Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hari Om For the ‘body’ there are three different words in Sanskrit—sareeram, dehah and vapuh. The derivation of each of these is significant. Sareeram—seeryate iti sareeram- that which is perishable is sareeram. The physical body is perishable and so it is called sareeram. dehah- This is derived from the verbal root dih which means ‘to grow’. So the word dehah can be used to denote the body when it is in the stage of growth. According to Vedanta, every living being has six stages- jaayate (is born), asti (exists), vardhate (grows), viparinamate (changes), apakshiyate (declines), vinasyati (dies). The word dehah is most appropriate in the stage of growth, though it is normally used without any such distinction. vapuh- upyate purvakarmabhih- that which is reaped by the sowing of past karma. Past karma is the seed which gives rise to the present body. This vedantic truth is contained in this word. The word Murari is an interesting one. It is well known as the name of Krishna and it was given to him because he killed the demon Mura. Murari means the enemy or destroyer of Mura. But the word Murari has also a vedantic meaning. ‘Mura’ is a verbal root in Sanskrit meaning ‘to cover’. We are all covered by ignorance of our real nature and so we think of ourselves as the body, while we are really the Atma. So Mura stands for our ignorance. Krishna destroys our ignorance and gives us enlightenment. So he is the destroyer of Mura, or Murari. Best wishes to all, S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Namaste Sastriji!I enjoyed your short note describing the subtle difference in meanings of the words very much. Now I am wondering how I can remember. Both meanings of murari give me food for thought. I used to wonder why the word murari was used in Srimad Bhagavatam before Sri Krishna killed Mura. Now it all makes sense. Namaskaram!Hari Aum!Chith PuramOn Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Nilakantan sastri <snsastri wrote: Hari Om For the ‘body’ there are three different words in Sanskrit—sareeram, dehah and vapuh. The derivation of each of these is significant. Sareeram—seeryate iti sareeram- that which is perishable is sareeram. The physical body is perishable and so it is called sareeram. dehah- This is derived from the verbal root dih which means ‘to grow’. So the word dehah can be used to denote the body when it is in the stage of growth. According to Vedanta, every living being has six stages- jaayate (is born), asti (exists), vardhate (grows), viparinamate (changes), apakshiyate (declines), vinasyati (dies). The word dehah is most appropriate in the stage of growth, though it is normally used without any such distinction. vapuh- upyate purvakarmabhih- that which is reaped by the sowing of past karma. Past karma is the seed which gives rise to the present body. This vedantic truth is contained in this word. The word Murari is an interesting one. It is well known as the name of Krishna and it was given to him because he killed the demon Mura. Murari means the enemy or destroyer of Mura. But the word Murari has also a vedantic meaning. ‘Mura’ is a verbal root in Sanskrit meaning ‘to cover’. We are all covered by ignorance of our real nature and so we think of ourselves as the body, while we are really the Atma. So Mura stands for our ignorance. Krishna destroys our ignorance and gives us enlightenment. So he is the destroyer of Mura, or Murari. Best wishes to all, S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Dandavat pranams Shri Sastriji!!! I too enjoyed your short note and you particularly caught my attention by the definition for Mura. There is a well known verse (I am not sure what it is called, whether it is a sloka or stands alone or is an excerpt from some work) which is often sung as a chant or bhajan. When I was learning a version of it, I had gone online to find the translation I reproduce below. It used the word Murare to represent the Lord as slayer of the demon Mur and equates Mur with the ego, which, of course, is that which enshrouds us in ignorance! I am wondering if you could address the second half of the word as to its root meanings for our benefit of understanding it better? It seems to alternate interchangeably as Murare or Murari. SHRI KRISHNA GOVINDA HARE MURAREHE NATHA NARAYANA VASUDEVA Krishna (Govinda), slayer of the demon Mur (ego) Oh Lord known as Narayana son of Vasudeva. And here is a mesmerizing youtube video version I had found, for which I do not know the raga used... Hari OM!!! In His Service, Radhe ------------ The word Murari is an interesting one. It is well known as the name of Krishna and it was given to him because he killed the demon Mura. Murari means the enemy or destroyer of Mura.But the word Murari has also a vedantic meaning. ‘Mura’ is a verbal root in Sanskrit meaning ‘to cover’. We are all covered by ignorance of our real nature and so we think of ourselves as the body, while we are really the Atma. So Mura stands for our ignorance. Krishna destroys our ignorance and gives us enlightenment. So he is the destroyer of Mura, or Murari.Best wishes to all, S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Dear Radheji,The word 'ari' means 'enemy'. It is in the nominative case, i.e., when it is used as the subject in a sentence. In Sanskrit there is a different case for addressing the person. Murari is in the nominative case. But when I address Murari as 'O Murari'. it becomes 'Murare'. Similarly, Hari becomes 'Hare' when we address Hari as 'O Hari'. I suppose this is clear.Best wishes,S.N.Sastri--- On Tue, 2/16/10, Radhe <shaantih wrote:Radhe <shaantihRe: [Guruvayur] The meanings of some wordsguruvayur Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 9:59 PM Dandavat pranams Shri Sastriji!!! I too enjoyed your short note and you particularly caught my attention by the definition for Mura. There is a well known verse (I am not sure what it is called, whether it is a sloka or stands alone or is an excerpt from some work) which is often sung as a chant or bhajan. When I was learning a version of it, I had gone online to find the translation I reproduce below. It used the word Murare to represent the Lord as slayer of the demon Mur and equates Mur with the ego, which, of course, is that which enshrouds us in ignorance! I am wondering if you could address the second half of the word as to its root meanings for our benefit of understanding it better? It seems to alternate interchangeably as Murare or Murari. SHRI KRISHNA GOVINDA HARE MURAREHE NATHA NARAYANA VASUDEVA Krishna (Govinda), slayer of the demon Mur (ego) Oh Lord known as Narayana son of Vasudeva. And here is a mesmerizing youtube video version I had found, for which I do not know the raga used... http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=a9HzIYPWbSs Hari OM!!! In His Service, Radhe ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ The word Murari is an interesting one. It is well known as the name of Krishna and it was given to him because he killed the demon Mura. Murari means the enemy or destroyer of Mura.But the word Murari has also a vedantic meaning. ‘Mura’ is a verbal root in Sanskrit meaning ‘to cover’. We are all covered by ignorance of our real nature and so we think of ourselves as the body, while we are really the Atma. So Mura stands for our ignorance. Krishna destroys our ignorance and gives us enlightenment. So he is the destroyer of Mura, or Murari.Best wishes to all, S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010  Yes, that is clear. Thank you for elaborating on this :-) Hari OM!!! - Nilakantan sastri guruvayur Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:16 AM Re: [Guruvayur] The meanings of some words Dear Radheji,The word 'ari' means 'enemy'. It is in the nominative case, i.e., when it is used as the subject in a sentence. In Sanskrit there is a different case for addressing the person. Murari is in the nominative case. But when I address Murari as 'O Murari'. it becomes 'Murare'. Similarly, Hari becomes 'Hare' when we address Hari as 'O Hari'. I suppose this is clear.Best wishes,S.N.Sastri--- On Tue, 2/16/10, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Re: [Guruvayur] The meanings of some wordsguruvayur Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 9:59 PM Dandavat pranams Shri Sastriji!!! I too enjoyed your short note and you particularly caught my attention by the definition for Mura. There is a well known verse (I am not sure what it is called, whether it is a sloka or stands alone or is an excerpt from some work) which is often sung as a chant or bhajan. When I was learning a version of it, I had gone online to find the translation I reproduce below. It used the word Murare to represent the Lord as slayer of the demon Mur and equates Mur with the ego, which, of course, is that which enshrouds us in ignorance! I am wondering if you could address the second half of the word as to its root meanings for our benefit of understanding it better? It seems to alternate interchangeably as Murare or Murari. SHRI KRISHNA GOVINDA HARE MURAREHE NATHA NARAYANA VASUDEVA Krishna (Govinda), slayer of the demon Mur (ego) Oh Lord known as Narayana son of Vasudeva. And here is a mesmerizing youtube video version I had found, for which I do not know the raga used... http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=a9HzIYPWbSs Hari OM!!! In His Service, Radhe ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ The word Murari is an interesting one. It is well known as the name of Krishna and it was given to him because he killed the demon Mura. Murari means the enemy or destroyer of Mura.But the word Murari has also a vedantic meaning. ‘Mura’ is a verbal root in Sanskrit meaning ‘to cover’. We are all covered by ignorance of our real nature and so we think of ourselves as the body, while we are really the Atma. So Mura stands for our ignorance. Krishna destroys our ignorance and gives us enlightenment. So he is the destroyer of Mura, or Murari.Best wishes to all, S.N.Sastri Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2691 - Release 02/16/10 07:35:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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