelatin (a by product of slaughtered cattle)

 

5. Create more awarness of this issue and support community Go-shalas.I humbly pray and request all of us to please be aware of this very cruel and sad situation of our "Go-matha", and refrain from passively encouraging this exploitation. This should not be restricted to only cows, but should be extended to save all commerical farm animals from abuse.

 

It is very contradictory that the most important symbol of Sanathana Dharma, the cow is being tortured in our own Bharat.

 

While we as Hindus abhor beef eating, we do not bat an eyelid to allow our (holy?) cows to be tortured all their lives for drinking their milk, how can we ever escape the karmic repercussions of such an atrocity.

 

Next time you eat an ice-cream, chocolate or eat paayasam please think for a while the plight of the cow.

 

Sincerely,Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com> wrote:

Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com>Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Namasthe- Njanappana 12guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, August 17, 2009, 8:31 AM

 

Dear Achyuthan Nairji,

 

I agree 100% with you. We are making these animals suffer in the name of God for our own pleasure. It is cruelty. Even Guruvayur devaswom elephants are not treated with kindness. I have witnessed it several times even inside the temple.

 

ബനàµà´§àµà´° കാഞàµà´šà´¨ കൂടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´²à´¾à´£àµ†à´™àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´‚

ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ തനàµà´¨àµ† പാരിലàµâ€

à´Žà´¤àµà´° ശരിയാണെനàµà´¨àµ ആനകളàµà´‚ പറഞàµà´žàµ à´•à´£àµà´£àµ€à´°àµâ€ തൂകàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´±à´ªàµà´ªà´¾à´£àµ . Even a golden cage with all comforts is no match to the freedom given by God, what about their complete പാരതനàµà´¤àµà´°àµà´¯à´‚ even to move their legs evenly? There is no end to their suffering. Who else other than Bhagavvan can change the present situation?

Regards and prayers

 

savitri

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, anair1101 <anair1101 > wrote:

 

 

 

Hari-Om=======nairji, You are right. There is a huge differene between A mad elephant and an elephant in Musth.Musth is a biological occurance in bull elephnts and a necessary one It is somthing like an animal in heat. THe animal becomes restless. feel emotionaly weak and agressive. Mad elephants are very rare . They become more aggressive when in captivity.In this case it is a misunderstanding and due to the wrong usage of an english word. No big deal. English is not our mother tongue.As for the mistreatment of animals, especially elephants, Keralites take the front seat followed by Thailand , Burma and the so-called animal loving (pets ) developed nations like USA, UK, Germany etc..one only has to go to the zoo or the Ringling Brothers circus to witness how elephants are chained, tortured and starved. All for the fun and entertainment of human beings. In Kerala they do it in the name of God. They

claim shree Guruvayoorappn loves elephants . Very true but He did not mean tht they should be captured, beaten with sticks, poked with razor sharp spears. and starved until they submit to the Mahout and his boss and companions. The Lord does not want these helpless animals to be captured ,chained, beaten and paraded in front of Him by drunken mahouts in the name of Utsavam. We do not do it for Him but , for our own enjoyment. Most of these elephants are owned by logging industry bosses and during night hired out for temple festivals. They have no rest and are made to walk hundreds of miles daily in hot sun with no drinking water , walking on sizzling tarmac roads burning the skin underfoot. We are hypocrats with no heart and compassion, but only naked greed for money.Let the animals roam free in the natural surroundings , as it in the Ambosili national park or Serengeti in Africa, We might learn if we are put in the same sitution, chained,

beaten and starved.Krishna, Guruvayoorapp, don't you see the cruelty of these so called bhaktas of yours ? God save our helpless elephants.jai shree krishna !Achuthan Nair

 

guruvayur@grou ps.com, "NB Nair" <nbnair2000@. ..> wrote:>> > HARI AUM> > With due respect and regard for the excellent service rendered to> theGroup by Savitripuramji, I would like to point out one specific usage> thatpained me and is still persisting after almost a month.> > In [Naamam persuades us to strive with thedetermination and force of a> "matthagajam" or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage]: > "matthagajam" is not a mad elephant, but anelephant in> `musth'. A matthagajam, intotal contrast to a mad elephant, is> very much focused and bestowed with allhis power in its most heightened> form by Mother Nature to fulfill his NiyukthaKarmam, procreation, in its> most divine sense. The

hapless aspect of a "matthagajam in> chains" would have been verywell known to Poonthanam who had> personally experienced the pains of not havingas well as having lost an> offspring in his own life.> > Sucha noble soul like Poonthanam perhaps used this simile not only to> impress up onthe power of prayers in liberating the devotees from the> bondage of life andbirth but also to point out the paradox in our> practice of keeping inphysical bondage for life some fellow creatures in> the false hope of securingliberation for ourselves from the spiritual> bondage.> > So,it may be emphasised that the practice pointed out as a simile is not> keepingmad elephants in chains but elephants in musth – the most> cruelest ofcruelties!> > Letus take Poonthanam's message in its totality: at least in our> prayers let ustreat all His creations with due

dignity by not failing to> dissociate ourselvesfrom anything to the contrary.> > Please be generous to spare a few minutes andcorrect me, if I am wrong.> > Regards to all,> NB Nair.> > guruvayur@grou ps.com, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@>> wrote:> >> > Njanappaana 12> >> > Ponnin changala onnipparanjathil> > onnirumbu kondennathre bhedangal> > Randinaalumeduthu panichaiytha> > Changalayallo misramaam karmavum> >> > Bondage comes from three types of karmaas and one string (changala)> formed> > as a result of satkarmaas or punyakarmaas or good deeds is made of> Gold> > (ponnin), another one (onnu) formed as a result of paapa karmaas

or> negative> > karmaas or dushkarmaas is made of Iron (irumbu) and the third string> (> > formed as a result of the mixture of the above two types of> > karmaas-misrakarmam ) is made of a mixture of both Gold and Iron> > (randinaalumeduthu pani cheytha).> >> > Even though Gold and Iron are different metals with entirely different> > properties, when they are used for tying or binding some one it hardly> makes> > any difference for the bound victim. The word "changala" and> "thalakkuka"> > are usually used for chaining elephants. By using these words,> Poonthanam> > brings out the fact that breaking the strings of bondage is as> difficult for> > us as it is for an elephant to break it's thick Iron chain. But with> lot of> > effort, sometimes elephants do break and run to freedom. So

with> continuous> > and sincere effort human beings blessed with the power of> discrimination,> > can break all three binding chains. Even people with predominantly> satva> > gunaas find it hard to break the bondage effortlessly. As long as> their> > satkarmmas are result oriented, they will not be freed from the cycle> of> > birth and death. They live to enjoy the results of satkarmaas, again> do> > satkarmaas to be born again and again. Only renunciation of the fruits> of> > action can break the bondage for Punyaatmaas (great souls), Paapis> (sinned> > souls) and those punyaathma-paapaath ma combination souls . The only> > difference is that when we do Paapa karmaas we are subjected to> negative> > experiences and punya karmaas yield positive experiences and mixture> of both>

> will give both positive and negative experiences. But eternal freedom> from> > this cycle calls for Nishkaama karmam.> >> > Even if a cage is made of Gold, a bird sees it only as a cage in which> it is> > trapped. It does not enjoy the beauty of Gold. It only wants freedom.> > Likewise our souls craves for eternal freedom to join the Parmaathma.> > Because of the avidya or ignorance, jeevathma goes after transient> pleasures> > and with egoistic actions accumulate all three types of karmaas.> Poonthaanam> > advises us to do naamasnkeerthanam which removes ignorance and makes> us> > realize that we are trapped in this eternal cycle of birth and death.> Naamam> > persuades us to strive with the determination and force of a> "matthagajam"> > or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage. Poet

assures that this> force> > to break the chain can be derived from chanting Lord's name. By the> power of> > Naamajapam even an athiest (who does not believe in God or in prayers)> goes> > through different stages of Bhakthi or devotion and reach the highest> state> > of Uttama Bhaktha or perfect devotee.A Bhaagavatotthama ( the highest> type> > of devotee ) is one , who sees the glory of Bahgavan in all animate> and> > inanimate beings , and also perceives all beings as dwelling in Him.> So all> > his karmaas become an offering to God and practically becomes a> > Jeevanmuktha. Then he discards the body when the results of the> accumulated> > karmaas are exhausted and merges with the Paramaathma.> >> > Where does God live? Bhagavan says to Narada:> >> > Naham vasami

vaikunte na yogi hrudaye ravau> > Mad bhaktha: yatra gayanti tatra thishtami narada.> >> > "I dwell not in Vaikundha, not in the hearts of yogis, nor in the Sun,> I> > live where my devotees sing my glory and divine names."> >> > So let us sing along with Poonthanam, Narada muni and millions of> devotees:> >> > Krishna! Krishna! Munkunda! Janaardana!> > Krishna! Govinda! Naarayana! Hare!> > Achyuthaananda! Govinda! Maadhava!> > Sachinthaananda! Naraayana! Hare!> >> > Sreekrishnaarpanams thu> >> > Regards and prayers> >> > savitri> >>

 

 

 

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namo narayana

 

Respected Radheji,

 

Thank you for your firm adherence to ahimsa and for saving the cows’ unnecessary violence.

The issue of cow exploitation and abuse is a great one and there are many aspects of it, social, political, religious, economic, health as well as at the spiritual level.

 

On the political level, the worst problems is the so called "Secularists" and groups from the Muslim and Christian communities who vehemently threaten to bring down the government, if it wants to pass a law , banning all forms of cow slaughter. The usual lacksidasical, dis-interested fragmented Hindu community does not care about preserving its core values of dharma and allows this gross exploitation.

 

On the medical level, there are many instances which have been proven by non-biased medical authorities which have studied the detrimental effects of the hormones and antibiotic medications in the milk on human health besides leading to other problems such as high cholesterol levels, obesity etc.

These health problems in my opinion are nothing but a part of the Karmic price which we have to pay for the suffering of these innocent animals.

 

I am writing a detailed article on all these aspects related to cow exploitation and also plan to some alternatives to this tragedy. I will email the article to the group shortly.

 

I humbly request all the readers to please give their inputs, thoughts, suggestions so that we all can pool our collective wisdom in spreading awareness of cow-abuse and thus truly worship Sri Krishna as Govinda (The protector of Cows).

 

Sincerely,

Kamlesh

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

Radhe <shaantihRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:40 PM

 Dear Kamleshji:

 

Thank you for clarifying the issue regarding organic products.

Perhaps you can tell us more about Go-shalas and how to

find them. At home, I only cook with soy products...the Lord

nudged me to solidify this path by making me realize that I was allergic to milk products :-) Many people know they are lactose

intolerant because of stomache upset. Alot of people do not

realize that milk can also cause skin conditions, which was the

case with me. (Many parents do not realize that their infant's

excema and other skin problems may be coming from formula.)

 

Combining that with my slow realization of the suffering of the animals, mainly due to the publication of this issue by PETA, and from posting on some of my elists, much like you have done, I have found my way to

this approach. However, I do still accept the milk prasadam from

the abishekam as I do not feel as if to refuse it is the answer.

I do not know the answer and trust Him to lead me there,

sometimes slowly!!! Tonight was easy...somehow it never

came my way ;-)

 

Like you, I have found that cooking with soy yogurt and soy butter produces results with which I am satisfied. You can tell the difference but it is something you become accustomed to as time goes on. And coconut milk makes a wonderful substitute in some recipes. It is such a small effort for such a large cause!!! While watching one's karmic account may have

its place, it seems to me that having one's actions grounded in

ahimsa for the Lord's creatures, all of them, calls to our spiritual

conscience with the power of the sounding of the conch.

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Hare Krishna!!!

 

 

-

Veryytterium

guruvayur@grou ps.com ; Radhe

Monday, August 17, 2009 4:57 PM

Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

namo narayana

 

Respected Devotee,

 

I am very satisfied that my email on cow protection has inspired at least one member of this group, I shall be very fortunate if you spread this awareness to the largest audience possible.

 

Personally I have been a strict vegetarian since childhood, but I used to drink milk and eat milk products with delight. When I came to the US, I came across some articles regarding the plight of the dairy cows and how they are abused all their lives and finally miserably slaughtered ending as dog food and leather which left me disgusted.

 

After much research and reading on this topic, I decided that I am not going to be a part of this cruel, demonic system which treats the sacred cows in such a brutal manner, I prayed to Lord Sri Krishna to give me the strength to completely avoid milk, and milk based products. Being a strict vegetarian in the US itself was tough, and giving up milk was difficult indeed in the beginning but HE gave me the strength. I found soy-milk, tofu products etc to be wonderful cruelty-free alternatives. Now since two years I have not had any milk products and I just find no difference in my lifestyle.

 

I also want to narrate an incident which happened on Gokulasthami last year. My friends and I had arranged a big Sri Krishna puja and the topic came, what we are going to offer Him for His abhishekams and Naivedhyams?

 

I had made my mind that I will NOT offer Sri Krishna, milk products obtained from cruel practice but will offer non-milk based naivedhyams. However my other friend said that we should offer Him milk based food as it is His favourite.

 

However we need the Lord's opinion and not our own, so we called one senior devotee friend (who was neutral) from ISKCON, and he prayed in front of Sri Krishna and then tossed a coin and the devotee friend said that the Lord did not want to be offered milk obtained by inhuman means.

 

I was very satisfied and humbled that the Lord had approved my decision, and we conducted His puja, with great pomp. We bathed Him in turmeric water, coconut water, chandana water etc and offered Him rava laddoos, thattais, paruppu payasam (made from coconut milk), appams, rava kesari all made without any milk products. Even this year I celebrated Gokulashtami without any milk-based products and it was very satisfying to know that my celebration was not based on some innocent animals suffering and death.

 

The reason I state this is that we can still have all our traditional celebrations and rituals without causing torturing these poor animals. We only have to be sensitive to pain and suffering of others and try to relive their pain, this will be our true service and puja to Lord Sri Krishna.

 

The term “Organic Milk†can be misleading, while it is true that organic milk will ensure that the cow is not given hormones or antibiotics, it does not ensure that the cow is not repeatedly artificially inseminated nor does it ensure that the cow (and its male calves) are not killed after it has stopped giving milk for meat and leather.

Hence we need to make sure that the milk is completely obtained humanely, which is possible only in Go-shalas.

 

We need to spread this awareness to all Hindus and also to our archaryas and gurus so that they can find an alternative to this menace which conforms to our non-violent dharmic principles.

 

Let us not incur horrendous bad karmas by indirectly causing the suffering and deaths of our sacred cows.

 

Sincerely,

Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur@grou ps.comCc: veryytterium@ Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:30 PM

 Dear Kamleshji:

 

You speak the truth with eloquence. I have thought this myself and have wanted to write to Swamiji to ask that he request devotees to purchase organic milk or soymilk for abishekam. While it may take awhile for people to do, if it is emphasized, they will slowly observe this most important act of ahimsa in their worship of the Lord. In fact, you have inspired me to request your permission to forward this email to him as my request that he consider this change in procedure at the temple as you

speak the truth with such eloquence and honesty. If it is not organic, you can be certain that the cows were abused in some way to obtain the milk. Thank you

for your post. May the Lord shower His blessings upon you for your courage in

saying these words. Offering my namaskarams to you.

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Hare Krishna!!!

 

 

 

-

Veryytterium

guruvayur@grou ps.com

Monday, August 17, 2009 9:24 AM

[Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

 

 

 

 

 

namo narayanaDear all,

Since we had posts on the exploitation of elephants, we as devotees of Lord Sri Krishna must definitely pay attention to the plight of His most beloved animal, the Cow (Go-mata).

 

Just recently on Sri Krishna Jayanthi, we bathed Lord Sri Krishna in milk, curd, ghee and offered Him His favourite naivedhyams such as paal payasam, ghee and butter.

 

However we must be aware how this milk is obtained in this Kali yugam, especially where milk is obtained in commerical farming techniques (as in big cities in India and especially here in the US).Before this exploitative factory farming age, our saints used to procure Milk products in harmony and without cruelty, the milk was taken from the cow only after the calf has had it's fill and the cow was worshipped as Go-matha. Such offerings are certainly pleasing to the Lord.However in the present age, factory produced milk is a very cruel exploitative product of torturing cattle. The poor cows are enclosed in a tiny space, chained in its own waste in darkness, cold and filth for the rest of its life. It is pumped with insane amounts of hormones, and other toxic medications to artifically increase milk production.

 

These large amounts of hormones, antibiotics and other unnatural feed, cause the cow to grow large and make it prone to bone fractures and other very painful diseases. To add to this torture the cows are artifically inseminated to produce calves to ensure regular supply of milk.

 

The most unfortunate of the calves are male calves (called Bobby calves) who are considered to be useless and are sold off to be butchered for meat when they are just five days old. The mother cows separated from their calves cry in agony, yet they are not spared and are administered more hormones to continue milking them.After milking the cow till it has been exhausted and after ensuring that the cow cannot yield anymore milk, it is sold off to be slaughtered in the most brutal manner for meat and leather.I request all bhaktas to please think about this, will our Lord ever accept our abhiseghams and Naivedhyams if it means that His favourite innocent animals are killed slowly and extemely painfully all their lives?Let us not act in an adharmic manner and perform unthinkable atoricities and sins by offerring factory produced milk and milk based products especially in our sacred rituals and also in our diets. I can

only be certain that we shall never suceed in our sadhana if it causes so much needless pain for innocent animals.We can however use cruelty-free alternative solutions such as

 

1. Ensuring that we buy milk from establishments which are community farms were the cows are not exploited (Go-shaalas)

 

2. Restrict and replace cow-milk, with vegan alternatives such as soy milk, rice milk, coconut milk,

 

3. Perform abhishegams with traditional auspicous dhravyams such as sugarcane juice, fruit juice, coconut juice, turmeric water, saffron water, camphor water, thulasi water, cardomum-clove water...... as cruelty free offerings.

 

Instead of milk-based abhishegams, please think of donating the equivalent amount to cow shelters such as http://www.careforc ows.org/, these noble people help and resue abused cows who would have ended in illegal slaughter houses in India,

 

4. Do not buy leather products such as shoes, belts, purses etc (leather in India comes mainly fro illegal slaughter of cattle) and do not eat sweets. choclates and desserts which contain Gelatin (a by product of slaughtered cattle)

 

5. Create more awarness of this issue and support community Go-shalas.I humbly pray and request all of us to please be aware of this very cruel and sad situation of our "Go-matha", and refrain from passively encouraging this exploitation. This should not be restricted to only cows, but should be extended to save all commerical farm animals from abuse.

 

It is very contradictory that the most important symbol of Sanathana Dharma, the cow is being tortured in our own Bharat.

 

While we as Hindus abhor beef eating, we do not bat an eyelid to allow our (holy?) cows to be tortured all their lives for drinking their milk, how can we ever escape the karmic repercussions of such an atrocity.

 

Next time you eat an ice-cream, chocolate or eat paayasam please think for a while the plight of the cow.

 

Sincerely,Kamlesh--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com> wrote:

Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com>Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Namasthe- Njanappana 12guruvayur@grou ps.comMonday, August 17, 2009, 8:31 AM

 

Dear Achyuthan Nairji,

 

I agree 100% with you. We are making these animals suffer in the name of God for our own pleasure. It is cruelty. Even Guruvayur devaswom elephants are not treated with kindness. I have witnessed it several times even inside the temple.

 

ബനàµà´§àµà´° കാഞàµà´šà´¨ കൂടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´²à´¾à´£àµ†à´™àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´‚

ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ തനàµà´¨àµ† പാരിലàµâ€

à´Žà´¤àµà´° ശരിയാണെനàµà´¨àµ ആനകളàµà´‚ പറഞàµà´žàµ à´•à´£àµà´£àµ€à´°àµâ€ തൂകàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´±à´ªàµà´ªà´¾à´£àµ . Even a golden cage with all comforts is no match to the freedom given by God, what about their complete പാരതനàµà´¤àµà´°àµà´¯à´‚ even to move their legs evenly? There is no end to their suffering. Who else other than Bhagavvan can change the present situation?

Regards and prayers

 

savitri

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, anair1101 <anair1101 > wrote:

 

 

 

Hari-Om=======nairji, You are right. There is a huge differene between A mad elephant and an elephant in Musth.Musth is a biological occurance in bull elephnts and a necessary one It is somthing like an animal in heat. THe animal becomes restless. feel emotionaly weak and agressive. Mad elephants are very rare . They become more aggressive when in captivity.In this case it is a misunderstanding and due to the wrong usage of an english word. No big deal. English is not our mother tongue.As for the mistreatment of animals, especially elephants, Keralites take the front seat followed by Thailand , Burma and the so-called animal loving (pets ) developed nations like USA, UK, Germany etc.one only has to go to the zoo or the Ringling Brothers circus to witness how elephants are chained, tortured and starved. All for the fun and entertainment of human beings. In Kerala they do it in the name of God. They

claim shree Guruvayoorappn loves elephants . Very true but He did not mean tht they should be captured, beaten with sticks, poked with razor sharp spears. and starved until they submit to the Mahout and his boss and companions. The Lord does not want these helpless animals to be captured ,chained, beaten and paraded in front of Him by drunken mahouts in the name of Utsavam. We do not do it for Him but , for our own enjoyment. Most of these elephants are owned by logging industry bosses and during night hired out for temple festivals. They have no rest and are made to walk hundreds of miles daily in hot sun with no drinking water , walking on sizzling tarmac roads burning the skin underfoot. We are hypocrats with no heart and compassion, but only naked greed for money.Let the animals roam free in the natural surroundings , as it in the Ambosili national park or Serengeti in Africa, We might learn if we are put in the same sitution, chained,

beaten and starved.Krishna, Guruvayoorapp, don't you see the cruelty of these so called bhaktas of yours ? God save our helpless elephants.jai shree krishna !Achuthan Nair

 

guruvayur@grou ps.com, "NB Nair" <nbnair2000@. ..> wrote:>> > HARI AUM> > With due respect and regard for the excellent service rendered to> theGroup by Savitripuramji, I would like to point out one specific usage> thatpained me and is still persisting after almost a month.> > In [Naamam persuades us to strive with thedetermination and force of a> "matthagajam" or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage]: > "matthagajam" is not a mad elephant, but anelephant in> `musth'. A matthagajam, intotal contrast to a mad elephant, is> very much focused and bestowed with allhis power in its most heightened> form by Mother Nature to fulfill his NiyukthaKarmam, procreation, in its> most divine sense. The

hapless aspect of a "matthagajam in> chains" would have been verywell known to Poonthanam who had> personally experienced the pains of not havingas well as having lost an> offspring in his own life.> > Sucha noble soul like Poonthanam perhaps used this simile not only to> impress up onthe power of prayers in liberating the devotees from the> bondage of life andbirth but also to point out the paradox in our> practice of keeping inphysical bondage for life some fellow creatures in> the false hope of securingliberation for ourselves from the spiritual> bondage.> > So,it may be emphasised that the practice pointed out as a simile is not> keepingmad elephants in chains but elephants in musth – the most> cruelest ofcruelties!> > Letus take Poonthanam's message in its totality: at least in our> prayers let ustreat all His creations with due

dignity by not failing to> dissociate ourselvesfrom anything to the contrary.> > Please be generous to spare a few minutes andcorrect me, if I am wrong.> > Regards to all,> NB Nair.> > guruvayur@grou ps.com, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@>> wrote:> >> > Njanappaana 12> >> > Ponnin changala onnipparanjathil> > onnirumbu kondennathre bhedangal> > Randinaalumeduthu panichaiytha> > Changalayallo misramaam karmavum> >> > Bondage comes from three types of karmaas and one string (changala)> formed> > as a result of satkarmaas or punyakarmaas or good deeds is made of> Gold> > (ponnin), another one (onnu) formed as a result of paapa karmaas

or> negative> > karmaas or dushkarmaas is made of Iron (irumbu) and the third string> (> > formed as a result of the mixture of the above two types of> > karmaas-misrakarmam ) is made of a mixture of both Gold and Iron> > (randinaalumeduthu pani cheytha).> >> > Even though Gold and Iron are different metals with entirely different> > properties, when they are used for tying or binding some one it hardly> makes> > any difference for the bound victim. The word "changala" and> "thalakkuka"> > are usually used for chaining elephants. By using these words,> Poonthanam> > brings out the fact that breaking the strings of bondage is as> difficult for> > us as it is for an elephant to break it's thick Iron chain. But with> lot of> > effort, sometimes elephants do break and run to freedom. So

with> continuous> > and sincere effort human beings blessed with the power of> discrimination,> > can break all three binding chains. Even people with predominantly> satva> > gunaas find it hard to break the bondage effortlessly. As long as> their> > satkarmmas are result oriented, they will not be freed from the cycle> of> > birth and death. They live to enjoy the results of satkarmaas, again> do> > satkarmaas to be born again and again. Only renunciation of the fruits> of> > action can break the bondage for Punyaatmaas (great souls), Paapis> (sinned> > souls) and those punyaathma-paapaath ma combination souls . The only> > difference is that when we do Paapa karmaas we are subjected to> negative> > experiences and punya karmaas yield positive experiences and mixture> of both>

> will give both positive and negative experiences. But eternal freedom> from> > this cycle calls for Nishkaama karmam.> >> > Even if a cage is made of Gold, a bird sees it only as a cage in which> it is> > trapped. It does not enjoy the beauty of Gold. It only wants freedom.> > Likewise our souls craves for eternal freedom to join the Parmaathma.> > Because of the avidya or ignorance, jeevathma goes after transient> pleasures> > and with egoistic actions accumulate all three types of karmaas.> Poonthaanam> > advises us to do naamasnkeerthanam which removes ignorance and makes> us> > realize that we are trapped in this eternal cycle of birth and death.> Naamam> > persuades us to strive with the determination and force of a> "matthagajam"> > or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage. Poet

assures that this> force> > to break the chain can be derived from chanting Lord's name. By the> power of> > Naamajapam even an athiest (who does not believe in God or in prayers)> goes> > through different stages of Bhakthi or devotion and reach the highest> state> > of Uttama Bhaktha or perfect devotee.A Bhaagavatotthama ( the highest> type> > of devotee ) is one , who sees the glory of Bahgavan in all animate> and> > inanimate beings , and also perceives all beings as dwelling in Him.> So all> > his karmaas become an offering to God and practically becomes a> > Jeevanmuktha. Then he discards the body when the results of the> accumulated> > karmaas are exhausted and merges with the Paramaathma.> >> > Where does God live? Bhagavan says to Narada:> >> > Naham vasami

vaikunte na yogi hrudaye ravau> > Mad bhaktha: yatra gayanti tatra thishtami narada.> >> > "I dwell not in Vaikundha, not in the hearts of yogis, nor in the Sun,> I> > live where my devotees sing my glory and divine names."> >> > So let us sing along with Poonthanam, Narada muni and millions of> devotees:> >> > Krishna! Krishna! Munkunda! Janaardana!> > Krishna! Govinda! Naarayana! Hare!> > Achyuthaananda! Govinda! Maadhava!> > Sachinthaananda! Naraayana! Hare!> >> > Sreekrishnaarpanams thu> >> > Regards and prayers> >> > savitri> >>

 

 

 

 

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Hari-Om

 

You are absolutely right.

 

Avoiding milk and milk prooducts is a noble act.

It is much healthier to use soy milk, Tofu and coconut products , as you

mentioned. For various reasons I do not drink milk.Even my family members are

not aware of this .

 

Let alone the health issue, I believe the milk produced by the cow is for its

Calf only and noone else.

We humans due to our greed and selfishness, milk the cow's udders dry until it

starts bleeding , leaving not a drop of milk for the infant calf. They add

gallons of ditch water to the milk and sell it to public.

The same milk is used for abhishekam and for preparing milk based prasadam.

 

This is so in India and other asian countries.

As for the cows, unproductive cows are left to starve and in the end sold to the

slaughter house.

One only has to look at the poor skeleton frame of the calf next to the cow at

the time of milking to see the milkman denying the calf's approach to its mother

and the cruel treatment meted out.

 

This is the paramount reason I avoid milk. The helpless calf's image comes to my

mind .

 

In the developed world, although the cows are milked, enough milk is

saved for the calf. if not, the calf is fed subtitute milk through feeding

bottles.

 

There is a govt. sponsored cow protection agency based in New Delhi.

What hppens there is the most horrific and disgusting humam treatment of

animals.

And what do the S P C A do ? Only a name .

 

jai shree krishna !

 

Achuthan Nair

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

guruvayur , " Radhe " <shaantih wrote:

>

> Dear Kamleshji:

>

> Thank you for clarifying the issue regarding organic products.

> Perhaps you can tell us more about Go-shalas and how to

> find them. At home, I only cook with soy products...the Lord

> nudged me to solidify this path by making me realize that I was

> allergic to milk products :-) Many people know they are lactose

> intolerant because of stomache upset. Alot of people do not

> realize that milk can also cause skin conditions, which was the

> case with me. (Many parents do not realize that their infant's

> excema and other skin problems may be coming from formula.)

>

> Combining that with my slow realization of the suffering of the animals,

> mainly due to the publication of this issue by PETA, and from posting

> on some of my elists, much like you have done, I have found my way to

> this approach. However, I do still accept the milk prasadam from

> the abishekam as I do not feel as if to refuse it is the answer.

> I do not know the answer and trust Him to lead me there,

> sometimes slowly!!! Tonight was easy...somehow it never

> came my way ;-)

>

> Like you, I have found that cooking with soy yogurt and soy

> butter produces results with which I am satisfied. You can tell

> the difference but it is something you become accustomed

> to as time goes on. And coconut milk makes a wonderful

> substitute in some recipes. It is such a small effort for such

> a large cause!!! While watching one's karmic account may have

> its place, it seems to me that having one's actions grounded in

> ahimsa for the Lord's creatures, all of them, calls to our spiritual

> conscience with the power of the sounding of the conch.

>

> In His Service,

>

> Radhe

>

> Hare Krishna!!!

>

> -

> Veryytterium

> guruvayur ; Radhe

> Monday, August 17, 2009 4:57 PM

> Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

>

>

>

> namo narayana

>

> Respected Devotee,

>

> I am very satisfied that my email on cow protection has inspired at

least one member of this group, I shall be very fortunate if you spread this

awareness to the largest audience possible.

>

> Personally I have been a strict vegetarian since childhood, but I used

to drink milk and eat milk products with delight. When I came to the US, I came

across some articles regarding the plight of the dairy cows and how they are

abused all their lives and finally miserably slaughtered ending as dog food and

leather which left me disgusted.

>

> After much research and reading on this topic, I decided that I am not

going to be a part of this cruel, demonic system which treats the sacred cows in

such a brutal manner, I prayed to Lord Sri Krishna to give me the strength to

completely avoid milk, and milk based products. Being a strict vegetarian in the

US itself was tough, and giving up milk was difficult indeed in the beginning

but HE gave me the strength. I found soy-milk, tofu products etc to be

wonderful cruelty-free alternatives. Now since two years I have not had any milk

products and I just find no difference in my lifestyle.

>

> I also want to narrate an incident which happened on Gokulasthami last

year. My friends and I had arranged a big Sri Krishna puja and the topic came,

what we are going to offer Him for His abhishekams and Naivedhyams?

>

> I had made my mind that I will NOT offer Sri Krishna, milk products

obtained from cruel practice but will offer non-milk based naivedhyams. However

my other friend said that we should offer Him milk based food as it is His

favourite.

>

> However we need the Lord's opinion and not our own, so we called one

senior devotee friend (who was neutral) from ISKCON, and he prayed in front of

Sri Krishna and then tossed a coin and the devotee friend said that the Lord

did not want to be offered milk obtained by inhuman means.

>

> I was very satisfied and humbled that the Lord had approved my

decision, and we conducted His puja, with great pomp. We bathed Him in turmeric

water, coconut water, chandana water etc and offered Him rava laddoos,

thattais, paruppu payasam (made from coconut milk), appams, rava kesari all

made without any milk products. Even this year I celebrated Gokulashtami

without any milk-based products and it was very satisfying to know that my

celebration was not based on some innocent animals suffering and death.

>

> The reason I state this is that we can still have all our traditional

celebrations and rituals without causing torturing these poor animals. We only

have to be sensitive to pain and suffering of others and try to relive their

pain, this will be our true service and puja to Lord Sri Krishna.

>

> The term “Organic Milk†can be misleading, while it is true that

organic milk will ensure that the cow is not given hormones or antibiotics, it

does not ensure that the cow is not repeatedly artificially inseminated nor does

it ensure that the cow (and its male calves) are not killed after it has stopped

giving milk for meat and leather.

> Hence we need to make sure that the milk is completely obtained

humanely, which is possible only in Go-shalas.

>

> We need to spread this awareness to all Hindus and also to our

archaryas and gurus so that they can find an alternative to this menace which

conforms to our non-violent dharmic principles.

>

> Let us not incur horrendous bad karmas by indirectly causing the

suffering and deaths of our sacred cows.

>

>

>

> Sincerely,

> Kamlesh

>

> --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

>

>

> Radhe <shaantih

> Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

> guruvayur

> Cc: veryytterium

> Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:30 PM

>

>

> 

> Dear Kamleshji:

>

> You speak the truth with eloquence. I have thought this myself and

have wanted to

> write to Swamiji to ask that he request devotees to purchase organic

milk or soymilk

> for abishekam. While it may take awhile for people to do, if it is

emphasized, they

> will slowly observe this most important act of ahimsa in their

worship of the Lord.

> In fact, you have inspired me to request your permission to forward

this email to

> him as my request that he consider this change in procedure at the

temple as you

> speak the truth with such eloquence and honesty. If it is not

organic, you can be

> certain that the cows were abused in some way to obtain the milk.

Thank you

> for your post. May the Lord shower His blessings upon you for your

courage in

> saying these words. Offering my namaskarams to you.

>

> In His Service,

>

> Radhe

>

> Hare Krishna!!!

>

>

> -

> Veryytterium

> guruvayur

> Monday, August 17, 2009 9:24 AM

> [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

>

>

> namo narayana

>

> Dear all,

>

> Since we had posts on the exploitation of elephants, we as

devotees of Lord Sri Krishna must definitely pay attention to the plight of His

most beloved animal, the Cow (Go-mata).

>

> Just recently on Sri Krishna Jayanthi, we bathed Lord Sri

Krishna in milk, curd, ghee and offered Him His favourite naivedhyams such as

paal payasam, ghee and butter.

>

> However we must be aware how this milk is obtained in this

Kali yugam, especially where milk is obtained in commerical farming techniques

(as in big cities in India and especially here in the US).

>

> Before this exploitative factory farming age, our saints

used to procure Milk products in harmony and without cruelty, the milk was taken

from the cow only after the calf has had it's fill and the cow was worshipped as

Go-matha. Such offerings are certainly pleasing to the Lord.

>

> However in the present age, factory produced milk is a very

cruel exploitative product of torturing cattle. The poor cows are enclosed in a

tiny space, chained in its own waste

> in darkness, cold and filth for the rest of its life. It is

pumped with insane amounts of hormones, and other toxic medications to

artifically increase milk production.

>

> These large amounts of hormones, antibiotics and other

unnatural feed, cause the cow to grow large and make it prone to bone fractures

and other very painful diseases. To add to this torture the cows are artifically

inseminated to produce calves to ensure regular supply of milk.

>

> The most unfortunate of the calves are male calves (called

Bobby calves) who are considered to be useless and are sold off to be butchered

for meat when they are just five days old. The mother cows separated from their

calves cry in agony, yet they are not spared and are administered more hormones

to continue milking them.

>

> After milking the cow till it has been exhausted and after

ensuring that the cow cannot yield anymore milk, it is sold off to be

slaughtered in the most brutal manner for meat and leather.

>

> I request all bhaktas to please think about this, will our

Lord ever accept our abhiseghams and Naivedhyams if it means that His favourite

innocent animals are killed slowly and extemely painfully all their lives?

>

> Let us not act in an adharmic manner and perform unthinkable

atoricities and sins by offerring factory produced milk and milk based products

especially in our sacred rituals and also in our diets. I can only be certain

that we shall never suceed in our sadhana if it causes so much needless pain for

innocent animals.

>

> We can however use cruelty-free alternative solutions such

as

>

> 1. Ensuring that we buy milk from establishments which are

community farms were the cows are not exploited (Go-shaalas)

>

> 2. Restrict and replace cow-milk, with vegan alternatives

such as soy milk, rice milk, coconut milk,

>

> 3. Perform abhishegams with traditional auspicous dhravyams

such as sugarcane juice, fruit juice, coconut juice, turmeric water, saffron

water, camphor water, thulasi water, cardomum-clove water...... as cruelty free

offerings.

>

> Instead of milk-based abhishegams, please think of donating

the equivalent amount to cow shelters such as http://www.careforc ows.org/,

these noble people help and resue abused cows who would have ended in illegal

slaughter houses in India,

>

> 4. Do not buy leather products such as shoes, belts, purses

etc (leather in India comes mainly fro illegal slaughter of cattle) and do not

eat sweets. choclates and desserts which contain Gelatin (a by product of

slaughtered cattle)

>

> 5. Create more awarness of this issue and support community

Go-shalas.

>

> I humbly pray and request all of us to please be aware of

this very cruel and sad situation of our " Go-matha " , and refrain from passively

encouraging this exploitation. This should not be restricted to only cows, but

should be extended to save all commerical farm animals from abuse.

>

> It is very contradictory that the most important symbol of

Sanathana Dharma, the cow is being tortured in our own Bharat.

>

> While we as Hindus abhor beef eating, we do not bat an

eyelid to allow our (holy?) cows to be tortured all their lives for drinking

their milk, how can we ever escape the karmic repercussions of such an atrocity.

>

> Next time you eat an ice-cream, chocolate or eat paayasam

please think for a while the plight of the cow.

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Kamlesh

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@

gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

> Savitri Puram <savitriopuram@ gmail.com>

> Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Namasthe- Njanappana 12

> guruvayur@grou ps.com

> Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:31 AM

>

>

>

> Dear Achyuthan Nairji,

>

> I agree 100% with you. We are making these animals suffer

in the name of God for our own pleasure. It is cruelty. Even Guruvayur devaswom

elephants are not treated with kindness. I have witnessed it several times even

inside the temple.

>

> ബനàµà´§àµà´° കാഞàµà´šà´¨

കൂടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´²à´¾à´£àµ†à´™àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´‚

> ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ ബനàµà´§à´¨à´‚ തനàµà´¨àµ†

പാരിലàµâ€

> à´Žà´¤àµà´° ശരിയാണെനàµà´¨àµ

ആനകളàµà´‚ പറഞàµà´žàµ à´•à´£àµà´£àµ€à´°àµâ€

തൂകàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´±à´ªàµà´ªà´¾à´£àµ . Even a golden

cage with all comforts is no match to the freedom given by God, what about their

complete പാരതനàµà´¤àµà´°àµà´¯à´‚ even to move their legs evenly?

There is no end to their suffering. Who else other than Bhagavvan can change the

present situation?

> Regards and prayers

>

> savitri

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:57 PM, anair1101

<anair1101 > wrote:

>

>

> Hari-Om

> =======

> nairji,

>

> You are right. There is a huge differene between A mad

elephant and an elephant in Musth.

> Musth is a biological occurance in bull elephnts and a

necessary

> one It is somthing like an animal in heat. THe animal

becomes restless. feel emotionaly weak and agressive.

> Mad elephants are very rare .

> They become more aggressive when in captivity.

> In this case it is a misunderstanding and due to the

wrong usage of an english word. No big deal. English is not our mother tongue.

> As for the mistreatment of animals, especially

elephants, Keralites take the front seat followed by Thailand , Burma and the

so-called animal loving (pets ) developed nations like USA, UK, Germany etc.one

only has to go to the zoo or the Ringling Brothers circus to witness how

elephants are chained, tortured and starved. All for the fun and entertainment

of human beings.

> In Kerala they do it in the name of God.

> They claim shree Guruvayoorappn loves elephants . Very

true but He did not mean tht they should be captured, beaten with sticks, poked

with razor sharp spears. and starved until they submit to the Mahout and his

boss and companions. The Lord does not want these helpless animals to be

captured ,chained, beaten and paraded in front of Him by drunken mahouts in the

name of Utsavam. We do not do it for Him but , for our own enjoyment. Most of

these elephants are owned by logging industry bosses and during night hired out

for temple festivals. They have no rest and are made to walk hundreds of miles

daily in hot sun with no drinking water , walking on sizzling tarmac roads

burning the skin underfoot. We are hypocrats with no heart and compassion, but

only naked greed for money.

> Let the animals roam free in the natural surroundings ,

as it in the Ambosili national park or Serengeti in Africa,

> We might learn if we are put in the same sitution,

chained, beaten and starved.

> Krishna, Guruvayoorapp, don't you see the cruelty of

these so called bhaktas of yours ?

> God save our helpless elephants.

>

> jai shree krishna !

>

> Achuthan Nair

>

>

> guruvayur@grou ps.com, " NB Nair "

<nbnair2000@ ..> wrote:

> >

> >

> > HARI AUM

> >

> > With due respect and regard for the excellent service

rendered to

> > theGroup by Savitripuramji, I would like to point out

one specific usage

> > thatpained me and is still persisting after almost a

month.

> >

> > In [Naamam persuades us to strive with

thedetermination and force of a

> > " matthagajam " or mad elephant to break this chain of

bondage]:

> > " matthagajam " is not a mad elephant, but anelephant in

> > `musth'. A matthagajam, intotal contrast to a mad

elephant, is

> > very much focused and bestowed with allhis power in

its most heightened

> > form by Mother Nature to fulfill his NiyukthaKarmam,

procreation, in its

> > most divine sense. The hapless aspect of a

" matthagajam in

> > chains " would have been verywell known to Poonthanam

who had

> > personally experienced the pains of not havingas well

as having lost an

> > offspring in his own life.

> >

> > Sucha noble soul like Poonthanam perhaps used this

simile not only to

> > impress up onthe power of prayers in liberating the

devotees from the

> > bondage of life andbirth but also to point out the

paradox in our

> > practice of keeping inphysical bondage for life some

fellow creatures in

> > the false hope of securingliberation for ourselves

from the spiritual

> > bondage.

> >

> > So,it may be emphasised that the practice pointed out

as a simile is not

> > keepingmad elephants in chains but elephants in musth

†" the most

> > cruelest ofcruelties!

> >

> > Letus take Poonthanam's message in its totality: at

least in our

> > prayers let ustreat all His creations with due dignity

by not failing to

> > dissociate ourselvesfrom anything to the contrary.

> >

> > Please be generous to spare a few minutes andcorrect

me, if I am wrong.

> >

> > Regards to all,

> > NB Nair.

> >

> > guruvayur@grou ps.com, Savitri Puram

<savitriopuram@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Njanappaana 12

> > >

> > > Ponnin changala onnipparanjathil

> > > onnirumbu kondennathre bhedangal

> > > Randinaalumeduthu panichaiytha

> > > Changalayallo misramaam karmavum

> > >

> > > Bondage comes from three types of karmaas and one

string (changala)

> > formed

> > > as a result of satkarmaas or punyakarmaas or good

deeds is made of

> > Gold

> > > (ponnin), another one (onnu) formed as a result of

paapa karmaas or

> > negative

> > > karmaas or dushkarmaas is made of Iron (irumbu) and

the third string

> > (

> > > formed as a result of the mixture of the above two

types of

> > > karmaas-misrakarmam ) is made of a mixture of both

Gold and Iron

> > > (randinaalumeduthu pani cheytha).

> > >

> > > Even though Gold and Iron are different metals with

entirely different

> > > properties, when they are used for tying or binding

some one it hardly

> > makes

> > > any difference for the bound victim. The word

" changala " and

> > " thalakkuka "

> > > are usually used for chaining elephants. By using

these words,

> > Poonthanam

> > > brings out the fact that breaking the strings of

bondage is as

> > difficult for

> > > us as it is for an elephant to break it's thick Iron

chain. But with

> > lot of

> > > effort, sometimes elephants do break and run to

freedom. So with

> > continuous

> > > and sincere effort human beings blessed with the

power of

> > discrimination,

> > > can break all three binding chains. Even people with

predominantly

> > satva

> > > gunaas find it hard to break the bondage

effortlessly. As long as

> > their

> > > satkarmmas are result oriented, they will not be

freed from the cycle

> > of

> > > birth and death. They live to enjoy the results of

satkarmaas, again

> > do

> > > satkarmaas to be born again and again. Only

renunciation of the fruits

> > of

> > > action can break the bondage for Punyaatmaas (great

souls), Paapis

> > (sinned

> > > souls) and those punyaathma-paapaath ma combination

souls . The only

> > > difference is that when we do Paapa karmaas we are

subjected to

> > negative

> > > experiences and punya karmaas yield positive

experiences and mixture

> > of both

> > > will give both positive and negative experiences.

But eternal freedom

> > from

> > > this cycle calls for Nishkaama karmam.

> > >

> > > Even if a cage is made of Gold, a bird sees it only

as a cage in which

> > it is

> > > trapped. It does not enjoy the beauty of Gold. It

only wants freedom.

> > > Likewise our souls craves for eternal freedom to

join the Parmaathma.

> > > Because of the avidya or ignorance, jeevathma goes

after transient

> > pleasures

> > > and with egoistic actions accumulate all three types

of karmaas.

> > Poonthaanam

> > > advises us to do naamasnkeerthanam which removes

ignorance and makes

> > us

> > > realize that we are trapped in this eternal cycle of

birth and death.

> > Naamam

> > > persuades us to strive with the determination and

force of a

> > " matthagajam "

> > > or mad elephant to break this chain of bondage. Poet

assures that this

> > force

> > > to break the chain can be derived from chanting

Lord's name. By the

> > power of

> > > Naamajapam even an athiest (who does not believe in

God or in prayers)

> > goes

> > > through different stages of Bhakthi or devotion and

reach the highest

> > state

> > > of Uttama Bhaktha or perfect devotee.A

Bhaagavatotthama ( the highest

> > type

> > > of devotee ) is one , who sees the glory of Bahgavan

in all animate

> > and

> > > inanimate beings , and also perceives all beings as

dwelling in Him.

> > So all

> > > his karmaas become an offering to God and

practically becomes a

> > > Jeevanmuktha. Then he discards the body when the

results of the

> > accumulated

> > > karmaas are exhausted and merges with the

Paramaathma.

> > >

> > > Where does God live? Bhagavan says to Narada:

> > >

> > > Naham vasami vaikunte na yogi hrudaye ravau

> > > Mad bhaktha: yatra gayanti tatra thishtami narada.

> > >

> > > " I dwell not in Vaikundha, not in the hearts of

yogis, nor in the Sun,

> > I

> > > live where my devotees sing my glory and divine

names. "

> > >

> > > So let us sing along with Poonthanam, Narada muni

and millions of

> > devotees:

> > >

> > > Krishna! Krishna! Munkunda! Janaardana!

> > > Krishna! Govinda! Naarayana! Hare!

> > > Achyuthaananda! Govinda! Maadhava!

> > > Sachinthaananda! Naraayana! Hare!

> > >

> > > Sreekrishnaarpanams thu

> > >

> > > Regards and prayers

> > >

> > > savitri

> > >

> >

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My dandavat pranams to all...

 

Last night when I returned from abishekam, I returned to Kemleshji's

post. In addition to sending it to Swamiji, I also went online to find

some video and photos which documented the abuse and terrible

conditions in which dairy cows find themselves. These videos are

taken in America, by various organizations whose members work

undercover in the farms and/or slaughterhouses. What you watch

will surely bring tears to your eyes, but for the love of the Lord,

you should watch them. Last night I could not bring myself to

do so, but today I forced myself to, knowing what I was in for

since I have seen other similar ones in the past. I felt that if

I was sending them to Swamiji and asking him to look at them,

I should do the same.

 

Although I have felt this way for awhile about the use of milk

offered at abishekam, I hesitated to speak up because

I did not want to seem like an outsider coming in pointing

fingers. As it is, some people take some time to get used

to me being there at all, let alone being there and speaking

my often outspoken mind :-) So, I needed time to allow

the vehicle for my thoughts to present itself in a way that

expressed my thoughts in a format I was comfortable with.

 

It came in this thread, starting with Nairji's post on the

mistreatment of elephants, and leading inexorably to

this topic. The Lord has His ways of getting things

done through us , if we don't stand in His way. I want

to say that for years I ate meat and was feeding meat to my

young children, until He called me to Him and slowly

instilled His infinite mercy into my being. I am crying as

I write this, in grief for the videos I just watched and in

gratitude for His Grace.

 

Poor Swamiji...he probably sometimes asks the Lord...

Why could you not have dropped her off at someone else's

ashram? :-) Anyway, these are the links I sent to him...

 

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/foodlaw/2008/02/horrible-dairy.html

 

http://animalawakening.blogspot.com/2008/02/wheres-dignity-undercover-video-reve\

als.html

 

http://video.hsus.org/?fr_story=b272dd74c155036eb32d8c54857acc0067109909 & rf=site\

map

 

http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_Cows_Dairy.asp

 

http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=98

 

Needing to move onto a lighter note, and address the

logisitics of dealing with some of these issues, please

allow me to say the following...

 

Kamleshji, let me say here that my adherence is not

as firm as I would like it to be...I no longer feed meat

to my children, and hesitate to buy pizza or any product

which contains dairy since I do not know where it was

processed. But I do know that they eat meat at the homes

of some of their friends and I do not interfere. And I have bought

them pizza and let them have ice cream from the water ice/cream

establishments even this summer. When it comes to these issues,

you can imagine that my children do not appreciate my stance

and it has caused some wailing and gnashing of teeth

as to what a bad Mom I am! I divorced my husband years

ago, and this was and is still an issue. They still get meat

through him and he has sometimes tried to " sneak " it into my home

when he returns them after visitation. As far as he is concerned

I am a bad Mom and I am " starving " my children by not feeding them

a " proper " diet, so he thinks he is saving them by doing so.

But I know that the Lord does not want it here at all,

so I am firm in my refusal to allow it here anymore.

 

Some weeks ago, one of our list members posted

with a question about cooking chicken for her son,

and I wanted to post on it, but got sidetracked somehow.

I do not remember her name, and apologize for not

addressing her directly, but would like to say that

there are products on the market to substitute for

the " real " thing. And you can find them vegan as well.

I have been able to get my sons to like one or two, and this

makes me feel better so that I can get some protein into them,

since they have no interest in the Indian cuisine I cook for myself!

Morningstar Farms and Boca make vegan products which your son

might find appealing. You do have to check the ingredients, though,

because MSFarms sometimes uses eggwhites.

 

There are also some soybased " cheeses " as well.

You can use them to substitute in your recipes and

they are pretty good too. There is also a Silk brand

soy " creamer " which I prefer to use as a substitute

for milk in my recipes as it does not have that funny\

aftertaste which I myself do not like in soymilk.

One more thing...Purina does make a veggie dogfood

in its line called Beneful...the Healthy Harvest flavor

has no animal products that I can see. You probably

won't find that flavor in the grocery store, but can get it

at the larger petfood chains. While there may not be alot

of options, the options are there and He does provide us

with ways to conform to dharmic principles if we are willing

to open our hearts and our minds.

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Shri Krishna sharanam mamah!!!

 

---- Original Message -----

Veryytterium

guruvayur

Cc: shaantih

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:22 AM

Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

 

 

namo narayana

 

Respected Radheji,

 

Thank you for your firm adherence to ahimsa and for saving the cows’

unnecessary violence.

The issue of cow exploitation and abuse is a great one and there are many

aspects of it, social, political, religious, economic, health as well as at

the spiritual level.

 

On the political level, the worst problems is the so called " Secularists "

and groups from the Muslim and Christian communities who vehemently threaten

to bring down the government, if it wants to pass a law , banning all forms

of cow slaughter. The usual lacksidasical, dis-interested fragmented Hindu

community does not care about preserving its core values of dharma and

allows this gross exploitation.

 

On the medical level, there are many instances which have been proven by

non-biased medical authorities which have studied the detrimental effects of

the hormones and antibiotic medications in the milk on human health besides

leading to other problems such as high cholesterol levels, obesity etc.

These health problems in my opinion are nothing but a part of the Karmic

price which we have to pay for the suffering of these innocent

animals..........

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Dear Friends,

Every animal, birds and fish which people keep are, now a days abused, it

doesn't matter if they are kept for food or for byproducts or as pets. Animal

farms don't treat the animals they were treated in olden times. In my

childhood, my Mother used to allow the calf to drink all the milk they wanted

and then take milk for our use. Even the animals kept as pets are abused a lot

now. In my opinion keeping them as pet in itself is an abuse. This is done by

the so-called animal lovers also.

Our scriptures very clearly says not to eat flesh and our spiritual masters has

re-emphasized it by instructing us not to eat flesh. But, even the majority of

the people who claim to be Hindus think that non-vegetarian eating is very

normal. (Just read the words after my signature.) It is a fact that quite a few

people has taken objection to these words and the funniest or the strangest

experience was that all of them were who call them selves “Hindusâ€.

There are more of this kind of videos and literature available. When we see

them or read them, just put ourselves in the spot of those animals, birds or

fish and think. Do

we like to be treated or killed that way and eaten by other animals?

If we put ourselves in that position and think we can realize the pain, at

least to some extent. Also remember we are all the same, including those animals.

I don't think any one who thinks that way will do any thing to encourage

abusing any animal, bird or fish. I think few days back I had posted an article

on the effect of meat on Global warming, Over exploited natural resources,

Deforestation, Wasted land, Water and Air Pollution. The most serious

environmental problems and majority of the dangerous killer sickness of our

time are all directly linked to meat eating and meat by products.

 

 

Often people live out side of our bhArath says, it is

difficult to be vegetarians. Let me tell you, I live in USA and I don’t

feel it is that difficult. Remember a lot of people are turning vegetarian

every day, same say very day a thousand people are turning vegetarian every day

in USA.

 

I wish every one, the whole world to turn Vegetarian, at

least in our group, if any one is still non-vegetarian I urge them to turn

completely vegetarian now.

 

Thanks

 

 

Sincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya The vow not to kill is great indeed, and greater still is non-eating of the flesh; there would be no butcher, if there is non to eat; in eating thus abides the cruder ill, as she/he is the reason for the killing. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:Radhe <shaantihRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 4:10 PM

 

 

My dandavat pranams to all...

 

Last night when I returned from abishekam, I returned to Kemleshji's

post. In addition to sending it to Swamiji, I also went online to find

some video and photos which documented the abuse and terrible

conditions in which dairy cows find themselves. These videos are

taken in America, by various organizations whose members work

undercover in the farms and/or slaughterhouses. What you watch

will surely bring tears to your eyes, but for the love of the Lord,

you should watch them. Last night I could not bring myself to

do so, but today I forced myself to, knowing what I was in for

since I have seen other similar ones in the past. I felt that if

I was sending them to Swamiji and asking him to look at them,

I should do the same.

 

Although I have felt this way for awhile about the use of milk

offered at abishekam, I hesitated to speak up because

I did not want to seem like an outsider coming in pointing

fingers. As it is, some people take some time to get used

to me being there at all, let alone being there and speaking

my often outspoken mind :-) So, I needed time to allow

the vehicle for my thoughts to present itself in a way that

expressed my thoughts in a format I was comfortable with.

 

It came in this thread, starting with Nairji's post on the

mistreatment of elephants, and leading inexorably to

this topic. The Lord has His ways of getting things

done through us , if we don't stand in His way. I want

to say that for years I ate meat and was feeding meat to my

young children, until He called me to Him and slowly

instilled His infinite mercy into my being. I am crying as

I write this, in grief for the videos I just watched and in

gratitude for His Grace.

 

Poor Swamiji....he probably sometimes asks the Lord...

Why could you not have dropped her off at someone else's

ashram? :-) Anyway, these are the links I sent to him...

 

http://lawprofessor s.typepad. com/foodlaw/ 2008/02/horrible -dairy.html

 

http://animalawaken ing.blogspot. com/2008/ 02/wheres- dignity-undercov er-video- reveals.html

 

http://video. hsus.org/ ?fr_story= b272dd74c155036e b32d8c54857acc00 67109909 & rf=sitemap

 

http://www.goveg. com/factoryFarmi ng_Cows_Dairy. asp

 

http://www.peta. org/mc/factsheet _display. asp?ID=98

 

Needing to move onto a lighter note, and address the

logisitics of dealing with some of these issues, please

allow me to say the following...

 

Kamleshji, let me say here that my adherence is not

as firm as I would like it to be...I no longer feed meat

to my children, and hesitate to buy pizza or any product

which contains dairy since I do not know where it was

processed. But I do know that they eat meat at the homes

of some of their friends and I do not interfere. And I have bought

them pizza and let them have ice cream from the water ice/cream

establishments even this summer. When it comes to these issues,

you can imagine that my children do not appreciate my stance

and it has caused some wailing and gnashing of teeth

as to what a bad Mom I am! I divorced my husband years

ago, and this was and is still an issue. They still get meat

through him and he has sometimes tried to "sneak" it into my home

when he returns them after visitation. As far as he is concerned

I am a bad Mom and I am "starving" my children by not feeding them

a "proper" diet, so he thinks he is saving them by doing so.

But I know that the Lord does not want it here at all,

so I am firm in my refusal to allow it here anymore.

 

Some weeks ago, one of our list members posted

with a question about cooking chicken for her son,

and I wanted to post on it, but got sidetracked somehow.

I do not remember her name, and apologize for not

addressing her directly, but would like to say that

there are products on the market to substitute for

the "real" thing. And you can find them vegan as well.

I have been able to get my sons to like one or two, and this

makes me feel better so that I can get some protein into them,

since they have no interest in the Indian cuisine I cook for myself!

Morningstar Farms and Boca make vegan products which your son

might find appealing. You do have to check the ingredients, though,

because MSFarms sometimes uses eggwhites.

 

There are also some soybased "cheeses" as well.

You can use them to substitute in your recipes and

they are pretty good too. There is also a Silk brand

soy "creamer" which I prefer to use as a substitute

for milk in my recipes as it does not have that funny\

aftertaste which I myself do not like in soymilk.

One more thing...Purina does make a veggie dogfood

in its line called Beneful...the Healthy Harvest flavor

has no animal products that I can see. You probably

won't find that flavor in the grocery store, but can get it

at the larger petfood chains. While there may not be alot

of options, the options are there and He does provide us

with ways to conform to dharmic principles if we are willing

to open our hearts and our minds.

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Shri Krishna sharanam mamah!!!

 

---- Original Message -----

Veryytterium

guruvayur@grou ps.com

Cc: shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:22 AM

Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!

 

namo narayana

 

Respected Radheji,

 

Thank you for your firm adherence to ahimsa and for saving the cows’

unnecessary violence.

The issue of cow exploitation and abuse is a great one and there are many

aspects of it, social, political, religious, economic, health as well as at

the spiritual level.

 

On the political level, the worst problems is the so called "Secularists"

and groups from the Muslim and Christian communities who vehemently threaten

to bring down the government, if it wants to pass a law , banning all forms

of cow slaughter. The usual lacksidasical, dis-interested fragmented Hindu

community does not care about preserving its core values of dharma and

allows this gross exploitation.

 

On the medical level, there are many instances which have been proven by

non-biased medical authorities which have studied the detrimental effects of

the hormones and antibiotic medications in the milk on human health besides

leading to other problems such as high cholesterol levels, obesity etc.

These health problems in my opinion are nothing but a part of the Karmic

price which we have to pay for the suffering of these innocent

animals..... .....

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Hari Om !

 

It is totally true that we should find alternatives; if not the abstraction from animals will be an endless process.  But the issue is why such rules are not forced or people are not realising the fact.... All what we as normal simple humans can do is avoid such situations where we could be cruel to animals.

 

 At this juncture, I remember an instance:

 

I earlier used to buy milk packet from the Govt diary which of late or more often used to be smelling bad while boiling and i after realising, started buying from a farmer who has about 7/8 cows.  I was happy that i am getting milk afresh.  One fine day, i fould the curd made out of this milk while taking by a spoon, was connected with the curd in the vessel like a thread.  Next day morning , I informed the milk man  about my experience.  He instantly tried to escape from the truth by saying that the vessel may not be clean.  I said I take care of the cleanliness at home and as i knew that most of the diseases are spread through milk, i additionally take care of its vessels, he said, let me see what had happened and went.  The third day, he admitted that he realised the problem that one of his cows had fever and due to it, the problem would have occured. 

 

These days he ensures that  clean milk is given to me, atleast.

 

Best regards

 

Jayasree Menon

 

 

 

 

2009/8/19 Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanickar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,Every animal, birds and fish which people keep are, now a days abused, it doesn't matter if they are kept for food or for byproducts or as pets. Animal farms don't treat the animals they were treated in olden times. In my childhood, my Mother used to allow the calf to drink all the milk they wanted and then take milk for our use. Even the animals kept as pets are abused a lot now. In my opinion keeping them as pet in itself is an abuse. This is done by the so-called animal lovers also.

Our scriptures very clearly says not to eat flesh and our spiritual masters has re-emphasized it by instructing us not to eat flesh. But, even the majority of the people who claim to be Hindus think that non-vegetarian eating is very normal. (Just read the words after my signature.) It is a fact that quite a few people has taken objection to these words and the funniest or the strangest experience was that all of them were who call them selves “Hindus”.

There are more of this kind of videos and literature available. When we see them or read them, just put ourselves in the spot of those animals, birds or fish and think. Do we like to be treated or killed that way and eaten by other animals? If we put ourselves in that position and think we can realize the pain, at least to some extent. Also remember we are all the same, including those animals. I don't think any one who thinks that way will do any thing to encourage abusing any animal, bird or fish. I think few days back I had posted an article on the effect of meat on Global warming, Over exploited natural resources, Deforestation, Wasted land, Water and Air Pollution. The most serious environmental problems and majority of the dangerous killer sickness of our time are all directly linked to meat eating and meat by products.

 

Often people live out side of our bhArath says, it is difficult to be vegetarians. Let me tell you, I live in USA and I don’t feel it is that difficult. Remember a lot of people are turning vegetarian every day, same say very day a thousand people are turning vegetarian every day in USA.

 

I wish every one, the whole world to turn Vegetarian, at least in our group, if any one is still non-vegetarian I urge them to turn completely vegetarian now.

 

Thanks

Sincerely,

Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya

The vow not to kill is great indeed, and greater still is non-eating of the flesh; there would be no butcher, if there is non to eat; in eating thus abides the cruder ill, as she/he is the reason for the killing.

 

--- On Tue, 8/18/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

 

Radhe <shaantih

Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!guruvayur Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 4:10 PM

 

 

 

 

 

My dandavat pranams to all...Last night when I returned from abishekam, I returned to Kemleshji'spost. In addition to sending it to Swamiji, I also went online to findsome video and photos which documented the abuse and terrible

conditions in which dairy cows find themselves. These videos aretaken in America, by various organizations whose members workundercover in the farms and/or slaughterhouses. What you watchwill surely bring tears to your eyes, but for the love of the Lord,

you should watch them. Last night I could not bring myself todo so, but today I forced myself to, knowing what I was in forsince I have seen other similar ones in the past. I felt that ifI was sending them to Swamiji and asking him to look at them,

I should do the same.Although I have felt this way for awhile about the use of milkoffered at abishekam, I hesitated to speak up becauseI did not want to seem like an outsider coming in pointingfingers. As it is, some people take some time to get used

to me being there at all, let alone being there and speakingmy often outspoken mind :-) So, I needed time to allowthe vehicle for my thoughts to present itself in a way thatexpressed my thoughts in a format I was comfortable with.

It came in this thread, starting with Nairji's post on themistreatment of elephants, and leading inexorably tothis topic. The Lord has His ways of getting thingsdone through us , if we don't stand in His way. I want

to say that for years I ate meat and was feeding meat to myyoung children, until He called me to Him and slowlyinstilled His infinite mercy into my being. I am crying asI write this, in grief for the videos I just watched and in

gratitude for His Grace.Poor Swamiji....he probably sometimes asks the Lord...Why could you not have dropped her off at someone else'sashram? :-) Anyway, these are the links I sent to him...

http://lawprofessor s.typepad. com/foodlaw/ 2008/02/horrible -dairy.htmlhttp://animalawaken ing.blogspot. com/2008/ 02/wheres- dignity-undercov er-video- reveals.html

http://video. hsus.org/ ?fr_story= b272dd74c155036e b32d8c54857acc00 67109909 & rf=sitemap

http://www.goveg. com/factoryFarmi ng_Cows_Dairy. asp

 

http://www.peta. org/mc/factsheet _display. asp?ID=98Needing to move onto a lighter note, and address the

logisitics of dealing with some of these issues, pleaseallow me to say the following...Kamleshji, let me say here that my adherence is notas firm as I would like it to be...I no longer feed meatto my children, and hesitate to buy pizza or any product

which contains dairy since I do not know where it wasprocessed. But I do know that they eat meat at the homesof some of their friends and I do not interfere. And I have boughtthem pizza and let them have ice cream from the water ice/cream

establishments even this summer. When it comes to these issues,you can imagine that my children do not appreciate my stanceand it has caused some wailing and gnashing of teethas to what a bad Mom I am! I divorced my husband years

ago, and this was and is still an issue. They still get meatthrough him and he has sometimes tried to " sneak " it into my homewhen he returns them after visitation. As far as he is concernedI am a bad Mom and I am " starving " my children by not feeding them

a " proper " diet, so he thinks he is saving them by doing so.But I know that the Lord does not want it here at all,so I am firm in my refusal to allow it here anymore.Some weeks ago, one of our list members posted

with a question about cooking chicken for her son,and I wanted to post on it, but got sidetracked somehow.I do not remember her name, and apologize for notaddressing her directly, but would like to say that

there are products on the market to substitute forthe " real " thing. And you can find them vegan as well.I have been able to get my sons to like one or two, and thismakes me feel better so that I can get some protein into them,

since they have no interest in the Indian cuisine I cook for myself!Morningstar Farms and Boca make vegan products which your sonmight find appealing. You do have to check the ingredients, though,because MSFarms sometimes uses eggwhites.

There are also some soybased " cheeses " as well.You can use them to substitute in your recipes andthey are pretty good too. There is also a Silk brandsoy " creamer " which I prefer to use as a substitute

for milk in my recipes as it does not have that funny\aftertaste which I myself do not like in soymilk.One more thing...Purina does make a veggie dogfoodin its line called Beneful...the Healthy Harvest flavor

has no animal products that I can see. You probablywon't find that flavor in the grocery store, but can get itat the larger petfood chains. While there may not be alotof options, the options are there and He does provide us

with ways to conform to dharmic principles if we are willingto open our hearts and our minds.In His Service,RadheShri Krishna sharanam mamah!!!---- Original Message ----- Veryytterium

 

 

 

guruvayur@grou ps.comCc: shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:22 AMRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Plight of the cow! Please save them!namo narayanaRespected Radheji,Thank you for your firm adherence to ahimsa and for saving the cows’

unnecessary violence.The issue of cow exploitation and abuse is a great one and there are many aspects of it, social, political, religious, economic, health as well as at the spiritual level.On the political level, the worst problems is the so called " Secularists "

and groups from the Muslim and Christian communities who vehemently threaten to bring down the government, if it wants to pass a law , banning all forms of cow slaughter. The usual lacksidasical, dis-interested fragmented Hindu

community does not care about preserving its core values of dharma and allows this gross exploitation.On the medical level, there are many instances which have been proven by non-biased medical authorities which have studied the detrimental effects of

the hormones and antibiotic medications in the milk on human health besides leading to other problems such as high cholesterol levels, obesity etc.These health problems in my opinion are nothing but a part of the Karmic

price which we have to pay for the suffering of these innocent animals..... .....

 

 

-- Best regardsJayasree MenonBangalore+9900149461my blog link: http://www.pythrukam.blogspot.com/--

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