Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Ram Ram, I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that" Vasudevam Sarvam Idam" means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai" means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. Thanks Raj Kumar Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Namaste Parth , Apke prasno ka uttar kuch aise diya ja sakta hai.. Jab tak apne shaadi nahin ki hoti .. tab tak aap maya mein rehte hain. Shaadi ke baad bas bhagwan hi sahara hota hai.:-))) Bahot si cheezein aisi hai jo apan wastavik roop usko prapt kar lene ke baad hi sach batati hai. Yahi maya hai... Jis din apne Iswar prapt kar liya .. maya samapt. Iswar sab ke anadar niwas karta hai.. jaise ek bichda hua pyar. Ab aap ke oopar hai ... kya chahte hain. Nakaratmat soch ko nadi mein baha aaiye phir lijiye maje .... -"Raj Kumar monga" Subject: Is it Vasudeva Sarvam ? or Is it Maya?Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Ram Ram, I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that" Vasudevam Sarvam Idam" means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai" means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. Thanks Raj Kumar Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. -- _____________ India.com free e-mail - www.india.com Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for mail storage, POP3, e-mail forwarding, and ads-free mailboxes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Dear Raj Kumar, I think that we cannot separate God from anything. ‘Maya’ itself is the manifestation of God. Regards S.Krishnan On Behalf Of Raj Kumar monga 24 August 2006 09:11 Is it Vasudeva Sarvam ? or Is it Maya? Ram Ram, I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that " Vasudevam Sarvam Idam " means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai " means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. Thanks Raj Kumar Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Ram Ram When one is established in Atma, one will have the experience of ' Vasudevam sarvam idam'. Atma is 'gunaateeta' - beyond gunas and gunas are in the realm of maya. So, the world is maya for those that are caught up in maya. But those that are established in Atma, see beyond maya and KNOW the all pervading reality of Vasudeva on the level of EXPERIENCE - not just on the level of intellect or thinking. How to get established in Atma ? With meditation. One easy technique is Transcendental Meditation , as taught by Maharshi Mahesh Yogi. Millions have had the experience of Atma and with regular practise of TM, one gets established in Atma at all times. This is called as Cosmic consciousness or jeevanmukti. Hema reddyRaj Kumar monga <mongarajkumar wrote: Ram Ram, I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that" Vasudevam Sarvam Idam" means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai" means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. Thanks Raj Kumar Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Jai Shree Krishna In this verse of the Gita 7.19 'Vaasudeva' means the son of Vasudeva or the husband of Devaki. Thus, after many births one who is in perfect knowledge surrenders to Krishna, knowing Him to be all that is. Thus the atma is established in love with Paramatma for ever and goes on to live with Him and continue to serve Him [Vaasudeva] after liberation. AvadhootHema Reddy <hemareddy55 wrote: Ram Ram When one is established in Atma, one will have the experience of ' Vasudevam sarvam idam'. Atma is 'gunaateeta' - beyond gunas and gunas are in the realm of maya. So, the world is maya for those that are caught up in maya. But those that are established in Atma, see beyond maya and KNOW the all pervading reality of Vasudeva on the level of EXPERIENCE - not just on the level of intellect or thinking. How to get established in Atma ? With meditation. One easy technique is Transcendental Meditation , as taught by Maharshi Mahesh Yogi. Millions have had the experience of Atma and with regular practise of TM, one gets established in Atma at all times. This is called as Cosmic consciousness or jeevanmukti. Hema reddyRaj Kumar monga <mongarajkumar > wrote: Ram Ram, I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that" Vasudevam Sarvam Idam" means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai" means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. Thanks Raj Kumar Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Dear Raj Kumar Love and Love alone.... The following conversation between Lord Rama and His Bhakta Hanuman should clear your doubt. On being asked by Rama what he thought of him, Hanuman said: dehabuddhyA tu dAso.haM jIvabuddhyA tvada.nshakaH | AtmabuddhyA tvamevAhaM iti me nishchitA matiH || When I am conscious of my body, I am Thy servant. When aware of myself, I am a part of Thine. When I know my essence, I am verily Thyself. This is my certain belief. Love and Love alone.... P. Gopi Krishna On 8/24/06, Raj Kumar monga <mongarajkumar wrote: Ram Ram, I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that " Vasudevam Sarvam Idam " means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai " means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. Thanks Raj Kumar Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. -- Paritala Gopi Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 MESSAGE MODIFIED BY MODERATOR Dear Soul; Maya and Jeeva are God's energy. Just like milk is the energy of the cow. Milk is not the cow, but it is the essence of the cow. Maya is not exactly God but at the same time it is His expression. But why is there Maya? Why is there illusion if God wants us to be with Him? Because the 'jeeva' or soul has independence to serve one or the other. By serving Maya we loose our divine connection and become displaced. Maya means that which is not real. It is a temporary illusion placed on those who are weak. A strong jeeva will cross over Maya by surrendering himself or herself to the Supreme Lord as Krishna says in chapter 7 verse 14 of the Gita. We cannot conquer Maya on our own. Maya is too strong an energy. She executes the thankless task of punishing the individual soul until such time as that soul comes to realize that all his attempts at enjoyment only result in suffering. Therefore, we should understand that we , the soul, can only 'enjoy' in a transcendental relationship with the Supreme Soul, Krishna. That relationship can be evoked only by the mercy of God / Sat Guru. Blessings and instructions will come to you on how to get free from the fetters of the witch called, Maya. When Maya sees that now this soul is connected properly with my Master, then she will no longer bother you. You are then free and liberated by the grace of Lord Shree Krishna. Hari bol, Avadhoot > On 8/24/06, Raj Kumar monga <mongarajkumar wrote: > > > > Ram Ram, > > > > I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that " > > Vasudevam Sarvam Idam " means every thing you are perceiving through your > > eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram > > Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, > > so sab maya jano bhai " means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, > > senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of > > confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make > > it clear. > > > > Thanks > > Raj Kumar > > > > ------------------------------ > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com <http:///>. Check it > > out. <http://us.rd./evt=42974/*http://www./preview> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Paritala Gopi Krishna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 " sadhakramesh " <sadhakramesh Ram Ram, Raj Kumar ji sprem Hari smaran, IN ENGLISH The question that you have asked is an extremely good one. First and the foremost we must see the situations and circumstances surrounding the questions and responses must be delivered accordingly. In Ramayan, Lord Laxmanji for the benefit of all mankind poses questions to Lord Rama to reveal divine knowledge. Lord, please explain to me about Knowledge (Jnana), Detachment (vairag), God's Illusory powers (Maya) and Devotion (Bhakti)? With reference to Maya, Lord Rama said " Go gochar janha.... " And in Gitaji, in Chapter 7, God talks about the four types of devotees, in that he speaks of the Jnani bhakta (devotee) the one who sees God in everyone, " Vasudeva Sarvam iti sa mahatma sudurlabhaH " God calls such a devotee a rarity. So these two spiritual practices have been shared for one's salvation. The Ramayan verse is for those that have a greater inclination towards " Me " and " Mine-ness " , the influence of the world is quite strongly taken hold on them, there is greater importance given to the world, to such individuals it is said - Brother, whatever it is that comes to your mind, where ever your mind goes, whatever is experienced with the senses, it is all destructible and impermanent. This is the essential nature of Maya. Therefore rise above it, do not give importance to it, do not consider it your very own, then the attachment to these temporary will break away. You will develop detachment, and inturn the essential divine knowledge (Jnana) as well as, devotion for God will be develop. The glories of this have been expressed by Lord - " Jate begi dravau mai bhai,so mam bhagati sukhdai. " And in Gitaji verse, the importance and emphasis is on the devotee with a simple, straight-forward heart, that has strong faith and belief in God. For such a simple straightforward devotee, God reveals to Arjunji - to see Him (God) in Everyone. Swamiji Maharaj(Swami Shree Ramsukhdasji Maharaj)used to say that until a devotee gives importance to the world, till then " Everything is God, " but once the devotee's sight is only on God, then " There is only God " . It is " God and God alone " There is no other reality. Only " You and You alone. " " God and only God. " Therefore my loving brother, these two spiritual practices are here, whatever practice seems appropriate that you are inclined towards, you must follow that practice and attain salvation. Yours Ramesh Dass IN HINDI Aap shree ne jo prashn kiya hai,vah bahut badhiya hai. Sabase pahele hamko yeh dekhana chahiye ki kis prasang kahi,aur kanha ,kisake samane kahi gai hai? Yeh sab dekhana chahiye. Yanha Ramayan me Shree Ramji ke samane Laxman ji aapani aur se ham sab Jivonka pratinidhitva karate hua Panchavati me jigyasa pragat karate hai ki Prabhu muje Gyan,Vairagya,Maaya aur Bhakti ke bare me bataiye. Atah Maaya ke bare me batate huye Ramji ne yah bat kahi ki " Go gochar janha….. " Aur Gitaji ke Satave adhyay me char prakar ke bhakto ke bare me batate huye jo Gyani bhakt ke bare me bat karte huye aise durlabh Mahata ke bare me batate hai jo sab me mera darshan karta hai. " VasudevaH sarvam eti sa mahatma sudurlabhaH " . To yeh dono sadhan hai apane kalyan ke liye.Ramayan vali chopai me ,jisake under mai,mera pane ka bhav jyada hai,jagat ki satta usake dilodimag me jyada pakad jamai hui hai,sansar me jyada mahatva budhhi hai aise sadhako ke liye kaha hai ki bhai aap ke man me jo aaye,janha aapaka man jay,jo bhi endriyo ke anubhav me aave ; yeh sab nashvan hai,kshanbhangur hai,yahi Maya ka swarup hai.atah unse uper utho,unako utana mahatva nahi do,apana mat mano.to aapko es nashvan se moh mamta tutakar Vairagya peda hoga aur Gyan ka uday hoga,Prabhu ki bhakti ki prapti hogi.jisaki mahima batate huye Prabhu kahate hai ki " Jate begi dravau mai bhai,so mam bhagati sukhdai. " Aur Gitaji me jo saral hraday ke,jinake hraday me Shradhha-vishvas ka pradhanya hai.aise saral sadhako ke liye yeh sadhan Bhagvan Arjunji ke samane batate hai ki sab me mera darshan kare.Aur Swamiji Maharaj(Swami Shree Ramsukhdasji Maharaj)kahate the ki jab tak sadhak ke hraday me sarvam ki satta hai tab tak `VasudevaH Sarvam'hai,nahi to keval Vasudev hi Vsudev hai.dusari koi satta hai hi nahi..keval Tu hi Tu…Prabhu hi Prabhu…!!! Esaliye mere pyare bhaiya yah dono sadhan hai,jo jis sadhak ko anukul pade ,vah sadhan ke anusar chalakar apana kalyan kare…astu.. Aapaka Ramesh Dass , Raj Kumar monga <mongarajkumar wrote: > > Ram Ram, > > I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that " Vasudevam Sarvam " means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai " means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. > > Thanks > Raj Kumar > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Loving Divine, Pranam. I am going to share my understanding based on Baba's teaching again... There are mainly two approach to understand God: 1) Neti Neti..., means not this not this, the exclusive approach as Shri Ram took as discussed in Ram Charitmanas 2) Eti Eti..., means it is God, the inclusive approach as Shri Kirshna discussed in Gitaji But they both are the two sides of the same coin, two ends of a pencil, one and the same at subtle level, even though apparently they look different. Neti - Neti... For example, once Baba explained in detail the 6 verses of Shri Adi Shankar's song - Chidananda roopa Shivoham, Shivoham Mano buddhyahankara chittani naham Na cha shrotra jihve, na cha ghrana netre ... Can I really say I am my mind or intelligence? Can I say I am the seses or panchtattava or the panchavayu? All of these belongs to me that means I am not them. Can I say I am my car or house, etc.? No they really belong to me so who am I? When I exclude like this - not this, not this then whatever remains is 'I' or 'God' or 'Shiva' and That I am. But what happens with us is that we get so engrossed in these objects, literally lost and forget our true identity who I am that's why it is called Maya - establishing wrong identity with the object that belongs to me, e.g., body is a perfect example - it belongs to me, I am not my body but we think I am body. Eti - Eti...For anything to exist, creator has to be present. In every creation, the creator is subtly present - leaving his/her mark or impresson. As Swamiji Maharaj has been saying that everything seems to be existing is only because the existence is present in them. All of our senses are working only because the subtle, the essence, the mahat-tattva is present in them. Do you think we can taste food because of our tongue? No, there is something that is poured into our tongue by God that allows it to taste. Same thing for all senses. If we go subtler, we can find God's presence or consciousness or subtle energy present in everything that exist - even in stone. Just like the same fire is present in stone/wood/water but we can't see it!!! Just like butter is present in every drop of milk, just like oil is present in every sesame seed like that some level of latent or potential or active consciousness is present in every single atom of the universe at its infinite level - including creation and non creation level. Because of this all pervasive presence of this energy, it is considered everything being God at its subtlest level. If we climb the mountain, only one color of the valley exist, i.e., greenery, without different shades of green color noticed at the valley or lower level. So even though it is Maya, it can not exist without Mayadhar, i.e., Lord. So these are just different angles at looking at the very same thing. Most commonly used example is a glass half filled with water. Some will say glass is half full. Some will say glass is half empty. People like my Babaji will say glass is always full - half with water and half with air. So aren't they all correct on their perspective? It really depends on how you perceive IT. So it is viewing from multi-dimensional aspect but the object remains the same. A rose is seen by a lover, poet, scientist, cow, painter varies but it is still the same rose, isn't it? Similarly Ram Charitmanas and Gitaji took two different approach to explain the same thing - God! Hope it helps, love. always at Thy All Pervading Feet On 8/24/06, Raj Kumar monga <mongarajkumar wrote: Ram Ram, I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that " Vasudevam Sarvam Idam " means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai " means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. Thanks Raj Kumar Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 FROM: Krishna Gopal Misra " <kg Dear Sadhak Maya and Krishna is one, and inseparable. World (anything of experiences) is dependent on the observer (you). It is a creation of mind. Following is spoken words of Max Plank when accepting the Noel Prize of Physics in 1919. " As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter. " As he(Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck) accepted the Nobel Prize (1919) Regards K G Misra , " sadhak_insight " <sadhak_insight wrote: > > " sadhakramesh " <sadhakramesh > > Ram Ram, > Raj Kumar ji sprem Hari smaran, > > IN ENGLISH > > The question that you have asked is an extremely good one. First and > the foremost we must see the situations and circumstances surrounding > the questions and responses must be delivered accordingly. > > In Ramayan, Lord Laxmanji for the benefit of all mankind poses > questions to Lord Rama to reveal divine knowledge. Lord, please > explain to me about Knowledge (Jnana), Detachment (vairag), God's > Illusory powers (Maya) and Devotion (Bhakti)? > > With reference to Maya, Lord Rama said " Go gochar janha.... " > > And in Gitaji, in Chapter 7, God talks about the four types of > devotees, in that he speaks of the Jnani bhakta (devotee) the one who > sees God in everyone, " Vasudeva Sarvam iti sa mahatma sudurlabhaH " > God calls such a devotee a rarity. > > So these two spiritual practices have been shared for one's salvation. > The Ramayan verse is for those that have a greater inclination towards > " Me " and " Mine-ness " , the influence of the world is quite strongly > taken hold on them, there is greater importance given to the world, > to such individuals it is said - Brother, whatever it is that comes > to your mind, where ever your mind goes, whatever is experienced with > the senses, it is all destructible and impermanent. This is the > essential nature of Maya. Therefore rise above it, do not give > importance to it, do not consider it your very own, then the > attachment to these temporary will break away. You will develop > detachment, and inturn the essential divine knowledge (Jnana) as well > as, devotion for God will be develop. The glories of this have been > expressed by Lord - " Jate begi dravau mai bhai,so mam bhagati sukhdai. " > > And in Gitaji verse, the importance and emphasis is on the devotee > with a simple, straight-forward heart, that has strong faith and > belief in God. For such a simple straightforward devotee, God reveals > to Arjunji - to see Him (God) in Everyone. Swamiji > Maharaj(Swami Shree Ramsukhdasji Maharaj)used to say that until a > devotee gives importance to the world, till then " Everything is God, " > but once the devotee's sight is only on God, then " There is only > God " . It is " God and God alone " There is no other reality. Only > " You and You alone. " " God and only God. " > > Therefore my loving brother, these two spiritual practices are here, > whatever practice seems appropriate that you are inclined towards, you > must follow that practice and attain salvation. > > Yours > > Ramesh Dass > > IN HINDI > > Aap shree ne jo prashn kiya hai,vah bahut badhiya hai. > Sabase pahele hamko yeh dekhana chahiye ki kis prasang kahi,aur > kanha ,kisake samane kahi gai hai? Yeh sab dekhana chahiye. > Yanha Ramayan me Shree Ramji ke samane Laxman ji aapani aur se ham > sab Jivonka pratinidhitva karate hua Panchavati me jigyasa pragat > karate hai ki Prabhu muje Gyan,Vairagya,Maaya aur Bhakti ke bare me > bataiye. > Atah Maaya ke bare me batate huye Ramji ne yah bat kahi ki " Go > gochar janha….. " > Aur Gitaji ke Satave adhyay me char prakar ke bhakto ke bare me > batate huye jo Gyani bhakt ke bare me bat karte huye aise durlabh > Mahata ke bare me batate hai jo sab me mera darshan karta > hai. " VasudevaH sarvam eti sa mahatma sudurlabhaH " . > To yeh dono sadhan hai apane kalyan ke liye.Ramayan vali chopai > me ,jisake under mai,mera pane ka bhav jyada hai,jagat ki satta > usake dilodimag me jyada pakad jamai hui hai,sansar me jyada mahatva > budhhi hai aise sadhako ke liye kaha hai ki bhai aap ke man me jo > aaye,janha aapaka man jay,jo bhi endriyo ke anubhav me aave ; yeh > sab nashvan hai,kshanbhangur hai,yahi Maya ka swarup hai.atah unse > uper utho,unako utana mahatva nahi do,apana mat mano.to aapko es > nashvan se moh mamta tutakar Vairagya peda hoga aur Gyan ka uday > hoga,Prabhu ki bhakti ki prapti hogi.jisaki mahima batate huye > Prabhu kahate hai ki " Jate begi dravau mai bhai,so mam bhagati > sukhdai. " > Aur Gitaji me jo saral hraday ke,jinake hraday me Shradhha-vishvas > ka pradhanya hai.aise saral sadhako ke liye yeh sadhan Bhagvan > Arjunji ke samane batate hai ki sab me mera darshan kare.Aur Swamiji > Maharaj(Swami Shree Ramsukhdasji Maharaj)kahate the ki jab tak > sadhak ke hraday me sarvam ki satta hai tab tak `VasudevaH > Sarvam'hai,nahi to keval Vasudev hi Vsudev hai.dusari koi satta hai > hi nahi..keval Tu hi Tu…Prabhu hi Prabhu…!!! > Esaliye mere pyare bhaiya yah dono sadhan hai,jo jis sadhak ko > anukul pade ,vah sadhan ke anusar chalakar apana kalyan kare…astu.. > Aapaka > Ramesh Dass > > > , Raj Kumar monga <mongarajkumar@> > wrote: > > > > Ram Ram, > > > > I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna > that " Vasudevam Sarvam " means every thing you are perceiving through > your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of > Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi > man jai, so sab maya jano bhai " means everthing you are perceiving > through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? > It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and > contradictions. Please make it clear. > > > > Thanks > > Raj Kumar > > > > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Divine Pranam, When SARVAM comes that means all.When Vaasudev is sarvam what is left?Every thing is included.Sat asat cha aham arjun... Sat asat se pare bhi main hee hoon... It makes every thing clear.Doesnt it? Love Raja.Gopi Krishna Paritala <paritalagopikrishna wrote: Dear Raj Kumar Love and Love alone.... The following conversation between Lord Rama and His Bhakta Hanuman should clear your doubt. On being asked by Rama what he thought of him, Hanuman said: dehabuddhyA tu dAso.haM jIvabuddhyA tvada.nshakaH | AtmabuddhyA tvamevAhaM iti me nishchitA matiH || When I am conscious of my body, I am Thy servant. When aware of myself, I am a part of Thine. When I know my essence, I am verily Thyself. This is my certain belief. Love and Love alone.... P. Gopi Krishna On 8/24/06, Raj Kumar monga <mongarajkumar > wrote: Ram Ram, I have a great confusion. In Geeta Lord Krishna says to Arjuna that" Vasudevam Sarvam Idam" means every thing you are perceiving through your eyes and senses is God but on the other side in Arnaya Kanda of Ram Charitmanas Lord Rama says to Lakshman that " Go gochar jahan lagi man jai, so sab maya jano bhai" means everthing you are perceiving through your eyes, senses and mind is illusion or maya. What is this? It creats lot of confusion in my mind about the real meaning and contradictions. Please make it clear. Thanks Raj Kumar Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. -- Paritala Gopi Krishna All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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