Act of silence with a purpose

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Dear Sadhak

'Silence' is to my mind 'action of non reaction' or an action without

anexiety or fear or expectation. This state of awareness comes by complete

knowledge, and is not a matter of ignorance or a pretext of avoidance.

Example is how a grandfather sits in midst of chaos of children playing

around him. This 'silence of enlightened' is 'drasta' bhav and is a feeling

of unity of uniserval existence of the soul. Gandhi also practiced

'silence' because in those days choas in Indian politics was unreasonable

and he was at best in silence.

 

Bhagwat Gita did not describe 'silence' but it described vivarjan

(abstinance) of 'sang dosha'. 'Sang' means, 'interaction'; and 'sansar' is

product of the 'sang dosha' or interactive learning. Sri Krishna said to

Arjun that interaction is source of a question but not an answer. For

finding an answer, it is not a right way, and a bhakt should stay in

solitude to make his mind free to think (meditate).

 

Sri Krishna by great care explained secret of 'reasoning' and practice of

pure reason. He expected His bhakt to remain always in a state of solitute

rather than in a state of the interaction. The reason is, 'solitute' is a

state of 'thinking' and 'interaction' is about 'learning'. By this

definition, learning is opposite of thinking, and is like learning as

'eating' and thinking as 'disesting'. 'Eat less, digest more'. Silence is

helpful for a solitude but is not a gurantee. Purposeful silence frees the

mind to 'digest' or 'think' at something, and create an understanding that

develops mind to understand thughts of the Bhagwat Gita.

 

Hare Ram

K G Misra

 

 

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Very nicely put. Silence is the complete action of understanding. It is the silence of mind that has understood its own limitation of identification with body-mind-ego as independent entity and therefore spontaneously becomes silent, not made silent by some practices. Even though practices have values in the beginning to purify the mind, it dawns on the Sadhaka down the road that this silence is not achieved by mind, rather its dissolution into Consciousness(chit). Such is the experience of universal Existence(sat) and (Bliss), perhaps it is what is hinted below.

With great appreciation.....Pratap Bhatt

, "qualitymeter" <qualitymeter wrote:>> Dear Sadhak> 'Silence' is to my mind 'action of non reaction' or an action without> anexiety or fear or expectation. This state of awareness comes by complete> knowledge, and is not a matter of ignorance or a pretext of avoidance.> Example is how a grandfather sits in midst of chaos of children playing > around him. This 'silence of enlightened' is 'drasta' bhav and is a feeling> of unity of uniserval existence of the soul. Gandhi also practiced> 'silence' because in those days choas in Indian politics was unreasonable> and he was at best in silence. > > Bhagwat Gita did not describe 'silence' but it described vivarjan> (abstinance) of 'sang dosha'. 'Sang' means, 'interaction'; and 'sansar' is> product of the 'sang dosha' or interactive learning. Sri Krishna said to> Arjun that interaction is source of a question but not an answer. For> finding an answer, it is not a right way, and a bhakt should stay in> solitude to make his mind free to think (meditate). > > Sri Krishna by great care explained secret of 'reasoning' and practice of> pure reason. He expected His bhakt to remain always in a state of solitute> rather than in a state of the interaction. The reason is, 'solitute' is a> state of 'thinking' and 'interaction' is about 'learning'. By this> definition, learning is opposite of thinking, and is like learning as> 'eating' and thinking as 'disesting'. 'Eat less, digest more'. Silence is> helpful for a solitude but is not a gurantee. Purposeful silence frees the> mind to 'digest' or 'think' at something, and create an understanding that> develops mind to understand thughts of the Bhagwat Gita. > > Hare Ram> K G Misra> > > --> mail2web - Check your email from the web at> http://mail2web.com/ .>

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Loving Divine,

Pranams and thank you.

In Gitaji, Lord talks about various practices - let it be through karma yoga, bhakti yoga or jyaan yoga, just to keep mind under control or rather for mind to fool itself in telling that it will stop working or desolve in something - action, jyaan or devotion! At one point he even says that through abhyaas one can control the mind. But these are all needed only to the point one relates themselves as either body, mind or intellect. The moment it dawns, one is immediately free from restlessness and the silence pervades. There remains no more desire to know anything or belong to anybody! One just becomes the silence ITSELF - the moment of complete surrender! And this silence is indicated to be attained when Lord mentions of complete surrender towards the end.

 

Humble regards,

always at Thy Divine Feet

On 12/15/06, qualitymeter <qualitymeter

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Dear Sadhak'Silence' is to my mind 'action of non reaction' or an action withoutanexiety or fear or expectation. This state of awareness comes by completeknowledge, and is not a matter of ignorance or a pretext of avoidance.

Example is how a grandfather sits in midst of chaos of children playing around him. This 'silence of enlightened' is 'drasta' bhav and is a feelingof unity of uniserval existence of the soul. Gandhi also practiced

'silence' because in those days choas in Indian politics was unreasonableand he was at best in silence. Bhagwat Gita did not describe 'silence' but it described vivarjan(abstinance) of 'sang dosha'. 'Sang' means, 'interaction'; and 'sansar' is

product of the 'sang dosha' or interactive learning. Sri Krishna said toArjun that interaction is source of a question but not an answer. Forfinding an answer, it is not a right way, and a bhakt should stay in

solitude to make his mind free to think (meditate). Sri Krishna by great care explained secret of 'reasoning' and practice ofpure reason. He expected His bhakt to remain always in a state of solituterather than in a state of the interaction. The reason is, 'solitute' is a

state of 'thinking' and 'interaction' is about 'learning'. By thisdefinition, learning is opposite of thinking, and is like learning as'eating' and thinking as 'disesting'. 'Eat less, digest more'. Silence is

helpful for a solitude but is not a gurantee. Purposeful silence frees themind to 'digest' or 'think' at something, and create an understanding thatdevelops mind to understand thughts of the Bhagwat Gita.

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In His 'seva';Shree Krishna says, 'satatam kirtayanto mam'. 'Mam' means Krishna. So those who are always chanting the holy name, fame, qualities, and leela of Shree Krishna are filling the vacuum or ether with pure nectar. If one has nothing spiritual to say, then better to remain silent. But there is so much 'amrit' in Hari Katha that even Anantasesha, the royal bed carrier who has a thousand heads and has been chanting the glories of the Lord from time immemorial has yet to finish. AvadhootManjula Patel <manjumaa wrote: Loving Divine, Pranams and thank you. In Gitaji, Lord talks about various practices - let it be through karma yoga, bhakti yoga or jyaan yoga, just to keep mind under control or rather for mind to fool itself in telling that it will stop working or desolve in something - action, jyaan or devotion! At one point he even says that through abhyaas one can control the mind. But these are all needed only to the point one relates themselves as either body, mind or intellect. The moment it dawns, one is immediately free from restlessness and the silence pervades. There remains no more desire to know anything or belong to anybody! One just becomes the silence ITSELF - the moment of complete surrender! And this silence is indicated to be attained when Lord mentions of complete surrender towards the end. Humble regards, always at Thy Divine Feet On 12/15/06, qualitymeter (AT) qualitymeter (DOT) com <qualitymeter (AT) qualitymeter (DOT) com > wrote: Dear Sadhak'Silence' is to my mind 'action of non reaction' or an action withoutanexiety or fear or expectation. This state of awareness comes by completeknowledge, and is not a matter of ignorance or a pretext of avoidance. Example is how a grandfather sits in midst of chaos of children playing around him. This 'silence of enlightened' is 'drasta' bhav and is a feelingof unity of uniserval existence of the soul. Gandhi also practiced 'silence' because in those days choas in Indian politics was unreasonableand he was at

best in silence. Bhagwat Gita did not describe 'silence' but it described vivarjan(abstinance) of 'sang dosha'. 'Sang' means, 'interaction'; and 'sansar' is product of the 'sang dosha' or interactive learning. Sri Krishna said toArjun that interaction is source of a question but not an answer. Forfinding an answer, it is not a right way, and a bhakt should stay in solitude to make his mind free to think (meditate). Sri Krishna by great care explained secret of 'reasoning' and practice ofpure reason. He expected His bhakt to remain always in a state of solituterather than in a state of the interaction. The reason is, 'solitute' is a state of 'thinking' and 'interaction' is about 'learning'. By thisdefinition, learning is opposite of thinking, and is like learning as'eating' and thinking as 'disesting'. 'Eat less, digest more'. Silence is helpful for a solitude but is not a gurantee. Purposeful silence frees

themind to 'digest' or 'think' at something, and create an understanding thatdevelops mind to understand thughts of the Bhagwat Gita. Hare RamK G Misra-------------------------mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .