Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Is Gita for Humanity at large or Hindus only? Is it for any caste within Hindus? It must depend on what is mentioned in it. I'm asking this question because I know very little about the Gita. There are some spiritual books and practices which are limited to a particular caste within a religion or require conversion, therefore I am seeking clarification with this question. -------------------- from MODERATOR The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions. 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures to substantiate the response 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up to twenty line maximum, if possible). 3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand. 4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizations MODERATOR Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Gita is for everyone. It is not for Hindus or Brahmins only. Do not worry about caste, creed, gender or any thing else. If you look at ISKCON popularly known as Hare Krishna movement you will see followers from all walks of life, different nationality, color, gender etc. Srimad Bhagvat Gita (song of God) is for everyone. So please start reading instead of wasting valuable time in irrelevant questions. (If you believe it is for particular caste or religion then also you are not going to loose any thing) Gita is a manual for human beings. If you understand and progress to surrendering to Krishna (bhakti) then you will guide rest of humanity about sweetness of Gita. My intentions are not telling you any thing about Gita but to remove the obstacles you are facing to start reading Gita. Already you wasted time, do not waste anymore. Hope this helps. GOvind Madhav Das -- Priya Bandhujan and Bhaginya Saadar Pranaam Raam Raam I am giving the views on Gita based on my views and my foul mind's understanding of the holy scriptures. Hope you will forgive and bless and grace me for my mistakes. Gita is not only for Hindus or any caste within Hindus,its for the entire Humanity,even thats the matter of Reading and/or Purpose. Consider Holy Vedas, only Dvijya can read the Holy Vedas no one else,But Vedas are for the sake of entire Shrishti. But Gita is a part of Mahabharatha which is one of the ITIHASA, (there are two ITIHASAS,one is Valmiki Ramayan and other is Mahabharatha.) Entire humanity has got the right to read the ITIHASAS according to Holy SMRITIES. So no matter who you are,which religion you follow you can read The Holy Gita and attain the God by adopting the way described in Gita. Seeking forgiveness for my mistakes. Your Das Rajan Ram Ram - I too beleive that dear sir, that the Bhagwat-gita is for everybody.......in fact i believe that everybody should be allowed to approach god.... regards, kanishk -- Ram Baluji, This is very popular opinion that Gita is for anyone and everyone and is not restricted to any religion. It feels nice, but the reality is that Gita is a text of Sanatana Dharma and useful for followers of Sanatana Dharma. The principles laid in the Gita do not belong to a Christian or Jew person. One of the founding thought of Gita is reincarnation which no Abrahimic religions believe in. Another is therory of Karma and Dharma, which are unknown to many other religions. At the most one can say that Gita is a book for Dharmic religions. You see now you can say Oh! other religions do not know that but it belongs to them too. That is a same argument made by other religions that Hindus just do not know but Jesus is the God and only through him the salvation. Now does Gita have verses which are compatible with other relgions and thus apply to followers of other religions? Sure. But then there are many things in the Bible, Quran, Torah which apply to Hindus too. Regards, Sudhir Kalra -- Jai Shri Krishna 1st of all I would like to say Jai Shri Krishna In hindu DHARMA there is no special place for any one. Any one can read any holy book. It is not limited to Pandits and Brahmins. Arun Agarwal Jai Shri Krishna From: sri_ram_baluDate: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:54:38 +0000 Who can follow The Gita ? Is Gita for Humanity at large or Hindus only? Is it for any caste within Hindus? It must depend on what is mentioned in it. I'm asking this question because I know very little about the Gita. There are some spiritual books and practices which are limited to a particular caste within a religion or require conversion, therefore I am seeking clarification with this question. --------------------from MODERATORThe following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions.1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures tosubstantiate the response2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up totwenty line maximum, if possible).3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand.4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizationsMODERATORRam Ram Live Search: Better results, fast Try it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Namaste: Gita is teaching us what our true identity is, what this world we live in is, and what God is experiencially. Then It teaches us how to get there. In Gita , Lord Krishna need not be considered historical figure, even though he was. He is Pure Consciousness which we all share or rather are! An individual thinks in ignorance that his/her identity is body just by thinking and believing it to be true. These beliefs in turn become Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Indians, Chinees, Europeans etc etc. Thses condition/limits us and result into suffering as we know well. So to be happy we need to be free from false identifications regardless of our castes, religions, nationalities, and other such identities. This is Gita's teaching in summary. Therefore it is for all mankind, those of us who want to be happy, peaceful, loving human beings. Since it is not restricted to Hindus, it cannot be restricted to any castes. One suggestion: Gita can be best understood in its true spirit by such well versed/realized teachers as Swami Ramsukhdasji or others rather than reading only which is the next best thing. , "sri_ram_balu" <sri_ram_balu wrote:>> Is Gita for Humanity at large or Hindus only? Is it for any caste within Hindus? It must depend on what is mentioned in it. I'm asking this question because I know very little about the Gita. There are some spiritual books and practices which are limited to a particular caste within a religion or require conversion, therefore I am seeking clarification with this question.> --------------------> > from MODERATOR> > The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions.> > 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures to> substantiate the response> > 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up to> twenty line maximum, if possible).> > 3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand.> > 4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizations> > MODERATOR> Ram Ram> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 In Chapter 4, v-1 Lord describes that this knowledge has been in existent for long time. At that time there were no religions or castes. This knowledge got lost with time and HE imparted this knowledge again to humanity via Arjuna. In Chapter 9, v-32 Lord assures members of Vashya and Shudra caste as well as women and any one else who may think that they are not eligible to recieve Gitaji's teachings, He says, as long as they surrender to HIM they will attain him just like Brahmins,the Pure ones and Rajrishis etc (Ch9, v-33). Lord also describes who is not to be told about Gitaji. Ch 18, v 67 describes the type of person who is not an ADHIKARI of being told about the knowledge in Gitaji. Several verses throughout Gita describe the qualifications of a devotee. Too many verses to enumerate. Basic message from all thsoe verses is that if you offer all your actions and thoughts to me than you are my true bhakta. Nowhere does HE say this knowledge is only for Hindus. HE always uses the terms Manushyanam, Jiwanam, Sarvabhutanam etc. Many people around the world from all different religions and countries have approached Gitaji with Shraddha and have benefitted from It's teachings. Humbly submitted Jag Aggarwal , " sri_ram_balu " <sri_ram_balu wrote: > > Is Gita for Humanity at large or Hindus only? Is it for any caste within Hindus? It must depend on what is mentioned in it. I'm asking this question because I know very little about the Gita. There are some spiritual books and practices which are limited to a particular caste within a religion or require conversion, therefore I am seeking clarification with this question. > -------------------- > > from MODERATOR > > The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions. > > 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures to > substantiate the response > > 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up to > twenty line maximum, if possible). > > 3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand. > > 4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizations > > MODERATOR > Ram Ram > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Hello mr.Sri, This is my understanding of Gita. Gita is for anyone and everyone. It encompasses everything and so not restricted to a particular religion. WHen Lord Krishna talks to Arjuna, it says..'Bhagavan uvacha'..that is..He is talking as SUPREME being and not just as a cowboy or Vrindavan's Krishna. Sometimes, a person from the religion(other than hindu also) may be practising the things said/mentioned in Gita..but in Hinduism, we call in Gita with our understanding of God in the personal physical form and it is Lord Krishna here. God when we say..the SUPREME being is not limited to language,caste,religion at all. Gita gives the idea of the nature of human mind and how to quieten it to get the bliss/happiness we humans are looking for. It shows us the path to handle the situation with equipoised mind irrespective of what comes our way. (At one time or the other..we begin to thing why this or that is happening..) and so, sometimes we feel that things are not in our control and we tend to brood over them or getting depressed. But the person who is equipoised (or in yoga as per Gita), enjoys everything that comes his/her way. Afterall, in the ordinary sense, enjoying the present moment is what is important as past and future are out of scope with respect to present moment. Gita gives us reminders/understanding the nature of human mind and the way human intellect works. Also, u may have heard 'renounce' work many times in Gita too..(many people if they do not understand the word 'renounce' properly, they may think...its not for youngsters but only elderly..) but what I feel is..'renounce' word can be interpreted in any different way. In Karma Yoga (chapter 3), Lord says..Renounce the fruits of actions (so that out mind is relaxed and not worried about future). In chapter 4, twelve ways are described for renouncing..(like some renounce sense actions, some other sense organs, some others wealth, some others - by regulated breathing techniques, some others by regulating inputs etc etc..). Have a nice wonderful day Regards.sri_ram_balu <sri_ram_balu wrote: Is Gita for Humanity at large or Hindus only? Is it for any caste within Hindus? It must depend on what is mentioned in it. I'm asking this question because I know very little about the Gita. There are some spiritual books and practices which are limited to a particular caste within a religion or require conversion, therefore I am seeking clarification with this question. --------------------from MODERATORThe following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions.1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures tosubstantiate the response2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up totwenty line maximum, if possible).3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand.4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizationsMODERATORRam Ram Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Dear Sir, I am not a pundit (all-knowng) in Gita but I can say with conviction that it is meant for any and everybody. There is no restriction of any kind. I think that there is no religious text which sets a pre-condition to read it. For knowledge one only needs to be a seeker and nothing else. I have not found at any place in the text a pre-condition to a person for reading Gita. I appreciate your concern and sensitivity. Thanks and regards, A Seeker On 2/13/07, sri_ram_balu <sri_ram_balu wrote: Is Gita for Humanity at large or Hindus only? Is it for any caste within Hindus? It must depend on what is mentioned in it. I'm asking this question because I know very little about the Gita. There are some spiritual books and practices which are limited to a particular caste within a religion or require conversion, therefore I am seeking clarification with this question. --------------------from MODERATORThe following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions.1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures tosubstantiate the response 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up totwenty line maximum, if possible).3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand.4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizations MODERATORRam Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Sri Ram: I don't know which reading you follow, but Gita is Universal - Eternal. It is not limited to Hindus or limited to any caste within Hindu. It is for the entire humankind....Any scriptures written in a language not commonly understable by people require translation, for example Vedas, Gita, Upnishads, smruti shruti, etc. are written in sanscrit, not a commonly understood language. "sri_ram_balu" <sri_ram_balu To: Subject: Who can follow The Gita ?Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:54:38 -0000 Is Gita for Humanity at large or Hindus only? Is it for any caste within Hindus? It must depend on what is mentioned in it. I'm asking this question because I know very little about the Gita. There are some spiritual books and practices which are limited to a particular caste within a religion or require conversion, therefore I am seeking clarification with this question. --------------------from MODERATORThe following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions.1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures tosubstantiate the response2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up totwenty line maximum, if possible).3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand.4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizationsMODERATORRam Ram Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into something more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Ram Ram,THE LORD KRISHNA(NARAYAN), has propounded the teachings of Geeta for the well-being of mankind and mankind only. Sri Arjun is the prime audience who is a Human (NAR). The speeches of Shri Geeta were given not in a Temple or Place of Worship but at the Battle Ground of Kurukshetra (our Karma Bhoomi - place of work and action). The Time chosen for this teaching by the LORD is at the beginning of KALIYUG with the Battle of MAHABHARATA (the difficulties of this vast world) set in the back ground. So the Place ,Time and Object (Desh, Kaal, Patra) all are unrelated to any particular religion, caste or creed. Let us also look at some verses from Shri Geeta. Ch15V7 - The LORD says - All the life (human, animals, plants and so on) in this world are only MY Eternal Very Own Part (ansha). He does not say All Hindu or All Brahmins of India or Delhi but He says ....Jeeva Lokay Jeeva Bhutah, which means All Life in this WORLD.Sarva-bhoot-hitay-rata (Ch5v25 & Ch 12v4), Sarva-yonisu (ch14v4), Sarva-Dehinam (Ch14v8), sarva-bhoota-atma-bhoota-atmaa (Ch5v7), Sarva-Lok-Maheswaram(Ch5v29), Suhridam-Sarva Bhootanam (Ch5,29) and so on. The LORD, by repeatedly using the word " SARVA " , has a very broad vision (vyapak) not limited to country, caste, creed or religion. Shri Geeta is for anyone and every one who want to attain the prime objective of birth (coming into this world).With very kind regards,Sushil JalanOn 2/14/07, Anil Anand Pathak <anil.anand wrote: Dear Sir, I am not a pundit (all-knowng) in Gita but I can say with conviction that it is meant for any and everybody. There is no restriction of any kind. I think that there is no religious text which sets a pre-condition to read it. For knowledge one only needs to be a seeker and nothing else. I have not found at any place in the text a pre-condition to a person for reading Gita. I appreciate your concern and sensitivity. Thanks and regards, A Seeker On 2/13/07, sri_ram_balu <sri_ram_balu > wrote: Is Gita for Humanity at large or Hindus only? Is it for any caste within Hindus? It must depend on what is mentioned in it. I'm asking this question because I know very little about the Gita. There are some spiritual books and practices which are limited to a particular caste within a religion or require conversion, therefore I am seeking clarification with this question. --------------------from MODERATORThe following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions.1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures to substantiate the response 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up totwenty line maximum, if possible).3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand.4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizations MODERATORRam Ram -- Sushil Kumar JalanHutch +91.98.115.99944Reliance +91.93.115.99944 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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