Intellect - Its Role? Where It Resides? Connection with Vivek (Discrimination)?

January 6, 2009

-Shree Hari-

I believe the extract below from this post, could do with a good

airing. I realise that the simple model of the human body falls

very short of the higher reality, this is something that the

individual can discover for him/herself, by various spiritual

practices. (Woe betide those that play around outside the spirit, in

such things).

I have disciplined myself , (sometimes I have fallen outside the

guidelines, for that I apologize to moderator ). But at

the same time regarding, how many thousands readers of these two

sites? The ones who have fallen between the cracks, they are my

beloved fellow imperfect. Maybe the extract below can shine a light

on their confusion.

'...The heart area extends ten fingers below the throat and ten

fingers above the navel. In this heart area, the intellect resides

and its place of operating is the brain....'

I apologize for my verbosity .

With Respect and Divine Love,

Mike Keenor

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ORIGINAL POSTING

: Shree Hari :

Ram Ram

5th January, 2009, Monday

Paush Shukla Navami, Vikram Samvat 2065, Somvar

The glory of the human body has been sung to a great extent in the

scriptures. That glory is not of the body with flesh-bones, but of

the discriminative faculty (vivek). Body has been condemned – `Panch

Rachit Ati Adham Sarira' (Manas, Kishkindha 11|2). In reality

humanity is the power of discrimination (vivek) i.e. knowledge of

perishable-imperishable, duty - non-duty, essential - non-essential,

permitted - forbidden. This discriminative faculty is like an

illuminator, by which all worldly and spiritual affairs are properly

carried out. Glory of human body is actually the glory of

appropriate usage of this power of discrimination (vivek shakti). By

misuse of this faculty great harm can be caused. Intellect (buddhi)

is the instrument to reveal power of vivek. Such an instrument is

not available in other forms of life. In the human body the

intellect occupies a much larger portion, in which there are more

particles (tantu) of knowledge. The heart area extends ten fingers

below the throat and ten fingers above the navel. In this heart

area, the intellect resides and its place of operating is the brain.

Vivek (discrimination) comes in the intellect (buddhi); it is not an

attribute of the intellect (buddhi). Intellect is the evolutes of

insentient nature. Intellect is like a magnifying glass. Magnifying

glass concentrates the rays of sun. The magnifying glass

concentrates the burning power, while a mirror centers and reflects

the illuminating power. Due to being very attached to enjoying

pleasures and hoarding, man even after hearing spiritual talks he is

unable to walk towards Paramatma.

Stealing, breaking trust etc. is misuse of power of vivek

(discrimination). `Narak Swar Apbarg Niseni' (Manas, Uttar 121|5)-

this body is stairway to heaven, hell and is a doorway to salvation-

`Sadhan Dhaam Moksha Kar Dwaaara' (Manas, Uttar 43|4). After coming

into this body we can go to hell by misusing the God-gifted vivek

and attain salvation by appropriately using this vivek. Making

nuclear bombs is great misuse of power of vivek. In light of the Sun

one can read Vedas and one can also hunt.

As a wealthy man, attached to pleasures, generally doesn't come to

Satsang (spiritual discourses), similarly demi-gods also being

attached to pleasures don't turn towards Bhagavaan (God). But if

they do come there is no objection. Kings like Ambrish, Janak etc.

have also been God's devotees. Sinners have also been God's

devotees; because at the root everyone is God's fragment (ansh,

part). So no one is prohibited from walking towards Paramatma (God).

In human body (physical body) there is not even an ounce of purity.

It is only a factory for manufacturing stool-urine. Therefore it is

not the human body that is praiseworthy, but its appropriate usage

is praiseworthy.

Those that have attained God, they are awakened. Those that are

engaged in spiritual practices are asleep. Those that are not

engaged in Bhagwaan are corpses. Those that are sleeping they can

wake up, but how can a corpse wake up?

Earning money is not in our sphere of control, but day and night we

are engaged in this effort. Worshipping (devotion, remembrance,

chanting, meditation, reading etc.) is in our sphere of control but

that is not being done! Working the entire life and thereafter

earning lakh rupees is also not in our sphere of control; but lakh-

three lakh Divine Name (God's name) can be recited daily. That thing

which is going to go with us is not being accumulated, but that

thing which will remain here itself, that alone we are hoarding!

Charity is done only with that money which is earned ethically.

Wells made with money earned via unjust means is not of use to

anyone; just like `Modi's well' in Bikaner.

From " Gyaan ke Deep Jale " in Hindi by Swami Ramsukhdasji, pg 150-

151.

Ram Ram

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-Shree Hari-

I believe the extract below from this post, could do with a good

airing. I realise that the simple model of the human body falls

very short of the higher reality, this is something that the

individual can discover for him/herself, by various spiritual

practices. (Woe betide those that play around outside the spirit, in

such things).

I have disciplined myself , (sometimes I have fallen outside the

guidelines, for that I apologize to moderator ). But at

the same time regarding, how many thousands readers of these two

sites? The ones who have fallen between the cracks, they are my

beloved fellow imperfect. Maybe the extract below can shine a light

on their confusion.

'...The heart area extends ten fingers below the throat and ten

fingers above the navel. In this heart area, the intellect resides

and its place of operating is the brain....'

I apologize for my verbosity .

With Respect and Divine Love,

Mike Keenor

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NEW POSTING

Dear Sadaks,

Mr.Mike is correct about intellect residing. This is very clearly

explained and shown with proof by one saint called Veera Bramam

lived in Andra Pradesh, India. The sant has given details of how it

functions by Chakras in human body. The Sant took to Jeeva Samadhi

in 18th century I presume. His Samadhi is in Caddapah, Andra Pradesh

even to day, like that of Saint Gnaneswar.

Jai Sri Krishna

baiya sathyanarayan

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The heart is physically present in the body. Intellect may be present in the

brain but real vivek or discrimination can be developed only through spiritual

practices like sadhana, satsang, sewa and meditation.

Hari Shanker Deo