Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Divine One: Sriramakrishna Paramahamsa Dev said the message of " gItA " is in its reverse spelling in Sanskrit i.e " tAgI " . That means Renunciation. And that is very true. Everything boils down to that concept. Thank you! humble regards -m >raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu > > >Re: Let's expand our horizon w/Gitaji - how 2 b >detached: Enlighten't-Samaadhi? (8 of 8 emails) >Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT) > >Priya KG, > You are realy in LKG of GEETAJI.How can you sum up geetaji for TWO >things. > NNONONO dear geetaji is anant. > In geeta mahatmya it is said only god knows fully about geetaji.Even >Arjuna whom it was told does not know it fully. TO PHIR HAMARI AAPKI TO >BAAT HI KYA HAI.... > pl KEEP IN REGULAR TOUCH F GEETAJI... > loves > Raja. > >Krishna Gopal Misra <kg wrote: > In response to Manjula Patel, I only can say that Bhagwat >Gita is about two things, DHARMA and YOGA. DHARMA is taming of mind by >various ways while remaining in the worldly activities; and YOGA is unity >with the supreme and renunciation. > TAPASYObiDHIKO YOGI, GYANIBHYOpi MANODHIKAH > KARMABHASYOdhko Yogi TASMAD YOGI BHAVARJUNA > These are very simple things and nothing obscure spiritual about these >words. Intelligence or mind is only job; Dhyan (setting objective/ scope of >inquiry), Dharna (haunch/ suspect concepts/ choices of the theory), Sadhan >(seminar/ Gita-talk/experimental / observatory), Sadhna (own efforts of >thinking/ research in solitude), Samadhi (realization of proof or after the >inquirer has fully known it) are just a normal step in any R & D activity. >These steps are used also in self inquiry. These are processes of step by >step �attachment� with new knowledge and �detachment� of old >knowledge and till nothing remains to be known. That means, step by step >�enlightenment� is like how a boy is finished graduation, after he only >goes to PG. > Sri Patanjali is the Guru of the scientific psychological process of >YOGA. > Regards >KG > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ >countries) for 2�/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Dear souls; When the Lord says in 18.66 Gita to give up all other dharmas and surrender to Him that would seem to include any false sense of renunciation. For a fact everything belongs to Him and He is the controller of everything. Therefore, what is there to renounce? Avadhoot Manoj Panda <pandamanoj Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2006 9:09:16 AM Re: Message of Gita Divine One:Sriramakrishna Paramahamsa Dev said the message of "gItA" is in its reverse spelling in Sanskrit i.e "tAgI". That means Renunciation. And that is very true. Everything boils down to that concept.Thank you!humble regards-m>raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu> > >Re: Let's expand our horizon w/Gitaji - how 2 b >detached: Enlighten't-Samaadhi? (8 of 8 emails)>Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT)>>Priya KG,> You are realy in LKG of GEETAJI.How can you sum up geetaji for TWO >things.> NNONONO dear geetaji is anant.> In geeta mahatmya it is said only god knows fully about geetaji.Even >Arjuna whom it was told does not know it fully. TO PHIR HAMARI AAPKI TO >BAAT HI KYA HAI....> pl KEEP IN REGULAR TOUCH F GEETAJI...> loves> Raja.>>Krishna Gopal Misra <kg wrote:> In response to Manjula Patel, I only can say that Bhagwat >Gita is about two things, DHARMA and YOGA. DHARMA is taming of mind by >various ways while remaining in the worldly activities; and YOGA is unity >with the supreme and renunciation.> TAPASYObiDHIKO YOGI, GYANIBHYOpi MANODHIKAH> KARMABHASYOdhko Yogi TASMAD YOGI BHAVARJUNA> These are very simple things and nothing obscure spiritual about these >words. Intelligence or mind is only job; Dhyan (setting objective/ scope of >inquiry), Dharna (haunch/ suspect concepts/ choices of the theory), Sadhan >(seminar/ Gita-talk/experimental / observatory), Sadhna (own efforts of >thinking/ research in solitude), Samadhi (realization of proof or after the >inquirer has fully known it) are just a normal step in any R & D activity. >These steps are used also in self inquiry. These are processes of step by >step �attachment� with new knowledge and �detachment� of old >knowledge and till nothing remains to be known. That means, step by step >�enlightenment� is like how a boy is finished graduation, after he only >goes to PG.> Sri Patanjali is the Guru of the scientific psychological process of >YOGA.> Regards>KG>>>>>>>> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ >countries) for 2�/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Swami Ramsukhdasji says Gita is a Prasadgrantha, meaning one get constantly new insights on taking rafuge in it. He says even after writing Sadhak Sanjivani, he understood many things later on. Although I have not gone very deeply into the Gita, but I have experienced the same slokas, same meaning, produces a great effect on the heart sometimes, and not on others. Jai Sri Krishna On 10/3/06, Manoj Panda <pandamanoj wrote: Divine One:Sriramakrishna Paramahamsa Dev said the message of " gItA " is in its reversespelling in Sanskrit i.e " tAgI " . That means Renunciation. And that is verytrue. Everything boils down to that concept.Thank you!humble regards-m>raja gurdasani < muhurmuhu> > >Re: Let's expand our horizon w/Gitaji - how 2 b >detached: Enlighten't-Samaadhi? (8 of 8 emails)>Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT)>>Priya KG,> You are realy in LKG of GEETAJI.How can you sum up geetaji for TWO>things. > NNONONO dear geetaji is anant.> In geeta mahatmya it is said only god knows fully about geetaji.Even>Arjuna whom it was told does not know it fully. TO PHIR HAMARI AAPKI TO>BAAT HI KYA HAI.... > pl KEEP IN REGULAR TOUCH F GEETAJI...> loves> Raja.>>Krishna Gopal Misra <kg wrote:> In response to Manjula Patel, I only can say that Bhagwat >Gita is about two things, DHARMA and YOGA. DHARMA is taming of mind by>various ways while remaining in the worldly activities; and YOGA is unity>with the supreme and renunciation.> TAPASYObiDHIKO YOGI, GYANIBHYOpi MANODHIKAH > KARMABHASYOdhko Yogi TASMAD YOGI BHAVARJUNA> These are very simple things and nothing obscure spiritual about these>words. Intelligence or mind is only job; Dhyan (setting objective/ scope of >inquiry), Dharna (haunch/ suspect concepts/ choices of the theory), Sadhan>(seminar/ Gita-talk/experimental / observatory), Sadhna (own efforts of>thinking/ research in solitude), Samadhi (realization of proof or after the >inquirer has fully known it) are just a normal step in any R & D activity.>These steps are used also in self inquiry. These are processes of step by>step �attachment� with new knowledge and �detachment� of old >knowledge and till nothing remains to be known. That means, step by step>�enlightenment� is like how a boy is finished graduation, after he only>goes to PG.> Sri Patanjali is the Guru of the scientific psychological process of >YOGA.> Regards>KG>>>>>>>> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+>countries) for 2�/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hari bol spirit soulspranamsWhat one should renounce?1) The sense of false proprietorship because everything belongs to Krishna2) the kaitava dharma or cheating religion because the only way is bhakti man mana bhava mad bhakto mad yaji mam namaskuru Bhaktiya mam abhijanati yavan yascasmi tattvataha3) One should renounce the desire for name, fame, distinction, which are like subtle sex desires. They only condition one to samsara and so they are compared to the stool of the hog. 4) One should renounce actions in tamas rajas and even sattva guna when these are not meant for the pleasure of Krishna.5) One should renounce false renunciation or rejecting things that could be used for the service of Krishna.Thus, real renunciation is to use everything favorable for the service of Krishna and rejecting everything unfavorable for the service of Krishna. Anything else belongs to cheating religion and will be the cause of falling down due to false renunciation. Chant Hare Krishna and be happyardavadhuta maharaja <avadhutamaharaja wrote: Dear souls; When the Lord says in 18.66 Gita to give up all other dharmas and surrender to Him that would seem to include any false sense of renunciation. For a fact everything belongs to Him and He is the controller of everything. Therefore, what is there to renounce? Avadhoot Manoj Panda <pandamanoj (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2006 9:09:16 AM Re: Message of Gita Divine One:Sriramakrishna Paramahamsa Dev said the message of "gItA" is in its reverse spelling in Sanskrit i.e "tAgI". That means Renunciation. And that is very true. Everything boils down to that concept.Thank you!humble regards-m>raja gurdasani <muhurmuhu >> > >Re: Let's expand our horizon w/Gitaji - how 2 b >detached: Enlighten't-Samaadhi? (8 of 8 emails)>Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT)>>Priya KG,> You are realy in LKG of GEETAJI.How can you sum up geetaji for TWO >things.> NNONONO dear geetaji is anant.> In geeta mahatmya it is said only god knows fully about geetaji.Even >Arjuna whom it was told does not know it fully. TO PHIR HAMARI AAPKI TO >BAAT HI KYA HAI....> pl KEEP IN REGULAR TOUCH F GEETAJI...> loves> Raja.>>Krishna Gopal Misra <kg (AT) qualitymeter (DOT) com> wrote:> In response to Manjula Patel, I only can say that Bhagwat >Gita is about two things, DHARMA and YOGA. DHARMA is taming of mind by >various ways while remaining in the worldly activities; and YOGA is unity >with the supreme and renunciation.> TAPASYObiDHIKO YOGI, GYANIBHYOpi MANODHIKAH> KARMABHASYOdhko Yogi TASMAD YOGI BHAVARJUNA> These are very simple things and nothing obscure spiritual about these >words. Intelligence or mind is only job; Dhyan (setting objective/ scope of >inquiry), Dharna (haunch/ suspect concepts/ choices of the theory), Sadhan >(seminar/ Gita-talk/experimental / observatory), Sadhna (own efforts of >thinking/ research in solitude), Samadhi (realization of proof or after the >inquirer has fully known it) are just a normal step in any R & D activity. >These steps are used also in self inquiry. These are processes of step by >step �attachment� with new knowledge and �detachment� of old >knowledge and till nothing remains to be known. That means, step by step >�enlightenment� is like how a boy is finished graduation, after he only >goes to PG.> Sri Patanjali is the Guru of the scientific psychological process of >YOGA.> Regards>KG . All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hari bol, spirit soulspranamsWhat is the pathe and the goal?The path of yoga was rejected by Arjuna because the mind is more difficult to control than the wind. He was very qualified still the artificial porocess of yoga he did not accept. So what to say about us who have even weaker body and more disturbed mind than Arjuna. Yoga as described by Patanjali and Sri Krishna is definitelly not for us. The dry renunciation, speculatin about Brahman is not pleasing to Krishna. He, nowhere in the Gia says that a jnani is very dear to Him but that a jnani after many, many lifetimes (bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate) surrenders to Him, knowing Him as the Supreme Absolute Truth, Vasudeva. Matta parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjay. There is no higher truth than Me - Krishna says. I am the basis of brahman - brahmano hi pratishtaham. So Krishna is the ultimate end in knowing the Absolute Truth about God and one who is constatnly glotifying Him is very dear to Him. That is the source of supreme bliss, enlightenment and wonderful spiritual life. satatam kirtayanto mam yatantas ca dridha vrata namasyantas ca mam bhaktya nitya yukta upasate. ard Manoj Panda <pandamanoj wrote: Divine One:Sriramakrishna Paramahamsa Dev said the message of "gItA" is in its reverse spelling in Sanskrit i.e "tAgI". That means Renunciation. And that is very true. Everything boils down to that concept.Thank you!humble regards-m>raja gurdasani > > >Re: Let's expand our horizon w/Gitaji - how 2 b >detached: Enlighten't-Samaadhi? (8 of 8 emails)>Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT)>>Priya KG,> You are realy in LKG of GEETAJI.How can you sum up geetaji for TWO >things.> NNONONO dear geetaji is anant.> In geeta mahatmya it is said only god knows fully about geetaji.Even >Arjuna whom it was told does not know it fully. TO PHIR HAMARI AAPKI TO >BAAT HI KYA HAI....> pl KEEP IN REGULAR TOUCH F GEETAJI...> loves> Raja.>>Krishna Gopal Misra wrote:> In response to Manjula Patel, I only can say that Bhagwat >Gita is about two things, DHARMA and YOGA. DHARMA is taming of mind by >various ways while remaining in the worldly activities; and YOGA is unity >with the supreme and renunciation.> TAPASYObiDHIKO YOGI, GYANIBHYOpi MANODHIKAH> KARMABHASYOdhko Yogi TASMAD YOGI BHAVARJUNA> These are very simple things and nothing obscure spiritual about these >words. Intelligence or mind is only job; Dhyan (setting objective/ scope of >inquiry), Dharna (haunch/ suspect concepts/ choices of the theory), Sadhan >(seminar/ Gita-talk/experimental / observatory), Sadhna (own efforts of >thinking/ research in solitude), Samadhi (realization of proof or after the >inquirer has fully known it) are just a normal step in any R & D activity. >These steps are used also in self inquiry. These are processes of step by >step �attachment� with new knowledge and �detachment� of old >knowledge and till nothing remains to be known. That means, step by step >�enlightenment� is like how a boy is finished graduation, after he only >goes to PG.> Sri Patanjali is the Guru of the scientific psychological process of >YOGA.> Regards>KG>>>>>>>> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ >countries) for 2�/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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