Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I make no claim as an expert on the various philosophies taught in the Gita, or Hinduism as a whole. From my understanding, suffering is the constant cycle of death and rebirth. Our goal should be to find a way to escape this cycle through the various means described in the Gita. If you look around, however, it seems like we are the ones who are perpetuating this cycle of rebirth. We choose to bring people into this world, not a divine force. What does the Gita say about giving birth to a new child? It seems that this act is in fact a crime -- with each birth, we are pulling another soul into rebirth, thus forcing them into suffering. The only answer I have for this seemingly paradoxical occurrence is this: we give birth to humans in order to give them the chance to salvage their souls. If this is indeed the case, then it follows that a soul cannot be salvaged unless its in the form of a body. Why? Why would God do this? Why would he enforce such a mechanism? If no new life were to be created at all, what would happen? Would those souls that have not reached enlightenment be stuck in eternal limbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Sachinji, Liberation according to our scripture is freedom from suffering. The escape from cycle of rebirth is a side effect of mukti. Freedom can only be attained as humans. Even celestial being cannot attain liberation. Thus human birth is the greatest gift of the LORD. Anil Aggarwal On Behalf Of Sachin Kumar Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:18 AM Perpetuating Suffering I make no claim as an expert on the various philosophies taught in the Gita, or Hinduism as a whole. From my understanding, suffering is the constant cycle of death and rebirth. Our goal should be to find a way to escape this cycle through the various means described in the Gita. If you look around, however, it seems like we are the ones who are perpetuating this cycle of rebirth. We choose to bring people into this world, not a divine force. What does the Gita say about giving birth to a new child? It seems that this act is in fact a crime -- with each birth, we are pulling another soul into rebirth, thus forcing them into suffering. The only answer I have for this seemingly paradoxical occurrence is this: we give birth to humans in order to give them the chance to salvage their souls. If this is indeed the case, then it follows that a soul cannot be salvaged unless its in the form of a body. Why? Why would God do this? Why would he enforce such a mechanism? If no new life were to be created at all, what would happen? Would those souls that have not reached enlightenment be stuck in eternal limbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 ANILJI, nAMASTEJI. wHY ARE YOU aggrevating yourself so much. No one knows even there is God!..I know of no one to whom god has talked.. subb bakvaas hai.And who says we have to escape the cycle of birth and rebith? And go against nature..Gather all the definations of God and think..all is a creation of minds needs to have a higher authority whom we can blame and pray in need..the same rules need to exist to smooth run the society..otherwise you have to answer oroginal vedic question..and who created him? and what is he made up of? and who gave him all this power? Neti,Neti, Neti. and no one will ever know..But you can go round and round and Mazaa is in playing the game..not the result..After all, we do not know what we were before, we are notsure what we will be after..no matter who says what..But khabhi kabhi, hum bhi khellki mazaame musta ho jaate hai. vishnudada --- Anil Aggarwal <aaggarwal wrote: > Sachinji, > > > Liberation according to our scripture is freedom > from suffering. The escape > from cycle of rebirth is a side effect of mukti. > Freedom can only be > attained as humans. Even celestial being cannot > attain liberation. Thus > human birth is the greatest gift of the LORD. > > > Anil Aggarwal > > > > On Behalf > Of Sachin Kumar > Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:18 AM > > Perpetuating Suffering > > I make no claim as an expert on the various > philosophies taught in the > Gita, or Hinduism as a whole. From my understanding, > suffering is the > constant cycle of death and rebirth. Our goal should > be to find a way > to escape this cycle through the various means > described in the Gita. > > If you look around, however, it seems like we are > the ones who are > perpetuating this cycle of rebirth. We choose to > bring people into > this world, not a divine force. What does the Gita > say about giving > birth to a new child? It seems that this act is in > fact a crime -- > with each birth, we are pulling another soul into > rebirth, thus > forcing them into suffering. > > The only answer I have for this seemingly > paradoxical occurrence is > this: we give birth to humans in order to give them > the chance to > salvage their souls. If this is indeed the case, > then it follows that > a soul cannot be salvaged unless its in the form of > a body. Why? Why > would God do this? Why would he enforce such a > mechanism? If no new > life were to be created at all, what would happen? > Would those souls > that have not reached enlightenment be stuck in > eternal limbo? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Vishnudada. I feel the presence of lord's intelligence in every aspect of this cosmos. May be you do not. Why do all star stay in their orbit? Why is gravity is exactly what it is? Can anything be created without intelligence and a creator? Wake up accept the lord as the underlying intelligence in this creation. I am not asking you to believe in Rama or krshna or shiva but the substratum of this creation the lord. Anil aggarwal On Behalf Of Vishnubhai Patel Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:04 AM Cc: aaggarwal RE: Perpetuating Suffering ANILJI, nAMASTEJI. wHY ARE YOU aggrevating yourself so much. No one knows even there is God!..I know of no one to whom god has talked.. subb bakvaas hai.And who says we have to escape the cycle of birth and rebith? And go against nature..Gather all the definations of God and think..all is a creation of minds needs to have a higher authority whom we can blame and pray in need..the same rules need to exist to smooth run the society..otherwise you have to answer oroginal vedic question..and who created him? and what is he made up of? and who gave him all this power? Neti,Neti, Neti. and no one will ever know..But you can go round and round and Mazaa is in playing the game..not the result..After all, we do not know what we were before, we are notsure what we will be after..no matter who says what..But khabhi kabhi, hum bhi khellki mazaame musta ho jaate hai. vishnudada --- Anil Aggarwal <aaggarwal wrote: > Sachinji, > > > Liberation according to our scripture is freedom > from suffering. The escape > from cycle of rebirth is a side effect of mukti. > Freedom can only be > attained as humans. Even celestial being cannot > attain liberation. Thus > human birth is the greatest gift of the LORD. > > > Anil Aggarwal > > > > On Behalf > Of Sachin Kumar > Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:18 AM > > Perpetuating Suffering > > I make no claim as an expert on the various > philosophies taught in the > Gita, or Hinduism as a whole. From my understanding, > suffering is the > constant cycle of death and rebirth. Our goal should > be to find a way > to escape this cycle through the various means > described in the Gita. > > If you look around, however, it seems like we are > the ones who are > perpetuating this cycle of rebirth. We choose to > bring people into > this world, not a divine force. What does the Gita > say about giving > birth to a new child? It seems that this act is in > fact a crime -- > with each birth, we are pulling another soul into > rebirth, thus > forcing them into suffering. > > The only answer I have for this seemingly > paradoxical occurrence is > this: we give birth to humans in order to give them > the chance to > salvage their souls. If this is indeed the case, > then it follows that > a soul cannot be salvaged unless its in the form of > a body. Why? Why > would God do this? Why would he enforce such a > mechanism? If no new > life were to be created at all, what would happen? > Would those souls > that have not reached enlightenment be stuck in > eternal limbo? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Mr. Agarwal, I read your comments and praise the Lord the Creator for the Wisdom you have been bestowed with by HIM. Almighty Lord is the Creator of Haven and the Earth and the entire Universe. HIS Holy Spirit dwells within us and reveal HIS will to us every day. May peace and mercy of Lord be with you for ever. Regards. Joy Christian - Anil Aggarwal Sunday, June 18, 2006 2:46 AM RE: Perpetuating Suffering Vishnudada. I feel the presence of lord's intelligence in every aspect ofthis cosmos. May be you do not. Why do all star stay in their orbit? Why isgravity is exactly what it is? Can anything be created without intelligenceand a creator? Wake up accept the lord as the underlying intelligence inthis creation. I am not asking you to believe in Rama or krshna or shiva butthe substratum of this creation the lord.Anil aggarwal On BehalfOf Vishnubhai PatelSaturday, June 17, 2006 10:04 AM Cc: aaggarwalSubject: RE: Perpetuating SufferingANILJI, nAMASTEJI. wHY ARE YOU aggrevating yourself somuch. No one knows even there is God!..I know of noone to whom god has talked.. subb bakvaas hai.And whosays we have to escape the cycle of birth and rebith?And go against nature..Gather all the definations ofGod and think..all is a creation of minds needs tohave a higher authority whom we can blame and pray inneed..the same rules need to exist to smooth run thesociety..otherwise you have to answer oroginal vedicquestion..and who created him? and what is he made upof? and who gave him all this power? Neti,Neti, Neti.and no one will ever know..But you can go round andround and Mazaa is in playing the game..not theresult..After all, we do not know what we were before,we are notsure what we will be after..no matter whosays what..But khabhi kabhi, hum bhi khellki mazaamemusta ho jaate hai. vishnudada--- Anil Aggarwal <aaggarwal wrote:> Sachinji,> > > Liberation according to our scripture is freedom> from suffering. The escape> from cycle of rebirth is a side effect of mukti.> Freedom can only be> attained as humans. Even celestial being cannot> attain liberation. Thus> human birth is the greatest gift of the LORD.> > > Anil Aggarwal > > > > On Behalf> Of Sachin Kumar> Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:18 AM> > Perpetuating Suffering> > I make no claim as an expert on the various> philosophies taught in the> Gita, or Hinduism as a whole. From my understanding,> suffering is the> constant cycle of death and rebirth. Our goal should> be to find a way> to escape this cycle through the various means> described in the Gita.> > If you look around, however, it seems like we are> the ones who are> perpetuating this cycle of rebirth. We choose to> bring people into> this world, not a divine force. What does the Gita> say about giving> birth to a new child? It seems that this act is in> fact a crime --> with each birth, we are pulling another soul into> rebirth, thus> forcing them into suffering.> > The only answer I have for this seemingly> paradoxical occurrence is> this: we give birth to humans in order to give them> the chance to> salvage their souls. If this is indeed the case,> then it follows that> a soul cannot be salvaged unless its in the form of> a body. Why? Why> would God do this? Why would he enforce such a> mechanism? If no new> life were to be created at all, what would happen?> Would those souls> that have not reached enlightenment be stuck in> eternal limbo?> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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