Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Guruvayoorappa. Punyathman, The question is when is Vishu 2010. I must say at the outset, that as almost always, it is a question of dispute and the dispute is really because there is no proper unification of Panchangas. Different sates adopt different kinds of Panchangas; not to speak of various Districts within each state. We are spending crores of Rupees for sending Rockets, but we have no money to spend for unification of Panchangas. Sorry, I am not to blame others, but I believe that this issue can be properly solved only when Astronomers and Astrologers come to a table, do deep and creative deliberations and take scientific decisions. We have to celebrate Vishu, irrespective of the fact that any such thing as above, occur or not. Coming to our subject in short,  ‘Vishuval Punaykalam’or Vishu, is the time of transit of Sun from Meenam Rasi to Medam Rasi. This time,( ‘2010 Vishu’-on 1185 Medamasam 1/ 14th April 2010), according to Kerala Paksha, the Sun enters Meda Rasi at 6. 58 AM on 14th April 2010. This is called ‘Mesha Sankramam’ or ‘Mesha Sankranthi’. The Vishu celebrations are supposed to begin with the ‘Vishukkani’ and then ‘Vishukkaineettam’ etc. It is the first auspicious thing that takes place on that day, very early in the morning, say at the Brahma Muhurtham, or ideally between 4 AM and 6 AM. But, it is necessary that the Sun should be transited to Medam Rasi, as otherwise, it is not Vishu. So, I would humbly say that on April 14th, 2010, this time, the Sun comes to Medam Rasi only after 6. 58 AM. So, we have to celebrate Vishu, this time, only on 15th April 2010, when the Sun is in the Medam Rasi. Now I think the doubt is almost clear. Padaravindame Saranam Guruvayoorappa Saranam, With Respectful Pranams, 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan http://www.mprnair.com/ http://www.mprnair.blogspot.com/ Phone: 281 573 8087;    Cell: 281 948 9338, Fax: 1425 660 1429. Kindly Visit: www.godivinity. org. www.namadwaar. org. http://guruandnamakirtan.blogspot.com/ guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of Narayanan S nair Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 PM guruvayur Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Namaskaram Dear Mr Radhakrishnan Nair, Can I check when is Vishu for 2010 . My family in Singapore we are confused a some told us that it falls om the 14/4 and some says that it is on the 15/4/2010 Greatly appreciate if you can enlighten me please . I also take this opportunity you,your family and all our Guruvayoor Members A Happy Vishu Festival . Thanks & Best Regards Narayanan S Nair mprnair <nairradhakrishnan guruvayur Friday, 26 March 2010 05:07:51 RE: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Gurvayoorappa. Sree Maha Punyathman Chandraji. You are rich in Humorous Wisdom too. With Respectful Pranams, Padaravindame Saranam, Gurvayoorappa Saranam, 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com guruvayur@grou ps.com [guruvayur] On Behalf Of Chandra Menon Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:07 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Om Namo Narayanaya Dear A. Nair Very true. I have not read Byron but as Sarojaji said, without the presence of a " loving Heart " a house remains as a house but with its presence it becomes a " Home " . Shri MPR Nair-ji Your thought of that OM adds a splendor to HOME. Can we say " Hari Om " instead of " Hurry Home " ? Om Namo Narayanaya Chandrasekharan " live and let live " " They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive " mprnair <nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com> guruvayur@grou ps.com Wed, March 24, 2010 10:17:31 PM RE: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Guruvayoorappa. A Home without ‘heart’ is a House .How beautifully it is said. There is ‘ OM ’in HOME; it is not in HOUSE. Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam. mpr 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, guruvayur@grou ps.com [guruvayur] On Behalf Of A Nair Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:22 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Hari-Om A house is entirely different from a home. A home is where a person/persons live and spend time with family sharing love, grief, suffering and joy ,raise children and grow old gracefully, eat, drink and entertain , whereas a house is just a physical structure devoid of any human activity. A home can be a house but a house becomes a home only if a person makes it his/her home. One may have his ancestral home ,still he may choose to have a second home. near or far at home or wy from home . A person's birth place is also his home, hence the saying, He is home-bound. Home is one's own dwelling place; the HOUSE in which he lives with his family, the habitual abode of one's family.All other places one choose to live are only temporary homes. When we leave this world we cannot say we are going to our permanent home because we do not know for sure where we will be headed - Heaven ? Hell ? or some other place or nowhere . Byron once said : He entered his house ---his home no more, for without hearts , there is no HOME. In short, Home is where the hearts are. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair guruvayur@grou ps.com, Chandra Menon <chandrasmenon2002@ ...> wrote: > > Om Namo Narayanaya > This thought came up today. What is the difference between a " Home " and a " House " ? > To me a Home is where all inhabitants live in peace, with love and all live a harmonious life, where as in a House people share a place to live or to conduct a business. A nursing " home " is so called because the care extended to the inhabitants only. What we see in " Parliament House " need no explanation. > This is my personal experience that is a fact, very true and nothing but " the truth. " > My Father asked my mother (as narrated by her to me when she was alive) " Let us go to our permanent home " prior to his demise. He left this world and his physical body on 4Jan 1988. > What is a " permanent " home? When I was young, I had a " Permanent " home and address, but that is no more. As a youth I had so many addresses but they are all gone. We had a home (rather a flat) address in Ghatkopar, that too is not " ours " now. While in Muscat, I had a " home " or rather a " house " , that was rented but the " postal mails " came to our company address. I am not sure if they have introduced " home delivery " now. Here in USA I have no home in my name, but we have " 3 homes " where we are welcome any time and we are travelers. When this journey ends, I hope I will find my " home " or " permanent HOME " . > Om Namo Narayanaya > Chandrasekharan > > " live and let live " > " They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive " > New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Is it the same throughout the world including USA-15/004/2010?Narayana Guruvayurappa SaranamV.V.Subramanian,Apt.3S 475 Main Street,New York NY10044.Cell Phone No.603 236 1162.(Till 30 March 2010) --- On Fri, 26/3/10, mprnair <nairradhakrishnan wrote: mprnair <nairradhakrishnan[Guruvayur] RE: When is Vishuguruvayur Date: Friday, 26 March, 2010, 10:28 PM Guruvayoorappa. Punyathman, The question is when is Vishu 2010. I must say at the outset, that as almost always, it is a question of dispute and the dispute is really because there is no proper unification of Panchangas. Different sates adopt different kinds of Panchangas; not to speak of various Districts within each state. We are spending crores of Rupees for sending Rockets, but we have no money to spend for unification of Panchangas. Sorry, I am not to blame others, but I believe that this issue can be properly solved only when Astronomers and Astrologers come to a table, do deep and creative deliberations and take scientific decisions. We have to celebrate Vishu, irrespective of the fact that any such thing as above, occur or not. Coming to our subject in short, ‘Vishuval Punaykalam’or Vishu, is the time of transit of Sun from Meenam Rasi to Medam Rasi. This time,( ‘2010 Vishu’-on 1185 Medamasam 1/ 14th April 2010), according to Kerala Paksha, the Sun enters Meda Rasi at 6. 58 AM on 14th April 2010. This is called ‘Mesha Sankramam’ or ‘Mesha Sankranthi’. The Vishu celebrations are supposed to begin with the ‘Vishukkani’ and then ‘Vishukkaineettam’ etc. It is the first auspicious thing that takes place on that day, very early in the morning, say at the Brahma Muhurtham, or ideally between 4 AM and 6 AM. But, it is necessary that the Sun should be transited to Medam Rasi, as otherwise, it is not Vishu. So, I would humbly say that on April 14th, 2010, this time, the Sun comes to Medam Rasi only after 6. 58 AM. So, we have to celebrate Vishu, this time, only on 15th April 2010, when the Sun is in the Medam Rasi. Now I think the doubt is almost clear. Padaravindame Saranam Guruvayoorappa Saranam, With Respectful Pranams, 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com http://www.mprnair. com/ http://www.mprnair. blogspot. com/ Phone: 281 573 8087; Cell: 281 948 9338, Fax: 1425 660 1429. Kindly Visit: www.godivinity. org. www.namadwaar. org. http://guruandnamak irtan.blogspot. com/ guruvayur@grou ps.com [guruvayur] On Behalf Of Narayanan S nair Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Namaskaram Dear Mr Radhakrishnan Nair, Can I check when is Vishu for 2010 . My family in Singapore we are confused a some told us that it falls om the 14/4 and some says that it is on the 15/4/2010 Greatly appreciate if you can enlighten me please . I also take this opportunity you,your family and all our Guruvayoor Members A Happy Vishu Festival . Thanks & Best Regards Narayanan S Nair mprnair <nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com> guruvayur@grou ps.com Friday, 26 March 2010 05:07:51 RE: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Gurvayoorappa. Sree Maha Punyathman Chandraji. You are rich in Humorous Wisdom too. With Respectful Pranams, Padaravindame Saranam, Gurvayoorappa Saranam, 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com guruvayur@grou ps.com [guruvayur] On Behalf Of Chandra Menon Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:07 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Om Namo Narayanaya Dear A. Nair Very true. I have not read Byron but as Sarojaji said, without the presence of a "loving Heart" a house remains as a house but with its presence it becomes a "Home". Shri MPR Nair-ji Your thought of that OM adds a splendor to HOME. Can we say "Hari Om" instead of "Hurry Home"? Om Namo Narayanaya Chandrasekharan "live and let liveThey alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive" mprnair <nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com> guruvayur@grou ps.com Wed, March 24, 2010 10:17:31 PM RE: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Guruvayoorappa. A Home without ‘heart’ is a House .How beautifully it is said. There is ‘ OM ’in HOME; it is not in HOUSE. Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam. mpr 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, guruvayur@grou ps.com [guruvayur] On Behalf Of A Nair Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:22 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Hari-Om A house is entirely different from a home. A home is where a person/persons live and spend time with family sharing love, grief, suffering and joy ,raise children and grow old gracefully, eat, drink and entertain , whereas a house is just a physical structure devoid of any human activity. A home can be a house but a house becomes a home only if a person makes it his/her home. One may have his ancestral home ,still he may choose to have a second home. near or far at home or wy from home . A person's birth place is also his home, hence the saying, He is home-bound. Home is one's own dwelling place; the HOUSE in which he lives with his family, the habitual abode of one's family.All other places one choose to live are only temporary homes. When we leave this world we cannot say we are going to our permanent home because we do not know for sure where we will be headed - Heaven ? Hell ? or some other place or nowhere . Byron once said : He entered his house ---his home no more, for without hearts , there is no HOME. In short, Home is where the hearts are. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair guruvayur@grou ps.com, Chandra Menon <chandrasmenon2002@ ...> wrote: > > Om Namo Narayanaya > This thought came up today. What is the difference between a "Home" and a "House"? > To me a Home is where all inhabitants live in peace, with love and all live a harmonious life, where as in a House people share a place to live or to conduct a business. A nursing "home" is so called because the care extended to the inhabitants only. What we see in "Parliament House" need no explanation. > This is my personal experience that is a fact, very true and nothing but "the truth." > My Father asked my mother (as narrated by her to me when she was alive) "Let us go to our permanent home" prior to his demise. He left this world and his physical body on 4Jan 1988. > What is a "permanent" home? When I was young, I had a "Permanent" home and address, but that is no more. As a youth I had so many addresses but they are all gone. We had a home (rather a flat) address in Ghatkopar, that too is not "ours" now. While in Muscat, I had a "home" or rather a "house", that was rented but the "postal mails" came to our company address. I am not sure if they have introduced "home delivery" now. Here in USA I have no home in my name, but we have "3 homes" where we are welcome any time and we are travelers. When this journey ends, I hope I will find my "home" or "permanent HOME". > Om Namo Narayanaya > Chandrasekharan > > "live and let live" > "They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive" > New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Fortunately the Sun is in Mesha Rasi at that time in U S A also, and hence we can celebrate Vishu in the early morning of 15th April 2010 in USA. 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan http://www.mprnair.com/ http://www.mprnair.blogspot.com/ Phone: 281 573 8087;    Cell: 281 948 9338, Fax: 1425 660 1429. Kindly Visit: www.godivinity. org. www.namadwaar. org. http://guruandnamakirtan.blogspot.com/ guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of Subramanian Vydianathan Friday, March 26, 2010 2:25 PM guruvayur ; mprnair Re: [Guruvayur] RE: When is Vishu Is it the same throughout the world including USA-15/004/2010? Narayana Guruvayurappa Saranam V.V.Subramanian, Apt.3S 475 Main Street, New York NY10044. Cell Phone No.603 236 1162. (Till 30 March 2010) --- On Fri, 26/3/10, mprnair <nairradhakrishnan wrote: mprnair <nairradhakrishnan [Guruvayur] RE: When is Vishu guruvayur Friday, 26 March, 2010, 10:28 PM Guruvayoorappa. Punyathman, The question is when is Vishu 2010. I must say at the outset, that as almost always, it is a question of dispute and the dispute is really because there is no proper unification of Panchangas. Different sates adopt different kinds of Panchangas; not to speak of various Districts within each state. We are spending crores of Rupees for sending Rockets, but we have no money to spend for unification of Panchangas. Sorry, I am not to blame others, but I believe that this issue can be properly solved only when Astronomers and Astrologers come to a table, do deep and creative deliberations and take scientific decisions. We have to celebrate Vishu, irrespective of the fact that any such thing as above, occur or not. Coming to our subject in short, ‘Vishuval Punaykalam’or Vishu, is the time of transit of Sun from Meenam Rasi to Medam Rasi. This time,( ‘2010 Vishu’-on 1185 Medamasam 1/ 14th April 2010), according to Kerala Paksha, the Sun enters Meda Rasi at 6. 58 AM on 14th April 2010. This is called ‘Mesha Sankramam’ or ‘Mesha Sankranthi’. The Vishu celebrations are supposed to begin with the ‘Vishukkani’ and then ‘Vishukkaineettam’ etc. It is the first auspicious thing that takes place on that day, very early in the morning, say at the Brahma Muhurtham, or ideally between 4 AM and 6 AM. But, it is necessary that the Sun should be transited to Medam Rasi, as otherwise, it is not Vishu. So, I would humbly say that on April 14th, 2010, this time, the Sun comes to Medam Rasi only after 6. 58 AM. So, we have to celebrate Vishu, this time, only on 15th April 2010, when the Sun is in the Medam Rasi. Now I think the doubt is almost clear. Padaravindame Saranam Guruvayoorappa Saranam, With Respectful Pranams, 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com http://www.mprnair. com/ http://www.mprnair. blogspot. com/ Phone: 281 573 8087; Cell: 281 948 9338, Fax: 1425 660 1429. Kindly Visit: www.godivinity. org. www.namadwaar. org. http://guruandnamak irtan.blogspot. com/ guruvayur@grou ps.com [guruvayur] On Behalf Of Narayanan S nair Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Namaskaram Dear Mr Radhakrishnan Nair, Can I check when is Vishu for 2010 . My family in Singapore we are confused a some told us that it falls om the 14/4 and some says that it is on the 15/4/2010 Greatly appreciate if you can enlighten me please . I also take this opportunity you,your family and all our Guruvayoor Members A Happy Vishu Festival . Thanks & Best Regards Narayanan S Nair mprnair <nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com> guruvayur@grou ps.com Friday, 26 March 2010 05:07:51 RE: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Gurvayoorappa. Sree Maha Punyathman Chandraji. You are rich in Humorous Wisdom too. With Respectful Pranams, Padaravindame Saranam, Gurvayoorappa Saranam, 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com guruvayur@grou ps.com [guruvayur] On Behalf Of Chandra Menon Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:07 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com Re: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Om Namo Narayanaya Dear A. Nair Very true. I have not read Byron but as Sarojaji said, without the presence of a " loving Heart " a house remains as a house but with its presence it becomes a " Home " . Shri MPR Nair-ji Your thought of that OM adds a splendor to HOME. Can we say " Hari Om " instead of " Hurry Home " ? Om Namo Narayanaya Chandrasekharan " live and let live " " They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive " mprnair <nairradhakrishnan@ hotmail.com> guruvayur@grou ps.com Wed, March 24, 2010 10:17:31 PM RE: [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Guruvayoorappa. A Home without ‘heart’ is a House .How beautifully it is said. There is ‘ OM ’in HOME; it is not in HOUSE. Padaravindame Saranam, Guruvayoorappa Saranam. mpr 'Sarvesham Shanthir Bhavathu' Thank you, Have a great day, Regards, mprnair, guruvayur@grou ps.com [guruvayur@ . com] On Behalf Of A Nair Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:22 PM guruvayur@grou ps.com [Guruvayur] Re: Home and a House Hari-Om A house is entirely different from a home. A home is where a person/persons live and spend time with family sharing love, grief, suffering and joy ,raise children and grow old gracefully, eat, drink and entertain , whereas a house is just a physical structure devoid of any human activity. A home can be a house but a house becomes a home only if a person makes it his/her home. One may have his ancestral home ,still he may choose to have a second home. near or far at home or wy from home . A person's birth place is also his home, hence the saying, He is home-bound. Home is one's own dwelling place; the HOUSE in which he lives with his family, the habitual abode of one's family.All other places one choose to live are only temporary homes. When we leave this world we cannot say we are going to our permanent home because we do not know for sure where we will be headed - Heaven ? Hell ? or some other place or nowhere . Byron once said : He entered his house ---his home no more, for without hearts , there is no HOME. In short, Home is where the hearts are. jai shree krishna ! Achuthan Nair guruvayur@grou ps.com, Chandra Menon <chandrasmenon2002@ ...> wrote: > > Om Namo Narayanaya > This thought came up today. What is the difference between a " Home " and a " House " ? > To me a Home is where all inhabitants live in peace, with love and all live a harmonious life, where as in a House people share a place to live or to conduct a business. A nursing " home " is so called because the care extended to the inhabitants only. What we see in " Parliament House " need no explanation. > This is my personal experience that is a fact, very true and nothing but " the truth. " > My Father asked my mother (as narrated by her to me when she was alive) " Let us go to our permanent home " prior to his demise. He left this world and his physical body on 4Jan 1988. > What is a " permanent " home? When I was young, I had a " Permanent " home and address, but that is no more. As a youth I had so many addresses but they are all gone. We had a home (rather a flat) address in Ghatkopar, that too is not " ours " now. While in Muscat, I had a " home " or rather a " house " , that was rented but the " postal mails " came to our company address. I am not sure if they have introduced " home delivery " now. Here in USA I have no home in my name, but we have " 3 homes " where we are welcome any time and we are travelers. When this journey ends, I hope I will find my " home " or " permanent HOME " . > Om Namo Narayanaya > Chandrasekharan > > " live and let live " > " They alone live who live for others, rest are more dead than alive " > New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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