RE: Detachment from Selfless Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways?

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Read Sarabangar Moksham in Sri Ramayam and a dog` s story in Ananda Ramayan. If one does Tapas, yaga, meditation Lord says it can take 100s of births to reach the goal. But the same Lord says that HE can give Moksha in same birth if HE wishes. Than that is the short cut. It is the means and methods one should adopt learning from histories of saints who showed the path. S.Danalakshme

---------- Lord Sri Krishna said to Arjuna to do his duty (his karma) and fight the was as a Kshatriya. The mere existence of any one on earth is to do his/her Karmas. Other species besides human birth (animal, insects, birds, plants etc) are exhausting their past vasanas (Karmas). Human birth is rare, where one has ability to discriminate in one's actions. The choice for humans is to either raise themselves by pure thoughts or go back to lower level births. These are clear in Kapila Geetha, Vivekachudamani and Bajagovindam.

Jada Bharatha in Srimath Bagavath was to be beheaded as human sacrifice in front of Kalli. Jada Bharatha remained calm with no sign of fear or resistence. Kalli appeared and killed the kabali tribe, and Bharatha was set free as if nothing took place.

Sant Tukaram was asked by Lord Vishnu (Panduranga) that he would be taken away to Lord's abode. Tukaram asked his wife to accompany him, but she said it is all an illusion, thus Tukaram walked away from home the next day morning without any intimation, and flew away in presence of thousands of people. One can to day visit this place near PUNE.,P>

Namaste

B.Sathyanarayan ----------

Do your duty and surrender the results to the God. Rahul Kumar Pintoo

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"G. Vaidyanathan" <nathangv wrote: Pranams. SERVICE TO HUMANITY IS SERVICE TO GOD. when you do service to god, you should not expect anything as reward, as God knows what is to begiven to you. So also it should be when you do service to humanity. G.Vaidyanathan From: scheel.skj Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:22:25 +0530Re: Detachment from Selfish Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways? Understanding is the whole thing.... detached......simply

means unaffected by any or all events/ happenings. selfless service means detached service to others. A service which increases your happiness is detached service. A service which makes you unhappy for any reason is NOT... Thanks for the opportunity...... baiya sathyanarayan Sun Oct 7, 2007 2:21 am Re:RE: Detachment from Selfish Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways? baiya07_sathya (AT) (DOT) ... Send Message Edit Membership On 10/4/07, sadhak_insight <sadhak_insight > wrote: Shree Hari SHOULD ONE ALSO BECOME DETACHED TO SELFLESS SERVICE?IF YES, WHAT ARE THE WAYS TO BECOME COMPLETELY DETACHED.THANKSR

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>>But the same Lord says that HE can give Moksha in same birth if HE wishes.<<<

 

You mean If WE wish. Lord has already wished this for us.

But even the Lord generally will not, if we are not

serious about this. There is no compulsion in Moksha!

 

K.S. tAtAchAr

 

 

 

Danalakshme Sathyanarayan <sdanalakshme

 

Sun, 7 Oct 2007 2:41 am

RE: Detachment from Selfless Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways?

 

 

Read Sarabangar Moksham in Sri Ramayam and a dog` s story in Ananda Ramayan.

If one does Tapas, yaga, meditation Lord says it can take 100s of births to reach the goal. But the same Lord says that HE can give Moksha in same birth if HE wishes. Than that is the short cut. It is the means and methods one should adopt learning from histories of saints who showed the path.

S.Danalakshme

---------- Lord Sri Krishna said to Arjuna to do his duty (his karma) and fight the was as a Kshatriya. The mere existence of any one on earth is to do his/her Karmas. Other species besides human birth (animal, insects, birds, plants etc) are exhausting their past vasanas (Karmas). Human birth is rare, where one has ability to discriminate in one's actions. The choice for humans is to either raise themselves by pure thoughts or go back to lower level births. These are clear in Kapila Geetha, Vivekachudamani and Bajagovindam. Jada Bharatha in Srimath Bagavath was to be beheaded as human sacrifice in front of Kalli. Jada Bharatha remained calm with no sign of fear or resistence. Kalli appeared and killed the kabali tribe, and Bharatha was set free as if nothing took place. Sant Tukaram was asked by Lord Vishnu (Panduranga) that he would be taken away to Lord's abode. Tukaram asked his wife to accompany him, but she said it is all an illusion, thus Tukaram walked away from home the next day morning without any intimation, and flew away in presence of thousands of people. One can to day visit this place near PUNE.,P> Namaste

B.Sathyanarayan ---------- Do your duty and surrender the results to the God. Rahul Kumar Pintoo ----------

"G. Vaidyanathan" <nathangv wrote:

 

 

 

Pranams. SERVICE TO HUMANITY IS SERVICE TO GOD.

when you do service to

god, you should not expect anything as reward, as God knows what is to begiven to you. So also it should be when you do service to humanity.

G.Vaidyanathan

 

 

 

 

 

scheel.skj

Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:22:25 +0530

Re: Detachment from Selfish Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways?

 

 

 

 

Understanding is the whole thing....

detached......simply means unaffected by any or all events/ happenings.

 

selfless service means detached service to others.

A service which increases your happiness is detached service.

A service which makes you unhappy for any reason is NOT...

 

Thanks for the opportunity......

baiya sathyanarayan Sun Oct 7, 2007 2:21 am Re:RE: Detachment from Selfish Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways? baiya07_sathya (AT) (DOT) ... Send Message Edit Membership

 

 

 

On 10/4/07, sadhak_insight <sadhak_insight > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Shree Hari

 

SHOULD ONE ALSO BECOME DETACHED TO SELFLESS SERVICE?

 

IF YES, WHAT ARE THE WAYS TO BECOME COMPLETELY DETACHED.

 

THANKS

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Yes if you faithfully wish with absolutely NO doubt, then it works. There are saints like that. But mind will wish Moksha and SO MANY THINGS also. The moksha portion will be 0.5% and the worldly portion 99.5%. Your wish for Moksha is when in trouble so it is negligable. On the other hand, your wish for pleasure is not comparable (limitless), so you get birth after birth. B.Sathyanarayan S.Danalakshmetatachar wrote: >>But the same Lord says that HE can give Moksha in same birth if HE wishes.<<<You mean If WE wish. Lord has already wished this for us.But even the Lord generally will not, if we are notserious about this. There is no compulsion in Moksha!K.S. tAtAchArDanalakshme Sathyanarayan <sdanalakshme (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 2:41 amRE: Detachment from Selfless Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways? Read Sarabangar Moksham in Sri Ramayam and a dog` s story in Ananda Ramayan. If one does Tapas, yaga, meditation Lord says it can take 100s of births to reach the goal. But the same Lord says that HE can give Moksha in same birth if HE wishes. Than

that is the short cut. It is the means and methods one should adopt learning from histories of saints who showed the path. S.Danalakshme---------- Lord Sri Krishna said to Arjuna to do his duty (his karma) and fight the was as a Kshatriya. The mere existence of any one on earth is to do his/her Karmas. Other species besides human birth (animal, insects, birds, plants etc) are exhausting their past vasanas (Karmas). Human birth is rare, where one has ability to discriminate in one's actions. The choice for humans is to either raise themselves by pure thoughts or go back to lower level births. These are clear in Kapila Geetha, Vivekachudamani and Bajagovindam. Jada Bharatha in Srimath Bagavath was to be beheaded as human sacrifice in front of Kalli. Jada Bharatha remained calm with no sign of fear or resistence. Kalli appeared and killed the

kabali tribe, and Bharatha was set free as if nothing took place. Sant Tukaram was asked by Lord Vishnu (Panduranga) that he would be taken away to Lord's abode. Tukaram asked his wife to accompany him, but she said it is all an illusion, thus Tukaram walked away from home the next day morning without any intimation, and flew away in presence of thousands of people. One can to day visit this place near PUNE.,P> Namaste B.Sathyanarayan ---------- Do your duty and surrender the results to the God. Rahul Kumar Pintoo ---------- "G. Vaidyanathan" <nathangv (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Pranams. SERVICE TO HUMANITY IS SERVICE TO GOD. when you do service to god, you should not expect anything as reward, as God knows what is to begiven to you. So also it should be when you do service to humanity. G.Vaidyanathan From: scheel.skj Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:22:25 +0530Re: Detachment from Selfish Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways? Understanding is the whole thing.... detached......simply means unaffected by any or all events/ happenings. selfless service means detached service to others. A service which increases your happiness is detached service. A service which makes you unhappy for any reason is

NOT... Thanks for the opportunity......baiya sathyanarayan Sun Oct 7, 2007 2:21 am Re:RE: Detachment from Selfish Service, as well? If so, What are the Ways? baiya07_sathya (AT) (DOT) ... Send Message Edit Membership On 10/4/07, sadhak_insight <sadhak_insight > wrote: Shree Hari SHOULD ONE ALSO BECOME DETACHED TO SELFLESS SERVICE?IF YES, WHAT ARE THE WAYS TO BECOME COMPLETELY DETACHED.THANKSR PRASAD------------------------- Gita Talk GuidelinesFROM THE MODERATORThe

following are the guidelines for Gita-Talk discussions.1. Purpose of the group is to help Sadhaks clarify their doubts related to Gita shlokas. For responses to be posted, they must further clarify the understanding of Gitaji.2. Wherever possible, please quote Gitaji or other scriptures to substantiate the response3. Please limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc.4. Kindly make your responses concise and to the point. (Up to twenty line maximum, if possible).5. Please limit discussions to subject at hand.6. Please do not include links to other sites or other organizations7. Please do not include your personal information such as phone number, address etc.8. Kindly do not address the response to a particular individual, since the message is going to the entire group.9. Due to a large readership, not all responses will be posted.10. Moderator at his discretion, may modify the posting, if content

is unclear or not appropriate for distribution to the group.11. Please respond taking into consideration novices, youth, westerners, non-secterian audience. Please limit the use on only sanskrit words, and provide the english word with sanskrit bracketed wherever possible. MODERATORRam Ram