reincarnation according to Gita

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Jai Shri Krishna In the Bhagwad Gita it has been written that an Atma takes birth in different yonies according to its past karmas. Some atmas, having done good deeds may be entitled to take birth as human beings. The question here is that due to adoption of family planning programmes, an atma is not given an opportunity to take birth as a human being. Then where do these atmas that are entitled to human birth go under these circumstances? Are these types of deeds such as family planning an interference in the work of God? or have we (human beings) become more powerful than God? One Sadak

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Dear Purushottamji, Gita doesn't say Atma takes birth, rather it says

It is free from birth and death. As I understand, what takes birth is

subtle body - Antakaranah - mind-intellect-ego stuff - vasanayukta

sukshma sharir sustained by Atma like space would sustain objects but

remain untouched by them.

Atma is One without a second so there is no question of many atmas.

Atma is not doing any karmas; karmas are done in Its Presence as

their Witness (so to speak)! Ego falsely identifies with these karmas

and assumes doership in ignorance of its true nature. This ignorance

continues as cycle of birth and death until Self-knowledge takes

place thru divine souls like Swami Ramsukhdasji! Atma is eternal

Being(sat-chit-ananda) and doesn't need body(as evidenced by deep sleep in which

body-mind is not even there) rather body needs It for its existence. Atma which

is impersonal, not yours or mine, but universal(Brahman or GOD)!

I am sorry if I have overwhelmed anyone but that's how I see it! One

must pursue inquiry into Atma with the help of self realized One and

scriptures!.... Sadhak

 

, purushottam maheshwari

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> Jai Shri Krishna

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> In the Bhagwad Gita it has been written that a Atma take the

birth in different yonies according to its past karma. Some of the

atma might have done good deed and were entitled to take birth as

human being but due to adoption of family planning programmes they

can not take birth as human being.

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> Then where these atma goes. and whether this deed of family

planning is interference in the work of god or human being has become

more powerful than the God.

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> One Sadak

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> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail.

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If every birth is determined by the past karma, which karma caused the first birth?

 

On 10/31/06, purushottam maheshwari <pd_maheshwari wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jai Shri Krishna

 

In the Bhagwad Gita it has been written that an Atma takes birth in different yonies according to its past karmas. Some atmas, having done good deeds may be entitled to take birth as human beings. The question here is that due to adoption of family planning programmes, an atma is not given an opportunity to take birth as a human being.

 

Then where do these atmas that are entitled to human birth go under these circumstances? Are these types of deeds such as family planning an interference in the work of God? or have we (human beings) become more powerful than God?

One Sadak

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Dear all,

This is an faq which many people have asked in the past. Which was

born first, the mango or the mango tree/-- or, which was born first,

the hen or the egg ?

 

According to the theory of evolution in which Hindus believe, the very

first persons were the Sanat-kumaras, who were the Manasa-putras

(progenies which came out of the mind) of the Creator, Brahma. They

were asked by the Creator to assist him in creative work, but they

walked off saying that they were not interested in it and went away to

perform Tapas (penance) and service of the Lord. When this

disobedience was regarded as serious.by the Creator Brahma, he waqs

overcome by anger and his anger came out in the form of Rudra, who,

right on birth, started crying, and asking for place to live, name

etc. This was granted and Rudra was given 11 forms, 11 names, 11

abodes to live and 11 wives to perform procreation work. Rudra

created beings just like him, black, ugly-looking with matted hair and

what not. When the creator Brahma saw them, He was feeling sorry that

he made a mistake of asking Rudra to procreate, and he created beings

similar to him. Brahma got worried that if Rudras asked to continue

the work, he would fill up the universe with all ugly creatures. Hence

he stopped Rudra from the creative work, and requested him to go on

Tapas or meditation.

 

Then it is said that much thought was given by the creator how the

creative activity would be done in future using the mode of marital

Dharma, and Brahma divided himself into two, one male (Swayambhuva

Manu) and a female, (Satarupa). These two entities (Adam and Eve)

were the first ones who started the creative activity and procreated

five childrem. As there was no fruits of action (Karama-phalam) at

that time, they were all created as good people with no bad

qualities. People started getting different qualities based on the

preponderance of the three Gunas or modes of the primordial nature,

Sattva, Rajas and Tamas. So actions and fruits thereof, came into

being only later.

 

Love

K.V. Gopalakrishna.

 

 

 

Anup Wadhwa wrote:

 

 

If every birth is determined by the past karma, which karma

caused the first birth?

 

 

 

On 10/31/06, purushottam maheshwari <pd_maheshwari >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jai Shri Krishna

 

In the Bhagwad Gita it has been written that an Atma takes

birth in different yonies according to its past karmas. Some atmas,

having done good deeds may be entitled to take birth as human beings.

The question here is that due to adoption of family planning

programmes, an atma is not given an opportunity to take birth as a

human being.

 

Then where do these atmas that are entitled to human birth go

under these circumstances? Are these types of deeds such as family

planning an interference in the work of God? or have we (human beings)

become more powerful than God?

One Sadak

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A topic beyond human comprehension. Family planning. Suppose

(for the sake of argument) all people decide not to marry and remain as

Brahmacharis, and hence the creative activity among human beings comes

to a standstill, what will happen to all the souls which are qualified

to re-incarnate as human beings?

 

It is the job of the Creator who dispenses justice to give an

appropriate body to every soul, depending upon the Karma of each

individual soul, after it ceases its mundane existence! All actions

including family planning, are performed, as ordained by the

inscrutable Lord. Why should man worry about God's job--He may have

some better plans for that soul!

 

Love

K.V. Gopalakrishna

 

 

purushottam maheshwari wrote:

 

 

Jai Shri Krishna

 

In the Bhagwad Gita it has been written that an Atma takes birth

in different yonies according to its past karmas. Some atmas, having

done good deeds may be entitled to take birth as human beings. The

question here is that due to adoption of family planning programmes, an

atma is not given an opportunity to take birth as a human being.

Then where do these atmas that are entitled to human birth go

under these circumstances? Are these types of deeds such as family

planning an interference in the work of God? or have we (human beings)

become more powerful than God?

 

One Sadak

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Dear Souls, The law of karma is very difficult to understand in all its intricacies. Its dispensation is in the hands of the ´¨paramesvara¨¨. Yet, as there is the general rule that for every action lies an equal an opposite reaction. Thus for one who stops the birth of a child either by abortion or contraception we should expect a similar reaction to address those involved in the next life. Thus, the child who is aborted by submission to the codes of family planning, may only be receiving the reaction for what crime he was an accomplice to in the previous life. Avadhoot "K.V Gopalakrishna" <gopalakrishna.kv wrote: A topic beyond human comprehension. Family planning. Suppose (for the sake of argument) all people decide not to marry and remain as Brahmacharis, and hence the creative activity among human beings comes to a standstill, what will happen to all the souls which are qualified to re-incarnate as human beings? It is the job of the Creator who dispenses justice to give an appropriate body to every soul, depending upon the Karma of each individual soul, after it ceases its mundane existence! All actions including family planning, are performed, as ordained by the inscrutable Lord. Why should man worry about God's job--He may have some better plans for that soul! LoveK.V.

Gopalakrishnapurushottam maheshwari wrote: Jai Shri Krishna In the Bhagwad Gita it has been written that an Atma takes birth in different yonies according to its past karmas. Some atmas, having done good deeds may be entitled to take birth as human beings. The question here is that due to adoption of family planning programmes, an atma is not given an opportunity to take birth as a human being. Then where do these atmas that are entitled to human birth go under these circumstances? Are these types of deeds such as family planning an interference in the work of God? or have we (human beings) become more powerful than God? One Sadak

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