Science and Spirituality - Identification of Concepts

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Science and Scientific concepts have been exhibited in Geeta and many

other scriptures, but they are not in the science language we know of

presently. Can we identify those concepts in terms of present

knowledge of science...I think everybody should try and let this

group know about.

it....Gee Waman

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[Guest guest]

QUESTION:

Science and Scientific concepts have been exhibited in Geeta and many

other scriptures, but they are not in the science language we know of

presently. Can we identify those concepts in terms of present

knowledge of science...I think everybody should try and let this

group know about.

it....Gee Waman

----------------------------

NEW POSTING

 

Dear sadaks,

Those days scientific knowledge has to be only translated, just like

Sanskrit being translated. Galileo said that world is round which

was against old testament statement that world is square. I think

Galileo was beheaded for that statement. What said in testament is

the age of earth is square that is 4 Yugas representing 4 points of

a square. This said in Hinduism more clearly and in detail. The

science of spiritual language can be explained to today` s

understanding. Light speed distance and magnetism etc are written in

Upanashids.

B.Sathyanarayan

 

-----------------------------

Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!

I would appreciate if Wamanji please clarify what/how science and

scientific concepts are used in Gita or other scriptures. Based on

this we can understand and comment.

In the meantime, I share my understanding as follows:

Science until recently was knowledge about matters such as Newton's

laws, etc. In practical life we need scientific knowlwdge to make

life convenient and comfortable and free of diseases, promoting

healthy ways etc etc.

However, we end up with knowledge of military hardwares and

softwares to destroy planet earth too. More recently with advent of

Quantum Physics and few insightful scientists like Einstein and

Schroddinger and the likes, we are learning about Consciousness

itself which is found to influence scientific observations

profoundly.

It may be pointed out that Science is based on empirical

observations of objects and their behaviors under various conditions

and to draw inferences. It is all indirect and agreed upon

observations and formulating them as laws of matters. All such

knowledge is perceptions by sense organs and conceptions by mind and

not based on actual experience taking place by the observer-

Consciousness and therefore is called Avidya or paroksha gyan by

Shruti(Veda/vedanta). Spiritual and vedantic knowledge looks into

the actual Observer rather than observed and discovers that That

which IS, is the Constant, permanent, undivided Conscious Presence,

never ceases to be while that which is perceived/conceived is not

and never comes into absolute Being. This is the only experiential

Vidya/Knowledge of SELF, direct perception of Reality(or Aparoksha

anubhuti). Therefore Science as much as it is useful, is unable to

afford us spiritual basis for Reality as it is beyond Mind, but

is " us " .

More later when we hear clarification...

Namaskar............Pratap Bhatt

 

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Which other scriptures? can you be more precise so we can check?

Ravi Bakhsi

 

 

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QUESTION:

Science and Scientific concepts have been exhibited in Geeta and many

other scriptures, but they are not in the science language we know of

presently. Can we identify those concepts in terms of present

knowledge of science...I think everybody should try and let this

group know about.

it....Gee Waman

----------------------------

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Shree Hari

Ram Ram

 

Even though this point does not directly address the question, I

thought it would be worthwhile to bring up.

 

In Gita Sri Bhagavan says - " Of Sciences, I am the Science of the

Self " (Gita 10:32) " Adhyatmavidyaa vidyaanaam " (Gita 10:32)

 

In Sadhak Sanjivani under explanation of Gita 10:32 and 10:33

Swamiji says - Adhyatmavidyaa is the science that leads a man to

salvation. All other sciences (and learnings) are imperfect. After

knowledge is gained from these, something yet remains to be known.

But the science of the Self is perfect. After knowing it, nothing

else remains to be known. It is referred to as Bhagavan's

glory.

 

Of all the sciences, " adhyatmavidya " i.e. Science of the Self (Soul)

is the best. The same science has been called " Brahmavidya " .

 

The Lord calls " adhyatmavidya " i.e. the science of the Self as His

divine glory because it is the simplest, easiest and is directly

realizable to all. There is no difficulty, in practicing it, in

understanding it and in attaining it. In fact, practicing,

understanding and attainment are not applicable to it at all. The

reason is that it is ever attained and in all the states -

wakefulness, sleep and sound sleep etc. It ever remains the same.

The science is evident and can be clearly realized, but we cannot

realize the existence of the world as clearly. We should understand

this fact.

 

If we think of our childhood and see our present state, we find that

nothing is the same (body, habits, language, behavior, places,

timeframe, friends, companions, activities, ideas). EVERYTHING HAS

CHANGED, BUT THE SELF IS UNCHANGED, THE SAME.

 

Whatever has changed is different nature from whatever has not

changed. What has not changed is the " Self " and this is the

science of the Self i.e. Atmajnana.

 

Meera Das

Ram Ram

----------------------------

Dear sadaks,

Bagavan in Geetha said 6 stages of all living things. Starting from

Parimalathe (Just blossom) and last Asthi (dead to ashes) HE has

also said I (God-Sri Krishna) is in everything but I (God) not that.

Means HE is in leaf as energy to grow but HE is not leaf. Scientific

term E=MC to the power of 2. The black hole which science say that

even light cannot escape, Sri Krishna took Arjuna through Black hole-

Which is called Extrordinary Terrestrial Energy. Sri Krishna showed

Virat roop to Arjuna- Which means the flow of cosmic energy in 3

dimentions Elecricity, Magnetism, light (Which Arjuna could not

see). The earth life span is said as 4 yugas, Sat Yug 1728000 years,

Trethayug 1296000 years, Dwaperyug 864000 years Kali Yug 432000

years. Man in Sat yug was tallest by 16 Ft, graduaaly reduced to 6

Ft in Kaliyug. Ref: Sri Krishna brother Balaramji wife was nearly 14

Ft and was reduced to height suitable to Balaramji.

Sadaks many of know a bird by name Sparrow. Now estinguished for

what? Sparrow cannot live under influence of Cell Phone tower

broadcast signals. 5 elements on earth are getting polluted by Man-

Results Man going to get killed in seconds by unknown Viral diseases

that extremely faster than science. That is 10th Avathar of Bagavan

depicted as Man sitting on horse with white robes with knife on one

hand. Horse the speed-White robe unknown reason of disease- Knife

(Cutting) is death. Much more can be said about these subjects..but

being respectful of the time of sadhaks.

Jai Sri Krishna

B.Sathyanarayan

---------------------------

Dear Sadhakas, Namaskar

There are many examples, even in our ancient scriptures, by which we

are convinced that science was widely used in those days.

Have a careful look at the cover of any Geeta Book. Bhagawan

Krishnaji and Arjuna are shown seated in a well designed charriot,

which has two wheels and a strong axel. It proves that the great

invention of a `Wheel` was made use of.

Look at the bow and arrow. The principle of action-reaction have been

used. The bow uses the principle of elasticity of metals. When it is

bent,it stores energy and when let loose, it transfers that energy to

the arrow.

The arrow is nothing but a missile hurled at the enemy. The arrow has

a sharp point, so that its kinetic energy is concentrated at a small

area, reduces air resistence and is therefore effective in covering

longer distance and piercing the human body.

 

The horses have been used as a source of energy to drive the

charriot. More horses are used to get more power and speed. Reigns

(Lagam)are used to communicate the instructions to the horses. The

reigns act as a stearing wheel of a vehicle....

 

And so, the more and more you think in terms of science, you realise

more and more, that the men in those days were masters in science and

spirituality. I will give many more such examples in my future

postings...Gee Waman

-------------------------------

Dear Geeta Group Sadhakas, Namaskar

 

This time I am quoting an example from the great epic `Ramayana`

 

The great devotee of Prabhu Ramchandra....Shabari...collected berries

from forest to offer to Rama...she tested each and every

berry...`Selected` only ripe and sweet berries and `Rejected` the

unripe and sour berries...This is an example of modern concept of

`Quality Control`. Shabari used `Taste` as the `test` for quality.

I humbly request Sadhakas to think...do `Chintan` to identify the

combinations of Spirituality and Science.

.....Gee Waman.

 

 

----------------------------

PRIOR POSTING

 

Dear sadaks,

Those days scientific knowledge has to be only translated, just like

Sanskrit being translated. Galileo said that world is round which

was against old testament statement that world is square. I think

Galileo was beheaded for that statement. What said in testament is

the age of earth is square that is 4 Yugas representing 4 points of

a square. This said in Hinduism more clearly and in detail. The

science of spiritual language can be explained to today` s

understanding. Light speed distance and magnetism etc are written in

Upanashids.

B.Sathyanarayan

 

-----------------------------

Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!

I would appreciate if Wamanji please clarify what/how science and

scientific concepts are used in Gita or other scriptures. Based on

this we can understand and comment.

In the meantime, I share my understanding as follows:

Science until recently was knowledge about matters such as Newton's

laws, etc. In practical life we need scientific knowlwdge to make

life convenient and comfortable and free of diseases, promoting

healthy ways etc etc.

However, we end up with knowledge of military hardwares and

softwares to destroy planet earth too. More recently with advent of

Quantum Physics and few insightful scientists like Einstein and

Schroddinger and the likes, we are learning about Consciousness

itself which is found to influence scientific observations

profoundly.

It may be pointed out that Science is based on empirical

observations of objects and their behaviors under various conditions

and to draw inferences. It is all indirect and agreed upon

observations and formulating them as laws of matters. All such

knowledge is perceptions by sense organs and conceptions by mind and

not based on actual experience taking place by the observer-

Consciousness and therefore is called Avidya or paroksha gyan by

Shruti(Veda/vedanta). Spiritual and vedantic knowledge looks into

the actual Observer rather than observed and discovers that That

which IS, is the Constant, permanent, undivided Conscious Presence,

never ceases to be while that which is perceived/conceived is not

and never comes into absolute Being. This is the only experiential

Vidya/Knowledge of SELF, direct perception of Reality(or Aparoksha

anubhuti). Therefore Science as much as it is useful, is unable to

afford us spiritual basis for Reality as it is beyond Mind, but

is " us " .

More later when we hear clarification...

Namaskar............Pratap Bhatt

 

-

 

Which other scriptures? can you be more precise so we can check?

Ravi Bakhsi

 

 

----------------------------

 

 

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2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible..

3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the

extent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas

4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time.

5. Focus on subject at hand only.

6. Do not include links to the other sites.

7. Do not include your personal information (Ph #, address etc).

8. Do not personalize message

9. All responses may not be posted.

10. Moderator at his discretion, may modify the posting.

11. Take into consideration the novices, youth, westerners, non-

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Provide English word bracketed.

 

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[Guest guest]

QUESTION:

Science and Scientific concepts have been exhibited in Geeta and many

other scriptures, but they are not in the science language we know of

presently. Can we identify those concepts in terms of present

knowledge of science...I think everybody should try and let this

group know about.

it....Gee Waman

----------------------------

NEW POSTING

 

Hari Om

 

Really a good question ! Beautiful , simply Divine, response has

been given by our Mira Dassji to you to set the ball rolling . Let

me put before this Divine Forum few definitions so as to

accelerate. I would seek encouragement by Sadhaks of this divine

forum, in the form of queries, confirmations, or elaborations . THEY

ARE STRAIGHT FROM " YOGA VAASHISHTHA " :

 

THE SELF

 

Threefold is the nature of the mind named waking, dreaming and deep

sleep. The mind of the individual soul betakes itself to the

violent , the calmed and the stupefied states. The mind consisting

of the waking state or experience is the violent one. It is calmed

remaining in the state consisting of dreams . It is stupefied ,

remaining in the state of deep sleep. It would be dead , bereft of

the three states. IN THAT MIND WHICH IS DEAD , THE ONE EXISTENCE

REMAINS EVEN.

 

All the yogin-s indeed acquire that state of the dead mind.

 

There exists within the body a life element , by which one is alive.

It has the appellations such as lustre, energy, and vital element.

When the body functions through the mind, action and speech, then

the life element circulates in the body impelled by the vital airs.

When it is circulating within the parts of the body , all knowledge

or awareness arises. The delusion of the world lurking within, on

account of having been perceived, goes forth to that called CHITTA

( the conscious base of the mind which is the storehouse of memory).

Spreading within the openings of the eyes and other sense organs ,

this consciousness perceives the forms consisting of the outside

world , abounding in various shapes and modifications, IN THE

SELF !! And, it is regarded as waking on account of its stability in

that manner.

 

When the body is not disturbed by the mind , by action or by word,

then the LIFE ELEMENT remains calm and self abiding or at ease. The

life element is not agitated in the sky or space of the heart by the

vital airs which have attained evenness , as a lamp in a windless

house is only producing light without getting agitated. IN THAT

STATE OF DEEP SLEEP , the JIVA ( or individualised consciousness)

shines only within, like the principle of oil in sesamum seed, the

principle of coldness in ice and the principle of oiliness in

clarified butter.

 

THE SELF IS NOT RELATED TO THE BODY AND THERE IS NO BODY IN THE

SELF. THESE ARE MUTUALLY DIFFERENT AS LIGHT AND DARKNESS.

 

O Human Beings !!! There is not even a little relationship of this

stainless SELF with the body, as there is no relationship of gold

with a particle of mud, though situated in it.

 

As the sky existing everywhere is reflected in a mirror, so, the

Self existing everywhere is seen within the mind. The state of the

Self is existing everywhere, in the sky, a rock, a wall and the

like. But, like the reflection in a mirror, it is seen here only in

the mind.

 

Jai Shree Krishna

 

Vyas N B

--------------------------

 

Priy Sadhak,

We must know the meaning of science first.

Science means experience. Anubhav, OK so how can U bind anubhav

(experience) in any language?

Sweetness is in english, while meetha is in hindi.

Science is experience of whatever knowledge U gain or have.

It is experimental, based on truth.

Einstein said about Gitaji that for U it may be a religious book but

for me it is scientific.

OK

Hope it helps.

Thanx

Raja Gurdasani

-----------------------------

 

 

Dear Sadaks,

Thus said- Wamanji - " Quality Control`. Shabari used `Taste` as the

`test` for quality. "

It is love and affection in purest form with Bakthi (Devotion) gives

Bavana to present the best to Bagavan. Sri Krishna ate plantain sink

given by Vithura mistakenly instead of fruit. Sudhama/Kuchela gave

dried pounded rice to Sri Krishna WHO ate with great pleasure.

Kannapa the hunter gave meat to Bagavan Shiva WHO blessed him. Sri

Rama HIMSELF is divine roop in human form. Everything on earth

including food is not important to GOD. Sri Rama/Bagavan Shiva/Sri

Krishna does not see quality control, but very sincerely see the

Bavana with which a devote offers. A King offered Sri Vishnu with

golden lotuses, but HE said that the flowers offered by a villager

is better. A saisnavite saint known as Poosalar Nayanar built a

temple in mind. Same time a king built a temple in reality with

dedication. Bagavan Shiva appeared and said to king that HE want to

visit temple built by saint. King went in search of saint found him

and asked him where was the temple. Saint said the temple is in his

mind with complete architectural design. King came to know that

quality/money/time he spent was not important, but it is the love

and affection with which an act done. King built the temple as per

the design in the mind of saint. The temple is today for public near

Chennai, in town known as Thrirunindravur.

Jai Sri Krishna

B.Sathyanarayan

 

---------------------------

PRIOR POSTING

Shree Hari

Ram Ram

 

Even though this point does not directly address the question, I

thought it would be worthwhile to bring up.

 

In Gita Sri Bhagavan says - " Of Sciences, I am the Science of the

Self " (Gita 10:32) " Adhyatmavidyaa vidyaanaam " (Gita 10:32)

 

In Sadhak Sanjivani under explanation of Gita 10:32 and 10:33

Swamiji says - Adhyatmavidyaa is the science that leads a man to

salvation. All other sciences (and learnings) are imperfect. After

knowledge is gained from these, something yet remains to be known.

But the science of the Self is perfect. After knowing it, nothing

else remains to be known. It is referred to as Bhagavan's

glory.

 

Of all the sciences, " adhyatmavidya " i.e. Science of the Self (Soul)

is the best. The same science has been called " Brahmavidya " .

 

The Lord calls " adhyatmavidya " i.e. the science of the Self as His

divine glory because it is the simplest, easiest and is directly

realizable to all. There is no difficulty, in practicing it, in

understanding it and in attaining it. In fact, practicing,

understanding and attainment are not applicable to it at all. The

reason is that it is ever attained and in all the states -

wakefulness, sleep and sound sleep etc. It ever remains the same.

The science is evident and can be clearly realized, but we cannot

realize the existence of the world as clearly. We should understand

this fact.

 

If we think of our childhood and see our present state, we find that

nothing is the same (body, habits, language, behavior, places,

timeframe, friends, companions, activities, ideas). EVERYTHING HAS

CHANGED, BUT THE SELF IS UNCHANGED, THE SAME.

 

Whatever has changed is different nature from whatever has not

changed. What has not changed is the " Self " and this is the

science of the Self i.e. Atmajnana.

 

Meera Das

Ram Ram

----------------------------

Dear sadaks,

Bagavan in Geetha said 6 stages of all living things. Starting from

Parimalathe (Just blossom) and last Asthi (dead to ashes) HE has

also said I (God-Sri Krishna) is in everything but I (God) not that.

Means HE is in leaf as energy to grow but HE is not leaf. Scientific

term E=MC to the power of 2. The black hole which science say that

even light cannot escape, Sri Krishna took Arjuna through Black hole-

Which is called Extrordinary Terrestrial Energy. Sri Krishna showed

Virat roop to Arjuna- Which means the flow of cosmic energy in 3

dimentions Elecricity, Magnetism, light (Which Arjuna could not

see). The earth life span is said as 4 yugas, Sat Yug 1728000 years,

Trethayug 1296000 years, Dwaperyug 864000 years Kali Yug 432000

years. Man in Sat yug was tallest by 16 Ft, graduaaly reduced to 6

Ft in Kaliyug. Ref: Sri Krishna brother Balaramji wife was nearly 14

Ft and was reduced to height suitable to Balaramji.

Sadaks many of know a bird by name Sparrow. Now estinguished for

what? Sparrow cannot live under influence of Cell Phone tower

broadcast signals. 5 elements on earth are getting polluted by Man-

Results Man going to get killed in seconds by unknown Viral diseases

that extremely faster than science. That is 10th Avathar of Bagavan

depicted as Man sitting on horse with white robes with knife on one

hand. Horse the speed-White robe unknown reason of disease- Knife

(Cutting) is death. Much more can be said about these subjects..but

being respectful of the time of sadhaks.

Jai Sri Krishna

B.Sathyanarayan

---------------------------

Dear Sadhakas, Namaskar

There are many examples, even in our ancient scriptures, by which we

are convinced that science was widely used in those days.

Have a careful look at the cover of any Geeta Book. Bhagawan

Krishnaji and Arjuna are shown seated in a well designed charriot,

which has two wheels and a strong axel. It proves that the great

invention of a `Wheel` was made use of.

Look at the bow and arrow. The principle of action-reaction have been

used. The bow uses the principle of elasticity of metals. When it is

bent,it stores energy and when let loose, it transfers that energy to

the arrow.

The arrow is nothing but a missile hurled at the enemy. The arrow has

a sharp point, so that its kinetic energy is concentrated at a small

area, reduces air resistence and is therefore effective in covering

longer distance and piercing the human body.

 

The horses have been used as a source of energy to drive the

charriot. More horses are used to get more power and speed. Reigns

(Lagam)are used to communicate the instructions to the horses. The

reigns act as a stearing wheel of a vehicle....

 

And so, the more and more you think in terms of science, you realise

more and more, that the men in those days were masters in science and

spirituality. I will give many more such examples in my future

postings...Gee Waman

-------------------------------

Dear Geeta Group Sadhakas, Namaskar

 

This time I am quoting an example from the great epic `Ramayana`

 

The great devotee of Prabhu Ramchandra....Shabari...collected berries

from forest to offer to Rama...she tested each and every

berry...`Selected` only ripe and sweet berries and `Rejected` the

unripe and sour berries...This is an example of modern concept of

`Quality Control`. Shabari used `Taste` as the `test` for quality.

I humbly request Sadhakas to think...do `Chintan` to identify the

combinations of Spirituality and Science.

.....Gee Waman.

 

 

----------------------------

PRIOR POSTING

 

Dear sadaks,

Those days scientific knowledge has to be only translated, just like

Sanskrit being translated. Galileo said that world is round which

was against old testament statement that world is square. I think

Galileo was beheaded for that statement. What said in testament is

the age of earth is square that is 4 Yugas representing 4 points of

a square. This said in Hinduism more clearly and in detail. The

science of spiritual language can be explained to today` s

understanding. Light speed distance and magnetism etc are written in

Upanashids.

B.Sathyanarayan

 

-----------------------------

Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!

I would appreciate if Wamanji please clarify what/how science and

scientific concepts are used in Gita or other scriptures. Based on

this we can understand and comment.

In the meantime, I share my understanding as follows:

Science until recently was knowledge about matters such as Newton's

laws, etc. In practical life we need scientific knowlwdge to make

life convenient and comfortable and free of diseases, promoting

healthy ways etc etc.

However, we end up with knowledge of military hardwares and

softwares to destroy planet earth too. More recently with advent of

Quantum Physics and few insightful scientists like Einstein and

Schroddinger and the likes, we are learning about Consciousness

itself which is found to influence scientific observations

profoundly.

It may be pointed out that Science is based on empirical

observations of objects and their behaviors under various conditions

and to draw inferences. It is all indirect and agreed upon

observations and formulating them as laws of matters. All such

knowledge is perceptions by sense organs and conceptions by mind and

not based on actual experience taking place by the observer-

Consciousness and therefore is called Avidya or paroksha gyan by

Shruti(Veda/vedanta). Spiritual and vedantic knowledge looks into

the actual Observer rather than observed and discovers that That

which IS, is the Constant, permanent, undivided Conscious Presence,

never ceases to be while that which is perceived/conceived is not

and never comes into absolute Being. This is the only experiential

Vidya/Knowledge of SELF, direct perception of Reality(or Aparoksha

anubhuti). Therefore Science as much as it is useful, is unable to

afford us spiritual basis for Reality as it is beyond Mind, but

is " us " .

More later when we hear clarification...

Namaskar............Pratap Bhatt

 

-

 

Which other scriptures? can you be more precise so we can check?

Ravi Bakhsi

 

 

----------------------------

 

 

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1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted.

2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible..

3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the

extent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas

4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time.

5. Focus on subject at hand only.

6. Do not include links to the other sites.

7. Do not include your personal information (Ph #, address etc).

8. Do not personalize message

9. All responses may not be posted.

10. Moderator at his discretion, may modify the posting.

11. Take into consideration the novices, youth, westerners, non-

sectarian audience. i.e. limit the use to Sanskrit words only.

Provide English word bracketed.

 

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