Salvation from taking Refuge in God (Sarnagati se Mukti)

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IN ENGLISH,

Loving Divine,

Pranam.

Hummmm..., You yourself are knowledgable; you know the solution. You know the solution very well, that what you need to do, but you do not do it. Even if God Himself comes and provides you the solution, then too it will be useless, because you are not interested in changing. If you are firm in your determination, your resolution, if you truly want to change your ways, then only some solution is possible, or else there is no meaning in anyone's words of advice. Love always,

always at Thy Holy Feet

IN HINDI

Loving Divine,

Pranam.

Hummmm..., aap khud jyaani hen, aap upaaya jaante hen, aap bahut hi achhese jaante hen ki aapko kyaa karnaa he lekin karte nahi hen... Agar Bhagwaan kud aakar aapko salaah denge to vo bhi bekaar hogi kyonki aap anpeko badalanaa hi nahi chaahte hen!!! Agar aap vachan ke pakke hen, aap sahi me badalanaa chaahte hen to hi kuch upaaya kiya jaa saktaa he verna kisike shabdon kaa koi mole nahi he.

 

Love always,

always at Thy Holy Feet

On 15 Dec 2006 12:33:46 -0000, Rampal Laddha <rplca67 wrote:

IN ENGLISH:

Dear Sadhak, Pranam, The attraction and attachment to worldly objects is not decreasing. Therefore one is unable to develop divine love of God. I have greater longing and craving for wealth and material goods. Due to greed, sins are also committed and desire for accumulation of things persists. Therefore duties are not being adequately performed. What is the solution to this dilemma? IN HINDI Dear SadhakPranamSansarik padartho me askati kam nahi hoti hai. Is liye pramatma me prem nahi ho pata. Meri dhan(rupayo) ke prati lalsa jyda hai. Lobh ke karan pap bhi hota aur sangrah ki vrati hoti hai. Is liye kartvya ke palan me kami rah jati hai. Iska upay kya hai.

br>Rampal Ladha

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Loving Divine,

Humble Pranams.

If one truly wants to transform him/herself one has to have strong desire within to do so otherwise words carry no meaning.

Do not ever consider yourself as bad as Swamiji and Baba both indicate that once you form that type of opinion within, you invite that badness within, you establish yourself in it so free yourself from such thoughts.

 

We need to evaluate both our good and bad sides (please note: God has nothing to do with good or bad, He is forever neutral and balanced. It is us, our society who has created good and bad based on our value system. We only attract good or bad consequences based on our so called good or bad actions). If we consider Gitaji being a representation of inner battle then, in Gitaji, Lord wants Arjuna to evaluate both of his good and bad tendencies by placing the chariot right in the middle (neutral, balanced place) from where Arjuna can see his good tendencies (pandavas as most of the times good qualities in us are less in number) and bad tendencies (kauravas representing our evil sides). By recognizing the our tendencies openly and asking for help the first step has been taken towards transformation already, half the battle is won!

 

As Yoganandaji says, to get rid of any bad tendency it takes sincere efforts for almost 12 years. So with firm resolution continue.

 

Baba says our breath has direct relationship with what we do, e.g., in anger breath is different than in calmness. Watching breath always makes one more and more aware of what they are doing. Once you become fully aware even though your mind would want to go on evil route your higher self will not let you divert from your path. Watching breath does not require for you to set aside any time. Please stay firm, keep good company (satsang) all the time. If time permits read scriptures only with their inner meaning. At least one Gita sloka a day with contemplation on it through out the day is also recommended by Baba. If you like chanting do so but do it with understanding its inner meaning. Whatever spiritual practice you are following continue with it - just add watching breath to it.

 

Always alwasy keep in mind two important lessons from Gitaji: 1) Vasudevam sarvam iti. - 'sabkuch parmaatmaamay he' 2) sarvadharmaanparityajya mamekam sharanamvraj ahamtvaa sarvapaapebhyo mokshaishyaami maa suchh - 'paramaatmaa ki sharan me hi mukti he'

 

Lots of love and prayers, know that God is with you always.

humble regards,

always at Thy Divine Feet from where strength to transform flows...

 

On 12/15/06, Manjula Patel <manjumaa wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

IN ENGLISH, Loving Divine,

Pranam.

Hummmm..., You yourself are knowledgable; you know the solution. You know the solution very well, that what you need to do, but you do not do it. Even if God Himself comes and provides you the solution, then too it will be useless, because you are not interested in changing. If you are firm in your determination, your resolution, if you truly want to change your ways, then only some solution is possible, or else there is no meaning in anyone's words of advice.

 

Love always,

always at Thy Holy Feet IN HINDI Loving Divine,

Pranam.

Hummmm..., aap khud jyaani hen, aap upaaya jaante hen, aap bahut hi achhese jaante hen ki aapko kyaa karnaa he lekin karte nahi hen... Agar Bhagwaan kud aakar aapko salaah denge to vo bhi bekaar hogi kyonki aap anpeko badalanaa hi nahi chaahte hen!!! Agar aap vachan ke pakke hen, aap sahi me badalanaa chaahte hen to hi kuch upaaya kiya jaa saktaa he verna kisike shabdon kaa koi mole nahi he.

Love always,

always at Thy Holy Feet

On 15 Dec 2006 12:33:46 -0000, Rampal Laddha <

rplca67 wrote: IN ENGLISH: Dear Sadhak, Pranam, The attraction and attachment to worldly objects is not decreasing. Therefore one is unable to develop divine love of God. I have greater longing and craving for wealth and material goods. Due to greed, sins are also committed and desire for accumulation of things persists. Therefore duties are not being adequately performed. What is the solution to this dilemma? IN HINDI

Dear SadhakPranamSansarik padartho me askati kam nahi hoti hai. Is liye pramatma me prem nahi ho pata. Meri dhan(rupayo) ke prati lalsa jyda hai. Lobh ke karan pap bhi hota aur sangrah ki vrati hoti hai. Is liye kartvya ke palan me kami rah jati hai. Iska upay kya hai. br>Rampal Ladha

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Dear Ones, pranaam: My Model so to speak....

The world and its objects are attractive, sure, as they have been thus created so to speak. Problem doesn't lie there but rather here within us. THe root of the problem has to be found rather than to get frustrated/attratced by objects which don't have attractions or distractions in and of themselves.

I assume due to conditioning that I am a separate individual physically and psychologically. This is not our real experience but is a belief only handed over by environment. This separation from whole causes me to feel incomplete.

SO all my actions originate from this misunderstanding making me fill my perceived incompleteness thru objects, and people I can use related or not. THe basic lack gives rise to desires for wanting to be complete.

THen I get attached to people and objects as I look to them for my psychological satisfaction only thus making me selfish in my life pursuits.

When I understand this root of the problem then I turn inward as if thru grace of God/Guru/spiritual friend/Gita etc etc.

I see now that oh, I am not this individual but rather Consciousness which is not my own personal but we share. THis is a journey of course. Miind asks lots of questions to hold me to this person which is collective conditioning I consider to be mine and me.

If one can break this by admitting a possibility that I that I thought I am is not true but really is this impersonal consciousness(Chit) within (Only constant in all my experiences, never leave me during waking/dreaming/deep sleep states), and the outside so called world is only a whole Being(sat) THen both realities of within amd without merge in one whole reality of Bliss.

At this time I feel full naturally and personal desires vanish, Lila, play of God Consciousness is what I experience at body-mind level. Objects and people now take on extraordinary meaning rather than drag on us!(only love)

Need we say more? , "Manjula Patel" <manjumaa wrote:>> Loving Divine,> Pranam.> Hummmm..., *aap khud jyaani hen*, aap upaaya jaante hen, aap bahut hi> achhese jaante hen ki aapko kyaa karnaa he lekin karte nahi hen... Agar> Bhagwaan kud aakar aapko salaah denge to vo bhi bekaar hogi kyonki aap> anpeko badalanaa hi nahi chaahte hen!!! Agar aap vachan ke pakke hen, aap> sahi me badalanaa chaahte hen to hi kuch upaaya kiya jaa saktaa he verna> kisike shabdon kaa koi mole nahi he.> Love always,> always at Thy Holy Feet> > > On 15 Dec 2006 12:33:46 -0000, Rampal Laddha rplca67 wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sadhak> >> > Pranam> >> > Sansarik padartho me askati kam nahi hoti hai. Is liye pramatma me prem> > nahi ho pata. Meri dhan(rupayo) ke prati lalsa jyda hai. Lobh ke karan pap> > bhi hota aur sangrah ki vrati hoti hai. Is liye kartvya ke palan me kami rah> > jati hai. Iska upay kya hai.> >> >> > Rampal Ladha

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We get attracted to objects on account of illusory conception of

their ability to provide us happiness.

First we create an imagination of particular object and then assume

that the object has really performed in the imagined way.We create

attraction for objects. Objects may be attractive to some and same

objects repulsive to someone else.To same person an object may be

attractive sometime and repulsive other time.Then living in world we

shall encounter all sorts. The inward, outword, guru, god ... many

more complications ...... Do we really need to create all this in our life ?

Let us know and understand the Truth

 

 

-- In , " pratapbhatt " <pratapbhatt

wrote:

>

> Dear Ones, pranaam: My Model so to speak....

>

> The world and its objects are attractive, sure, as they have been

thus

> created so to speak. Problem doesn't lie there but rather here

within

> us. THe root of the problem has to be found rather than to get

> frustrated/attratced by objects which don't have attractions or

> distractions in and of themselves.

>

> I assume due to conditioning that I am a separate individual

physically

> and psychologically. This is not our real experience but is a

belief

> only handed over by environment. This separation from whole causes

me to

> feel incomplete.

>

> SO all my actions originate from this misunderstanding making me

fill my

> perceived incompleteness thru objects, and people I can use

related or

> not. THe basic lack gives rise to desires for wanting to be

complete.

>

> THen I get attached to people and objects as I look to them for my

> psychological satisfaction only thus making me selfish in my life

> pursuits.

>

> When I understand this root of the problem then I turn inward as

if

> thru grace of God/Guru/spiritual friend/Gita etc etc.

>

> I see now that oh, I am not this individual but rather

Consciousness

> which is not my own personal but we share. THis is a journey of

course.

> Miind asks lots of questions to hold me to this person which is

> collective conditioning I consider to be mine and me.

>

> If one can break this by admitting a possibility that I that I

thought

> I am is not true but really is this impersonal consciousness(Chit)

> within (Only constant in all my experiences, never leave me during

> waking/dreaming/deep sleep states), and the outside so called

world is

> only a whole Being(sat) THen both realities of within amd without

merge

> in one whole reality of Bliss.

>

> At this time I feel full naturally and personal desires vanish,

Lila,

> play of God Consciousness is what I experience at body-mind level.

> Objects and people now take on extraordinary meaning rather than

drag on

> us!(only love)

>

> Need we say more?

> , " Manjula Patel " <manjumaa@>

wrote:

> >

> > Loving Divine,

> > Pranam.

> > Hummmm..., *aap khud jyaani hen*, aap upaaya jaante hen, aap

bahut hi

> > achhese jaante hen ki aapko kyaa karnaa he lekin karte nahi

hen...

> Agar

> > Bhagwaan kud aakar aapko salaah denge to vo bhi bekaar hogi

kyonki aap

> > anpeko badalanaa hi nahi chaahte hen!!! Agar aap vachan ke pakke

hen,

> aap

> > sahi me badalanaa chaahte hen to hi kuch upaaya kiya jaa saktaa

he

> verna

> > kisike shabdon kaa koi mole nahi he.

> > Love always,

> > always at Thy Holy Feet

> >

> >

> > On 15 Dec 2006 12:33:46 -0000, Rampal Laddha rplca67@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sadhak

> > >

> > > Pranam

> > >

> > > Sansarik padartho me askati kam nahi hoti hai. Is liye

pramatma me

> prem

> > > nahi ho pata. Meri dhan(rupayo) ke prati lalsa jyda hai. Lobh

ke

> karan pap

> > > bhi hota aur sangrah ki vrati hoti hai. Is liye kartvya ke

palan me

> kami rah

> > > jati hai. Iska upay kya hai.

> > >

> > >

> > > Rampal Ladha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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