Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering

[Guest guest]

" Krishna Gopal Misra " <kg.com> Tue, 22 Aug 2006

 

Dear Ravi

 

Your e-mail is very similar to my own life. No body ever can read

the Bhagwat Gita rather Bhagwat Gita decides to read the person.

After minds gets inclination of Bhagwat Gita in pious way, our

choice ends. Bhagwat Gita is a fire and we are wood, and it is this

fire that has a capacity to transform any wood into light. Wood has

to just enter the fire, and if fire accepts it, condition of wood

will start changing. Please be assured that. Bhagwat Gita is

certainly mightier than us, and question of our responsibility is

never on us, but on the Sri Krishna. Very Simple.

 

This is a secret that I am going to tell you. Bhagwat Gita says that

only do those things for which you should not be remembered. For

example, Gandhi was doing hand weaving, or cleaning his toilet or

teaching children or taking care of the goat. These acts are

extremely simple and yet highly valuable and any one can run similar

life without any comparisons, and with peace. Gandhi did not try to

make Bhakra Dam or Nuclear power plant, or Taj Mehal. The secret is

that he was consciously doing only those things that people can

easily follow but needs not remember him. Had he done a complicated

or big job, people could not do it, and he was forced to be

remembered by others.

 

I give you another example. One of my relative has taken money from

me, and this was about 2 month of salary for me. He has no intention

to give it back. I therefore was forced to remember him. I realized

that the relative (who took the money) has forcibly occupying a seat

in my mind, and I was deprived of the money as well as forced to

give a space to him in my mind. Cost of a place in my mind is very

high, and I could not afford it. I forgot that loss and removed that

relative from the place in mind he was occupying.

 

Do not remember others nor be remembered by others. `To remember' is

called violence. If you do something wrong, taken money or delivered

a defective quality, you will certainly be remembered by others.

This way, your unwelcome entry to others' mind is called violence.

Similarly, some one unwelcome and yet entering your mind is a

violence that will certainly injure you. All our anxiety is caused

by inadequate memory filter.

 

How to apply this principle on Sri Krishna? If you remember Sri

Krishna, this is a attack on him. `To remember Him' means, you are

trying to keep him in your mind, and it is a violence to imprison

Sri Krishna. Once Sri Krishna is imprisoned by you, He cannot

certainly break it, and He has to finally organize your mind in a

way that he can live. And this way, your mind gets changed. And When

mind gets changed, He starts working though you and your

relationship and behaviors externally will change. You will always

try to see that He is inside your mind, and none else can enter it.

This clever way is best way for us.

 

Try this.

 

Regards

 

K G Misra

 

, " sadhak_insight "

<sadhak_insight wrote:

>

> " Krishna Gopal Misra " <kg

>

> FW: Suspect your employer as Sri Krishna ( UPDRASTA-

> ANUMANTA- BHARTA- BHOKTA- MAHESWAR - PARMESHWAR)

> Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:35:03

>

> Dear Ravi

>

> Your question in your e-mail is what is related to my life

> experience.

>

> Family responsibility is also an important duty to Sri Krishna.

This

> is His job that you do as a custodian. Your child or any bodies'

> child is really no different. When you say that it is `your'

child,

> this is an attachment and a cause of the sorrow, and pleasure and

> fear. Treat your child, and your employers, and neighbors as

> manifestation of Sri Krishna and co-exist with all of them in

> perfect balance. You cannot be held responsible for any one of

your

> actions for action towards others because you cannot really

control

> rest of the world. You are just a delivery boy and the entire

system

> runs the way it is designed, with or without you.

>

> Sri Krishna in Bhagwat Gita gives an answer when I was trying to

> understand it and get relief from my false sense of

responsibility.

> Sri Krishna is never in the front (face to face), He is always

> standing behind. By this way, He is UPDRASTA (looking from back).

He

> is like a projector operator in a cinema. He puts up the reel and

> the world as we see it comes before us, in the 3 dimensional

> realities. As a person watching that cinema, you cannot help

> yourself and just react. Sri Krishna watches you doing this

reaction

> against the sense of the cinema that is shown by Him from the back

> of you. If you are really clever and recognized this concept, you

> are a big success. After that Sri Krishna becomes ANUMANTA (or

giver

> of inner consent) to what ever you decide in your pure heart. That

> means, if you ask Him why things are not coming in the way it

should

> be, He will advise the course of action from the heart. In this

> position, you loose power to react because you now know the source

> of reality, and do not get angry on others, and remain free from

> bias. Sri Krishna will then turn into BHARTA (provider). You will

be

> very very surprised that by your changed behaviors, certain people

> that have never known you will get to know you. They will then

beg

> to become your clients or employers whether or not you have any

> usefulness to them or not. What ever you do, they will buy. In

this

> way, your family obligation and your own will be borne by Sri

> Krishna. For example, take a case of Ustad Bismilla Khan. He was

> playing Shahnayee (a little known music instrument) and this

became

> a source of his and his families' livelihood. Similarly it is

> happening with me. I have no skills, no knowledge and no behavior

> but I find my clients coming and giving me the work. I now

recognize

> my clients' true identity. And as a result, I take care of them

and

> do all that I can do. Because Sri Krishna is now a BHARTA. Food or

> income given by Sri Krishna in disguise of clients is actually

> staying with us, and I now have a house built that I could never

> have by hard work so far. When the Bhagwat Gita did not reveal me

> this knowledge, I was earning money but that was going down the

> drain. Very soon, all desires come to an end. Because any small

> thing given by Sri Krishna (by whatever means) is enough and

desires

> cannot raise their head, and leave you forever. When desires are

> fulfilled, Sri Krishna looses the job of a provider (BHARTA). He

> then becomes BHOKTA (consumer). The bhakta of Sri Krishna has no

> desire but He still has to live and work without any of His

desires.

> At this condition, He is interested in food made with nourishment

of

> deep love. He is hungry of love and the BHOKTA is looking for food

> that he can get only from his bhakta. Sri Krishna can travel from

> India to US to Brazil to wherever for a 100 mg of food of the

> Bhakta. This condition of Sri Krishna is called BHOKTA. He is

> looking for deep love wherever it is. He can buy, beg, borrow, or

> steal. He is BHOKTA or consumer of pure love. That bhakta with Sri

> Krishna as BHOKTA turns to be MAHESHWAR (Shiva – knower of

advita).

> I cannot writ about this state and beyond. From MAHESHWAR, Sri

> Krishna becomes PARAMATMA.

>

> Dear Ravi, you should look carefully every person or organization

> who gives you money, and respect. Suspect him as Sri Krishna. Take

> care of Him, He wants to take care of your family through you.

This

> is His duty that you are appointed to serve the family that you

now

> have from 6 billion people at the earth. If you once loose any of

> your children, you cannot find him/her in the world with 6 billion

> populations. To leave them, and be so called sanyasi is not what

> best service to Sri Krishna.. Had you a duty of a renunciate, Sri

> Krishna would never have given you a family and responsibility by

> Himself.

>

> Read this e-mail carefully, and read again till these are absorbed

> in your mind.

>

> Regards

>

> K G Misra

>

> , ravi chandra <m_ravi_chandra@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swamiji,

> >

> > I write this in response to the e-mail i received on

> > the subject '[sadhaka] Sense of Mine - The Root of

> > Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering (21.8.06)'.

> >

> > I now am father of two children and now have the

> > responsibility to care for their needs.

> >

> > Now my question is can i set aside the sense of mine

> > of my family and serve the society ? The ultimate

> > essense of the message is that a man must have a sense

> > of MY WRLD.

> >

> > If i now drop the sense of my family, who would care

> > for it?

> >

> > Is it that i must care for them as merely a sense of

> > responsibility?

> >

> > Kindly clarify.

> >

> > Pranam

> >

> > ATTACHED MESSAGE LINK :

> > Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering

> (21.8.06)

> > sadhaka/message/1331

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

`To remember Him' means, you are

trying to keep him in your mind, and it is a violence to imprison

Sri Krishna. "

 

NOW I AM CONFUSED--- THOROUGHLY, MISHRA JI, by your very abstract statement.

ordinary readers may get more confused.

 

RamKrishna is being remembered by his books and teachings, so is Valmiki ji

, TulasiDas etc.

LORD SAID: " always remember Me and do your duty "

 

 

 

 

-

" sadhak_insight " <sadhak_insight

 

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:50 AM

Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow and

Suffering

 

 

" Krishna Gopal Misra " <kg.com> Tue, 22 Aug 2006

 

Dear Ravi

 

Your e-mail is very similar to my own life. No body ever can read

the Bhagwat Gita rather Bhagwat Gita decides to read the person.

After minds gets inclination of Bhagwat Gita in pious way, our

choice ends. Bhagwat Gita is a fire and we are wood, and it is this

fire that has a capacity to transform any wood into light. Wood has

to just enter the fire, and if fire accepts it, condition of wood

will start changing. Please be assured that. Bhagwat Gita is

certainly mightier than us, and question of our responsibility is

never on us, but on the Sri Krishna. Very Simple.

 

This is a secret that I am going to tell you. Bhagwat Gita says that

only do those things for which you should not be remembered. For

example, Gandhi was doing hand weaving, or cleaning his toilet or

teaching children or taking care of the goat. These acts are

extremely simple and yet highly valuable and any one can run similar

life without any comparisons, and with peace. Gandhi did not try to

make Bhakra Dam or Nuclear power plant, or Taj Mehal. The secret is

that he was consciously doing only those things that people can

easily follow but needs not remember him. Had he done a complicated

or big job, people could not do it, and he was forced to be

remembered by others.

 

I give you another example. One of my relative has taken money from

me, and this was about 2 month of salary for me. He has no intention

to give it back. I therefore was forced to remember him. I realized

that the relative (who took the money) has forcibly occupying a seat

in my mind, and I was deprived of the money as well as forced to

give a space to him in my mind. Cost of a place in my mind is very

high, and I could not afford it. I forgot that loss and removed that

relative from the place in mind he was occupying.

 

Do not remember others nor be remembered by others. `To remember' is

called violence. If you do something wrong, taken money or delivered

a defective quality, you will certainly be remembered by others.

This way, your unwelcome entry to others' mind is called violence.

Similarly, some one unwelcome and yet entering your mind is a

violence that will certainly injure you. All our anxiety is caused

by inadequate memory filter.

 

How to apply this principle on Sri Krishna? If you remember Sri

Krishna, this is a attack on him. `To remember Him' means, you are

trying to keep him in your mind, and it is a violence to imprison

Sri Krishna. Once Sri Krishna is imprisoned by you, He cannot

certainly break it, and He has to finally organize your mind in a

way that he can live. And this way, your mind gets changed. And When

mind gets changed, He starts working though you and your

relationship and behaviors externally will change. You will always

try to see that He is inside your mind, and none else can enter it.

This clever way is best way for us.

 

Try this.

 

Regards

 

K G Misra

 

, " sadhak_insight "

<sadhak_insight wrote:

>

> " Krishna Gopal Misra " <kg

>

> FW: Suspect your employer as Sri Krishna ( UPDRASTA-

> ANUMANTA- BHARTA- BHOKTA- MAHESWAR - PARMESHWAR)

> Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:35:03

>

> Dear Ravi

>

> Your question in your e-mail is what is related to my life

> experience.

>

> Family responsibility is also an important duty to Sri Krishna.

This

> is His job that you do as a custodian. Your child or any bodies'

> child is really no different. When you say that it is `your'

child,

> this is an attachment and a cause of the sorrow, and pleasure and

> fear. Treat your child, and your employers, and neighbors as

> manifestation of Sri Krishna and co-exist with all of them in

> perfect balance. You cannot be held responsible for any one of

your

> actions for action towards others because you cannot really

control

> rest of the world. You are just a delivery boy and the entire

system

> runs the way it is designed, with or without you.

>

> Sri Krishna in Bhagwat Gita gives an answer when I was trying to

> understand it and get relief from my false sense of

responsibility.

> Sri Krishna is never in the front (face to face), He is always

> standing behind. By this way, He is UPDRASTA (looking from back).

He

> is like a projector operator in a cinema. He puts up the reel and

> the world as we see it comes before us, in the 3 dimensional

> realities. As a person watching that cinema, you cannot help

> yourself and just react. Sri Krishna watches you doing this

reaction

> against the sense of the cinema that is shown by Him from the back

> of you. If you are really clever and recognized this concept, you

> are a big success. After that Sri Krishna becomes ANUMANTA (or

giver

> of inner consent) to what ever you decide in your pure heart. That

> means, if you ask Him why things are not coming in the way it

should

> be, He will advise the course of action from the heart. In this

> position, you loose power to react because you now know the source

> of reality, and do not get angry on others, and remain free from

> bias. Sri Krishna will then turn into BHARTA (provider). You will

be

> very very surprised that by your changed behaviors, certain people

> that have never known you will get to know you. They will then

beg

> to become your clients or employers whether or not you have any

> usefulness to them or not. What ever you do, they will buy. In

this

> way, your family obligation and your own will be borne by Sri

> Krishna. For example, take a case of Ustad Bismilla Khan. He was

> playing Shahnayee (a little known music instrument) and this

became

> a source of his and his families' livelihood. Similarly it is

> happening with me. I have no skills, no knowledge and no behavior

> but I find my clients coming and giving me the work. I now

recognize

> my clients' true identity. And as a result, I take care of them

and

> do all that I can do. Because Sri Krishna is now a BHARTA. Food or

> income given by Sri Krishna in disguise of clients is actually

> staying with us, and I now have a house built that I could never

> have by hard work so far. When the Bhagwat Gita did not reveal me

> this knowledge, I was earning money but that was going down the

> drain. Very soon, all desires come to an end. Because any small

> thing given by Sri Krishna (by whatever means) is enough and

desires

> cannot raise their head, and leave you forever. When desires are

> fulfilled, Sri Krishna looses the job of a provider (BHARTA). He

> then becomes BHOKTA (consumer). The bhakta of Sri Krishna has no

> desire but He still has to live and work without any of His

desires.

> At this condition, He is interested in food made with nourishment

of

> deep love. He is hungry of love and the BHOKTA is looking for food

> that he can get only from his bhakta. Sri Krishna can travel from

> India to US to Brazil to wherever for a 100 mg of food of the

> Bhakta. This condition of Sri Krishna is called BHOKTA. He is

> looking for deep love wherever it is. He can buy, beg, borrow, or

> steal. He is BHOKTA or consumer of pure love. That bhakta with Sri

> Krishna as BHOKTA turns to be MAHESHWAR (Shiva - knower of

advita).

> I cannot writ about this state and beyond. From MAHESHWAR, Sri

> Krishna becomes PARAMATMA.

>

> Dear Ravi, you should look carefully every person or organization

> who gives you money, and respect. Suspect him as Sri Krishna. Take

> care of Him, He wants to take care of your family through you.

This

> is His duty that you are appointed to serve the family that you

now

> have from 6 billion people at the earth. If you once loose any of

> your children, you cannot find him/her in the world with 6 billion

> populations. To leave them, and be so called sanyasi is not what

> best service to Sri Krishna.. Had you a duty of a renunciate, Sri

> Krishna would never have given you a family and responsibility by

> Himself.

>

> Read this e-mail carefully, and read again till these are absorbed

> in your mind.

>

> Regards

>

> K G Misra

>

> , ravi chandra <m_ravi_chandra@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swamiji,

> >

> > I write this in response to the e-mail i received on

> > the subject '[sadhaka] Sense of Mine - The Root of

> > Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering (21.8.06)'.

> >

> > I now am father of two children and now have the

> > responsibility to care for their needs.

> >

> > Now my question is can i set aside the sense of mine

> > of my family and serve the society ? The ultimate

> > essense of the message is that a man must have a sense

> > of MY WRLD.

> >

> > If i now drop the sense of my family, who would care

> > for it?

> >

> > Is it that i must care for them as merely a sense of

> > responsibility?

> >

> > Kindly clarify.

> >

> > Pranam

> >

> > ATTACHED MESSAGE LINK :

> > Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering

> (21.8.06)

> > sadhaka/message/1331

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sirs;

May Sri Krishna be very kind on you and I am given this honor to write

this very secret. Please read it carefully.

 

Every one of us has nothing, nothing except his/her memory. That exactly

means, that 'I am what my memory is'. If I get injured in accident and

my memory fails, I will also loose my identity including my house,

family, income and so on.

 

In other words, our existence is identified not by our finger print or

PAN card but by a unique plot in memory-land. Like a vacant plot, we

quickly build a house of ego on this. This house is very nice but,

before we die we must also remove this encroachment. If not we are

hunted by unfinished 'karma' of the previous life or problem of

'encroachment of the memory'.

 

Memory is what we are, and nothing else. If some one unwelcome is trying

to enter in my plot in memory-land, I cannot stop. Also if some body

remembers me, I cannot stop. In that condition, I want that neither any

one nor do I, enter in each others mind. Only, this is called non

violence. Non violence is basis of equality, peace, and love and

detachment. That is a secret why do 'big people (like Gandhi) do always

small things. And only small people (like you and me, Bin Laden or Bush

or Nehru) do big things, and forcing others to remember them. Cost of

removing the encroachment is much higher because construction of ego on

our memory is huge, and also in others' memory.

 

Remembering Sri Krishna means, He is a visitor to your memory-house.

Even at His first visit, you became luckiest person on the earth and

life is success. Merely retaining Him in memory is enough; and you keep

working whatever you do, like a mother keeps child while she does every

thing. Just by this simple technique, Sri Krishna gets imprisoned in

your memory, and cannot escape your mun (memory-house). He will then

have no choice except to organize this shabbily kept memory-house for

His purposes, and al knowledge will naturally be known to you

effortlessly. You then become a MunDir. In Sanskrit, 'MunDar' (or in

English temple) is a place of Sri Krishna in the Mun of His devotee.

MunDar is not made by bricks and concrete, it is always inside the Mun

or your memory-house.

 

How Sri Krishna can be stopped from moving out of your Mun, He himself

in Article 7 of Chapter 8 of Sri Mad Bhagwat Gita says

 

TASTAT SARVESHU KALESHU MANNuSMAR YUDHYA CH

MAIARPIT MANO BUDHYA MAMEVAISHASYA SANSHAYAM

 

Keep Me in your memory, every time; and do you work.

This way, your Mun and Buddhi is serving Me, and this certainly (without

doubt) makes Me to stay in it.

 

Sri Krishna slowly makes this MunDir as His own house or becomes a owner

of your MUN (memory-house). Your Buddhi (intellect) then is housewife in

that house and does the cleaning, and house keeping, and not allows

others (expect for friends and Bhakta of Sri Krishna) to come-in. This

is how Sri Krishna gets pleased.

 

 

K G Misra

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Gita Society

Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:10 AM

 

Re: Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow

and Suffering

 

`To remember Him' means, you are

trying to keep him in your mind, and it is a violence to imprison

Sri Krishna. "

 

NOW I AM CONFUSED--- THOROUGHLY, MISHRA JI, by your very abstract

statement.

ordinary readers may get more confused.

 

RamKrishna is being remembered by his books and teachings, so is Valmiki

ji

, TulasiDas etc.

LORD SAID: " always remember Me and do your duty "

 

 

 

 

-

" sadhak_insight " <sadhak_insight

 

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:50 AM

Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow and

 

Suffering

 

 

" Krishna Gopal Misra " <kg.com> Tue, 22 Aug 2006

 

Dear Ravi

 

Your e-mail is very similar to my own life. No body ever can read

the Bhagwat Gita rather Bhagwat Gita decides to read the person.

After minds gets inclination of Bhagwat Gita in pious way, our

choice ends. Bhagwat Gita is a fire and we are wood, and it is this

fire that has a capacity to transform any wood into light. Wood has

to just enter the fire, and if fire accepts it, condition of wood

will start changing. Please be assured that. Bhagwat Gita is

certainly mightier than us, and question of our responsibility is

never on us, but on the Sri Krishna. Very Simple.

 

This is a secret that I am going to tell you. Bhagwat Gita says that

only do those things for which you should not be remembered. For

example, Gandhi was doing hand weaving, or cleaning his toilet or

teaching children or taking care of the goat. These acts are

extremely simple and yet highly valuable and any one can run similar

life without any comparisons, and with peace. Gandhi did not try to

make Bhakra Dam or Nuclear power plant, or Taj Mehal. The secret is

that he was consciously doing only those things that people can

easily follow but needs not remember him. Had he done a complicated

or big job, people could not do it, and he was forced to be

remembered by others.

 

I give you another example. One of my relative has taken money from

me, and this was about 2 month of salary for me. He has no intention

to give it back. I therefore was forced to remember him. I realized

that the relative (who took the money) has forcibly occupying a seat

in my mind, and I was deprived of the money as well as forced to

give a space to him in my mind. Cost of a place in my mind is very

high, and I could not afford it. I forgot that loss and removed that

relative from the place in mind he was occupying.

 

Do not remember others nor be remembered by others. `To remember' is

called violence. If you do something wrong, taken money or delivered

a defective quality, you will certainly be remembered by others.

This way, your unwelcome entry to others' mind is called violence.

Similarly, some one unwelcome and yet entering your mind is a

violence that will certainly injure you. All our anxiety is caused

by inadequate memory filter.

 

How to apply this principle on Sri Krishna? If you remember Sri

Krishna, this is a attack on him. `To remember Him' means, you are

trying to keep him in your mind, and it is a violence to imprison

Sri Krishna. Once Sri Krishna is imprisoned by you, He cannot

certainly break it, and He has to finally organize your mind in a

way that he can live. And this way, your mind gets changed. And When

mind gets changed, He starts working though you and your

relationship and behaviors externally will change. You will always

try to see that He is inside your mind, and none else can enter it.

This clever way is best way for us.

 

Try this.

 

Regards

 

K G Misra

 

, " sadhak_insight "

<sadhak_insight wrote:

>

> " Krishna Gopal Misra " <kg

>

> FW: Suspect your employer as Sri Krishna ( UPDRASTA-

> ANUMANTA- BHARTA- BHOKTA- MAHESWAR - PARMESHWAR)

> Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:35:03

>

> Dear Ravi

>

> Your question in your e-mail is what is related to my life

> experience.

>

> Family responsibility is also an important duty to Sri Krishna.

This

> is His job that you do as a custodian. Your child or any bodies'

> child is really no different. When you say that it is `your'

child,

> this is an attachment and a cause of the sorrow, and pleasure and

> fear. Treat your child, and your employers, and neighbors as

> manifestation of Sri Krishna and co-exist with all of them in

> perfect balance. You cannot be held responsible for any one of

your

> actions for action towards others because you cannot really

control

> rest of the world. You are just a delivery boy and the entire

system

> runs the way it is designed, with or without you.

>

> Sri Krishna in Bhagwat Gita gives an answer when I was trying to

> understand it and get relief from my false sense of

responsibility.

> Sri Krishna is never in the front (face to face), He is always

> standing behind. By this way, He is UPDRASTA (looking from back).

He

> is like a projector operator in a cinema. He puts up the reel and

> the world as we see it comes before us, in the 3 dimensional

> realities. As a person watching that cinema, you cannot help

> yourself and just react. Sri Krishna watches you doing this

reaction

> against the sense of the cinema that is shown by Him from the back

> of you. If you are really clever and recognized this concept, you

> are a big success. After that Sri Krishna becomes ANUMANTA (or

giver

> of inner consent) to what ever you decide in your pure heart. That

> means, if you ask Him why things are not coming in the way it

should

> be, He will advise the course of action from the heart. In this

> position, you loose power to react because you now know the source

> of reality, and do not get angry on others, and remain free from

> bias. Sri Krishna will then turn into BHARTA (provider). You will

be

> very very surprised that by your changed behaviors, certain people

> that have never known you will get to know you. They will then

beg

> to become your clients or employers whether or not you have any

> usefulness to them or not. What ever you do, they will buy. In

this

> way, your family obligation and your own will be borne by Sri

> Krishna. For example, take a case of Ustad Bismilla Khan. He was

> playing Shahnayee (a little known music instrument) and this

became

> a source of his and his families' livelihood. Similarly it is

> happening with me. I have no skills, no knowledge and no behavior

> but I find my clients coming and giving me the work. I now

recognize

> my clients' true identity. And as a result, I take care of them

and

> do all that I can do. Because Sri Krishna is now a BHARTA. Food or

> income given by Sri Krishna in disguise of clients is actually

> staying with us, and I now have a house built that I could never

> have by hard work so far. When the Bhagwat Gita did not reveal me

> this knowledge, I was earning money but that was going down the

> drain. Very soon, all desires come to an end. Because any small

> thing given by Sri Krishna (by whatever means) is enough and

desires

> cannot raise their head, and leave you forever. When desires are

> fulfilled, Sri Krishna looses the job of a provider (BHARTA). He

> then becomes BHOKTA (consumer). The bhakta of Sri Krishna has no

> desire but He still has to live and work without any of His

desires.

> At this condition, He is interested in food made with nourishment

of

> deep love. He is hungry of love and the BHOKTA is looking for food

> that he can get only from his bhakta. Sri Krishna can travel from

> India to US to Brazil to wherever for a 100 mg of food of the

> Bhakta. This condition of Sri Krishna is called BHOKTA. He is

> looking for deep love wherever it is. He can buy, beg, borrow, or

> steal. He is BHOKTA or consumer of pure love. That bhakta with Sri

> Krishna as BHOKTA turns to be MAHESHWAR (Shiva - knower of

advita).

> I cannot writ about this state and beyond. From MAHESHWAR, Sri

> Krishna becomes PARAMATMA.

>

> Dear Ravi, you should look carefully every person or organization

> who gives you money, and respect. Suspect him as Sri Krishna. Take

> care of Him, He wants to take care of your family through you.

This

> is His duty that you are appointed to serve the family that you

now

> have from 6 billion people at the earth. If you once loose any of

> your children, you cannot find him/her in the world with 6 billion

> populations. To leave them, and be so called sanyasi is not what

> best service to Sri Krishna.. Had you a duty of a renunciate, Sri

> Krishna would never have given you a family and responsibility by

> Himself.

>

> Read this e-mail carefully, and read again till these are absorbed

> in your mind.

>

> Regards

>

> K G Misra

>

> , ravi chandra <m_ravi_chandra@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swamiji,

> >

> > I write this in response to the e-mail i received on

> > the subject '[sadhaka] Sense of Mine - The Root of

> > Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering (21.8.06)'.

> >

> > I now am father of two children and now have the

> > responsibility to care for their needs.

> >

> > Now my question is can i set aside the sense of mine

> > of my family and serve the society ? The ultimate

> > essense of the message is that a man must have a sense

> > of MY WRLD.

> >

> > If i now drop the sense of my family, who would care

> > for it?

> >

> > Is it that i must care for them as merely a sense of

> > responsibility?

> >

> > Kindly clarify.

> >

> > Pranam

> >

> > ATTACHED MESSAGE LINK :

> > Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering

> (21.8.06)

> > sadhaka/message/1331

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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The real conclusion is to always keep Shree Krishna in your heart by the power of love. Such love can control the Supreme Controller. AvadhootGita Society <sanjay wrote: `To remember Him' means, you aretrying to keep him in your mind, and it is a violence to imprisonSri Krishna. "NOW I AM CONFUSED--- THOROUGHLY, MISHRA JI, by your very abstract statement. ordinary readers may get more confused.RamKrishna is being remembered by

his books and teachings, so is Valmiki ji , TulasiDas etc.LORD SAID: "always remember Me and do your duty"- "sadhak_insight" <sadhak_insight >Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:50 AM Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering"Krishna Gopal Misra" <kg.com> Tue, 22 Aug 2006Dear RaviYour e-mail is very similar to my own life. No body ever can readthe Bhagwat Gita rather Bhagwat Gita decides to read the person.After minds gets inclination of Bhagwat Gita in pious way, ourchoice ends. Bhagwat Gita is a fire and we are wood, and it is thisfire that has a capacity to transform any wood into light. Wood hasto just enter the fire, and if fire accepts it,

condition of woodwill start changing. Please be assured that. Bhagwat Gita iscertainly mightier than us, and question of our responsibility isnever on us, but on the Sri Krishna. Very Simple.This is a secret that I am going to tell you. Bhagwat Gita says thatonly do those things for which you should not be remembered. Forexample, Gandhi was doing hand weaving, or cleaning his toilet orteaching children or taking care of the goat. These acts areextremely simple and yet highly valuable and any one can run similarlife without any comparisons, and with peace. Gandhi did not try tomake Bhakra Dam or Nuclear power plant, or Taj Mehal. The secret isthat he was consciously doing only those things that people caneasily follow but needs not remember him. Had he done a complicatedor big job, people could not do it, and he was forced to beremembered by others.I give you another example. One of my relative has taken

money fromme, and this was about 2 month of salary for me. He has no intentionto give it back. I therefore was forced to remember him. I realizedthat the relative (who took the money) has forcibly occupying a seatin my mind, and I was deprived of the money as well as forced togive a space to him in my mind. Cost of a place in my mind is veryhigh, and I could not afford it. I forgot that loss and removed thatrelative from the place in mind he was occupying.Do not remember others nor be remembered by others. `To remember' iscalled violence. If you do something wrong, taken money or delivereda defective quality, you will certainly be remembered by others.This way, your unwelcome entry to others' mind is called violence.Similarly, some one unwelcome and yet entering your mind is aviolence that will certainly injure you. All our anxiety is causedby inadequate memory filter.How to apply this principle on Sri

Krishna? If you remember SriKrishna, this is a attack on him. `To remember Him' means, you aretrying to keep him in your mind, and it is a violence to imprisonSri Krishna. Once Sri Krishna is imprisoned by you, He cannotcertainly break it, and He has to finally organize your mind in away that he can live. And this way, your mind gets changed. And Whenmind gets changed, He starts working though you and yourrelationship and behaviors externally will change. You will alwaystry to see that He is inside your mind, and none else can enter it.This clever way is best way for us.Try this.RegardsK G Misra , "sadhak_insight"<sadhak_insight wrote:>> "Krishna Gopal Misra" <kg>> FW: Suspect your employer as Sri Krishna ( UPDRASTA-> ANUMANTA- BHARTA- BHOKTA-

MAHESWAR - PARMESHWAR)> Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:35:03>> Dear Ravi>> Your question in your e-mail is what is related to my life> experience.>> Family responsibility is also an important duty to Sri Krishna.This> is His job that you do as a custodian. Your child or any bodies'> child is really no different. When you say that it is `your'child,> this is an attachment and a cause of the sorrow, and pleasure and> fear. Treat your child, and your employers, and neighbors as> manifestation of Sri Krishna and co-exist with all of them in> perfect balance. You cannot be held responsible for any one ofyour> actions for action towards others because you cannot reallycontrol> rest of the world. You are just a delivery boy and the entiresystem> runs the way it is designed, with or without you.>> Sri Krishna in Bhagwat Gita gives an

answer when I was trying to> understand it and get relief from my false sense ofresponsibility.> Sri Krishna is never in the front (face to face), He is always> standing behind. By this way, He is UPDRASTA (looking from back).He> is like a projector operator in a cinema. He puts up the reel and> the world as we see it comes before us, in the 3 dimensional> realities. As a person watching that cinema, you cannot help> yourself and just react. Sri Krishna watches you doing thisreaction> against the sense of the cinema that is shown by Him from the back> of you. If you are really clever and recognized this concept, you> are a big success. After that Sri Krishna becomes ANUMANTA (orgiver> of inner consent) to what ever you decide in your pure heart. That> means, if you ask Him why things are not coming in the way itshould> be, He will advise the course of action from

the heart. In this> position, you loose power to react because you now know the source> of reality, and do not get angry on others, and remain free from> bias. Sri Krishna will then turn into BHARTA (provider). You willbe> very very surprised that by your changed behaviors, certain people> that have never known you will get to know you. They will thenbeg> to become your clients or employers whether or not you have any> usefulness to them or not. What ever you do, they will buy. Inthis> way, your family obligation and your own will be borne by Sri> Krishna. For example, take a case of Ustad Bismilla Khan. He was> playing Shahnayee (a little known music instrument) and thisbecame> a source of his and his families' livelihood. Similarly it is> happening with me. I have no skills, no knowledge and no behavior> but I find my clients coming and giving me the work. I

nowrecognize> my clients' true identity. And as a result, I take care of themand> do all that I can do. Because Sri Krishna is now a BHARTA. Food or> income given by Sri Krishna in disguise of clients is actually> staying with us, and I now have a house built that I could never> have by hard work so far. When the Bhagwat Gita did not reveal me> this knowledge, I was earning money but that was going down the> drain. Very soon, all desires come to an end. Because any small> thing given by Sri Krishna (by whatever means) is enough anddesires> cannot raise their head, and leave you forever. When desires are> fulfilled, Sri Krishna looses the job of a provider (BHARTA). He> then becomes BHOKTA (consumer). The bhakta of Sri Krishna has no> desire but He still has to live and work without any of Hisdesires.> At this condition, He is interested in food made with

nourishmentof> deep love. He is hungry of love and the BHOKTA is looking for food> that he can get only from his bhakta. Sri Krishna can travel from> India to US to Brazil to wherever for a 100 mg of food of the> Bhakta. This condition of Sri Krishna is called BHOKTA. He is> looking for deep love wherever it is. He can buy, beg, borrow, or> steal. He is BHOKTA or consumer of pure love. That bhakta with Sri> Krishna as BHOKTA turns to be MAHESHWAR (Shiva - knower ofadvita).> I cannot writ about this state and beyond. From MAHESHWAR, Sri> Krishna becomes PARAMATMA.>> Dear Ravi, you should look carefully every person or organization> who gives you money, and respect. Suspect him as Sri Krishna. Take> care of Him, He wants to take care of your family through you.This> is His duty that you are appointed to serve the family that younow> have from 6 billion

people at the earth. If you once loose any of> your children, you cannot find him/her in the world with 6 billion> populations. To leave them, and be so called sanyasi is not what> best service to Sri Krishna.. Had you a duty of a renunciate, Sri> Krishna would never have given you a family and responsibility by> Himself.>> Read this e-mail carefully, and read again till these are absorbed> in your mind.>> Regards>> K G Misra>> , ravi chandra <m_ravi_chandra@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Swamiji,> >> > I write this in response to the e-mail i received on> > the subject '[sadhaka] Sense of Mine - The Root of> > Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering (21.8.06)'.> >> > I now am father of two children and now have

the> > responsibility to care for their needs.> >> > Now my question is can i set aside the sense of mine> > of my family and serve the society ? The ultimate> > essense of the message is that a man must have a sense> > of MY WRLD.> >> > If i now drop the sense of my family, who would care> > for it?> >> > Is it that i must care for them as merely a sense of> > responsibility?> >> > Kindly clarify.> >> > Pranam> >> > ATTACHED MESSAGE LINK :> > Sense of Mine - The Root of Selfishness, Sorrow and Suffering> (21.8.06)> > sadhaka/message/1331> >> >> >> >> >> >

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