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Shree Hari

Ram Ram

 

ALL RESPONSES ARE FROM SWAMIJI'S MESSAGES:

 

QUESTION: Is " Shree " (bhog and sangraha i.e. enjoyment of pleasures

and wealth ) is OK to go ahead and enjoy?

 

Enjoyment of pleasures and accumulation of wealth are to be strictly

avoided by a sincere spiritual aspirant.

 

The Lord has said:

" Bhogaisvaryaprasaktaanam tayaapahrtacetasaam

vyavasaayaatmikaa buddhih samaadhau na vidheeyate. "

 

" No mind that is lured by sense-objects and engrossed in sensual

enjoyments and glory of material possessions can ever enter, O,

Partha, the state of contemplation and divine communion

transcendental. " *

 

He who is intensely attached to sense-enjoyments and acquisition of

material things, cannot even conceive or decide on moving towards

God. There is no resolve to turn towards God, and when this resolve

is not strong enough, where is the question of God-Realization ?

When one rises above the transitory attractions of sense-objects

(the unreal), then God-Realization is not at all difficult. Where

is the difficulty in realizing what already is, that which is self-

evident, ever present, real, imperishable and eternal? That which

already " IS " .

 

It is ironical that in spite of the fact that human beings are

sensible creatures, yet surprisingly they desire enjoyments and

things that have a beginning and an end. Just ponder for a moment -

if from whom you seek enjoyment and happiness, is he himself

entirely happy? Isn't he unhappy? How could an unhappy person

make you happy? One who longs enjoyments and pleasures has to face

the agony of their wants. Desire for enjoyment (bhog) and for

accumulation of worldly possessions (sangraha), both only cause one

to commit sins. They are of no other use. One must therefore

renounce the desire for enjoyment and the hoarding of material

possessions. Just as one gets misery without seeking or wanting it,

similarly one receives enjoyment and pleasure without desiring

them. Rather an aspirant should never desire for worldly enjoyment

and pleasure. At some point in time in one's life, one will have to

give up worldly pleasures and enjoyments. This is inevitable, so why

delay. Attraction to enjoyment and gratification from worldly

pleasures and attachment to accumulation of wealth are the greatest

obstacles to Realization of God (or Self).

 

Swamiji says – seeking enjoyment from pleasure makes one weak.

A large black bee, drills a hole is capable of drilling hole through

a hard and impenetrable bamboo, however the same bee enclosed inside

a lotus, is incapable of drilling through the soft lotus petals.

The reason it the bee has become weak, because it is gaining

enjoyment from sucking the nectar in the lotus. Similarly man seeks

pleasures and enjoyments from the world which make him weak. This

world that appears as beautiful as a lady, makes one unsteady and

weak. So what is this unstable behavior, this immaturity? Seeking

enjoyment from the world itself is immaturity. One has to remove

this weakness.

 

1) What is the right thing to do based on the Gita ?

 

Gita clearly states that - He who is free from desires, attachment,

egoism and thirst for enjoyment, attains peace. Gita 2/71

 

Gita says - The pleasures that are born of sense-contact are verily

a source of suffering only (though appearing as enjoyable to worldly

minded people). They have a beginning and an end (they come and go).

Arjuna, it is for this reason that a wise man does not indulge in

them. (Gita 5:22).

 

Gita clearly states - 'I am not the body'. You are separate from the

body. All desires for enjoyments and for accumulation of material

possession come as a result of this erroneous understanding and

association with the body.

 

2) How to know, who is the right Guru (that can be trusted /

believed)? What are the qualities?

 

In those Gurus, Saints and Great Souls is seen the following -

 

1. Appears to be filled with true wisdom, seems to know the real

nature of things and in whom is seen the kind of transcendental

divinity and remarkableness that is not seen in anyone else.

2. Has deep knowledge of the core essence of the three spiritual

disciplines - Path of Action (Karmayog), Path of Knowledge

(jnanayog) and Path of Devotion (bhaktiyog) etc

3. Through whose association (satsangs) and assurances, all doubts

that are in the aspirant's hearts are dispelled on their own, even

without uttering a single word.

4. By staying in whose presence, joy and peace is experienced.

5. Seems to have an association with the spiritual aspirants only for

their benefit and for their salvation.

6. Does not expect anything from the aspirant, even the slightest

bit.

7. Whose each and every wish and aspiration is simply for the benefit

of the spiritual seeker.

8. In whose company, intense longing, focus and direction towards

the ultimate aim is intensified of its own accord.

9. In whose company, from face to face meetings, from lectures,

through contemplation etc., evil and bad qualities are eradicated on

their own, and good qualities, good behavior, divinity naturally and

effortlessly prevail.

 

3) What does Gita say about Guru or Spiritual Master?

 

Gita does not give as much importance to external rules, ordinances

and outward transformations, as much as, internal intention and

expressions (bhaava), discrimination (vivek), wisdom (boddh), deep

seated spiritual quest (jigyaasa), and the spirit of sacrifice

(tyaag). In the exposition of knowledge (jnana), in the following

verses, " pranipaaten pariprashshren sevayaa " (Gita 4:34)

and " Aachaaryoupaasenam, " (Gita 13:7) Gita has talked about serving

the teachers and worshipful reverence. The significance of this

verse is that, in the path of knowledge (Jnana marg), there is a

greater tendency to develop arrogance, that " I am Brahma " (I

am that Supreme Reality). In order to alarm the spiritual aspirant,

there is the stipulation expressed or need for a realized spiritual

master. However, even this is only necessary if the spiritual

aspirant is lacking in intense quest or is of the deep belief that

only through the instructions of a spiritual master, he can attain

knowledge. But on having intense inner longing, an ardent desire,

the spiritual aspirant will not feel satisfied in any condition

without having attained the divine knowledge. He will not get stuck

in any religious organization, and he will not consider any special

qualities in himself, causing him to become egoistical. Such a

sincere spiritual seeker's quest will attain realization by God's

divine grace.

 

Arjun was at all times with Lord Krishna; he used to eat, drink,

stand, sit, sleep, wake-up along with Krishna. When an inner quest

was awakened within Arjun, a pursuit of spiritual fortune, a desire

to be released from bondage and a longing for salvation – " yacchryah

syaannischintam broohi tanme, " (Gita 2:7), it was only after this

state in Arjun, that Lord Krishna delivered the message of the

Gita. After the awakening of this intense longing within him, Arjun

considered himself a student (shishya), and on taking refuge in Lord

Krishna, Arjun pleads for instructions and direction –

" shishyasteham shaadhi maam tvaam prapannam " (Gita 2:7). It was

not due to Master - Student age-old tradition (guru sishya

parampara) that Arjun consider Lord Krishna a Guru. Also it is

not that Lord Krishna started delivering the message of the Gita,

only after following some scriptural traditions of first accepting

Arjun as a student, thereafter giving a Guru mantra (secret magical

formula, sacred verse) and placing His hand on Arjun's head. From

this it is evident that for attaining spiritual progress, it is not

essential too engage in Master – Disciple (guru-shishya)

relationship. God's divine grace, the divine declarations of the

Saints and great Souls, the Scriptures and Holy books, the

atmosphere itself, all of these avail themselves to provide

spiritual instructions, disciplines, tools, techniques (saamagri),

automatically and naturally to a zealous spiritual seeker, who is

able to grasp them.

 

4) Is there a need for a Guru? What if none appear to make the

mark of an ideal Guru in your judgement ?

 

For ones salvation, Guru is desirable, but a Guru that you take on,

will not lead to salvation. He who is instrumental to your

salvation, automatically becomes your Guru. The point is that for

salvation one does not need to take on a Guru, rather those whose

teachings you imbibe in your life, automatically become your Guru.

 

It is the intense quest, inquiry, faith and belief, that one is able

to take the spiritual teachings from anyone without having a formal

relationship (Guru-disciple) with that individual. " Shraddhavaan

labhate jyaanam " (Gita 4:39). The point is that knowledge is

attained through one's own internal quest (swayam), intense pursuit,

not by making someone a Guru.

 

In reality, God is Ultimate Guru, because whoever receives

knowledge, wisdom, enlightenment, he receives it from God only.

 

" Ahamaadirhi devanaam maharshinaam cha sarvashah, " (Gita 10:2).

Even Arjun while seeing the vision of God's Universal Form

(Viratroop), he does stuti and says " God, you are guru of all –

" " Gariyase " (Gita 11:37); " Gurugariyaan " (Gita 11:43).

Therefore it is not essential for a spiritual aspirant to search and

seek a spiritual guide. Considering " Krishna as the Guru of this

World " " Krishnam Vande Jagatgurrum " and considering Krishna's voice

and words as expounded in the Gita, as the Mantra, believing in the

message, and in accordance to his orders one should get fully

engaged in spiritual disciplines. If a spiritual aspirant has the

need for a Guru of this world (laukik), then Jagat guru (God) will

of his own accord make him meet a Guru, because God will provide

for all needs of a devotee, " Yogkshemam vahaamyaham " (Gita

9:22).

 

A Sadhak

Ram Ram

 

 

 

>

>

On

> Behalf Of Mamta Kaura

> Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:06 PM

>

> FW: Bhog aur Sangraha nahi karnaa hai

>

> Shree Hari

>

> Ram Ram

> >

> I recently heard a Hindu Spiritual Leader on TV Asia, whose general

> theme was - It is Ok to go ahead and enjoy Wealth and Glamour

(Shree)...

> But do not forget Hari(God). After all Dwarka was made of gold

too.

>

> I am often confused with the contradictions amongst various hindu

> spiritual masters. So utterly conflicting are the various

messages from

> various spritual speakers. Living in the West, I feel torn and do

not

> know whether it is possible to live as Swami Ramsukhdasji

suggests -

> " Bhog aur Sangraha nahi karnaa hai. " (i.e. No enjoyment of

pleasures and

> accumulation of wealth and other things) and at the same time do

> not>know if " Shree " is OK to go ahead and enjoy?

>

> 1) What is the right thing to do based on the Gita ?

> 2) How to know, who is the right Guru (that can be trusted /

believed)?

>

> What are

> the qualities?

> 3) What does Gita say about Guru or Spiritual Master?

> 4) Is there a need for a Guru? What if none appear to make the

mark of

> an ideal Guru in your judgement ?

> 5) Should women have a spiritual master?

>

> I seek advice, kindly, Mamta

> Ram Ram

 

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