October 17, 2009

--- On Sat, 17/10/09, Jayasankar Vattekkat <jsvattekkat wrote:

Jayasankar Vattekkat <jsvattekkatFW: à´¶àµà´°àµ‡à´¯à´¸àµ à´µà´¾à´°àµâ€à´¤àµà´¤à´¾à´ªà´¤àµà´°à´¿à´•"vinod vattekkat" <vinodvattekkatSaturday, 17 October, 2009, 9:41 AM

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October 17, 2009

Dear JayasankarjiYour efforts will beÂ usefulÂ for all our members.wish you all the best with PrayersYour servantMani

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-- At the present moment our minds are polluted with the dirt accumulated over millions and millions of lifetimes of sense gratification. Even though our original pure nature is eternal, full of knowledge, and full of bliss, due to our mental contamination we are presently suffering in the realm of temporality, ignorance, and misery. By the purificatory process of chanting the holy names of God we can revive our original, pure nature and thus relish the sweetest happiness at every minute.

Chant:Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare HareHare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare

October 18, 2009

Pranamam Manikandanji,

Thank you so much for your Prayers. I have received this mail from http://sreyas.in/. I thought this mail will useful to our group members. So i forwarded this to our group. The owner of this site is Respected "Sree" ji.So kindly visit this site and inform your valued opinion to them.

With Prayers,

Jayasankar Vattekkat--- On Sat, 17/10/09, manikantan <manikantank wrote:

manikantan <manikantankRe: [Guruvayur] à´¸àµà´µà´¾à´®à´¿ à´¸à´¨àµà´¦àµ€à´ªàµâ€Œ à´šàµˆà´¤à´¨àµà´¯à´¯àµà´Ÿàµ† à´—àµ€à´¤à´¾à´œàµà´žà´¾à´¨à´¯à´œàµà´ž à´ªàµà´°à´à´¾à´·à´£à´™àµà´™à´³àµâ€ à´¸àµ€à´°àµ€à´¸àµâ€Œguruvayur Date: Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 10:47 PM

Dear Jayasankarji

Your efforts will be useful for all our members.

wish you all the best with Prayers

Your servant

Mani

2009/10/17 jayasankar vattekkat <vinodvattekkat@ .co. in>

--- On Sat, 17/10/09, Jayasankar Vattekkat <jsvattekkat@ hotmail.com> wrote:

Jayasankar Vattekkat <jsvattekkat@ hotmail.com>FW: à´¶àµà´°àµ‡à´¯à´¸àµ à´µà´¾à´°àµâ€à´¤àµà´¤à´¾à´ªà´¤àµà´°à´¿à´•"vinod vattekkat" <vinodvattekkat@ .co. in>Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 9:41 AM

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-- At the present moment our minds are polluted with the dirt accumulated over millions and millions of lifetimes of sense gratification. Even though our original pure nature is eternal, full of knowledge, and full of bliss, due to our mental contamination we are presently suffering in the realm of temporality, ignorance, and misery. By the purificatory process of chanting the holy names of God we can revive our original, pure nature and thus relish the sweetest happiness at every minute.Chant:Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare HareHare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare

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October 20, 2009

Dear Jayashankar and others,

I do believe that any information we have should be disseminated to others, specially

the message of Geetha. But it should not misguide people. Especially people who

are in the beginning stage of learning a very difficult subject like the

message of Geetha. That is the reason I write this note.

I don't think the interpretations given here are correct and

with good intentions. These interpretations of Geetha are far below the

standard of that of any I have seen including our own Sarojaji. There are lots

of Geetha interpretations available in book form. The best I have found are by Chinmayanada

Swami, Nataraja Guru, Guru Nitya Chaithanya Yathi, Swami Gambhirananda or Prof.

G. Balakrishnan Nair or any other spiritual Masters of ours, which can guide us

in the study of Geetha. For beginners the best one I fond is by ChinmayAnanda

Swami titled â€œGeeta for Childrenâ€. (Donâ€™t be skeptics because of the name. The

word Children could easily be replaced by beginners.) Another one, good for beginners

is one by Guru Nitya Chaithanya Yeti, which is the form of dialogue between two

brothers. But these interpretations given here, in this site can mislead the people

and I strongly believe that it is done intentionally. When we take it

consideration the background of the person interpreting, that believes even

gets stronger.

(One of his interpretations is given bellow.) Here the Paadvaas

are blamed for the war. It terms Maayanâ€™s construction of Indraprastham as a

bribe. (It is similar to interpreting Killing of RAvaNan as an act of terrorism.)

Is it a bribe or expressing his gratitude for saving his life? A capital of a

country is where the King lives and the house where He lives is not just a vAsasthalam

it is a palace, from where the administration of the country is also conducted.

The capital and the palace should be treated as such and The King should not

live in an ordinary vAsasthalam. Jealousy is not the cause of MahAbhAratham

war. It was the war between the good and evil and Indraprastham was not a cause

either. The war was inevitable because the Kawravar are the personification of

evil. Yes, PAnchAli should not have laughed. Then any one who studies

MahAbhAratham knows that PAnchAli was not the perfect person and she is bound

to make mistakes. It is not Suyodhanan, it is Duryodhanan. The interpretation

is trying to change the basic characteristics of the evil and make him the good

character. It is the same as blaming Shree Raman for killing RAvaNan and Shree

for killing Kamsan. PAnchAli is not just a Veettukari, She is the Queen. Rajasooyam

was a necessity of that time. Equating that to the present day wedding is

wrong. Interpreting the spirituality of bhAratham with a measuring gauge of

present day Communism is very much wrong. All these negative characterization

of the pANdavAs and the events in there will definitely affect us and our

spirituality in a very negative way.

Here I see the use of the political tool of â€˜destruction

from with inâ€™. It is a widely used political tool, getting into a system and

destroying it from within. A lot of the so-called ideologists, present and

past, from the east and the west also did this.

Geetha, is a nara

nArAyana samvAdam, (A Guru Shishya discussion and it is a learning process) not

a political debate to see who is better. It is not a debate to win, it is

discussion to learn and teach. So I donâ€™t think this is the correct way of

interpreting Geetha and it is not the correct way of learning Geetha either. We

have many genuine spiritual Masters to learn it from. In my opinion these interpretations

are very much tainted with communist ideology and secularist methodology and

that is never to be followed. It can misguide the people who are trying to learn

Geetha, specially the beginners. Communists have painted a very tainted picture

of Shree Chattambi Swamikal and Shree Narayana Gurudevan for their own benefits

and the followers of both of them did not question this in the way it should

have been done. And even some of them encouraged it. I feel this is the same, trying

to use Geetha for political purpose. I am not saying other political parties

did not use those two spiritual masters and our spirituality for political benefits.

They all did and still continuing to use. Until the politicians are out of our Temples they will keep on

doing this, because none of the value our spirituality as the Kings used to. I

see this interpretation as a political tool. So I request all to be careful in

selecting the correct interpretation to learn the message of Geetha.

The best Geetha interpretation available now on TV is by Prof

Turavoor Vishambharan on Amrita TV at 8:30 to 9 AM on weekdays. And you can

also hear the best Malayalam and English available on Malayalam TV from him.

Posted: 17 Oct 2009 07:01 AM PDT

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Sincerely,Udayabhanu

Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH. LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. Animals are to be loved, not eaten. Eating flesh is good neither for the mind nor for the intellect, not even for

the body. It distorts the basic character of human. --- On Sat, 10/17/09, jayasankar vattekkat <vinodvattekkat wrote:jayasankar vattekkat <vinodvattekkat[Guruvayur] à´¸àµà´µà´¾à´®à´¿ à´¸à´¨àµà´¦àµ€à´ªàµâ€Œ à´šàµˆà´¤à´¨àµà´¯à´¯àµà´Ÿàµ† à´—àµ€à´¤à´¾à´œàµà´žà´¾à´¨à´¯à´œàµà´ž à´ªàµà´°à´à´¾à´·à´£à´™àµà´™à´³àµâ€ à´¸àµ€à´°àµ€à´¸àµâ€Œ"à´—àµà´°àµà´µà´¾à´¯àµ‚à´°à´ªàµà´ªàµ»" <guruvayur >Saturday, October 17, 2009, 12:15 AM

--- On Sat, 17/10/09, Jayasankar Vattekkat <jsvattekkat@ hotmail.com> wrote:

Jayasankar Vattekkat <jsvattekkat@ hotmail.com>FW: à´¶àµà´°àµ‡à´¯à´¸àµ à´µà´¾à´°àµâ€à´¤àµà´¤à´¾à´ªà´¤àµà´°à´¿à´•"vinod vattekkat" <vinodvattekkat@ .co. in>Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 9:41 AM

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Hari OM!With due respects to Panicker chettan, I would like to say that Swami Sandeep Chaithanya's Gita lectures are inspiration to a lot of people- young and old. He follows the Advaitha - vedantha tradition of explaining scriptures using authentic texts. (I know, some people think that Advaitha itself is blasphemy!). He quotes from Adi Sankara, Swami Chinmayananda, Narayanaguru, Chattambi swamikal and masters of other traditions.Swamiji's works have been appreciated and supported by many people of eminence in the socio-cultural fields (Prof. Abdul Kalam, C. Radhakrishnan, Prof. G. Balakrishnan Nair, Prof. Vishnunarayanan Namboodiri, Smt. Sugathakumari, Smt. Sumangala etc. etc. to name a few..). He is a successful orator who has appeared in Dooradarsan, Amrita and now in Asianet. (Please see www.sobg.org) . Please see the

'Piravi' magazine published by the School of Bhagavad Gita as well.The beauty of Indian literature and scriptures is that we allow and appreciate differing points of view on the same philosophy and learn from them to create our own conclusions. These Acharya's give us the inspiration to study the scriptures and it is up to us to decipher what is appropriate for us. Hari OM!Sukumar--- On Tue, 10/20/09, Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanickar wrote:Udayabhanu Panickar <udhayabhanupanickarRe: [Guruvayur] à´¸àµà´µà´¾à´®à´¿ à´¸à´¨àµà´¦àµ€à´ªàµâ€Œ à´šàµˆà´¤à´¨àµà´¯à´¯àµà´Ÿàµ† à´—àµ€à´¤à´¾à´œàµà´žà´¾à´¨à´¯à´œàµà´ž à´ªàµà´°à´à´¾à´·à´£à´™àµà´™à´³àµâ€ à´¸àµ€à´°àµ€à´¸àµâ€ŒTo:

guruvayur Received: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 2:31 PM