Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 - Veryytterium guruvayur Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:17 AM [Guruvayur] Re: Spurious milk products flood Diwali market ....Yes, it is very saddening to know such a poor response to such an important topic in our group which is " supposedly devoted " to Guruvayoorappan. But we seem to satisfy our duties as devotees, only by talking tall-tales about highly emotional and philosphical topics but when the time comes to implement this in our practical lives, we seem to take an escapist attitude! But is there an escape? Even though we may think we can ignore this abuse, can we escape from the punishment which lies for us for our passive involvement? I absolutely have no expectations from the general Hindu (?) public for support on this issue, if we devotees of Sri Krishna ourselves are not interested. I humbly appeal to all the respected senior members of our community who have mastered our scriptures, to use their position to raise awareness amongst the youth and in our community about this widespread abuse. I will continue to do my service as a devotee of Kannan by trying to spread awarness of this systematic abuse and hope that He gives us courage, intelligience and compassion to change our old-habits and addictions which are responsible for so much sufferings. In the encouraging words of Sri Udayabhanu Panickarji " the fight must go on " While we celebrate Diwali, let us also remember our " mothers " who are silently crying all their lives, as there is none to lighten their darkeness. Sincerely, Dr. Kamlesh --\ ---- Dear respected Dr. Kamleshji: Please do not assume this because people do not write about it on the list. You are attacking firmly entrenched traditions in the path you request others to follow. It may take some time before you see any positive changes around you... the seed which is planted does not spring forth immediately as a flower...it lies seemingly dormant in the earth, until all of the needed circumstances come to fruition to produce the seedling which bursts into the beauty of the flower. So, too, with such things as a major change in diet and attitude, especially where it is also grounded in rituals such as abishekam and the tradition for all of the foods which are offered to the Lord as prasadam. Yet He has chosen to place this issue squarely before this group! So we must trust in His wisdom and serve Him as best we can, knowing that the fruits of such actions are not ours to long for or enjoy, any more than the taste for sweets or payasam. When I go to Temple, there are different devotees each week in addition to the regulars. They come with their prasadam-milk in profusion, sweets and food laced with milk and ghee, love for the Lord in their hearts and ignorance of what they are doing. Will He punish them? I also thought that Swamiji was blind to the videos I sent him, since he said nothing and I have yet to see any notes to the devotees asking for a change in their offerings. Yet, just last week, as I was chatting with one of the women, she mentioned that Swamiji had shown one of the videos to her husband. She also mentioned that she could not bear to look at such things. Years ago, when I ate meat, that was my attitude. I was raised eating meat...I chose to continue to eat it, knowing an animal was killed in the process, but wiped my mind empty of this truth, so I could do so without any guilt. Yet, look at me now...not only have I stopped eating meat, I have also stopped eating animal products and now even write about it! And to Whom does the credit for this change in me belong? Certainly not to me...without His grace, I would still be where I was then. So, realize that what you are writing is indeed the seed, His seed, planted with love and devotion, watered with regularity, and trust that the Light of the Sun will shine upon it at the right time to produce the beautiful flower according to His Supreme Will. Shri Krishna saranam mamah!!! Radhe --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Achuthan Nair <anair1101 wrote: Achuthan Nair <anair1101 [Guruvayur] Re: Fw: [asthikasamaj] Spurious milk products flood Diwali market guruvayur Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:58 PM Hari-Om Dear Gurudev, I am happy to read your persistant e-mails on this issue but it turns out except our own few members noone pays any attention to the cows' agony. The public is not concerned about health issues or the sufferings of the cows as long as they get their requirements, original milk, adulterated, artificial or for that matter donkey's milk . So long as there is demand there will be business irrrespective of the couple of arrests the police make. What is required is public awareness. non-stop advertising about the hazards of using milk and milk products. Will the mediabe prepared to spearhead this compaign ? very doubtful. Afterall they too are in business, aren't they ? To start with Hindu temples should stop making and offering milk products to the deities and even stop milk abhishekam. Swamis and sadhus should avoid drinking milk . Is it feasible ? Not in hundred years. Not when such tempting goodies such as ice cream, milk shake, peda and so on are there for the asking. A very sweet Depvli. jai shree krishna Achuthan Nair ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear Friends, Don’ get disappointed if you don’t see results of your efforts immediately. Just keep doing our part. Results will come. When I started writing about our spiritual Science, which was and is considered by our own people as a dry subject, one of my friends asked me one day how many people read what I write. His question basically arose as he knew only very limited number of people, even our people are interested to read about it. I told him that if one person reads what I write, the time I spent on it is worth it, because I consider it as 100% success. So I kept on writing and talking where ever I got an opportunity. The response was nil in the beginning and very slowly only it increased. I buy “Geeta for children†written by Chinmayananda Swamiji (I think this is the best one for beginners to study) and give as gift to people. After giving I used to request them to call me if they have any questions. This was also a way to see if any one does read it. Again the response was very poor in the beginning and slowly it started to increase and now, I know at least few people who have gone on to study it and then got the full version to study. Same way, when I started propagation of vegetarianism not only it did not get a good reception but also I got very discouraging and even threatening responses, all from so-called Hindus. But I did not back off and it started paying off. I am really happy to say that I was able to inspire a good number of people on this subject. Especially with the email signature I use. Of course I still get occasional unpleasant and arrogant responses, but I just take it in the stride and go on. I just change the message at the email signature very few weeks or so. But the subject is vegetarianism as I feel it is more important as it also has a very vide ranging effect for the humanity as a whole. If the circumstances changes the offerings has to be changed. So if the milk is obtained in a cruel way, Guruvayurappan will never mind if we stopped offering HIM milk and milk products. On the contrary HE may not like it if we keep on offering HIM that kind of milk. In my childhood, my Mother used to milk the cow only after the baby had enough milk and she never fed the cow anything other than natural food. But the circumstances changed and now we get only artificial milk and that too only after giving much suffering to the baby and the Mother cow. But now at least some milk producers announce that they do it in the old natural way. But again they may be lying. I am confident that things will change. Keep your hope up and let the fight go on. Just make sure that you give out the message at every opportunity you have. People may oppose you; they may even insult you, but never get discouraged, but keep doing your part. As per Guruvayurappan our job is to oppose any thing against our dharmam. On vegetarianism, one person had even a long on-going feud with me on the subject for few months. Then the person stopped communication with me altogether for few weeks. Then suddenly I get a one sentence email from him saying that he is turning vegetarian, and later he admitted that I was the reason for that change. So let us keep the work going, just keep doing our part. The results will come. Sincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH. LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. Animals are to be loved, not eaten. Eating flesh is good neither for the mind nor for the intellect, not even for the body. It distorts the basic character of human. --- On Sat, 10/17/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:Radhe <shaantihRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Spurious milk products flood Diwali marketguruvayur Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 10:18 AM - Veryytterium guruvayur@grou ps.com Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:17 AM [Guruvayur] Re: Spurious milk products flood Diwali market ....Yes, it is very saddening to know such a poor response to such an important topic in our group which is "supposedly devoted" to Guruvayoorappan. But we seem to satisfy our duties as devotees, only by talking tall-tales about highly emotional and philosphical topics but when the time comes to implement this in our practical lives, we seem to take an escapist attitude! But is there an escape? Even though we may think we can ignore this abuse, can we escape from the punishment which lies for us for our passive involvement? I absolutely have no expectations from the general Hindu (?) public for support on this issue, if we devotees of Sri Krishna ourselves are not interested. I humbly appeal to all the respected senior members of our community who have mastered our scriptures, to use their position to raise awareness amongst the youth and in our community about this widespread abuse. I will continue to do my service as a devotee of Kannan by trying to spread awarness of this systematic abuse and hope that He gives us courage, intelligience and compassion to change our old-habits and addictions which are responsible for so much sufferings. In the encouraging words of Sri Udayabhanu Panickarji "the fight must go on" While we celebrate Diwali, let us also remember our "mothers" who are silently crying all their lives, as there is none to lighten their darkeness. Sincerely, Dr. Kamlesh ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Dear respected Dr. Kamleshji: Please do not assume this because people do not write about it on the list. You are attacking firmly entrenched traditions in the path you request others to follow. It may take some time before you see any positive changes around you... the seed which is planted does not spring forth immediately as a flower...it lies seemingly dormant in the earth, until all of the needed circumstances come to fruition to produce the seedling which bursts into the beauty of the flower. So, too, with such things as a major change in diet and attitude, especially where it is also grounded in rituals such as abishekam and the tradition for all of the foods which are offered to the Lord as prasadam. Yet He has chosen to place this issue squarely before this group! So we must trust in His wisdom and serve Him as best we can, knowing that the fruits of such actions are not ours to long for or enjoy, any more than the taste for sweets or payasam. When I go to Temple, there are different devotees each week in addition to the regulars. They come with their prasadam-milk in profusion, sweets and food laced with milk and ghee, love for the Lord in their hearts and ignorance of what they are doing. Will He punish them? I also thought that Swamiji was blind to the videos I sent him, since he said nothing and I have yet to see any notes to the devotees asking for a change in their offerings. Yet, just last week, as I was chatting with one of the women, she mentioned that Swamiji had shown one of the videos to her husband. She also mentioned that she could not bear to look at such things. Years ago, when I ate meat, that was my attitude. I was raised eating meat...I chose to continue to eat it, knowing an animal was killed in the process, but wiped my mind empty of this truth, so I could do so without any guilt. Yet, look at me now...not only have I stopped eating meat, I have also stopped eating animal products and now even write about it! And to Whom does the credit for this change in me belong? Certainly not to me...without His grace, I would still be where I was then. So, realize that what you are writing is indeed the seed, His seed, planted with love and devotion, watered with regularity, and trust that the Light of the Sun will shine upon it at the right time to produce the beautiful flower according to His Supreme Will. Shri Krishna saranam mamah!!! Radhe --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Achuthan Nair <anair1101 > wrote: Achuthan Nair <anair1101 > [Guruvayur] Re: Fw: [asthikasamaj] Spurious milk products flood Diwali market guruvayur@grou ps.com Friday, October 16, 2009, 7:58 PM Hari-Om Dear Gurudev, I am happy to read your persistant e-mails on this issue but it turns out except our own few members noone pays any attention to the cows' agony. The public is not concerned about health issues or the sufferings of the cows as long as they get their requirements, original milk, adulterated, artificial or for that matter donkey's milk . So long as there is demand there will be business irrrespective of the couple of arrests the police make. What is required is public awareness. non-stop advertising about the hazards of using milk and milk products. Will the mediabe prepared to spearhead this compaign ? very doubtful. Afterall they too are in business, aren't they ? To start with Hindu temples should stop making and offering milk products to the deities and even stop milk abhishekam. Swamis and sadhus should avoid drinking milk . Is it feasible ? Not in hundred years. Not when such tempting goodies such as ice cream, milk shake, peda and so on are there for the asking. A very sweet Depvli. jai shree krishna Achuthan Nair ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Om Namo Narayanaya I totally agree with Udayabhanu Panicker, since we all know "little drops" make an ocean. A wall is made with bricks one by one only. But I have my own doubt about Vegetables. Are all vegetables safe? At-least I know there are people allergic to vegetables. In my younger days I have seen a friend of mine who cannot eat "Drumsticks" or use any curry in which drumstick is one of the ingredients. Now we have a grandson who is allergic to Peanut. He is only 7yrs old and we all pray for his long life in-spite of this drawback. Tolerance is the one we all need. If we cannot tolerate the "natural" food, we must watch out. Each one of our body is made with different proportions of Fire, Air, Water and Earth, and similarly each vegetable also contain different proportions of these "elements" and they will be working for or against our body. We have to be observant and "realize" which is good and which is bad for us and learn it by "our-self'. Parents should observe and watch for their kids until the children can look after themselves. With regards to the "milk" I do agree spurious milk and milk products are bad, but I still maintain that milk by itself is not (NOT) bad. I must mention that I do not use milk but use curd produced at home which is 2nd generation of milk. I agree that the way generally milk is produced and extracted by Big corporations is CRUEL. We should organize against such "Cruelty" to these poor animals that "helphumans" in many ways. There are "organizations" who in the name of "service" do business with eyes only on personal "profits". A business if conducted seeking only "selfish" profit, God will "see" it is doomed. Any business or "service" for the sake of "others" will always flourish. That is what I have seen so far in my life. I may be wrong in my analysis. I had sent a e-mail to cow protection organization sometime back in September, and it took almost a month to get a reply from them. I am attaching in word format those 2 mails with this post. Any further developments I will certainly bring to the attention of this group. What ever we do, let it be for "others" benefit and not for "self benefit". Om Namo Narayanaya Chandrasekharan "live and let live" "They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive" Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanickarguruvayur Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 11:47:39 PMRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Spurious milk products flood Diwali market Dear Friends,Don’ get disappointed if you don’t see results of your efforts immediately. Just keep doing our part. Results will come. When I started writing about our spiritual Science, which was and is considered by our own people as a dry subject, one of my friends asked me one day how many people read what I write. His question basically arose as he knew only very limited number of people, even our people are interested to read about it. I told him that if one person reads what I write, the time I spent on it is worth it, because I consider it as 100% success. So I kept on writing and talking where ever I got an opportunity. The response was nil in the beginning and very slowly only it increased. I buy “Geeta for children†written by Chinmayananda Swamiji (I think this is the best one for beginners to study) and give as gift to people. After giving I used to request them to call me if they have any questions. This was also a way to see if any one does read it. Again the response was very poor in the beginning and slowly it started to increase and now, I know at least few people who have gone on to study it and then got the full version to study. Same way, when I started propagation of vegetarianism not only it did not get a good reception but also I got very discouraging and even threatening responses, all from so-called Hindus. But I did not back off and it started paying off. I am really happy to say that I was able to inspire a good number of people on this subject. Especially with the email signature I use. Of course I still get occasional unpleasant and arrogant responses, but I just take it in the stride and go on. I just change the message at the email signature very few weeks or so. But the subject is vegetarianism as I feel it is more important as it also has a very vide ranging effect for the humanity as a whole. If the circumstances changes the offerings has to be changed. So if the milk is obtained in a cruel way, Guruvayurappan will never mind if we stopped offering HIM milk and milk products. On the contrary HE may not like it if we keep on offering HIM that kind of milk. In my childhood, my Mother used to milk the cow only after the baby had enough milk and she never fed the cow anything other than natural food. But the circumstances changed and now we get only artificial milk and that too only after giving much suffering to the baby and the Mother cow. But now at least some milk producers announce that they do it in the old natural way. But again they may be lying. I am confident that things will change. Keep your hope up and let the fight go on. Just make sure that you give out the message at every opportunity you have. People may oppose you; they may even insult you, but never get discouraged, but keep doing your part. As per Guruvayurappan our job is to oppose any thing against our dharmam. On vegetarianism, one person had even a long on-going feud with me on the subject for few months. Then the person stopped communication with me altogether for few weeks. Then suddenly I get a one sentence email from him saying that he is turning vegetarian, and later he admitted that I was the reason for that change. So let us keep the work going, just keep doing our part. The results will come. Sincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH. LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. Animals are to be loved, not eaten. Eating flesh is good neither for the mind nor for the intellect, not even for the body. It distorts the basic character of human. --- On Sat, 10/17/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Spurious milk products flood Diwali marketguruvayur@grou ps.comSaturday, October 17, 2009, 10:18 AM - Veryytteriumguruvayur@grou ps.comSaturday, October 17, 2009 12:17 AM[Guruvayur] Re: Spurious milk products flood Diwali market...Yes, it is very saddening to know such a poor response to such animportant topic in our group which is "supposedly devoted" toGuruvayoorappan. But we seem to satisfy our duties as devotees,only by talking tall-tales about highly emotional and philosphical topicsbut when the time comes to implement this in our practical lives, weseem to take an escapist attitude! But is there an escape? Even thoughwe may think we can ignore this abuse, can we escape from the punishmentwhich lies for us for our passive involvement? I absolutely have noexpectations from the general Hindu (?) public for support on this issue,if we devotees of Sri Krishna ourselves are not interested.I humbly appeal to all the respected senior members of our community whohave mastered our scriptures, to use their position to raise awarenessamongst the youth and in our community about this widespread abuse.I will continue to do my service as a devotee of Kannan by trying to spreadawarness of this systematic abuse and hope that He gives us courage,intelligience and compassion to change our old-habits and addictions whichare responsible for so much sufferings.In the encouraging words of Sri Udayabhanu Panickarji "the fight must go on"While we celebrate Diwali, let us also remember our "mothers" who aresilently crying all their lives, as there is none to lighten theirdarkeness.Sincerely,Dr. Kamlesh------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Dear respected Dr. Kamleshji:Please do not assume this because people do not write about it on the list.You are attacking firmly entrenched traditions in the path you requestothers to follow. It may take some time before you see any positive changesaround you... the seed which is planted does not spring forth immediately asa flower...it lies seemingly dormant in the earth, until all of the neededcircumstances come to fruition to produce the seedling which bursts intothe beauty of the flower. So, too, with such things as a major change indiet and attitude, especially where it is also grounded in rituals such asabishekam and the tradition for all of the foods which are offered to theLord as prasadam.Yet He has chosen to place this issue squarely before this group! So wemust trust in His wisdom and serve Him as best we can, knowing that thefruits of such actions are not ours to long for or enjoy, any more than thetaste for sweets or payasam. When I go to Temple, there are differentdevotees each week in addition to the regulars. They come with theirprasadam-milk in profusion, sweets and food laced with milk and ghee, lovefor the Lord in their hearts and ignorance of what they are doing. Will Hepunish them?I also thought that Swamiji was blind to the videos I sent him, since hesaid nothing and I have yet to see any notes to the devotees asking for achange in their offerings. Yet, just last week, as I was chatting with oneof the women, she mentioned that Swamiji had shown one of the videos toher husband. She also mentioned that she could not bear to look at suchthings. Years ago, when I ate meat, that was my attitude. I was raisedeating meat...I chose to continue to eat it, knowing an animal was killedin the process, but wiped my mind empty of this truth, so I could do sowithout any guilt. Yet, look at me now...not only have I stopped eatingmeat, I have also stopped eating animal products and now even write aboutit! And to Whom does the credit for this change in me belong? Certainlynot to me...without His grace, I would still be where I was then. So,realize that what you are writing is indeed the seed, His seed, plantedwith love and devotion, watered with regularity, and trust that the Lightof the Sun will shine upon it at the right time to produce the beautifulflower according to His Supreme Will.Shri Krishna saranam mamah!!!Radhe--- On Fri, 10/16/09, Achuthan Nair <anair1101 > wrote:Achuthan Nair <anair1101 >[Guruvayur] Re: Fw: [asthikasamaj] Spurious milk products floodDiwali marketguruvayur@grou ps.comFriday, October 16, 2009, 7:58 PMHari-OmDear Gurudev,I am happy to read your persistant e-mails on this issue but it turns outexcept our own few members noone pays any attention to the cows' agony.The public is not concerned about health issues or the sufferings of thecows as long as they get their requirements, original milk, adulterated,artificial or for that matter donkey's milk .So long as there is demand there will be business irrrespective of thecouple of arrests the police make.What is required is public awareness. non-stop advertising about the hazardsof using milk and milk products. Will the mediabe prepared to spearhead thiscompaign ? very doubtful. Afterall they too are in business, aren't they ?To start with Hindu temples should stop making and offering milk products tothe deities and even stop milk abhishekam. Swamis and sadhus should avoiddrinking milk .Is it feasible ? Not in hundred years. Not when such tempting goodies suchas ice cream, milk shake, peda and so on are there for the asking.A very sweet Depvli.jai shree krishnaAchuthan Nair ! 1 of 1 File(s) Cow protection mails.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Pranamam Respected Sree JI, Swagatham to Our Guruvayoor Group With Prayers, Jayasankar Vattekkat--- On Mon, 19/10/09, Sree @ Sreyas.in <sree wrote: Sree @ Sreyas.in <sreeRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Spurious milk products flood Diwali marketguruvayur Date: Monday, 19 October, 2009, 11:01 AM *Om Namo Narayanaya*I am a new member to the group, so let me introduce first.I am Sreekandakumar Pillai, living in Chenkottukonam, Thiruvananthapuram,working as a software professional in Kazhakkoottam. Coming to the topic, I am a vegetarian by choice for 19 years. I used totake milk as part of daily tea. But recently I am trying to avoidthat habit too. The reason being, my stomach is not accepting milk tea,giving me gas trouble.I have published what Sree Narayana Guru wrote about Ahimsa in JeevaKaarunya Panchakam (ജീവകാരàµà´£àµà´¯à´ªà´žàµà´šà´•à´‚) here.http://sreyas. in/ahimsa- sree-narayana- guruKannan also used to take milk and milk products. The cows are cared andloved so much, and the milk is taken for homely use only after giving enoughto the calves. This way, I don't think using 'home made' milk is a sin. Atmy home, we make sure to buy milk from our neighbors who care their cowsvery well.As seniors in the group pointed out, in modern dairies where the milking isperformed by machine, it is cruelty to the cows, and should be avoided.SasnehamSree Pillaisree (AT) sreyas (DOT) inOn Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Chandra Menon<chandrasmenon2002@ >wrote:> [Attachment( s) <#12469f7e8df64bb4_ TopText> from Chandra Menon included> below]>> Om Namo Narayanaya> I totally agree with Udayabhanu Panicker, since we all know "little> drops" make an ocean. A wall is made with bricks one by one only.> But I have my own doubt about Vegetables. Are all vegetables safe? At-least> I know there are people allergic to vegetables. In my younger days I have> seen a friend of mine who cannot eat "Drumsticks" or use any curry in which> drumstick is one of the ingredients. Now we have a grandson who is allergic> to Peanut. He is only 7yrs old and we all pray for his long life in-spite of> this drawback. Tolerance is the one we all need. If we cannot tolerate the> "natural" food, we must watch out. Each one of our body is made with> different proportions of Fire, Air, Water and Earth, and similarly each> vegetable also contain different proportions of these "elements" and *they> will be working for or against our body*. We have to be observant and> "realize" which is good and which is bad for us and learn it by "our-self'.> Parents should observe and watch for their kids until the children can look> after themselves.> With regards to the "milk" I do agree spurious milk and milk products are> bad, but I still maintain that milk by itself is not *(NOT)* bad. I must> mention that I *do not use milk* but use curd produced at home which is> 2nd generation of milk. I agree that the way generally milk is produced and> extracted by Big corporations is CRUEL. We should organize against such> "Cruelty" to these poor animals that "helphumans" in many ways. There are> "organizations" who in the name of "service" do business with eyes only on> personal "profits". A business if conducted seeking only "selfish" profit,> God will "see" it is doomed. Any business or "service" for the sake of> "others" will always flourish. That is what I have seen so far in my life. I> may be wrong in my analysis.>> I had sent a e-mail to cow protection organization sometime back in> September, and it took almost a month to get a reply from them. I am> attaching in word format those 2 mails with this post. Any further> developments I will certainly bring to the attention of this group.> What ever we do, let it be for "others" benefit and not for "self benefit".> Om Namo Narayanaya> Chandrasekharan>>> "live and let live">> "They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive">> Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 namo narayana Respected Sir, Yes, there are still some places in India where the cows may be treated well till she continues to give milk. But sadly many cows are just abandoned or sold in their old age when they stop giving milk. These abandoned cows are left on the streets of cities to scavenge on refuse, eating plastic bags and other trash they die a miserable death. The unlucky ones are hit by errant cars/trucks and lie on the roads to die a bloody death, a sad reward for giving their milk to humans all their lives. The old cows which are sold, are illegally transported in horrific conditions to sluaghterhouses at the outskirts of cities to be brutally killed in the most primitive and brutal manner for meat and leather. We humans are indeed honouring the cows very well for their self-less service to us! I recently came to know that unfortunately apart from West Bengal, Kerala are the only states in which cow-slaughter is legal. Thousands of old sick cows which dont give milk anymore are illegally transported from border villages to be killed in these states. I have myself seen in Mumbai, many trucks are secrelty loaded with this poor animals to be slaughtered in the middle of the night. For more information please visit, http://www.vnn.org/world/WD0002/WD15-5476.html http://hindutruth.blogspot.com/2006/09/untold-cruel-cow-slaughtering-in.html http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=1801 & SKIN=l http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/880114 If we cannot worship our cows, let us atleast not torture them! Please support cow-protection by visiting, www.careforcows.org/ http://www.gomaathagoshala.com/photos.htm Sincerely, Kamlesh --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Sree @ Sreyas.in <sree wrote: Sree @ Sreyas.in <sreeRe: [Guruvayur] Re: Spurious milk products flood Diwali marketguruvayur Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 1:31 AM *Om Namo Narayanaya*I am a new member to the group, so let me introduce first.I am Sreekandakumar Pillai, living in Chenkottukonam, Thiruvananthapuram,working as a software professional in Kazhakkoottam. Coming to the topic, I am a vegetarian by choice for 19 years. I used totake milk as part of daily tea. But recently I am trying to avoidthat habit too. The reason being, my stomach is not accepting milk tea,giving me gas trouble.I have published what Sree Narayana Guru wrote about Ahimsa in JeevaKaarunya Panchakam (ജീവകാരàµà´£àµà´¯à´ªà´žàµà´šà´•à´‚) here.http://sreyas. in/ahimsa- sree-narayana- guruKannan also used to take milk and milk products. The cows are cared andloved so much, and the milk is taken for homely use only after giving enoughto the calves. This way, I don't think using 'home made' milk is a sin. Atmy home, we make sure to buy milk from our neighbors who care their cowsvery well.As seniors in the group pointed out, in modern dairies where the milking isperformed by machine, it is cruelty to the cows, and should be avoided.SasnehamSree Pillaisree (AT) sreyas (DOT) inOn Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Chandra Menon<chandrasmenon2002@ >wrote:> [Attachment( s) <#12469f7e8df64bb4_ TopText> from Chandra Menon included> below]>> Om Namo Narayanaya> I totally agree with Udayabhanu Panicker, since we all know "little> drops" make an ocean. A wall is made with bricks one by one only.> But I have my own doubt about Vegetables. Are all vegetables safe? At-least> I know there are people allergic to vegetables. In my younger days I have> seen a friend of mine who cannot eat "Drumsticks" or use any curry in which> drumstick is one of the ingredients. Now we have a grandson who is allergic> to Peanut. He is only 7yrs old and we all pray for his long life in-spite of> this drawback. Tolerance is the one we all need. If we cannot tolerate the> "natural" food, we must watch out. Each one of our body is made with> different proportions of Fire, Air, Water and Earth, and similarly each> vegetable also contain different proportions of these "elements" and *they> will be working for or against our body*. We have to be observant and> "realize" which is good and which is bad for us and learn it by "our-self'.> Parents should observe and watch for their kids until the children can look> after themselves.> With regards to the "milk" I do agree spurious milk and milk products are> bad, but I still maintain that milk by itself is not *(NOT)* bad. I must> mention that I *do not use milk* but use curd produced at home which is> 2nd generation of milk. I agree that the way generally milk is produced and> extracted by Big corporations is CRUEL. We should organize against such> "Cruelty" to these poor animals that "helphumans" in many ways. There are> "organizations" who in the name of "service" do business with eyes only on> personal "profits". A business if conducted seeking only "selfish" profit,> God will "see" it is doomed. Any business or "service" for the sake of> "others" will always flourish. That is what I have seen so far in my life. I> may be wrong in my analysis.>> I had sent a e-mail to cow protection organization sometime back in> September, and it took almost a month to get a reply from them. I am> attaching in word format those 2 mails with this post. Any further> developments I will certainly bring to the attention of this group.> What ever we do, let it be for "others" benefit and not for "self benefit".> Om Namo Narayanaya> Chandrasekharan>>> "live and let live">> "They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive">> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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