Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Divine Suhasji: Ram! Ram! " Bhagaban " means who is or has the source of all. In Srimad Bhagavad Gita it is said SriBhagavAnuvAcha or Thus says the Lord. It is not said that SriKrishna UvAcha. The reason being When SriKrishna was in Yoga while teaching Arjuna the GitA, He was speaking from the highest, the source of all. Bhagavan has all. There is nothing which is not in His control. Thank you! humble regards -m > " Asha Suhas Gogate " <suhasha > > > FAQ >27 Jan 2006 15:28:37 -0000 > > Respected Swamiji, ram , ram > >I have always thought about the word. “BHAGWAN”. It is used so often in >daily life. >There are similar words, which are understood with ease. e.g. Balwan; >Medhawan; Dhanwan, Vidyawan etc >But the word Bhagwan seems to have a peculiar meaning. Kindly explain what >“Bhag’ stands for .. > Looking forward to your blessings Suhas Gogate > > > > >On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 Manoj Panda wrote : > >Divine One: > >************ > > >1) What does Swamiji mean by " no insistence " of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the " happenings " (hone mein) only? or also in > > >the " act of doing " (karnemein)? > >**************** > >Accept the things as it comes (both good and bad) without being >perturbed. > >Be a witness, sAkhshI bhAva. > > > >*********** > > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and > > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't > > >that make one vulnerable? > >******** > >Any " Agraha " is rooted in desire and that is the cause of suffering. >However > >there is one activity called " nisskAma karma " or " kAmanA rahit kArya " . >That > >is equivalent of " padmapatramivAmvasA " or lotus leaf in water where water > >can't touch the lotus leaf even though it is staying in water all the >time. > > > >Next question is how can it be achieved? By being " sAkssI " or witness to >all > >events. One has to be convinced of who is the real Doer. " Ishwara sarva > >bhUtAnAm hruddesherjuna tissThati, bhrAmayan sarva bhUtAni yantrArUDhAni > >mAyayA " (Gita, Ch 18, verse 61). Lord is at the core, the real Doer. mAyA >or > >the illusive machine covers that Reality. > >********** > > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - " No insistence " > > >(koi aagraha nahi) and > > > >********** > >Many places. " nirAshI nirmama bhUtwA, yudhyaswa bigatajwara " (3/30) > > " nirAshIryatachittAtmA, tyaktasarvamparigraha " (4/21), " ekAkI yata > >chittAtmA, nirAshIraparigrahah " (6/10). The whole Gita talks about this. > >Please revert the word " GItA " . It becomes " tAGI " . " tyAGa " or renunciation >is > >the key of " GitA " . How one can do it in living in the world? That's what > >Lord Krishna showed by living His life like that. > > > >************ > > > >Experiencing the absolute calmness in intense activity or otherwise is >true > > " sAkhssI bhAva " in the realm of relativity. > > > >humble regards > >-m > > > > > > >raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu > > > > > > > > >Re: QS: No Insistence (koyi aagraha nahi) > > >Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:59:45 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > >mdoshi2 <mdoshi2 wrote: Shree Hari > > >Ram Ram > > > > > >In recent daily messages on Desire (Kamanaa), it was stated: > > > > > > " Wishing that things happen a certain way to your liking and not > > >another way to your disliking, these subtle desires - likes and > > >dislikes, come filled with sorrow. " > > > " A spiritual aspirant must neither wish to fulfill worldly desires, > > >nor despair the lack of fulfillment of spiritual aspirations. " > > > " One must have no insistence (aagraha) of any sort. > > >Questions: > > >1) What does Swamiji mean by " no insistence " of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the " happenings " (hone mein) only? or also in > > >the " act of doing " (karnemein)? > > > > > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and > > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't > > >that make one vulnerable? > > > > > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - " No insistence " > > >(koi aagraha nahi) and > > > > > >4) Has Pujya Swamiji elaborated on this anywhere? > > > > > >I pray and seek your guidance. > > > > > >With devotion at the lotus feet of Lord Krishna, > > >A Sadhak > > > > > > > > >Priy Sadhak > > > My humble answer to ur Q is > > > 1.Koi aagrah Nahi means in both.Actually it needs some sort of > > >understanding. Imagine we all are like tiny parts of great machine >called > > >SRISHTI.eVERY PART HAS PARTICULAR FUNCTION TO PERFORM.you do aagrah or >not, > > >it does not matter much to the god.The KARTA of the universe.we can >humbly > > >love to be ansh of great lord.as he said " MAMEVANSHO JEEVLOKE JEEV >BHOOT > > >SANATAN " . > > > sO THINK WHATS THE VALUE OF OUR Aagrah in compare to gods will? If u > > >want to do Agrah there is one place for u. Aagrah stongly for gods > > >love.cause thats the only thing valuable in the universe. > > > 2.There should not be ANY aagrah.thats the first thing to >clarify.OK. > > > When u work on the wavelength of the GOD How can u be >vulnerable.Anybody > > >trying to make U vulnerable will be taken good care by the GOD. U need >not > > >to worry. > > > Infact worrying is also aagrah. > > > 3.Geeta ji says " SARVA SANKALP PARITYAGI YOGARUDASYA TADOCHYATE. " > > > 4.Please read SADHAK SANJIVANI GEETA 18/66.Swamiji has said a lot in > > >datails about this. > > > a lot of love. Pl keep in touch.shre ur experiences. > > > Raja. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Divine Soul, Pranam. Additional information to what Manojbaba is explaining here. Just like Dhanwan means the owner of dhan, Vidhyawan owns the Vidhya, Bhagwan is the owner of aishwarya, that includes aishwarya (luminous aspect), virya (strength), yash (glory), shree (wealth), knowledge, and vairaagya (detachment). That's why He is the controller of all, truly the omnipotent - 'sarvashaktimaan', aspect. Bhagwan is used for Vishnu or Shiva to indicate the luminous/illumined/glorious ones etc. It is also used to address those who are highly evolved like our siants/sages/rishies were/are also addressed as Bhagwan, e.g., bhagwan kashyap. It is also used to address someone with deep respect - 'maanaarth', or to truly address - in respect - the divine aspect of those who are highly evolved like shri Raman Maharshi has been addressed as bhagwan. That's why in Gitaji, it is said Bhagwan Uvaach - the owner and thus the controller of all said..., not Krishna born in human form is saying anything, but the one who is speaking, is beyond the name and form. Hope this additional information helps... Kind regards, Always at Thy Lotus Feet On Behalf Of Manoj Panda Monday, January 30, 2006 12:33 AM RE: FAQ Divine Suhasji: Ram! Ram! " Bhagaban " means who is or has the source of all. In Srimad Bhagavad Gita it is said SriBhagavAnuvAcha or Thus says the Lord. It is not said that SriKrishna UvAcha. The reason being When SriKrishna was in Yoga while teaching Arjuna the GitA, He was speaking from the highest, the source of all. Bhagavan has all. There is nothing which is not in His control. Thank you! humble regards -m > " Asha Suhas Gogate " <suhasha > > > FAQ >27 Jan 2006 15:28:37 -0000 > > Respected Swamiji, ram , ram > >I have always thought about the word. " BHAGWAN " . It is used so often in >daily life. >There are similar words, which are understood with ease. e.g. Balwan; >Medhawan; Dhanwan, Vidyawan etc But the word Bhagwan seems to have a >peculiar meaning. Kindly explain what " Bhag' stands for .. > Looking forward to your blessings Suhas Gogate > > > > >On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 Manoj Panda wrote : > >Divine One: > >************ > > >1) What does Swamiji mean by " no insistence " of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the " happenings " (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the " act of doing " (karnemein)? > >**************** > >Accept the things as it comes (both good and bad) without being >perturbed. > >Be a witness, sAkhshI bhAva. > > > >*********** > > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and > > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't > > >that make one vulnerable? > >******** > >Any " Agraha " is rooted in desire and that is the cause of suffering. >However > >there is one activity called " nisskAma karma " or " kAmanA rahit kArya " . >That > >is equivalent of " padmapatramivAmvasA " or lotus leaf in water where > >water can't touch the lotus leaf even though it is staying in water > >all the >time. > > > >Next question is how can it be achieved? By being " sAkssI " or witness > >to >all > >events. One has to be convinced of who is the real Doer. " Ishwara > >sarva bhUtAnAm hruddesherjuna tissThati, bhrAmayan sarva bhUtAni > >yantrArUDhAni mAyayA " (Gita, Ch 18, verse 61). Lord is at the core, > >the real Doer. mAyA >or > >the illusive machine covers that Reality. > >********** > > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - " No insistence " > > >(koi aagraha nahi) and > > > >********** > >Many places. " nirAshI nirmama bhUtwA, yudhyaswa bigatajwara " (3/30) > > " nirAshIryatachittAtmA, tyaktasarvamparigraha " (4/21), " ekAkI yata > >chittAtmA, nirAshIraparigrahah " (6/10). The whole Gita talks about this. > >Please revert the word " GItA " . It becomes " tAGI " . " tyAGa " or > >renunciation >is > >the key of " GitA " . How one can do it in living in the world? That's > >what Lord Krishna showed by living His life like that. > > > >************ > > > >Experiencing the absolute calmness in intense activity or otherwise > >is >true > > " sAkhssI bhAva " in the realm of relativity. > > > >humble regards > >-m > > > > > > >raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu > > > > > > > > >Re: QS: No Insistence (koyi aagraha nahi) > > >Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:59:45 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > >mdoshi2 <mdoshi2 wrote: Shree Hari > > >Ram Ram > > > > > >In recent daily messages on Desire (Kamanaa), it was stated: > > > > > > " Wishing that things happen a certain way to your liking and not > > >another way to your disliking, these subtle desires - likes and > > >dislikes, come filled with sorrow. " > > > " A spiritual aspirant must neither wish to fulfill worldly desires, > > >nor despair the lack of fulfillment of spiritual aspirations. " > > > " One must have no insistence (aagraha) of any sort. > > >Questions: > > >1) What does Swamiji mean by " no insistence " of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the " happenings " (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the " act of doing " (karnemein)? > > > > > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and > > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't > > >that make one vulnerable? > > > > > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - " No insistence " > > >(koi aagraha nahi) and > > > > > >4) Has Pujya Swamiji elaborated on this anywhere? > > > > > >I pray and seek your guidance. > > > > > >With devotion at the lotus feet of Lord Krishna, A Sadhak > > > > > > > > >Priy Sadhak > > > My humble answer to ur Q is > > > 1.Koi aagrah Nahi means in both.Actually it needs some sort of > > >understanding. Imagine we all are like tiny parts of great machine >called > > >SRISHTI.eVERY PART HAS PARTICULAR FUNCTION TO PERFORM.you do aagrah > > >or >not, > > >it does not matter much to the god.The KARTA of the universe.we can >humbly > > >love to be ansh of great lord.as he said " MAMEVANSHO JEEVLOKE JEEV >BHOOT > > >SANATAN " . > > > sO THINK WHATS THE VALUE OF OUR Aagrah in compare to gods will? > > >If u want to do Agrah there is one place for u. Aagrah stongly for > > >gods love.cause thats the only thing valuable in the universe. > > > 2.There should not be ANY aagrah.thats the first thing to >clarify.OK. > > > When u work on the wavelength of the GOD How can u be >vulnerable.Anybody > > >trying to make U vulnerable will be taken good care by the GOD. U > > >need >not > > >to worry. > > > Infact worrying is also aagrah. > > > 3.Geeta ji says " SARVA SANKALP PARITYAGI YOGARUDASYA TADOCHYATE. " > > > 4.Please read SADHAK SANJIVANI GEETA 18/66.Swamiji has said a > > >lot in datails about this. > > > a lot of love. Pl keep in touch.shre ur experiences. > > > Raja. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 priy sadhika manjula, u have delivered good explanation of BHAGWAN. I admire it. May u always keep good understanding with god. One thing i want to pray, u said the god spoke not krishna. I say god is in every one & everyone speak selflessly is actually god speaking not that human. even ur explaining god also not spoken by u but god himself. I believe it & dont just say. Is that ok. or am i wrong.then pl tell me wats wrong. in lotus feet Raja."Patel, Manjula" <manjula.patel wrote: Divine Soul,Pranam.Additional information to what Manojbaba is explaining here.Just like Dhanwan means the owner of dhan, Vidhyawan owns the Vidhya, Bhagwan is the owner of aishwarya, that includes aishwarya (luminous aspect), virya (strength), yash (glory), shree (wealth), knowledge, and vairaagya (detachment). That's why He is the controller of all, truly the omnipotent - 'sarvashaktimaan', aspect. Bhagwan is used for Vishnu or Shiva to indicate the luminous/illumined/glorious ones etc. It is also used to address those who are highly evolved like our siants/sages/rishies were/are also addressed as Bhagwan, e.g., bhagwan kashyap. It is also used to address someone with deep respect - 'maanaarth', or to truly address - in respect - the divine aspect of those who are highly evolved like shri Raman Maharshi has been addressed as bhagwan.That's why in Gitaji, it is said Bhagwan Uvaach - the owner and thus the controller of all said..., not Krishna born in human form is saying anything, but the one who is speaking, is beyond the name and form.Hope this additional information helps...Kind regards,Always at Thy Lotus Feet On Behalf Of Manoj PandaMonday, January 30, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: RE: FAQDivine Suhasji:Ram! Ram!"Bhagaban" means who is or has the source of all.In Srimad Bhagavad Gita it is said SriBhagavAnuvAcha or Thus says the Lord. It is not said that SriKrishna UvAcha. The reason being When SriKrishna was in Yoga while teaching Arjuna the GitA, He was speaking from the highest, the source of all.Bhagavan has all. There is nothing which is not in His control.Thank you!humble regards-m>"Asha Suhas Gogate" <suhasha> > > FAQ>27 Jan 2006 15:28:37 -0000>> Respected Swamiji, ram , ram>>I have always thought about the word. "BHAGWAN". It is used so often in >daily life.>There are similar words, which are understood with ease. e.g. Balwan; >Medhawan; Dhanwan, Vidyawan etc But the word Bhagwan seems to have a >peculiar meaning. Kindly explain what "Bhag' stands for ..> Looking forward to your blessings Suhas Gogate>>>>>On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 Manoj Panda wrote :> >Divine One:> >************> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> >****************> >Accept the things as it comes (both good and bad) without being>perturbed.> >Be a witness, sAkhshI bhAva.> >> >***********> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> >********> >Any "Agraha" is rooted in desire and that is the cause of suffering. >However> >there is one activity called "nisskAma karma" or "kAmanA rahit kArya". >That> >is equivalent of "padmapatramivAmvasA" or lotus leaf in water where > >water can't touch the lotus leaf even though it is staying in water > >all the>time.> >> >Next question is how can it be achieved? By being "sAkssI" or witness > >to>all> >events. One has to be convinced of who is the real Doer. "Ishwara > >sarva bhUtAnAm hruddesherjuna tissThati, bhrAmayan sarva bhUtAni > >yantrArUDhAni mAyayA" (Gita, Ch 18, verse 61). Lord is at the core, > >the real Doer. mAyA>or> >the illusive machine covers that Reality.> >**********> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> >> >**********> >Many places. "nirAshI nirmama bhUtwA, yudhyaswa bigatajwara" (3/30) > >"nirAshIryatachittAtmA, tyaktasarvamparigraha" (4/21), "ekAkI yata > >chittAtmA, nirAshIraparigrahah" (6/10). The whole Gita talks about this.> >Please revert the word "GItA". It becomes "tAGI". "tyAGa" or > >renunciation>is> >the key of "GitA". How one can do it in living in the world? That's > >what Lord Krishna showed by living His life like that.> >> >************> >> >Experiencing the absolute calmness in intense activity or otherwise > >is>true> >"sAkhssI bhAva" in the realm of relativity.> >> >humble regards> >-m> >> >> > >raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu> > > > > > > > >Re: QS: No Insistence (koyi aagraha nahi)> > >Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:59:45 -0800 (PST)> > >> > >> > >> > >mdoshi2 <mdoshi2 wrote: Shree Hari> > >Ram Ram> > >> > >In recent daily messages on Desire (Kamanaa), it was stated:> > >> > >"Wishing that things happen a certain way to your liking and not > > >another way to your disliking, these subtle desires - likes and > > >dislikes, come filled with sorrow."> > >"A spiritual aspirant must neither wish to fulfill worldly desires, > > >nor despair the lack of fulfillment of spiritual aspirations."> > >"One must have no insistence (aagraha) of any sort.> > >Questions:> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> > >> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> > >> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> > >> > >4) Has Pujya Swamiji elaborated on this anywhere?> > >> > >I pray and seek your guidance.> > >> > >With devotion at the lotus feet of Lord Krishna, A Sadhak> > >> > >> > >Priy Sadhak> > > My humble answer to ur Q is> > > 1.Koi aagrah Nahi means in both.Actually it needs some sort of > > >understanding. Imagine we all are like tiny parts of great machine>called> > >SRISHTI.eVERY PART HAS PARTICULAR FUNCTION TO PERFORM.you do aagrah > > >or>not,> > >it does not matter much to the god.The KARTA of the universe.we can>humbly> > >love to be ansh of great lord.as he said "MAMEVANSHO JEEVLOKE JEEV>BHOOT> > >SANATAN".> > > sO THINK WHATS THE VALUE OF OUR Aagrah in compare to gods will? > > >If u want to do Agrah there is one place for u. Aagrah stongly for > > >gods love.cause thats the only thing valuable in the universe.> > > 2.There should not be ANY aagrah.thats the first thing to>clarify.OK.> > > When u work on the wavelength of the GOD How can u be>vulnerable.Anybody> > >trying to make U vulnerable will be taken good care by the GOD. U > > >need>not> > >to worry.> > > Infact worrying is also aagrah.> > > 3.Geeta ji says " SARVA SANKALP PARITYAGI YOGARUDASYA TADOCHYATE. "> > > 4.Please read SADHAK SANJIVANI GEETA 18/66.Swamiji has said a > > >lot in datails about this.> > > a lot of love. Pl keep in touch.shre ur experiences.> > > Raja.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Loving Divine, Pranam. Yes, you are absolutely absolutely correct. Whether one knows it or not, whether one believes it or not, whether one accepts it or not, it is always always God who is behind all of our action. When I mentioned Krishna in human form - it is more to say not the form of ego - the blinding aspect or the limited self, but the one who has attained the limitless within is speaking. Thank you for bringing it up. Kind regards, Always in service at Thy Holy Feet On Behalf Of raja gurdasaniThursday, February 02, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: RE: FAQ priy sadhika manjula, u have delivered good explanation of BHAGWAN. I admire it. May u always keep good understanding with god. One thing i want to pray, u said the god spoke not krishna. I say god is in every one & everyone speak selflessly is actually god speaking not that human. even ur explaining god also not spoken by u but god himself. I believe it & dont just say. Is that ok. or am i wrong.then pl tell me wats wrong. in lotus feet Raja."Patel, Manjula" <manjula.patel wrote: Divine Soul,Pranam.Additional information to what Manojbaba is explaining here.Just like Dhanwan means the owner of dhan, Vidhyawan owns the Vidhya, Bhagwan is the owner of aishwarya, that includes aishw! arya (luminous aspect), virya (strength), yash (glory), shree (wealth), knowledge, and vairaagya (detachment). That's why He is the controller of all, truly the omnipotent - 'sarvashaktimaan', aspect. Bhagwan is used for Vishnu or Shiva to indicate the luminous/illumined/glorious ones etc. It is also used to address those who are highly evolved like our siants/sages/rishies were/are also addressed as Bhagwan, e.g., bhagwan kashyap. It is also used to address someone with deep respect - 'maanaarth', or to truly address - in respect - the divine aspect of those who are highly evolved like shri Raman Maharshi has been addressed as bhagwan.That's why in Gitaji, it is said Bhagwan Uvaach - the owner and thus the controller of all said..., not Krishna born in human form is saying anything, but the one who is speaking, is beyond the name and form.Hope this additional information helps...Kind regards,Always at Thy Lotus Feet On Behalf Of Manoj PandaMonday, January 30, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: RE: FAQDivine Suhasji:Ram! Ram!"Bhagaban" means who is or has the source of all.In Srimad Bhagavad Gita it is said SriBhagavAnuvAcha or Thus says the Lord. It is not said that SriKrishna UvAcha. The reason being When SriKrishna was in Yoga while teaching Arjuna the GitA, He was speaking from the highest, the source of all.Bhagavan has all. There is nothing which is not in His control.Thank you!humble regards-m>"Asha Suhas Gogate" <suhasha> > > FAQ>27 Jan 2006 15:28:37 -0000>> Respected Swamiji, & ! nbsp; ram , ram>>I have always thought about the word. "BHAGWAN". It is used so often in >daily life.>There are similar words, which are understood with ease. e.g. Balwan; >Medhawan; Dhanwan, Vidyawan etc But the word Bhagwan seems to have a >peculiar meaning. Kindly explain what "Bhag' stands for ..> Looking forward to your blessings Suhas Gogate>>>>>On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 Manoj Panda wrote :> >Divine One:> >************> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> >****************> >Accept the things as it comes (both good and bad) without being>perturbed.> >Be a witness, sAkhshI bhAva.> >> >***********> > >2) & n! bsp; Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> >********> >Any "Agraha" is rooted in desire and that is the cause of suffering. >However> >there is one activity called "nisskAma karma" or "kAmanA rahit kArya". >That> >is equivalent of "padmapatramivAmvasA" or lotus leaf in water where > >water can't touch the lotus leaf even though it is staying in water > >all the>time.> >> >Next question is how can it be achieved? By being "sAkssI" or witness > >to>all> >events. One has to be convinced of who is the real Doer. "Ishwara > >sarva bhUtAnAm hruddesherjuna tissThati, bhrAmayan sarva bhUtAni > >yantrA! rUDhAni mAyayA" (Gita, Ch 18, verse 61). Lord is at the core, > >the real Doer. mAyA>or> >the illusive machine covers that Reality.> >**********> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> >> >**********> >Many places. "nirAshI nirmama bhUtwA, yudhyaswa bigatajwara" (3/30) > >"nirAshIryatachittAtmA, tyaktasarvamparigraha" (4/21), "ekAkI yata > >chittAtmA, nirAshIraparigrahah" (6/10). The whole Gita talks about this.> >Please revert the word "GItA". It becomes "tAGI". "tyAGa" or > >renunciation>is> >the key of "GitA". How one can do it in living in the world? That's > >what Lord Krishna showed by living His life like that.> >> >************> >> >Experiencing the absolute calmness in intense activity or otherwise > >is>true> >"sAkhssI bhAva" in the realm of relativity.> >> >humble regards> >-m> >> >> > >raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu> > > > > > > > >Re: QS: No Insistence (koyi aagraha nahi)> > >Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:59:45 -0800 (PST)> > >> > >> > >> > >mdoshi2 <mdoshi2 wrote: Shree Hari> > >Ram Ram> > >> > >In recent daily messages on Desire (Kamanaa), it was stated:> > >> > >"Wishing that things happen a certain way to your liking and not > > >another way to your disliking, these subtle desires - likes and > > >dislikes, come filled with sorrow."> > & g! t;"A spiritual aspirant must neither wish to fulfill worldly desires, > > >nor despair the lack of fulfillment of spiritual aspirations."> > >"One must have no insistence (aagraha) of any sort.> > >Questions:> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> > >> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> > >> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> > >> > >4! ) Has Pujya Swamiji elaborated on this anywhere?> > >> > >I pray and seek your guidance.> > >> > >With devotion at the lotus feet of Lord Krishna, A Sadhak> > >> > >> > >Priy Sadhak> > > My humble answer to ur Q is> > > 1.Koi aagrah Nahi means in both.Actually it needs some sort of > > >understanding. Imagine we all are like tiny parts of great machine>called> > >SRISHTI.eVERY PART HAS PARTICULAR FUNCTION TO PERFORM.you do aagrah > > >or>not,> > >it does not matter much to the god.The KARTA of the universe.we can>humbly> > >love to be ansh of great lord.as he said "MAMEVANSHO JEEVLOKE JEEV>BHOOT> > >SANATAN".> > > sO THINK WHATS THE VALUE OF OUR Aagrah in compare to gods will? > > >If u want to do Ag! rah there is one place for u. Aagrah stongly for > > >gods love.cause thats the only thing valuable in the universe.> > > 2.There should not be ANY aagrah.thats the first thing to>clarify.OK.> > > When u work on the wavelength of the GOD How can u be>vulnerable.Anybody> > >trying to make U vulnerable will be taken good care by the GOD. U > > >need>not> > >to worry.> > > Infact worrying is also aagrah.> > > 3.Geeta ji says " SARVA SANKALP PARITYAGI YOGARUDASYA TADOCHYATE. "> > > 4.Please read SADHAK SANJIVANI GEETA 18/66.Swamiji has said a > > >lot in datails about this.> > > a lot of love. Pl keep in touch.shre ur experiences.> > > Raja.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 may i add further to this poise thinking of god talking thru human being ,it is not only the selflessness but if it is not mixed with the persons own views or thoughts which has been a problem with hinduism that is why it is so confusing ido not mean to condemn or offend any one i amm expressing my own openion as i see it, do not think god is speeking thru me thanks s.k. raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu Sent: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:01:26 -0800 (PST)RE: FAQ priy sadhika manjula, u have delivered good explanation of BHAGWAN. I admire it. May u always keep good understanding with god. One thing i want to pray, u said the god spoke not krishna. I say god is in every one & everyone speak selflessly is actually god speaking not that human. even ur explaining god also not spoken by u but god himself. I believe it & dont just say. Is that ok. or am i wrong.then pl tell me wats wrong. in lotus feet Raja."Patel, Manjula" <manjula.patel wrote: Divine Soul,Pranam.Additional information to what Manojbaba is explaining here.Just like Dhanwan means the owner of dhan, Vidhyawan owns the Vidhya, Bhagwan is the owner of aishwarya, that includes aishwarya (luminous aspect), virya (strength), yash (glory), shree (wealth), knowledge, and vairaagya (detachment). That's why He is the controller of all, truly the omnipotent - 'sarvashaktimaan', aspect. Bhagwan is used for Vishnu or Shiva to indicate the luminous/illumined/glorious ones etc. It is also used to address those who are highly evolved like our siants/sages/rishies were/are also addressed as Bhagwan, e.g., bhagwan kashyap. It is also used to address someone with deep respect - 'maanaarth', or to truly address - in respect - the divine aspect of those who are highly evolved like shri Raman Maharshi has been addressed as bhagwan.That's why in Gitaji, it is said Bhagwan Uvaach - the owner and thus the controller of all said..., not Krishna born in human form is saying anything, but the one who is speaking, is beyond the name and form.Hope this additional information helps...Kind regards,Always at Thy Lotus Feet On Behalf Of Manoj PandaMonday, January 30, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: RE: FAQDivine Suhasji:Ram! Ram!"Bhagaban" means who is or has the source of all.In Srimad Bhagavad Gita it is said SriBhagavAnuvAcha or Thus says the Lord. It is not said that SriKrishna UvAcha. The reason being When SriKrishna was in Yoga while teaching Arjuna the GitA, He was speaking from the highest, the source of all.Bhagavan has all. There is nothing which is not in His control.Thank you!humble regards-m>"Asha Suhas Gogate" <suhasha> > > FAQ>27 Jan 2006 15:28:37 -0000>> Respected Swamiji, ram , ram>>I have always thought about the word. "BHAGWAN". It is used so often in >daily life.>There are similar words, which are understood with ease. e.g. Balwan; >Medhawan; Dhanwan, Vidyawan etc But the word Bhagwan seems to have a >peculiar meaning. Kindly explain what "Bhag' stands for ..> Looking forward to your blessings Suhas Gogate>>>>>On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 Manoj Panda wrote :> >Divine One:> >************> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> >****************> >Accept the things as it comes (both good and bad) without being>perturbed.> >Be a witness, sAkhshI bhAva.> >> >***********> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> >********> >Any "Agraha" is rooted in desire and that is the cause of suffering. >However> >there is one activity called "nisskAma karma" or "kAmanA rahit kArya". >That> >is equivalent of "padmapatramivAmvasA" or lotus leaf in water where > >water can't touch the lotus leaf even though it is staying in water > >all the>time.> >> >Next question is how can it be achieved? By being "sAkssI" or witness > >to>all> >events. One has to be convinced of who is the real Doer. "Ishwara > >sarva bhUtAnAm hruddesherjuna tissThati, bhrAmayan sarva bhUtAni > >yantrArUDhAni mAyayA" (Gita, Ch 18, verse 61). Lord is at the core, > >the real Doer. mAyA>or> >the illusive machine covers that Reality.> >**********> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> >> >**********> >Many places. "nirAshI nirmama bhUtwA, yudhyaswa bigatajwara" (3/30) > >"nirAshIryatachittAtmA, tyaktasarvamparigraha" (4/21), "ekAkI yata > >chittAtmA, nirAshIraparigrahah" (6/10). The whole Gita talks about this.> >Please revert the word "GItA". It becomes "tAGI". "tyAGa" or > >renunciation>is> >the key of "GitA". How one can do it in living in the world? That's > >what Lord Krishna showed by living His life like that.> >> >************> >> >Experiencing the absolute calmness in intense activity or otherwise > >is>true> >"sAkhssI bhAva" in the realm of relativity.> >> >humble regards> >-m> >> >> > >raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu> > > > > > > > >Re: QS: No Insistence (koyi aagraha nahi)> > >Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:59:45 -0800 (PST)> > >> > >> > >> > >mdoshi2 <mdoshi2 wrote: Shree Hari> > >Ram Ram> > >> > >In recent daily messages on Desire (Kamanaa), it was stated:> > >> > >"Wishing that things happen a certain way to your liking and not > > >another way to your disliking, these subtle desires - likes and > > >dislikes, come filled with sorrow."> > >"A spiritual aspirant must neither wish to fulfill worldly desires, > > >nor despair the lack of fulfillment of spiritual aspirations."> > >"One must have no insistence (aagraha) of any sort.> > >Questions:> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> > >> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> > >> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> > >> > >4) Has Pujya Swamiji elaborated on this anywhere?> > >> > >I pray and seek your guidance.> > >> > >With devotion at the lotus feet of Lord Krishna, A Sadhak> > >> > >> > >Priy Sadhak> > > My humble answer to ur Q is> > > 1.Koi aagrah Nahi means in both.Actually it needs some sort of > > >understanding. Imagine we all are like tiny parts of great machine>called> > >SRISHTI.eVERY PART HAS PARTICULAR FUNCTION TO PERFORM.you do aagrah > > >or>not,> > >it does not matter much to the god.The KARTA of the universe.we can>humbly> > >love to be ansh of great lord.as he said "MAMEVANSHO JEEVLOKE JEEV>BHOOT> > >SANATAN".> > > sO THINK WHATS THE VALUE OF OUR Aagrah in compare to gods will? > > >If u want to do Agrah there is one place for u. Aagrah stongly for > > >gods love.cause thats the only thing valuable in the universe.> > > 2.There should not be ANY aagrah.thats the first thing to>clarify.OK.> > > When u work on the wavelength of the GOD How can u be>vulnerable.Anybody> > >trying to make U vulnerable will be taken good care by the GOD. U > > >need>not> > >to worry.> > > Infact worrying is also aagrah.> > > 3.Geeta ji says " SARVA SANKALP PARITYAGI YOGARUDASYA TADOCHYATE. "> > > 4.Please read SADHAK SANJIVANI GEETA 18/66.Swamiji has said a > > >lot in datails about this.> > > a lot of love. Pl keep in touch.shre ur experiences.> > > Raja.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 It does not depends on wat u believe it is just experienced now if u can't experience it the best thing for u is sharanagati. u can also pray to God to help u coz in today's world understanding GYANA is not a big thing the big thing is how u experience it. now if u r stuck in this web u can surely ask GOD to help u understand all this ur main aim is not to understand the tatvagyana but ur udeshya is GOD u can just leave GYANA behind {if u can't understand it} and can follow the path of love like a married lady has blind love for her husband u can also experience the same with GOD. REMEMBER---------- GOD says if u r not interested in me and do not workout for ur moksha {from 84 lac YONIS} still at the end u have to come to me only. And if u think hinduism is cofusing which is not true coz u can see the same thing happening with CHristians they also consider Christ as speaking in the form of God same is with Islam,etc. IF U WANNA EXPERIENCE HOW GOD LOVES FIRST COMPOSE URSELF FOR HIS LOVE AND THEN THOROULY GO THROUGH "SADHAKA SANJIVANI" Shloka--- 66 and Adhyaya----- 18 in LOTUS FEET RAJA suka3145 wrote: may i add further to this poise thinking of god talking thru human being ,it is not only the selflessness but if it is not mixed with the persons own views or thoughts which has been a problem with hinduism that is why it is so confusing ido not mean to condemn or offend any one i amm expressing my own openion as i see it, do not think god is speeking thru me thanks s.k. raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu Sent: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:01:26 -0800 (PST)RE: FAQ priy sadhika manjula, u have delivered good explanation of BHAGWAN. I admire it. May u always keep good understanding with god. One thing i want to pray, u said the god spoke not krishna. I say god is in every one & everyone speak selflessly is actually god speaking not that human. even ur explaining god also not spoken by u but god himself. I believe it & dont just say. Is that ok. or am i wrong.then pl tell me wats wrong. in lotus feet Raja."Patel, Manjula" <manjula.patel wrote: Divine Soul,Pranam.Additional information to what Manojbaba is explaining here.Just like Dhanwan means the owner of dhan, Vidhyawan owns the Vidhya, Bhagwan is the owner of aishwarya, that includes aishwarya (luminous aspect), virya (strength), yash (glory), shree (wealth), knowledge, and vairaagya (detachment). That's why He is the controller of all, truly the omnipotent - 'sarvashaktimaan', aspect. Bhagwan is used for Vishnu or Shiva to indicate the luminous/illumined/glorious ones etc. It is also used to address those who are highly evolved like our siants/sages/rishies were/are also addressed as Bhagwan, e.g., bhagwan kashyap. It is also used to address someone with deep respect - 'maanaarth', or to truly address - in respect - the divine aspect of those who are highly evolved like shri Raman Maharshi has been addressed as bhagwan.That's why in Gitaji, it is said Bhagwan Uvaach - the owner and thus the controller of all said..., not Krishna born in human form is saying anything, but the one who is speaking, is beyond the name and form.Hope this additional information helps...Kind regards,Always at Thy Lotus Feet On Behalf Of Manoj PandaMonday, January 30, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: RE: FAQDivine Suhasji:Ram! Ram!"Bhagaban" means who is or has the source of all.In Srimad Bhagavad Gita it is said SriBhagavAnuvAcha or Thus says the Lord. It is not said that SriKrishna UvAcha. The reason being When SriKrishna was in Yoga while teaching Arjuna the GitA, He was speaking from the highest, the source of all.Bhagavan has all. There is nothing which is not in His control.Thank you!humble regards-m>"Asha Suhas Gogate" <suhasha> > > FAQ>27 Jan 2006 15:28:37 -0000>> Respected Swamiji, ram , ram>>I have always thought about the word. "BHAGWAN". It is used so often in >daily life.>There are similar words, which are understood with ease. e.g. Balwan; >Medhawan; Dhanwan, Vidyawan etc But the word Bhagwan seems to have a >peculiar meaning. Kindly explain what "Bhag' stands for ..> Looking forward to your blessings Suhas Gogate>>>>>On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 Manoj Panda wrote :> >Divine One:> >************> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> >****************> >Accept the things as it comes (both good and bad) without being>perturbed.> >Be a witness, sAkhshI bhAva.> >> >***********> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> >********> >Any "Agraha" is rooted in desire and that is the cause of suffering. >However> >there is one activity called "nisskAma karma" or "kAmanA rahit kArya". >That> >is equivalent of "padmapatramivAmvasA" or lotus leaf in water where > >water can't touch the lotus leaf even though it is staying in water > >all the>time.> >> >Next question is how can it be achieved? By being "sAkssI" or witness > >to>all> >events. One has to be convinced of who is the real Doer. "Ishwara > >sarva bhUtAnAm hruddesherjuna tissThati, bhrAmayan sarva bhUtAni > >yantrArUDhAni mAyayA" (Gita, Ch 18, verse 61). Lord is at the core, > >the real Doer. mAyA>or> >the illusive machine covers that Reality.> >**********> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> >> >**********> >Many places. "nirAshI nirmama bhUtwA, yudhyaswa bigatajwara" (3/30) > >"nirAshIryatachittAtmA, tyaktasarvamparigraha" (4/21), "ekAkI yata > >chittAtmA, nirAshIraparigrahah" (6/10). The whole Gita talks about this.> >Please revert the word "GItA". It becomes "tAGI". "tyAGa" or > >renunciation>is> >the key of "GitA". How one can do it in living in the world? That's > >what Lord Krishna showed by living His life like that.> >> >************> >> >Experiencing the absolute calmness in intense activity or otherwise > >is>true> >"sAkhssI bhAva" in the realm of relativity.> >> >humble regards> >-m> >> >> > >raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu> > > > > > > > >Re: QS: No Insistence (koyi aagraha nahi)> > >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:59:45 -0800 (PST)> > >> > >> > >> > >mdoshi2 <mdoshi2 wrote: Shree Hari> > >Ram Ram> > >> > >In recent daily messages on Desire (Kamanaa), it was stated:> > >> > >"Wishing that things happen a certain way to your liking and not > > >another way to your disliking, these subtle desires - likes and > > >dislikes, come filled with sorrow."> > >"A spiritual aspirant must neither wish to fulfill worldly desires, > > >nor despair the lack of fulfillment of spiritual aspirations."> > >"One must have no insistence (aagraha) of any sort.> > >Questions:> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> > >> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> > >> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> > >> > >4) Has Pujya Swamiji elaborated on this anywhere?> > >> > >I pray and seek your guidance.> > >> > >With devotion at the lotus feet of Lord Krishna, A Sadhak> > >> > >> > >Priy Sadhak> > > My humble answer to ur Q is> > > 1.Koi aagrah Nahi means in both.Actually it needs some sort of > > >understanding. Imagine we all are like tiny parts of great machine>called> > >SRISHTI.eVERY PART HAS PARTICULAR FUNCTION TO PERFORM.you do aagrah > > >or>not,> > >it does not matter much to the god.The KARTA of the universe.we can>humbly> > >love to be ansh of great lord.as he said "MAMEVANSHO JEEVLOKE JEEV>BHOOT> > >SANATAN".> > > sO THINK WHATS THE VALUE OF OUR Aagrah in compare to gods will? > > >If u want to do Agrah there is one place for u. Aagrah stongly for > > >gods love.cause thats the only thing valuable in the universe.> > > 2.There should not be ANY aagrah.thats the first thing to>clarify.OK.> > > When u work on the wavelength of the GOD How can u be>vulnerable.Anybody> > >trying to make U vulnerable will be taken good care by the GOD. U > > >need>not> > >to worry.> > > Infact worrying is also aagrah.> > > 3.Geeta ji says " SARVA SANKALP PARITYAGI YOGARUDASYA TADOCHYATE. "> > > 4.Please read SADHAK SANJIVANI GEETA 18/66.Swamiji has said a > > >lot in datails about this.> > > a lot of love. Pl keep in touch.shre ur experiences.> > > Raja.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Dear Sadhak,Sadar Pranaam.Sometimes it is difficult to understand , because God is above our mind. God, is everywhere and God is in everything and God is behind each and every action,there is no doubt about it, so there remains nothing to do for us except chanting His name and thanking Him for each and every breath. When we surrender completely to God, we see Him in everything, everywhere and in every action. The problem with us is that we are hiding ourselves behind our mind's veil.We are stuck in the web which our mind has woven. As soon as we surrender our mind, our ego, we can see Him in everything, everywhere and in every action.Seeing is a subjective experience, it depends on "I"only, the same thing can be experienced differently by different person. A devotee sees God behind every actions, a kind, intelligent social reformer sees good and bad behind every actions and a egoist self centered person sees his own respect / disrespect, and how that action affecting him personally, behind every action.But lets be specific and summarize, the question was what is the meaning of Bhagwaan, and the answer was "source of everything". That means God is behind evrything, behind every action. This means God exist in everything that IS.So He exists in our minds too. That means God exist in Good and Evil too. God is in a devotee, a selfless person and in a egoist, in all only GOD exists.Now the point is about subjective experience. GOD exist in everything but a devotee can see God while others cannot, because GOD is above our mind. Only a devotee surrender his/her mind/ego to God and sees God everywhere while intellectuals and egoist put a veil of their own mind, thoughts and ego, and hide themselves behind this veil, thats why they cannot see God everywhere.All saints says the same thing- surrender .So , lets chant His devine name,lets meditate , lets surrender ourselves to God and Guru, and accept everything as God .......sadhnaraja gurdasani <muhurmuhu wrote: It does not depends on wat u believe it is just experienced now if u can't experience it the best thing for u is sharanagati. u can also pray to God to help u coz in today's world understanding GYANA is not a big thing the big thing is how u experience it. now if u r stuck in this web u can surely ask GOD to help u understand all this ur main aim is not to understand the tatvagyana but ur udeshya is GOD u can just leave GYANA behind {if u can't understand it} and can follow the path of love like a married lady has blind love for her husband u can also experience the same with GOD. REMEMBER---------- GOD says if u r not interested in me and do not workout for ur moksha {from 84 lac YONIS} still at the end u have to come to me only. And if u think hinduism is cofusing which is not true coz u can see the same thing happening with CHristians they also consider Christ as speaking in the form of God same is with Islam,etc. IF U WANNA EXPERIENCE HOW GOD LOVES FIRST COMPOSE URSELF FOR HIS LOVE AND THEN THOROULY GO THROUGH "SADHAKA SANJIVANI" Shloka--- 66 and Adhyaya----- 18 in LOTUS FEET RAJA suka3145 wrote: may i add further to this poise thinking of god talking thru human being ,it is not only the selflessness but if it is not mixed with the persons own views or thoughts which has been a problem with hinduism that is why it is so confusing ido not mean to condemn or offend any one i amm expressing my own openion as i see it, do not think god is speeking thru me thanks s.k. raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu Sent: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:01:26 -0800 (PST)RE: FAQ priy sadhika manjula, u have delivered good explanation of BHAGWAN. I admire it. May u always keep good understanding with god. One thing i want to pray, u said the god spoke not krishna. I say god is in every one & everyone speak selflessly is actually god speaking not that human. even ur explaining god also not spoken by u but god himself. I believe it & dont just say. Is that ok. or am i wrong.then pl tell me wats wrong. in lotus feet Raja."Patel, Manjula" <manjula.patel wrote: Divine Soul,Pranam.Additional information to what Manojbaba is explaining here.Just like Dhanwan means the owner of dhan, Vidhyawan owns the Vidhya, Bhagwan is the owner of aishwarya, that includes aishwarya (luminous aspect), virya (strength), yash (glory), shree (wealth), knowledge, and vairaagya (detachment). That's why He is the controller of all, truly the omnipotent - 'sarvashaktimaan', aspect. Bhagwan is used for Vishnu or Shiva to indicate the luminous/illumined/glorious ones etc. It is also used to address those who are highly evolved like our siants/sages/rishies were/are also addressed as Bhagwan, e.g., bhagwan kashyap. It is also used to address someone with deep respect - 'maanaarth', or to truly address - in respect - the divine aspect of those who are highly evolved like shri Raman Maharshi has been addressed as bhagwan.That's why in Gitaji, it is said Bhagwan Uvaach - the owner and thus the controller of all said..., not Krishna born in human form is saying anything, but the one who is speaking, is beyond the name and form.Hope this additional information helps...Kind regards,Always at Thy Lotus Feet On Behalf Of Manoj PandaMonday, January 30, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: RE: FAQDivine Suhasji:Ram! Ram!"Bhagaban" means who is or has the source of all.In Srimad Bhagavad Gita it is said SriBhagavAnuvAcha or Thus says the Lord. It is not said that SriKrishna UvAcha. The reason being When SriKrishna was in Yoga while teaching Arjuna the GitA, He was speaking from the highest, the source of all.Bhagavan has all. There is nothing which is not in His control.Thank you!humble regards-m>"Asha Suhas Gogate" <suhasha> > > FAQ>27 Jan 2006 15:28:37 -0000>> Respected Swamiji, ram , ram>>I have always thought about the word. "BHAGWAN". It is used so often in >daily life.>There are similar words, which are understood with ease. e.g. Balwan; >Medhawan; Dhanwan, Vidyawan etc But the word Bhagwan seems to have a >peculiar meaning. Kindly explain what "Bhag' stands for ..> Looking forward to your blessings Suhas Gogate>>>>>On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 Manoj Panda wrote :> >Divine One:> >************> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> >****************> >Accept the things as it comes (both good and bad) without being>perturbed.> >Be a witness, sAkhshI bhAva.> >> >***********> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> >********> >Any "Agraha" is rooted in desire and that is the cause of suffering. >However> >there is one activity called "nisskAma karma" or "kAmanA rahit kArya". >That> >is equivalent of "padmapatramivAmvasA" or lotus leaf in water where > >water can't touch the lotus leaf even though it is staying in water > >all the>time.> >> >Next question is how can it be achieved? By being "sAkssI" or witness > >to>all> >events. One has to be convinced of who is the real Doer. "Ishwara > >sarva bhUtAnAm hruddesherjuna tissThati, bhrAmayan sarva bhUtAni > >yantrArUDhAni mAyayA" (Gita, Ch 18, verse 61). Lord is at the core, > >the real Doer. mAyA>or> >the illusive machine covers that Reality.> >**********> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> >> >**********> >Many places. "nirAshI nirmama bhUtwA, yudhyaswa bigatajwara" (3/30) > >"nirAshIryatachittAtmA, tyaktasarvamparigraha" (4/21), "ekAkI yata > >chittAtmA, nirAshIraparigrahah" (6/10). The whole Gita talks about this.> >Please revert the word "GItA". It becomes "tAGI". "tyAGa" or > >renunciation>is> >the key of "GitA". How one can do it in living in the world? That's > >what Lord Krishna showed by living His life like that.> >> >************> >> >Experiencing the absolute calmness in intense activity or otherwise > >is>true> >"sAkhssI bhAva" in the realm of relativity.> >> >humble regards> >-m> >> >> > >raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu> > > > > > > > >Re: QS: No Insistence (koyi aagraha nahi)> > >Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:59:45 -0800 (PST)> > >> > >> > >> > >mdoshi2 <mdoshi2 wrote: Shree Hari> > >Ram Ram> > >> > >In recent daily messages on Desire (Kamanaa), it was stated:> > >> > >"Wishing that things happen a certain way to your liking and not > > >another way to your disliking, these subtle desires - likes and > > >dislikes, come filled with sorrow."> > >"A spiritual aspirant must neither wish to fulfill worldly desires, > > >nor despair the lack of fulfillment of spiritual aspirations."> > >"One must have no insistence (aagraha) of any sort.> > >Questions:> > >1) What does Swamiji mean by "no insistence" of any sort? Does he > > >mean no insistence in the "happenings" (hone mein) only? or also > > >in the "act of doing" (karnemein)?> > >> > >2) Shouldn't there be some insistence (aagraha)in things happening > > >a certain way, according to scriptural injunctions, virtuous and> > >acceptable conduct? Having no insistence of any sort, wouldn't> > >that make one vulnerable?> > >> > >3) Does Gitaji specifically say anything about - "No insistence"> > >(koi aagraha nahi) and> > >> > >4) Has Pujya Swamiji elaborated on this anywhere?> > >> > >I pray and seek your guidance.> > >> > >With devotion at the lotus feet of Lord Krishna, A Sadhak> > >> > >> > >Priy Sadhak> > > My humble answer to ur Q is> > > 1.Koi aagrah Nahi means in both.Actually it needs some sort of > > >understanding. Imagine we all are like tiny parts of great machine>called> > >SRISHTI.eVERY PART HAS PARTICULAR FUNCTION TO PERFORM.you do aagrah > > >or>not,> > >it does not matter much to the god.The KARTA of the universe.we can>humbly> > >love to be ansh of great lord.as he said "MAMEVANSHO JEEVLOKE JEEV>BHOOT> > >SANATAN".> > > sO THINK WHATS THE VALUE OF OUR Aagrah in compare to gods will? > > >If u want to do Agrah there is one place for u. Aagrah stongly for > > >gods love.cause thats the only thing valuable in the universe.> > > 2.There should not be ANY aagrah.thats the first thing to>clarify.OK.> > > When u work on the wavelength of the GOD How can u be>vulnerable.Anybody> > >trying to make U vulnerable will be taken good care by the GOD. U > > >need>not> > >to worry.> > > Infact worrying is also aagrah.> > > 3.Geeta ji says " SARVA SANKALP PARITYAGI YOGARUDASYA TADOCHYATE. "> > > 4.Please read SADHAK SANJIVANI GEETA 18/66.Swamiji has said a > > >lot in datails about this.> > > a lot of love. Pl keep in touch.shre ur experiences.> > > Raja.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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