Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Om Namo Narayanaya To my Gurudevs What is sacrifice? When to sacrifice? Why to sacrifice? തയàµà´¾à´—à´‚ eô€…‹à´¾àµ½ - Sacrifice. Please read on. The above article was posted by our Udhayabhanu Panickar-ji recently that I am trying to translate to English for those who cannot read Malayalam since I liked this one very much à´Žà´¨àµà´¤à´¿à´¨àµâ€Œ à´¤àµà´¯à´¾à´—à´‚ à´¤àµà´¯à´œà´¿à´•àµà´•à´£à´‚ à´¶àµà´°àµ€à´°à´¾à´®à´•àµƒà´·àµà´£à´¦àµ‡à´µà´¨àµ‹à´Ÿàµâ€Œ ഈശാനനàµâ€ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨ à´à´•àµà´¤à´¨àµâ€ "സകലരàµà´‚ സംസാരം ഉപേകàµà´·à´¿à´šàµà´šà´¾à´²àµâ€ à´…à´¤àµâ€Œ ഈശàµà´µà´°àµ‡à´šàµà´›à´¯àµà´•àµà´•àµ വിപരീതമായ à´ªàµà´°à´µàµƒà´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´¯à´¾à´¯à´¿à´°à´¿à´•àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´²àµ‡?" ചോദàµà´¯à´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´²àµâ€ à´¶àµà´°àµ€à´°à´¾à´®à´•àµƒà´·àµà´£à´¦àµ‡à´µà´¨àµâ€ പറഞàµà´ž മറàµà´ªà´Ÿà´¿ à´¶àµà´°à´µà´¿à´•àµà´•àµ‚. Listen to the reply Sree Ramakrishnadevan when a devotee by named EeSaanan asked "if everybody sacrifice the society (family life) will that not be an act against the wish of God?" à´Žà´¨àµà´¤à´¿à´¨àµ സരàµâ€à´µàµà´µà´°àµà´‚ à´¤àµà´¯à´œà´¿à´•àµà´•à´£à´‚? à´Žà´¨àµà´¨à´¾à´²àµâ€ പടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´¯àµ†à´¯àµà´‚ à´•àµà´±àµà´•àµà´•à´¨àµ†à´¯àµà´‚ പോലെ സകലരàµà´‚ കാമനീകാഞàµà´šà´¨à´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´²àµâ€ തലയàµà´‚ പൂഴàµà´¤àµà´¤à´¿ വാഴണമെനàµà´¨à´¾à´£àµ‹ ഈശàµà´µà´°àµ‡à´šàµà´›? à´…à´¦àµà´¦àµ‡à´¹à´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´¨àµà´±àµ† ഇചàµà´› à´Žà´¨àµà´¤à´¾à´£àµâ€Œ, അനിചàµà´› à´à´¤à´¾à´£àµâ€Œ, à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµŠà´•àµà´•àµ† നിനകàµà´•à´±à´¿à´¯à´¾à´®àµ‹? Why should all sacrifice? But is that God's will that all should live like dogs and foxes enjoying the sexy life? Do you know what is God's like and dislike etc.? സംസാരജീവിതം നയികàµà´•àµà´•à´¯àµ†à´¨àµà´¨à´¤àµâ€Œ ഈശàµà´µà´°àµ‡à´šàµà´›à´¯à´¾à´£àµ†à´¨àµà´¨àµ നീ പറയàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. à´à´¾à´°àµà´¯à´¯àµ‹ മകനോ മരികàµà´•àµà´®àµà´ªàµ‹à´³àµâ€ à´…à´¤àµà´‚ à´à´—വാനàµà´±àµ† ഇചàµà´›à´¯à´¾à´£àµâ€Œ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµ കാണാനàµâ€ കഴിയാതàµà´¤à´¤àµ†à´¨àµà´¤àµà´•àµŠà´£àµà´Ÿà´¾à´£àµâ€Œ? You say leading a family life is God's desire. When wife, or son dies, why it is not considered as God's desire? കൊറàµà´±à´¿à´¨àµŠà´°àµ വറàµà´±àµà´®à´¿à´²àµà´²à´¾à´¤àµà´¤à´ªàµà´ªàµ‹à´³àµâ€, പടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´£à´¿ à´•à´¿à´Ÿà´•àµà´•àµà´®àµà´ªàµ‹à´³àµâ€, à´…à´ªàµà´ªàµ‹à´³àµâ€ à´à´—വാനàµà´±àµ† ഇചàµà´› കാണാനàµâ€ à´•à´£àµà´£à´¿à´²àµà´²à´¾à´¤àµà´¤à´¤àµ†à´¨àµà´¤àµà´•àµŠà´£àµà´Ÿàµâ€Œ? when a crane does not get a fish, and starving, why that cannot be visualised as God's desire? ഈശàµà´µà´°à´¨àµà´±àµ† ഇചàµà´› à´Žà´¨àµà´¤à´¾à´£àµ†à´¨àµà´¨à´±à´¿à´¯àµà´µà´¾à´¨àµâ€ മായ നമàµà´®àµ† à´…à´¨àµà´µà´¦à´¿à´•àµà´•àµà´•à´¯à´¿à´²àµà´². Maaya or illusion will not allow us to recognize what is God's will or desire. à´…à´¦àµà´¦àµ‡à´¹à´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´¨àµà´±àµ† മായമൂലം അനിതàµà´¯à´‚ നിതàµà´¯à´®àµ†à´¨àµà´¨àµ തോനàµà´¨àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. നിതàµà´¯à´‚ അനിതàµà´¯à´®àµ†à´¨àµà´¨àµà´‚ തോനàµà´¨àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. By HIS maaya, what is lasting appears to be shortlived and that everlasting is shortlived സംസാരം അനിതàµà´¯à´®à´¾à´•àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. ഇതാ ഉണàµà´Ÿàµâ€Œ, ഇതാ തീരàµâ€à´¨àµà´¨àµ! പകàµà´·àµ‡ à´à´—വാനàµâ€à´®à´¾à´¯à´•àµŠà´£àµà´Ÿàµâ€Œ ഇതൠസതàµà´¯à´®à´¾à´£àµ†à´¨àµà´¨àµ തോനàµà´¨àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ.Family life (samsaaram) is not lasting one. Sometime it is there and other time it over. But due to HIS maaya that samsara seems to be true and lasting. à´…à´¦àµà´¦àµ‡à´¹à´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´¨àµà´±àµ† മായകൊണàµà´Ÿàµâ€Œ മാതàµà´°à´®à´¾à´£àµâ€Œ. ' ഞാനàµâ€ à´•à´°àµâ€à´¤àµà´¤à´¾à´µà´¾à´•àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ' à´Žà´¨àµà´¨ ബോധമàµà´£àµà´Ÿà´¾à´•àµà´¨àµà´¨à´¤àµâ€Œ. "I am the doer" feeling is created by HIS maya only. à´à´¾à´°àµà´¯à´ªàµà´¤àµà´°à´¨àµà´®à´¾à´°àµâ€, സഹോദരീസഹോദരനàµà´®à´¾à´°àµâ€, à´…à´šàµà´›à´¨à´®àµà´®à´®à´¾à´°àµâ€, വീടàµâ€Œ, പറമàµà´ªàµâ€Œ ഇവയൊകàµà´•àµ† à´¸àµà´µà´¨àµà´¤à´®àµ†à´¨àµà´¨àµ തോനàµà´¨àµà´¨àµà´¨à´¤àµà´‚ മായമൂലമാണàµâ€Œ"The feeling, that Wife,children,brothers and sisters, parents, house, estate all these are our own is also due to HIS maaya. മായയിലàµâ€ വിദàµà´¯à´¯àµà´‚ അവിദàµà´¯à´¯àµà´‚ à´°à´£àµà´Ÿàµà´‚ ഉണàµà´Ÿàµâ€Œ. അവിദàµà´¯ സംസാരതàµà´¤à´¿à´²àµâ€ മോഹിപàµà´ªà´¿à´•àµà´•àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. In this maaya, both vidya and avidya exist. Avidya generates interest in samsaram or family life വിദàµà´¯à´¾à´®à´¾à´¯- à´œàµà´žà´¾à´¨à´‚, à´à´•àµà´¤à´¿, സാധàµà´¸à´‚à´—à´‚- ഈശàµà´µà´°à´¨à´¿à´²àµ‡à´¯àµà´•àµà´•àµ നയികàµà´•àµà´•à´¯àµà´‚ ചെയàµà´¯àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ.vidya maaya - wisdom, devotion, satsangam etc leads one towards God ഈശàµà´µà´°à´•àµƒà´ªà´•àµŠà´£àµà´Ÿàµ മായയെ അതികàµà´°à´®à´¿à´šàµà´šà´µà´¨àµà´±àµ† ദൃഷàµà´Ÿà´¿à´¯à´¿à´²àµâ€ സരàµâ€à´µà´µàµà´‚ ഒരൠപോലെ, വിദàµà´¯à´¯àµà´‚ à´’à´°àµà´ªàµ‹à´²àµ† ആകàµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. With HIS grace, one who conquers maaya, in his outlook, all are equal including vidya. സംസാരജീവിതം à´àµ‹à´—ജീവിതമാണàµâ€Œ. à´Žà´¤àµà´°à´¯à´¾à´¯à´¾à´²àµà´‚ കാമിനീ കാഞàµà´šà´¨à´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´²àµâ€ à´àµà´œà´¿à´•àµà´•à´¾à´¨àµ†à´¨àµà´¤àµà´£àµà´Ÿàµâ€Œ? സനàµà´¦àµ‡à´¶àµâ€Œ തൊണàµà´Ÿà´¯àµà´•àµà´•àµ കീഴോടàµà´Ÿàµ Family life happy life. But what is there to eat? Food once reaches the throat ഇറങàµà´™à´¿à´•àµà´•à´´à´¿à´žàµà´žà´¾à´²àµâ€, തീരàµâ€à´¨àµà´¨àµ. പിനàµà´¨àµ†à´¯à´¤àµ മധàµà´°à´®àµ‹ à´ªàµà´³à´¿à´¯àµ‹ à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´•àµ‚à´Ÿà´¿ à´“à´°àµâ€à´®àµà´® കാണàµà´•à´¯à´¿à´²àµà´².then it cannot be recognized if it is sweet or bitter. à´Žà´¨àµà´¨àµà´µàµ†à´šàµà´šàµâ€Œ à´Žà´²àµà´²à´¾à´µà´°àµà´‚ à´Žà´¨àµà´¤à´¿à´¨àµ à´¤àµà´¯à´œà´¿à´•àµà´•à´£à´‚? സമയം വരാതെ à´¤àµà´¯à´¾à´—à´‚ വരàµà´®àµ‹? Even if it is so, why should all sacrifice? Unless the time arrives, feeling of sacrifice will not arrive. à´àµ‹à´—à´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´¨àµà´±àµ† അവസാനമെതàµà´¤à´¿à´¯à´¾à´²àµâ€ à´…à´ªàµà´ªàµ‹à´³àµâ€ à´¤àµà´¯à´¾à´—à´¤àµà´¤à´¿à´¨àµà´³àµà´³ സമയം വരàµà´‚. ബലം à´ªàµà´°à´¯àµ‹à´—à´¿à´šàµà´šàµâ€Œ ആരàµâ€à´•àµà´•àµ†à´™àµà´•à´¿à´²àµà´‚ à´¤àµà´¯à´¾à´—à´‚ At the end of the enjoyment the time for sacrifice will arrive. Using force can anyone sacrifice? ചെയàµà´¯à´¾à´¨àµŠà´•àµà´•àµà´®àµ‹? ഒരൠതരം വൈരാഗàµà´¯à´®àµà´£àµà´Ÿàµâ€Œ. അതിനൠമരàµâ€à´•àµà´•à´Ÿà´µàµˆà´°à´¾à´—àµà´¯à´®àµ†à´¨àµà´¨à´¾à´£àµâ€Œ പറയാറàµâ€Œ. ഹീനബàµà´¦àµà´§à´¿à´•à´³àµâ€à´•àµà´•à´¾à´£àµâ€Œ ഇതàµà´¤à´°à´‚ വൈരാഗàµà´¯à´‚ വരàµà´¨àµà´¨à´¤àµâ€Œ. A type of renunciation. That is called monkey renunciation. Low level people get this type of renunciation. à´…à´šàµà´›à´¨àµâ€ മരിചàµà´š ഒരൠകàµà´Ÿàµà´Ÿà´¿à´¯àµà´Ÿàµ† കാരàµà´¯à´®àµ†à´Ÿàµà´•àµà´•à´¾à´‚. അവനàµà´±àµ† à´…à´®àµà´® നൂലൠനൂറàµà´±à´¾à´£àµâ€Œ à´•à´´à´¿à´žàµà´žàµ കൂടàµà´¨àµà´¨à´¤àµâ€Œ. പയàµà´¯à´¨àµâ€Œ à´Žà´¨àµà´¤àµ‹ à´šà´¿à´²àµà´²à´±à´¯àµŠà´°àµ Take the case of a boy whose father died. His mother lives miserably by spinning cotton. The boy had a small job. ജോലി ഉണàµà´Ÿà´¾à´¯à´¿à´°àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. à´…à´¤àµà´‚ പോയി. അവനàµâ€Œ പെടàµà´Ÿàµ†à´¨àµà´¨àµŠà´°àµ വൈരാഗàµà´¯à´‚ തോനàµà´¨àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ; കാവിതàµà´¤àµà´£à´¿ à´šàµà´±àµà´±àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ, à´Žà´¨àµà´¨à´¿à´Ÿàµà´Ÿàµ കാശികàµà´•àµŠà´°àµ നട. He lost that job. He relinquishes all, cladding saffron cloth, goes to Banares. à´Žà´¨àµà´¨à´¿à´Ÿàµà´Ÿàµ à´•àµà´±à´šàµà´šàµ ദിവസം à´•à´´à´¿à´žàµà´žàµ വീടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´²àµ‡à´•àµà´•àµ à´•à´¤àµà´¤àµ†à´´àµà´¤àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. ' എനികàµà´•àµŠà´°àµ ജോലികിടàµà´Ÿà´¿à´¯à´¿à´°à´¿à´•àµà´•àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ; മാസം പതàµà´¤àµà´°àµ‚പയാണàµâ€Œ ശമàµà´ªà´³à´‚' After sometime he writes a letter that he got a job and I get Rs. 10/- (olden days) അതിനിടയàµà´•àµà´•àµ പൊനàµâ€à´®àµ‹à´¤à´¿à´°à´µàµà´‚ നലàµà´² ഉടàµà´ªàµà´ªàµà´‚ മൂണàµà´Ÿàµà´‚ മേടികàµà´•à´¾à´¨àµâ€ വഴി നോകàµà´•àµà´¨àµà´¨àµ. അവനàµà´±àµ† à´àµ‹à´—േചàµà´› à´Žà´™àµà´™àµ‹à´Ÿàµà´Ÿàµ പോകാനാണàµâ€Œ? Now he is making arrangments for nicer clothes and a golden ring. Where does his desire to enjoy goes? (This is the passage.. I hope our members can get the gist of Shree Ramakrishna Dev's advice. To me live the life that you have peacefully, and in the case of the boy, had helped his mother, he would have had more satisfaction than going to Banares!!!) Please forgive me if I had translated something wrongly and those who are better qualified, kindly correct the same Thanking you all Chandrasekharan "live and let live" "They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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