Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 || Shree Hari || Ram Ram II 2:4 II Arjuna uvaca katham bheeshmam aham sankhye, dronam cha madhusoodana isubhih prati-yotsyami, poojaarhav ari-soodana (Gita 2:4) Arjuna said: " O slayer of Madhu, and slayer of foes, how shall I fight Bheeshma and Drona, with arrows on the battlefield? Both of them are worthy of our worship. " From Gita Prabodhani in Hindi pg. 18 by Swami Ramsukhdasji --------------------------- Chapter 2, Verse 4 is as follows; Arjuna = Arjun Uvaacha = said Katham = how Bheeshmam = Bheeshma Aham = I Sankhye = in battle Dronam = Drona Cha = and Madhu-soodana = O Shree Krishna, the killer of demon Madhu! IShubhiH = with arrows Prati-yotsyaami = shall fight Pujaarhau = worthy of worship Arisoodana = O Shree Krishna, the slayer of enemies! English translation:- Arjuna said, " O slayer of demon Madhu, O slayer of foes, how shall I counter-attack with arrows Bhishma and Drona, who are worthy of worship? " Arjuna continues his argument against the royal battle. Maharshee Veda Vyas have selected the most appropriate qualifiers of `Madhu- soodana' i.e. killer of the demon Madhu and `Ari-soodana' i.e. slayer of enemies, for Lord Krishna in Arjuna's earnest appeal. Arjuna seems to argue that, " O Lord Krishna, your case was different. Grandsire Bheeshmaachaarya and Guru Dronaachaarya are neither demons nor my enemies. I dare not even debate with the venerable ones, who are true symbolic representatives of the collective might of the Kuru kingdom. My enemies are only hundred sons of King Dhritaraashtra. Will I not be condemned as an ungrateful warrior, who waged war with the worshipful grandsire and adorable preceptor, who have showered great affection and genuine love on me? " Arjuna had fought a war with both Bheeshmaachaarya and Dronaachaarya earlier at the conclusion of the one year exile in anonymity; however that was not a decisive battle for life and death. Teacher Dronaachaarya loved Arjuna beyond his own son Ashwatthaamaa. Dronaachaarya had earlier asked Ekalavya his right hand thumb as `Guru-DakshiNaa' i.e. tuition fee so that the only probable competition to Arjuna is nipped in the bud. Dronaachaarya decided to take the ultimate test of his disciples. While swimming in a river Guru Drona was caught by a giant crocodile. It was his deliberate plan. He shouted for help and urged all his disciples to rescue him. All of them fumbled except Arjuna. Within a fraction of time, Arjuna hit five sharp arrows to the crocodile, which immediately released Guru Drona and met with its instant death. Being highly impressed with alacrity and agility of Arjuna, Guru Drona declared him to be his best disciple and gave him `Brahma- Astra' i.e. a weapon with the potential energy of destruction of the entire planet earth. Guru Drona cautioned Arjuna not to use it against any human being under any circumstances and blessed him that he will enjoy the status of the best archer in this world forever. It reminds me of famous Sanskrit Subhaashita i.e. good words as follows; " SaH hi VidnyaaH Tatam Janayati Tat ShreshTham JanmaH, Shareeram Eva Maataa-Pitarau JanayataH " i.e. duo of mother and father give birth to a raw physical body with organs while preceptors give birth to real mental and intellectual development of a human being. Such a birth is indeed the superior one. Arjuna's arguments sound hollow and shallow due to his complete surrender to his fickle mind with total disregard to his `Viveka- Buddhi' i.e. proper intellectual discrimination. Arjuna is unable to comprehend that the imminent battle is not between individuals based on their personal egos and rivalries. Arjuna has no separate identity apart from the army of the Pandavaas and the revered Bheeshmaachaarya and venerable Dronaachaarya have no separate identities apart from the army of the Kauravaas with their collective policies of `Dharma' i.e. righteousness and `A-Dharma' i.e. unrighteousness respectively. In this backdrop, Arjuna has no individual right to expect any personal honour or dishonour. He has no individual right as well to ascribe any mean motive or disrespect while challenging his grandfather and preceptor, whom he has revered and held in the highest esteem so far, as they are championing the wrong side of `A- Dharma' i.e. unrighteousness in the ensuing epic battle. With the fragile and lame justification of `Arthasya Purusho DaasaaH' i.e. all men are slaves of material possessions including wealth; grandsire Bheeshmaachaarya had brushed aside moral pleas and claims of Pandavaas. In the similar manner, out of slavish obligation to the Kuru Kingdom, Guru Dronaachaarya had championed the cause of Kauravaas out of total selfish attitude. Both Bheeshmaachaarya and Dronaachaarya felt no compunction to fight the Pandavaas who were the most deserving candidates for the succession at the throne of Hastinaapur. The more we identify ourselves with only `I, me and mine' attitude, our confusions and problems in life will always multiply. Whenever we expand our horizon and identify ourselves with the larger canvas and higher goals; our confusions and problems in life will always nullify. All human beings suffer from constant mental agitations arising due to desires and obstruction in the path of attainment of those desires. Every person attributes his failures and sufferings in life to external stimuli but very rarely one admits that the real sources of the problems are his internal stimuli i.e. constant mental agitations due to `Kaama' i.e. desires for pleasures in life, `Krodha' i.e. anger due to non-fulfillment of those desires, `Lobha' i.e. expectations of always desirable outcomes in any event or activity, `Moha' i.e. delusion, `Mada' i.e. arrogance and `Matsara' i.e. hatred to those who are obstructing his lustful desires. Arjuna continues to be in a baffled state as Lord Krishna is sanctioning the very acts which Arjuna treats as atrocious, ungrateful and inhuman in nature. The fundamental mistake in Arjuna's assessment and judgement is in his personal belief that every action per say is either good or bad. No action is intrinsically either good or bad but the motive behind every action renders it either good or bad. An apparently virtuous action may have a vicious motive behind it and vice versa. Lord Krishna ultimately proves to Arjuna with his irrefutable logic and chaste knowledge of the Self that an apparently atrocious act of killing one's own Guru and Grandfather becomes an act of virtue due to the underlying noble, selfless intention of re-establishing righteousness. Thanks & Best Regards, Shrikant Joshi ----------------------------- FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI Link:—In the first chapter, Arjuna gave several arguments against the war. But without attaching importance to his arguments, Lord Krsna suddenly scolded Arjuna for his faintheartedness, and ordered him to array himself to wage war. So Arjuna without getting any satisfactory reply to his arguments, got excited and spoke abruptly the words in Gita 2:4. Comment:— [Arjuna addresses the Lord as 'Madhusudana' and 'Arisudana', because he had killed unrighteous, villainous and cruel demons, such as Madhu etc., and foes also who always are jealous of others, without rhyme or reason. But how can he kill his great well-wisher, the respected grandfather Bhisma, and adorable preceptor Drona, who have great affection for him?] 'Katham bhismamaham sahkhye dronam ca' — I am not turning away from war because of faint-heartedness, but because it is unrighteous for me to fight, with the revered grandsire Bhlsma and venerable teacher Drona. I would be called unmanly if I were afraid of death. I am not afraid of dying but I do not want to kill my venerable elders, who have always been very affectionate to me. Grandfather Bhisma, has loved me since my childhood. When I addressed him as father, he very affectionately used to say, that he was my father's father. Similarly, my adorable preceptor Drona, has been so kind to me that he imparted to me better training, than he imparted even to his son. He taught the use of Brahma-weapon, (a kind of weapon which caused infallible destruction and set in motion by incantation) to both of us, but as far as its control or end is concerned, he taught that only to me, not to his son. He also granted me a boon that no one would excel me, in military science. So it is a mortal sin, to wage war against them. 'Isubhih pratiyotsyami pujarhau'—Both Bhisma and Drona being elderly are venerable and adorable. They have a right to attack me. But it is a deadly sin for me to fight against them with my arrows. From " The Bhagavad Gita - Sadhak Sanjivani " by Swami Ramsukhdasji pg 74-75 in English. =============================================================== Shree Hari Ram Ram Thank you Shri Shrikantji Joshi for taking the initiative to support this divine work and to Mrs. K Asani for requesting shloka explanation on a daily basis. From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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