Why did God not stop us from committing sins?

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" om singhal " <omsinghal

 

Swamiji,

" Only God is our very own " , Why millions of people are suffering,

if you say it is the effects of prior sins, why did he not stop us

before we committed sins? why did he not give wisdom to sinners who

were ready to commit evil acts, to sin.

I know we all came alone and we all have to go alone, but why this

transition is very very painful for lots and lots of people.

The disease, the povety, the unsuccess, the hatred, the hunger so on

and so on.

It is very difficult to perceive by ordinary men/women that

unfavourable situation is the result of past sins.

 

Swamiji, Is there anything thing about this in the Bhagavad Gita?

 

Swamiji, 0.1% are like you, rest all fall in the catagory of

ordinary

men/women.

 

Ram Ram

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We can realise that we are given many powers and one of the most important, is the power to choose! We commit sins out of our choice. We need to take responsibility and accept the results of our actions. This is one of the experiences to be had. The power of choice. Not to be tempted to commit sins needs power to anticipate results of our actions and will power. All this leads to development of a more conscious being.

Bhave

-sadhak_insight Subject: Why did God not stop us from committing sins?Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:07:57 -0000

 

"om singhal" <omsinghal (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Swamiji,"Only God is our very own", Why millions of people are suffering, if you say it is the effects of prior sins, why did he not stop us before we committed sins? why did he not give wisdom to sinners who were ready to commit evil acts, to sin.I know we all came alone and we all have to go alone, but why this transition is very very painful for lots and lots of people.The disease, the povety, the unsuccess, the hatred, the hunger so on and so on.It is very difficult to perceive by ordinary men/women that unfavourable situation is the result of past sins.Swamiji, Is there anything thing about this in the Bhagavad Gita? Swamiji, 0.1% are like you, rest all fall in the catagory of ordinary men/women.Ram Ram

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" pratapbhatt "

Very practical answer is to act out of wise choice and to develop

into conscious being.

 

On another level we can see our choices are dictated by our

conditioning of which we may be conscious or mostly unconscious at

the time we act. One of the most damaging conditioning is to think

we are an individual, person, and doer and chooser of our acts.

These doers and choosers are really our conditioning(accumulated

karmas thru ignorance) resulting in " I-me-mine " bhavas which we

mistakenly take as ourselves.

 

In the abscence of such bhavas and assuming non-doership, taking our

stand as Witness, all our actions will surely result from Atman as

the source of intelligence, and not from us as conditioned

individuals. In this case actions will be only of benevalence to

humanity even if they seem to be apparantly and from invidual point

of view not good. I have never experienced or read where someone who

sincerely thought he/she was not the individual doer/enjoyer acted

in evil way. This is the basis for Arjuna to kill in the war as they

were not his actions, neither those of Krishnaji but actions sprung

naturally out of understanding on the part of Arjuna who then became

an instrument to carry out the executions as were needed by the

meaning implied in " yada yada hi dharmasya, glani bhavati

Bharat....... "

 

This way it is more permanent/immediate change towards being

Conscious Being.

 

Pranaam to all devotees....

-

" V. Krishnamurthy "

 

Dear all,

Namaste. Your question: Why did God not stop us from committing sins? is a

question that occurs to all seekers of spirituality. The answer is contained in

the concept of freewill that God has given us. We have to rise, against the

pulls and pushes of our own mind, which is full of bad tendencies from its own

past thoughts and actions.

 

PraNAms to all seekers.

-

 

, " sadhak_insight "

<sadhak_insight wrote:

>

> " om singhal " <omsinghal

>

> Swamiji,

> " Only God is our very own " , Why millions of people are suffering,

> if you say it is the effects of prior sins, why did he not stop us

> before we committed sins? why did he not give wisdom to sinners

who

> were ready to commit evil acts, to sin.

> I know we all came alone and we all have to go alone, but why this

> transition is very very painful for lots and lots of people.

> The disease, the povety, the unsuccess, the hatred, the hunger so

on and so on.

> It is very difficult to perceive by ordinary men/women that

> unfavourable situation is the result of past sins.

>

> Swamiji, Is there anything thing about this in the Bhagavad Gita?

>

> Swamiji, 0.1% are like you, rest all fall in the category of

> ordinary men/women.

>

> Ram Ram

>

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, if you really dedicate your life to the God or if you surrender to the God (Saranagathi), definitely God will send some signals to you before you commit sins. Be "Alert" to be able to pick up these signals or to understand His Will. sadhak_insight <sadhak_insight wrote: "pratapbhatt" Very practical answer is to act out of wise choice and to develop into conscious

being.On another level we can see our choices are dictated by our conditioning of which we may be conscious or mostly unconscious at the time we act. One of the most damaging conditioning is to think we are an individual, person, and doer and chooser of our acts. These doers and choosers are really our conditioning(accumulated karmas thru ignorance) resulting in "I-me-mine" bhavas which we mistakenly take as ourselves.In the abscence of such bhavas and assuming non-doership, taking ourstand as Witness, all our actions will surely result from Atman as the source of intelligence, and not from us as conditioned individuals. In this case actions will be only of benevalence to humanity even if they seem to be apparantly and from invidual point of view not good. I have never experienced or read where someone who sincerely thought he/she was not the individual doer/enjoyer acted in evil way. This is the

basis for Arjuna to kill in the war as they were not his actions, neither those of Krishnaji but actions sprung naturally out of understanding on the part of Arjuna who then became an instrument to carry out the executions as were needed by the meaning implied in "yada yada hi dharmasya, glani bhavati Bharat......."This way it is more permanent/immediate change towards being Conscious Being.Pranaam to all devotees....-------------------------"V. Krishnamurthy" Dear all,Namaste. Your question: Why did God not stop us from committing sins? is a question that occurs to all seekers of spirituality. The answer is contained in the concept of freewill that God has given us. We have to rise, against the pulls and pushes of our own mind, which is full of bad tendencies from its own past thoughts and actions.PraNAms to all

seekers.------------------------- , "sadhak_insight" <sadhak_insight wrote:>> "om singhal" <omsinghal > > Swamiji,> "Only God is our very own", Why millions of people are suffering, > if you say it is the effects of prior sins, why did he not stop us > before we committed sins? why did he not give wisdom to sinners who > were ready to commit evil acts, to sin.> I know we all came alone and we all have to go alone, but why this > transition is very very painful for lots and lots of people.> The disease, the povety, the unsuccess, the hatred, the hunger so on and so on.> It is very difficult to perceive by ordinary men/women that > unfavourable situation is the result of past

sins.> > Swamiji, Is there anything thing about this in the Bhagavad Gita? > > Swamiji, 0.1% are like you, rest all fall in the category of > ordinary men/women.> > Ram Ram>

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This question arises only for those ( All of us ) who are rooted in

Prakriti because all that happens in the world is due to interaction

of different elements of prakrit ie Sttwa, Rajas and Tamas. Our body,

mind and intelect are all made up of prakriti. The actions performed

by an individual depend on the dominant element of prakriti at any

given time. If Satwa is dominant we perform pious actions and if

Tamas if dominant we perform harmful actions. The true self ie Jiwa

or Atman is a silent witness. This question is being asked by the body, mind,

intellect complex rather than atman. God has nothing to do with our actions

which are only an interplay of different gunas of prakriti. For those who have

evolved to the level of Atman and gone beyond the Body, mind complex, this

question won't arise. Chapter 14 especially verse 23 discusses this aspect in

great detail. Chapter 3 verse 27 also refers to the principle.

 

As we progress on the spiritual path initially we go from more tamas

and rajas to more sattwa and finally we go from doing to witnessing

and go beyond sattwa and than this question won't arise either.

 

Humbly submitted

 

Jag Aggarwal

 

, gln sarabiah <sarabgln wrote:

>

>

>

> In my opinion, if you really dedicate your life to the God or if

you surrender to the God (Saranagathi), definitely God will send some

signals to you before you commit sins. Remain aware to be able to

pick up these signals or to understand His Will.

>

>

> sadhak_insight <sadhak_insight wrote:

> " pratapbhatt "

> Very practical answer is to act out of wise choice and to develop

> into conscious being.

>

> On another level we can see our choices are dictated by our

> conditioning of which we may be conscious or mostly unconscious at

> the time we act. One of the most damaging conditioning is to think

> we are an individual, person, and doer and chooser of our acts.

> These doers and choosers are really our conditioning(accumulated

> karmas thru ignorance) resulting in " I-me-mine " bhavas which we

> mistakenly take as ourselves.

>

> In the abscence of such bhavas and assuming non-doership, taking our

> stand as Witness, all our actions will surely result from Atman as

> the source of intelligence, and not from us as conditioned

> individuals. In this case actions will be only of benevalence to

> humanity even if they seem to be apparantly and from invidual point

> of view not good. I have never experienced or read where someone

who

> sincerely thought he/she was not the individual doer/enjoyer acted

> in evil way. This is the basis for Arjuna to kill in the war as

they

> were not his actions, neither those of Krishnaji but actions sprung

> naturally out of understanding on the part of Arjuna who then

became

> an instrument to carry out the executions as were needed by the

> meaning implied in " yada yada hi dharmasya, glani bhavati

> Bharat....... "

>

> This way it is more permanent/immediate change towards being

> Conscious Being.

>

> Pranaam to all devotees....

> -------------------------

> " V. Krishnamurthy "

>

> Dear all,

> Namaste. Your question: Why did God not stop us from committing

sins? is a question that occurs to all seekers of spirituality. The

answer is contained in the concept of freewill that God has given us.

We have to rise, against the pulls and pushes of our own mind, which

is full of bad tendencies from its own past thoughts and actions.

>

> PraNAms to all seekers.

> -------------------------

>

> , " sadhak_insight "

> <sadhak_insight@> wrote:

> >

> > " om singhal " <omsinghal@>

> >

> > Swamiji,

> > " Only God is our very own " , Why millions of people are suffering,

> > if you say it is the effects of prior sins, why did he not stop

us

> > before we committed sins? why did he not give wisdom to sinners

> who

> > were ready to commit evil acts, to sin.

> > I know we all came alone and we all have to go alone, but why

this

> > transition is very very painful for lots and lots of people.

> > The disease, the povety, the unsuccess, the hatred, the hunger so

> on and so on.

> > It is very difficult to perceive by ordinary men/women that

> > unfavourable situation is the result of past sins.

> >

> > Swamiji, Is there anything thing about this in the Bhagavad Gita?

> >

> > Swamiji, 0.1% are like you, rest all fall in the category of

> > ordinary men/women.

> >

> > Ram Ram

> >

 

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