Guest guest Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Somewhere in the Gita , in the sacred discourse between Sri Krisna and Sri Arjuna , there is a sentence where Sri Krisna says something similar to : " amongst the sins I am gambling ... " . Can somebody inform me exactly where in the Gita this statement can be found ? I was unable to locate it in my present copy of the translation but I believe that I read the above statement in another translation 15 years previously , which now unfortunately has been misplaced . Thank you and Hari Om From " hitashraj " Ram Ram > > > from MODERATOR > > The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions. > > 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures to > substantiate the response > > 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up to > twenty line maximum, if possible). > > 3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand. > > 4. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizations > > 5. Please do not include your personal information such as phone > number, address etc. > > 6. Kindly do not address the response to a particular individual, > since the message is going to the entire group. > > MODERATOR > Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Divine One: It occus in Chapter 10 verse 36. " dyutam chhalayatAm asmi... " The Lord is Highest and greatest of everything and being. He is the Source of all. Now the question is why Lord says that. Yudhisthira, even though he had many good qualities, he had weakness for " dyuta kriDA " or dice game. He was so absorbed and attached to that game and its effect that he suffered immensely for that. Hence the lesson is that one should be careful of one's weakness and there is every possibility that weakness may land in trouble. Hence the surrender is the key. The role of negativeness in this world is to get the drama going. There should be both positive and negative. One should focus on the good to go beyond good. Please refer to " nirdwandwa nitya satwastha niryoga khesma AtmabAn " (Chapter 2, verse 45, in Gita). The Lord taught a big lesson to kauravas by defeating them in their game of deceit. Why did He do that? He had the capability and that was the only way Kauravas understood? Should we emulate it? May be not because one may not have the capability of Lord to deal with that. The best way to deal with the negative is do use positive. One should do what Lord says to do not what He does. I will give an example. He has the capability to lift Govardhana Hills by his pinkie, so He can deal with Indra. So one has to be within one's limit. The best way is to surrender (kAya, mana, vAkya) in body, mind, words and in every way to the Lord. Then what is surrender? Surrender is simply do your best for the good and leave the rest to the Lord. One has right over the means but not on the fruit thereof. That doesn't mean that one is not aware of Goal. But obession with the goal loses focus on the means. That results in failure. Thank you! humble regards -m -- Hare Krishna, You can find this in BG 10.36, " I am also the gambling of cheats, and of the splendid I am the splendor. I am victory, I am adventure, and I am the strength of the strong. " Ganesh Bulbule -- Mahaveer Khetawat Bhagwat Gita Chapter 10 verse # 36 - " Dhutam chhalayatam asmi -- 10-36. Hemendra Parikh -- ahdalmia Please see Adhyaya 10 Shloka 36 " Dyutam Chalayatamasmi.... " -- vipin2k0892002 Kindly see in chapter 10. Hari Om Vipin -- >sadhak_insight > > > gita and gambling >Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:27:20 -0000 > >Somewhere in the Gita , in the sacred discourse between Sri Krisna and >Sri Arjuna , there is a sentence where Sri Krisna says something >similar to : " amongst the sins I am gambling ... " . Can somebody >inform me exactly where in the Gita this statement can be found ? I >was unable to locate it in my present copy of the translation but I >believe that I read the above statement in another translation 15 years >previously , which now unfortunately has been misplaced . Thank you and >Hari Om >From " hitashraj " > > Ram Ram > > > > > > from MODERATOR > > > > The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions. > > > > 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures to > > substantiate the response > > > > 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up to > > twenty line maximum, if possible). > > > > 3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand. > > > > 4. Please do not include links to other sites or other >organizations > > > > 5. Please do not include your personal information such as phone > > number, address etc. > > > > 6. Kindly do not address the response to a particular individual, > > since the message is going to the entire group. > > > > MODERATOR > > Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Dear Friends: Namaskaram. The statement: " amongst the sins I am gambling ... " . is wrong. Verse in Chapter 10 verse 36 is: dyutam ChhalayatAm ....... is actually carries a different meaning It is not SINS -- I am not a Sanskrit Scholar or a ny expert in Hindu Religion. We need to see the inner meaning of the verses and the Divine message. " Among gamblers I am the Dice " means " among those who gamble and try to take the chance in their lives, I am the Dice " - the Supreme God is the one who determines the Chance of getting the success or failure in all our activities including the gambling or taking chances without thinking. In all our Puranas and Texts like Ramayana, Mahabharata and Srimad Bhagavad Gita there is an outward meaning for each staement and there is a philosophical inner meaning. Even the very first verse is not just a statement but has an inner meaning. If Kurukshetra is a " Dharmakshetra " - then why is there a War or fight with misery? Bala N. Aiyer --- Manoj Panda <pandamanoj wrote: > Divine One: > > It occus in Chapter 10 verse 36. > > " dyutam chhalayatAm asmi... " > > The Lord is Highest and greatest of everything and being. He is the > Source > of all. Now the question is why Lord says that. > > Yudhisthira, even though he had many good qualities, he had weakness for > > " dyuta kriDA " or dice game. He was so absorbed and attached to that game > and > its effect that he suffered immensely for that. Hence the lesson is that > one > should be careful of one's weakness and there is every possibility that > weakness may land in trouble. Hence the surrender is the key. > > The role of negativeness in this world is to get the drama going. There > should be both positive and negative. One should focus on the good to go > > beyond good. Please refer to " nirdwandwa nitya satwastha niryoga khesma > AtmabAn " (Chapter 2, verse 45, in Gita). > > The Lord taught a big lesson to kauravas by defeating them in their game > of > deceit. Why did He do that? He had the capability and that was the only > way > Kauravas understood? > > Should we emulate it? May be not because one may not have the capability > of > Lord to deal with that. The best way to deal with the negative is do use > > positive. > > One should do what Lord says to do not what He does. I will give an > example. > He has the capability to lift Govardhana Hills by his pinkie, so He can > deal > with Indra. So one has to be within one's limit. > > The best way is to surrender (kAya, mana, vAkya) in body, mind, words > and in > every way to the Lord. > > Then what is surrender? Surrender is simply do your best for the good > and > leave the rest to the Lord. One has right over the means but not on the > fruit thereof. That doesn't mean that one is not aware of Goal. But > obession > with the goal loses focus on the means. That results in failure. > > Thank you! > > humble regards > -m > -- > Hare Krishna, > > You can find this in BG 10.36, " I am also the gambling of cheats, and of > the splendid I am the splendor. I am victory, I am adventure, and I am > the strength of the strong. " > > Ganesh Bulbule > -- > > Mahaveer Khetawat > Bhagwat Gita Chapter 10 verse # 36 - " Dhutam chhalayatam asmi > > -- > 10-36. > Hemendra Parikh > -- > ahdalmia > Please see Adhyaya 10 Shloka 36 " Dyutam Chalayatamasmi.... " > -- > vipin2k0892002 > Kindly see in chapter 10. > Hari Om > Vipin > -- > > >sadhak_insight > > > > > > gita and gambling > >Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:27:20 -0000 > > > >Somewhere in the Gita , in the sacred discourse between Sri Krisna and > >Sri Arjuna , there is a sentence where Sri Krisna says something > >similar to : " amongst the sins I am gambling ... " . Can somebody > >inform me exactly where in the Gita this statement can be found ? I > >was unable to locate it in my present copy of the translation but I > >believe that I read the above statement in another translation 15 years > >previously , which now unfortunately has been misplaced . Thank you and > >Hari Om > >From " hitashraj " > > > > Ram Ram > > > > > > > > > from MODERATOR > > > > > > The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions. > > > > > > 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or other scriptures to > > > substantiate the response > > > > > > 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up to > > > twenty line maximum, if possible). > > > > > > 3. Please limit discussions to subject at hand. > > > > > > 4. Please do not include links to other sites or other > >organizations > > > > > > 5. Please do not include your personal information such as phone > > > number, address etc. > > > > > > 6. Kindly do not address the response to a particular individual, > > > since the message is going to the entire group. > > > > > > MODERATOR > > > Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Dear Sadhak friends, in my understanding it simply means that Krishna says I am the essence of all that appear to exist even cunningness of all who gamble and cheat! He uses the example of gambling to emphasize His point, being the reality of everything imaginable. World and its objects cannot exist and experienced independent of God(Consciousness Absolute) perceiving/conceiving through each mind, and therefore God is its only Reality. Namaskar.... Pratap --- " Bala N. Aiyer " <bnaiyer wrote: > Dear Friends: > Namaskaram. > The statement: " amongst the sins I am gambling > ... " . is wrong. > Verse in Chapter 10 verse 36 is: dyutam ChhalayatAm > ....... is actually > carries a different meaning It is not SINS -- I am > not a Sanskrit Scholar > or a ny expert in Hindu Religion. We need to see the > inner meaning of the > verses and the Divine message. > > " Among gamblers I am the Dice " means " among those > who gamble and try to > take the chance in their lives, I am the Dice " - the > Supreme God is the > one who determines the Chance of getting the success > or failure in all our > activities including the gambling or taking chances > without thinking. > > In all our Puranas and Texts like Ramayana, > Mahabharata and Srimad > Bhagavad Gita there is an outward meaning for each > staement and there is a > philosophical inner meaning. Even the very first > verse is not just a > statement but has an inner meaning. If Kurukshetra > is a " Dharmakshetra " - > then why is there a War or fight with misery? > > Bala N. Aiyer > > > > --- Manoj Panda <pandamanoj wrote: > > > Divine One: > > > > It occus in Chapter 10 verse 36. > > > > " dyutam chhalayatAm asmi... " > > > > The Lord is Highest and greatest of everything and > being. He is the > > Source > > of all. Now the question is why Lord says that. > > > > Yudhisthira, even though he had many good > qualities, he had weakness for > > > > " dyuta kriDA " or dice game. He was so absorbed and > attached to that game > > and > > its effect that he suffered immensely for that. > Hence the lesson is that > > one > > should be careful of one's weakness and there is > every possibility that > > weakness may land in trouble. Hence the surrender > is the key. > > > > The role of negativeness in this world is to get > the drama going. There > > should be both positive and negative. One should > focus on the good to go > > > > beyond good. Please refer to " nirdwandwa nitya > satwastha niryoga khesma > > AtmabAn " (Chapter 2, verse 45, in Gita). > > > > The Lord taught a big lesson to kauravas by > defeating them in their game > > of > > deceit. Why did He do that? He had the capability > and that was the only > > way > > Kauravas understood? > > > > Should we emulate it? May be not because one may > not have the capability > > of > > Lord to deal with that. The best way to deal with > the negative is do use > > > > positive. > > > > One should do what Lord says to do not what He > does. I will give an > > example. > > He has the capability to lift Govardhana Hills by > his pinkie, so He can > > deal > > with Indra. So one has to be within one's limit. > > > > The best way is to surrender (kAya, mana, vAkya) > in body, mind, words > > and in > > every way to the Lord. > > > > Then what is surrender? Surrender is simply do > your best for the good > > and > > leave the rest to the Lord. One has right over the > means but not on the > > fruit thereof. That doesn't mean that one is not > aware of Goal. But > > obession > > with the goal loses focus on the means. That > results in failure. > > > > Thank you! > > > > humble regards > > -m > > > -- > > Hare Krishna, > > > > You can find this in BG 10.36, " I am also the > gambling of cheats, and of > > the splendid I am the splendor. I am victory, I am > adventure, and I am > > the strength of the strong. " > > > > Ganesh Bulbule > > > -- > > > > Mahaveer Khetawat > > Bhagwat Gita Chapter 10 verse # 36 - " > Dhutam chhalayatam asmi > > > > > -- > > 10-36. > > Hemendra Parikh > > > -- > > ahdalmia > > Please see Adhyaya 10 Shloka 36 " Dyutam > Chalayatamasmi.... " > > > -- > > vipin2k0892002 > > Kindly see in chapter 10. > > Hari Om > > Vipin > > > -- > > > > >sadhak_insight > > > > > > > > > gita and gambling > > >Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:27:20 -0000 > > > > > >Somewhere in the Gita , in the sacred discourse > between Sri Krisna and > > >Sri Arjuna , there is a sentence where Sri > Krisna says something > > >similar to : " amongst the sins I am gambling > ... " . Can somebody > > >inform me exactly where in the Gita this > statement can be found ? I > > >was unable to locate it in my present copy of the > translation but I > > >believe that I read the above statement in > another translation 15 years > > >previously , which now unfortunately has been > misplaced . Thank you and > > >Hari Om > > >From " hitashraj " > > > > > > Ram Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > from MODERATOR > > > > > > > > The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk > discussions. > > > > > > > > 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or > other scriptures to > > > > substantiate the response > > > > > > > > 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to > the point. (Up to > > > > twenty line maximum, if possible). > > > > > > > > 3. Please limit discussions to subject at > hand. > > > > > > > > 4. Please do not include links to other sites > or other > > >organizations > > > > > > > > 5. Please do not include your personal > information such as phone > > > > number, address etc. > > > > > > > > 6. Kindly do not address the response to a > particular individual, > > > > since the message is going to the entire > group. > > > > > > > > MODERATOR > > > > Ram Ram > ______________________________\ ____ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Dear All in Gita Group, Love and Love alone.... God is beyond good or bad or for that matter, He is beyond all kinds of gunas. Having created this universe, HE keeps away from it by 10 angulas (10 inches), says Purusha Sooktam. The same has been differently para-phrased in Srimad Bhagavad Gita. Having said the above, now, the question is gambling. HE is the Essence of the best, whether it is good or bad, but that good or bad does not touch HIM. It is a bit difficult to understand. Is it not? But, it is like this only. Love and Love alone.... P. Gopi KrishnaPratap Bhatt ; wrote: Dear Sadhak friends, in my understanding it simplymeans that Krishna says I am the essence of all thatappear to exist even cunningness of all who gamble andcheat! He uses the example of gambling to emphasizeHis point, being the reality of everything imaginable.World and its objects cannot exist and experienced independent of God(Consciousness Absolute)perceiving/conceiving through each mind, and thereforeGod is its only Reality. Namaskar.... Pratap--- "Bala N. Aiyer" .com> wrote:> Dear Friends:> Namaskaram.> The statement: " amongst the sins I am gambling> ...". is wrong.> Verse in Chapter 10 verse 36 is: dyutam ChhalayatAm> ....... is actually> carries a different meaning It is not SINS -- I am> not a Sanskrit Scholar> or a ny expert in Hindu Religion. We need to see the> inner meaning of the> verses and the Divine message.> > "Among gamblers I am the Dice" means "among those> who gamble and try to> take the chance in their lives, I am the Dice" - the> Supreme God is the> one who determines the Chance of getting the success> or failure in all our> activities including the gambling or taking chances> without thinking.> > In all our Puranas and Texts like Ramayana,> Mahabharata and Srimad> Bhagavad Gita there is an outward meaning for each> staement and there is a> philosophical inner meaning. Even the very first> verse is not just a> statement but has an inner meaning. If Kurukshetra> is a "Dharmakshetra" -> then why is there a War or fight with misery?> > Bala N. Aiyer> > > > --- Manoj Panda <pandamanoj (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Divine One:> > > > It occus in Chapter 10 verse 36.> > > > "dyutam chhalayatAm asmi..."> > > > The Lord is Highest and greatest of everything and> being. He is the> > Source > > of all. Now the question is why Lord says that.> > > > Yudhisthira, even though he had many good> qualities, he had weakness for> > > > "dyuta kriDA" or dice game. He was so absorbed and> attached to that game> > and > > its effect that he suffered immensely for that.> Hence the lesson is that> > one > > should be careful of one's weakness and there is> every possibility that > > weakness may land in trouble. Hence the surrender> is the key.> > > > The role of negativeness in this world is to get> the drama going. There > > should be both positive and negative. One should> focus on the good to go> > > > beyond good. Please refer to "nirdwandwa nitya> satwastha niryoga khesma > > AtmabAn" (Chapter 2, verse 45, in Gita).> > > > The Lord taught a big lesson to kauravas by> defeating them in their game> > of > > deceit. Why did He do that? He had the capability> and that was the only> > way > > Kauravas understood?> > > > Should we emulate it? May be not because one may> not have the capability> > of > > Lord to deal with that. The best way to deal with> the negative is do use> > > > positive.> > > > One should do what Lord says to do not what He> does. I will give an> > example. > > He has the capability to lift Govardhana Hills by> his pinkie, so He can> > deal > > with Indra. So one has to be within one's limit.> > > > The best way is to surrender (kAya, mana, vAkya)> in body, mind, words> > and in > > every way to the Lord.> > > > Then what is surrender? Surrender is simply do> your best for the good> > and > > leave the rest to the Lord. One has right over the> means but not on the > > fruit thereof. That doesn't mean that one is not> aware of Goal. But> > obession > > with the goal loses focus on the means. That> results in failure.> > > > Thank you!> > > > humble regards> > -m> >>-------------------------> > Hare Krishna,> > > > You can find this in BG 10.36, "I am also the> gambling of cheats, and of> > the splendid I am the splendor. I am victory, I am> adventure, and I am> > the strength of the strong."> > > > Ganesh Bulbule> >>-------------------------> > > > Mahaveer Khetawat> > Bhagwat Gita Chapter 10 verse # 36 - " > Dhutam chhalayatam asmi> > > >>-------------------------> > 10-36.> > Hemendra Parikh> >>-------------------------> > ahdalmia> > Please see Adhyaya 10 Shloka 36 " Dyutam> Chalayatamasmi...."> >>-------------------------> > vipin2k0892002> > Kindly see in chapter 10.> > Hari Om> > Vipin> >>-------------------------> > > > >sadhak_insight > > > > > > > > > gita and gambling> > >Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:27:20 -0000> > >> > >Somewhere in the Gita , in the sacred discourse> between Sri Krisna and> > >Sri Arjuna , there is a sentence where Sri> Krisna says something> > >similar to : " amongst the sins I am gambling> ...". Can somebody> > >inform me exactly where in the Gita this> statement can be found ? I> > >was unable to locate it in my present copy of the> translation but I> > >believe that I read the above statement in> another translation 15 years> > >previously , which now unfortunately has been> misplaced . Thank you and> > >Hari Om> > >From "hitashraj"> > >> > > Ram Ram> > > >> > > >> > > > from MODERATOR> > > >> > > > The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk> discussions.> > > >> > > > 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or> other scriptures to> > > > substantiate the response> > > >> > > > 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to> the point. (Up to> > > > twenty line maximum, if possible).> > > >> > > > 3. Please limit discussions to subject at> hand.> > > >> > > > 4. Please do not include links to other sites> or other> > >organizations> > > >> > > > 5. Please do not include your personal> information such as phone> > > > number, address etc.> > > >> > > > 6. Kindly do not address the response to a> particular individual,> > > > since the message is going to the entire> group.> > > >> > > > MODERATOR> > > > Ram Ram> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Dear all, Radhe Krishna! Chapter 10 of the Gita talks about the "Vibhutis" or glories of the Lord, in the words of the Lord Himself. After elucidating the glories, in sloka 40, He says that "there is no limit to my manifestations, this (what I have said) is only a brief description by Me, of the extent of My glory". This chapter is followed by the Viswarupa darsana. The glorious vision of "Viswa-rupa" or the "Virat Swarupa" which Arjuna has, as described in chapter 11 is the form of the Lord comprising the entire universe, and wherein, every living being is represented. It is the "Samashti" form of all the Jivatmans put together, and is the manifestation of all the three gunas or attributes of nature, the Sattva, Rajas and Tamas. It is "Tri-gunatmakam". The good, the bad, the honest man, the knave, the fiercest lion, the gentlest lamb, are all present in the Virat swarupa. As the universe comprises good and bad, and the Virat-swarupa is the cosmic form of the Lord, we have to understand that all that we see in the universe is part of the Lord and present in the Lord. Commenting on sloka 36, chapter 10, Shri. Jayadayal Goyandka says: Quote: "God is present in all living beings and objects, good, bad or indifferent, existing in this world. It is His presence and inspiration that lend activity to the whole creation. There is hardly any substance which is devoid of the presence or power of God. Of all such things and objects exhibiting the Sattvika, Rajasika and Tamasika qualities, only that being or object which is possessed of some extraordinary virtue and special attraction exhibits the presence and power of God in a special degree. It is from this point of view that the Lord has briefly mentioned in this connection, even abstract ideas and virtues like victory, resolution, glory, righteousness along with sentient beings like gods, demons, men, beasts, birds and serpents, etc., and inanimate objects like the thunderbolt, senses, mind and ocean. It is for brevity's sake that the Lord has mentioned only the main categories or groups. The intention is to show that whatever being, object, action or concept may be thought of, He alone should be contemplated in that form. It is from this point of view, and not with the object of extolling gambling and encouraging people to practise it, that, of all deceitful practices the Lord declares it to be His own self. It is in this connection it should be remembered that the Lord speaks of the most ferocious and blood-thirsty lion and shark as well as the all-consuming fire and all-devouring death as His very self. This does not mean that anybody should take into his head to play with a lion or a shark, jump into fire or deliberately enter the jaws of death. The objection that lies in adopting these courses of action holds good in the case of gambling as well."----unquote. Regards K.V. Gopalakrishna. Pratap Bhatt wrote: Dear Sadhak friends, in my understanding it simply means that Krishna says I am the essence of all that appear to exist even cunningness of all who gamble and cheat! He uses the example of gambling to emphasize His point, being the reality of everything imaginable. World and its objects cannot exist and experienced independent of God(Consciousness Absolute) perceiving/conceiving through each mind, and therefore God is its only Reality. Namaskar.... Pratap --- "Bala N. Aiyer" <bnaiyer > wrote: > Dear Friends: > Namaskaram. > The statement: " amongst the sins I am gambling > ...". is wrong. > Verse in Chapter 10 verse 36 is: dyutam ChhalayatAm > ....... is actually > carries a different meaning It is not SINS -- I am > not a Sanskrit Scholar > or a ny expert in Hindu Religion. We need to see the > inner meaning of the > verses and the Divine message. > > "Among gamblers I am the Dice" means "among those > who gamble and try to > take the chance in their lives, I am the Dice" - the > Supreme God is the > one who determines the Chance of getting the success > or failure in all our > activities including the gambling or taking chances > without thinking. > > In all our Puranas and Texts like Ramayana, > Mahabharata and Srimad > Bhagavad Gita there is an outward meaning for each > staement and there is a > philosophical inner meaning. Even the very first > verse is not just a > statement but has an inner meaning. If Kurukshetra > is a "Dharmakshetra" - > then why is there a War or fight with misery? > > Bala N. Aiyer > > > > --- Manoj Panda <pandamanoj (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > Divine One: > > > > It occus in Chapter 10 verse 36. > > > > "dyutam chhalayatAm asmi..." > > > > The Lord is Highest and greatest of everything and > being. He is the > > Source > > of all. Now the question is why Lord says that. > > > > Yudhisthira, even though he had many good > qualities, he had weakness for > > > > "dyuta kriDA" or dice game. He was so absorbed and > attached to that game > > and > > its effect that he suffered immensely for that. > Hence the lesson is that > > one > > should be careful of one's weakness and there is > every possibility that > > weakness may land in trouble. Hence the surrender > is the key. > > > > The role of negativeness in this world is to get > the drama going. There > > should be both positive and negative. One should > focus on the good to go > > > > beyond good. Please refer to "nirdwandwa nitya > satwastha niryoga khesma > > AtmabAn" (Chapter 2, verse 45, in Gita). > > > > The Lord taught a big lesson to kauravas by > defeating them in their game > > of > > deceit. Why did He do that? He had the capability > and that was the only > > way > > Kauravas understood? > > > > Should we emulate it? May be not because one may > not have the capability > > of > > Lord to deal with that. The best way to deal with > the negative is do use > > > > positive. > > > > One should do what Lord says to do not what He > does. I will give an > > example. > > He has the capability to lift Govardhana Hills by > his pinkie, so He can > > deal > > with Indra. So one has to be within one's limit. > > > > The best way is to surrender (kAya, mana, vAkya) > in body, mind, words > > and in > > every way to the Lord. > > > > Then what is surrender? Surrender is simply do > your best for the good > > and > > leave the rest to the Lord. One has right over the > means but not on the > > fruit thereof. That doesn't mean that one is not > aware of Goal. But > > obession > > with the goal loses focus on the means. That > results in failure. > > > > Thank you! > > > > humble regards > > -m > > > ------------------------- > > Hare Krishna, > > > > You can find this in BG 10.36, "I am also the > gambling of cheats, and of > > the splendid I am the splendor. I am victory, I am > adventure, and I am > > the strength of the strong." > > > > Ganesh Bulbule > > > ------------------------- > > > > Mahaveer Khetawat > > Bhagwat Gita Chapter 10 verse # 36 - " > Dhutam chhalayatam asmi > > > > > ------------------------- > > 10-36. > > Hemendra Parikh > > > ------------------------- > > ahdalmia > > Please see Adhyaya 10 Shloka 36 " Dyutam > Chalayatamasmi...." > > > ------------------------- > > vipin2k0892002 > > Kindly see in chapter 10. > > Hari Om > > Vipin > > > ------------------------- > > > > >sadhak_insight > > > > > > > > > gita and gambling > > >Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:27:20 -0000 > > > > > >Somewhere in the Gita , in the sacred discourse > between Sri Krisna and > > >Sri Arjuna , there is a sentence where Sri > Krisna says something > > >similar to : " amongst the sins I am gambling > ...". Can somebody > > >inform me exactly where in the Gita this > statement can be found ? I > > >was unable to locate it in my present copy of the > translation but I > > >believe that I read the above statement in > another translation 15 years > > >previously , which now unfortunately has been > misplaced . Thank you and > > >Hari Om > > >From "hitashraj" > > > > > > Ram Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > from MODERATOR > > > > > > > > The following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk > discussions. > > > > > > > > 1. Wherever possible, please quote Gita or > other scriptures to > > > > substantiate the response > > > > > > > > 2. Kindly make your responses concise and to > the point. (Up to > > > > twenty line maximum, if possible). > > > > > > > > 3. Please limit discussions to subject at > hand. > > > > > > > > 4. Please do not include links to other sites > or other > > >organizations > > > > > > > > 5. Please do not include your personal > information such as phone > > > > number, address etc. > > > > > > > > 6. Kindly do not address the response to a > particular individual, > > > > since the message is going to the entire > group. > > > > > > > > MODERATOR > > > > Ram Ram > ________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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