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QUESTION SUMMARY: Boyfriend is now rejecting the relationship

because of " Kundali " (i.e. horoscope). How to deal? (What specific

insights can Gita offer in this regard? - GT Moderator addition).

Priya

------------------------------

 

NEW POSTING

 

 

Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!

To Priyaji, count your blessings! If someone were to reject you

based on Kundali not matching, stop worrying. Think of it as a

signal from God that there may be trouble down the road in marriage.

Or he may be forced by someone like parents or another elder in the

family. You say fine and move on!

Don't give anyone weapon to make you happy or unhappy. I see this

when you say life is useless and I am hurt etc etc. How do you know

something better is not going to happen?

Just get up and roar like lioness!

Get interested in Life and appreciate what has been given to you

rather what has been denied! You will feel better if you think this

way.

Read Gita and also listen to someone like Swamiji or someone you

trust, in whose presence you feel joyous!

If in a relationship Love is not felt, why do you want to get

attached to it? Look forward and be open for a new relationship in

which both of you can enrich.

See that such thoughts only create fear in you where there is no

fear! It is attachment to some image of this person who is dumping

you that creates insecurity and breeds fear!

Be brave and bold and trust Life, which is another name for God!

Accept whatever comes your way and make it as your inner attitude,

Change yourself first, then you will know what is needed to be

changed.

Bring God consciousness in your life by praying and acknowledging

you need help!

Above all wish him happiness in his relationship. This will free you

up from this grasp he has on you! Remember ill-will binds you while

well wish liberates you!

Namaskar.........Pratap Bhatt

----------------------

Dear Sadhak,

 

Let me first clarify that the Geeta does not provide any

guidelines with regard to marriage.

 

Tallying the boy-girl match, comparing their 'Kundali'

(horoscopes) was very much in practice during the past, when

marriages were solemnised at very early age, i.e. when the two were

minors and there was no other way of judging the future of the

couple. A very learned astrologer, who was a senior government

officer and practised astrology as a hobby, not as profession, told

me that, after the boy and the girl cross the age of majority, no

consultation or comparizen of horoscopes is necessary. You can judge

compatibility of the two through their educational and other

qualification and traits. When the boy and the girl themselves meet

and like each other, a reference to 'Kundali' is not required. Still

people do it generally to find an excuse to reject the matrimonial

relationship.

 

In your case, I suppose both you and your boy friend are

fully grown up. If your marriage is rejected from the boy side, it

is quite that the boy or the boy's family does not want this

relationship. In that case, you need not feel sorry or regret the

break off. You should take courage to face the reality and find

another suitable match.

 

Ram Gopal

---------------------------

Priya Sadhika, Namaskar

 

You should forget this boy. Think that you were not written in his

KUNDALI as his wife...Now find a boy who does not believe in

such things. One should see the relationship between cause and

effect. It is my understandings that the planets cannot have any

different interaction than any other individual...so the effects

cannot be different for different people...I believe that the

difference in life is because of inherited genetic differences and

the events in your life are governed by the laws of probability,

normally we call it FATE.

 

....Gee Waman

-------------------------

 

 

DETAILS

 

Namaskaar to all Sadhakas!

I dont know really how to

start my topic sorry too that i should not mention about my personal

problems. But im really sick of this life im tired i just cant or

dont want to continue i was a very happy go lucky person i regarded

myself before but now im totally broken im being hurt or made to

broke by the so called boy friend whom i respected and loved very

much now i come to this stage that he is not accepting me any more

due to some " KUNDALI' and its hard for me to live now every now and

then i feel his presence and his thought haunt me i found this life

very useless now without him. But when i happened to see some of

your new postings it ease my heart's feelings but still again the

same thought same feelings what should i do? i didn't see any

options to lead this life i'm very much depressed and frustrated

with this life. I'm fed up with this life so could you plz suggest

what should i do? sorry for the inconveniency in relating my

personal matters here.

sincerely, Priya

 

---------------------------

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QUESTION SUMMARY: Boyfriend is now rejecting the relationship

because of " Kundali " (i.e. horoscope). How to deal? (What specific

insights can Gita offer in this regard? - GT Moderator addition).

Priya

------------------------------

 

NEW POSTING

 

Madam Priya,

The amount of attachment put into our mind on anything, the same

amount of pain comes when it departs from us. Mother loosing her

most beloved child weeps profusely. If the same child was giving

pain to the parents, nothing but trouble, notorious, her weeping is

will be very less. Relatives around also will say better the child

dead.

What IF your boyfriend deserted you after marriage? I met such a

girl in a train running away to suicide in Ganga. I explained her

the value of precious life given by Bhagavan to attain most happiest

state. She asked how? I said become divine by joining a group to

service thereby uplift herself as well as society. She joined

Chinmayanandha ashram at Sadabairy. Perfected Geetha and now she

delivers wonder explaination on Geetha. Now she looks with clarity

in her mind and face. But for you, you can also opt to get married

by the guidence of elders and lead a peaceful life thinking of Sri

Krishna WHO is ultimate to one and all.

B.Sathyanarayan

--------------------------

Dear Priya,

 

I think whoever is moved by horoscope and not heart is not

worth to worry about.

Gita says: " samshayaatma vinashyati " -

someone who lacks clarity is doomed.

 

I am not sure when horoscope was ever valid.

Some people take it serious.

Some others, use it as a scapegoat (blame it on the horoscope).

We don't know where your ex-boy friend is coming from.

We will never know that for sure.

But one thing anyone can tell you is that he is not

worthy of one whom you want to figure out -

It is past time to take out the garbage.

 

Love

 

KST (Koti Sreekrishna)

--------------------------------

 

Priya,

 

I have been through a similar incident which wrecked my life and may

be able to offer advice since this is not really a topic for the

forum. I wish you well and hope you come out of this.

 

Best Wishes & god Bless,

Amit

 

Shree Hari Ram Ram

Amitji, you may be able to offer some general advice in this

regard. We do not encourage personal communication through this

forum. Thank you, From Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

-------------------------------

 

It is better to make boyfriends or girl friends after consulting

kundalis it seems. On the one hand you want to show yourself as

modern by going against arranged marriages and choosing your own

girlfriend or boyfriend. On the other hand you are so steeped in

ancient mumbo-jumbo like matching horoscopes that you reject a

girlfriend whom you have been leading down the garden path. So girls

should be warned. It is dangerous to get involved with boys before

marriage because the results many not match the endings you see in

movies. Forget that creep.

 

Hari Shanker Deo

------------------------------

PRIOR POSTING

 

 

Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!

To Priyaji, count your blessings! If someone were to reject you

based on Kundali not matching, stop worrying. Think of it as a

signal from God that there may be trouble down the road in marriage.

Or he may be forced by someone like parents or another elder in the

family. You say fine and move on!

Don't give anyone weapon to make you happy or unhappy. I see this

when you say life is useless and I am hurt etc etc. How do you know

something better is not going to happen?

Just get up and roar like lioness!

Get interested in Life and appreciate what has been given to you

rather what has been denied! You will feel better if you think this

way.

Read Gita and also listen to someone like Swamiji or someone you

trust, in whose presence you feel joyous!

If in a relationship Love is not felt, why do you want to get

attached to it? Look forward and be open for a new relationship in

which both of you can enrich.

See that such thoughts only create fear in you where there is no

fear! It is attachment to some image of this person who is dumping

you that creates insecurity and breeds fear!

Be brave and bold and trust Life, which is another name for God!

Accept whatever comes your way and make it as your inner attitude,

Change yourself first, then you will know what is needed to be

changed.

Bring God consciousness in your life by praying and acknowledging

you need help!

Above all wish him happiness in his relationship. This will free you

up from this grasp he has on you! Remember ill-will binds you while

well wish liberates you!

Namaskar.........Pratap Bhatt

----------------------

Dear Sadhak,

 

Let me first clarify that the Geeta does not provide any

guidelines with regard to marriage.

 

Tallying the boy-girl match, comparing their 'Kundali'

(horoscopes) was very much in practice during the past, when

marriages were solemnised at very early age, i.e. when the two were

minors and there was no other way of judging the future of the

couple. A very learned astrologer, who was a senior government

officer and practised astrology as a hobby, not as profession, told

me that, after the boy and the girl cross the age of majority, no

consultation or comparizen of horoscopes is necessary. You can judge

compatibility of the two through their educational and other

qualification and traits. When the boy and the girl themselves meet

and like each other, a reference to 'Kundali' is not required. Still

people do it generally to find an excuse to reject the matrimonial

relationship.

 

In your case, I suppose both you and your boy friend are

fully grown up. If your marriage is rejected from the boy side, it

is quite that the boy or the boy's family does not want this

relationship. In that case, you need not feel sorry or regret the

break off. You should take courage to face the reality and find

another suitable match.

 

Ram Gopal

---------------------------

Priya Sadhika, Namaskar

 

You should forget this boy. Think that you were not written in his

KUNDALI as his wife...Now find a boy who does not believe in

such things. One should see the relationship between cause and

effect. It is my understandings that the planets cannot have any

different interaction than any other individual...so the effects

cannot be different for different people...I believe that the

difference in life is because of inherited genetic differences and

the events in your life are governed by the laws of probability,

normally we call it FATE.

 

....Gee Waman

-------------------------

 

 

DETAILS

 

Namaskaar to all Sadhakas!

I dont know really how to

start my topic sorry too that i should not mention about my personal

problems. But im really sick of this life im tired i just cant or

dont want to continue i was a very happy go lucky person i regarded

myself before but now im totally broken im being hurt or made to

broke by the so called boy friend whom i respected and loved very

much now i come to this stage that he is not accepting me any more

due to some " KUNDALI' and its hard for me to live now every now and

then i feel his presence and his thought haunt me i found this life

very useless now without him. But when i happened to see some of

your new postings it ease my heart's feelings but still again the

same thought same feelings what should i do? i didn't see any

options to lead this life i'm very much depressed and frustrated

with this life. I'm fed up with this life so could you plz suggest

what should i do? sorry for the inconveniency in relating my

personal matters here.

sincerely, Priya

 

---------------------------

GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE -

1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted.

2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible..

3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the

extent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas

4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time.

5. Focus on subject at hand only.

6. Do not include links to the other sites.

7. Do not include your personal information (Ph #, address etc).

8. Do not personalize message

9. All responses may not be posted.

10. Moderator at his discretion, may modify the posting.

11. Take into consideration the novices, youth, westerners, non-

sectarian audience. i.e. limit the use to Sanskrit words only.

Provide English word bracketed.

 

MODERATOR

Ram Ram

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QUESTION SUMMARY: Boyfriend is now rejecting the relationship

because of " Kundali " (i.e. horoscope). How to deal? (What specific

insights can Gita offer in this regard? - GT Moderator addition).

Priya

------------------------------

 

NEW POSTING

 

Dear Sadhikaji,

Life is too short to repent over such a boyfriend. Forget him before

he dares to reject you.

Expectations, desires, attachment,ego all are our enemies. If you

see them creeping in just root them out.Read specially chapter 2 of

Gitaji where Lord describes the characteristics of a " Stitipragya " .

 

Accept only Krishna as your very own, love Him,and see the whole

world as a stage where you need to play yr part, but always remember

you are not the role you are playing.. Think this whole story as a

play. You meet someone, you love someone and now its time to dump

him as well, thats it.

Stop identifying yr self with this role. The purpose of human birth

is to realize GOD/SELF. Donot waste a single breath without

remembering God.

Meditate, read Gita, contemplate. Accept that whatever have happen

is for your own good, you might not see it now but later you will

realize that everything happens for our enlightenment only.

Now smile,and move on...

with Love,

a sadhika

 

Sadhna Karigar

------------------------------

 

Jai Hanuman

 

Hey Girl ! Priyaji ! Namaste!

 

 

Wanna be really peaceful? Throw your desire for this boy into a dust

bin, please !

 

Why this or that desire only? Every worldly desire !

 

Know that - desire of even the 'Baap' ( Papa/Father) of Lord Rama

was not fulfilled ! Who the hell are we ? Learn to understand this

world ! Throw away EVERY insistence, every desire, every liking,

every disliking- the very EGO and very MIND which generate them -

INTO DUST BIN please - Jee !!

 

What do you say Dear Sadhaks? Bolo Jee !!

 

Namaste Jee.

 

Jee Jee

Shashikala

----------------------------

Whatever the horoscope says please ask the astrologer to find a way

out of your condition Astrologer will tell to do some sadhana to

perform and ask the exact day and time to marry This is the solution

if suitable to you.n my opinion real love is important in human

life.Please follow your inner conscience and act accordingly Do not

hesitate to follow your own mind and your intuition

How do you like my understanding

Truly yours

 

S S Bhatt

 

-----------------------------

PRIOR POSTING

 

Madam Priya,

The amount of attachment put into our mind on anything, the same

amount of pain comes when it departs from us. Mother loosing her

most beloved child weeps profusely. If the same child was giving

pain to the parents, nothing but trouble, notorious, her weeping is

will be very less. Relatives around also will say better the child

dead.

What IF your boyfriend deserted you after marriage? I met such a

girl in a train running away to suicide in Ganga. I explained her

the value of precious life given by Bhagavan to attain most happiest

state. She asked how? I said become divine by joining a group to

service thereby uplift herself as well as society. She joined

Chinmayanandha ashram at Sadabairy. Perfected Geetha and now she

delivers wonder explaination on Geetha. Now she looks with clarity

in her mind and face. But for you, you can also opt to get married

by the guidence of elders and lead a peaceful life thinking of Sri

Krishna WHO is ultimate to one and all.

B.Sathyanarayan

--------------------------

Dear Priya,

 

I think whoever is moved by horoscope and not heart is not

worth to worry about.

Gita says: " samshayaatma vinashyati " -

someone who lacks clarity is doomed.

 

I am not sure when horoscope was ever valid.

Some people take it serious.

Some others, use it as a scapegoat (blame it on the horoscope).

We don't know where your ex-boy friend is coming from.

We will never know that for sure.

But one thing anyone can tell you is that he is not

worthy of one whom you want to figure out -

It is past time to take out the garbage.

 

Love

 

KST (Koti Sreekrishna)

--------------------------------

 

Priya,

 

I have been through a similar incident which wrecked my life and may

be able to offer advice since this is not really a topic for the

forum. I wish you well and hope you come out of this.

 

Best Wishes & god Bless,

Amit

 

Shree Hari Ram Ram

Amitji, you may be able to offer some general advice in this

regard. We do not encourage personal communication through this

forum. Thank you, From Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

-------------------------------

 

It is better to make boyfriends or girl friends after consulting

kundalis it seems. On the one hand you want to show yourself as

modern by going against arranged marriages and choosing your own

girlfriend or boyfriend. On the other hand you are so steeped in

ancient mumbo-jumbo like matching horoscopes that you reject a

girlfriend whom you have been leading down the garden path. So girls

should be warned. It is dangerous to get involved with boys before

marriage because the results many not match the endings you see in

movies. Forget that creep.

 

Hari Shanker Deo

------------------------------

PRIOR POSTING

 

 

Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!

To Priyaji, count your blessings! If someone were to reject you

based on Kundali not matching, stop worrying. Think of it as a

signal from God that there may be trouble down the road in marriage.

Or he may be forced by someone like parents or another elder in the

family. You say fine and move on!

Don't give anyone weapon to make you happy or unhappy. I see this

when you say life is useless and I am hurt etc etc. How do you know

something better is not going to happen?

Just get up and roar like lioness!

Get interested in Life and appreciate what has been given to you

rather what has been denied! You will feel better if you think this

way.

Read Gita and also listen to someone like Swamiji or someone you

trust, in whose presence you feel joyous!

If in a relationship Love is not felt, why do you want to get

attached to it? Look forward and be open for a new relationship in

which both of you can enrich.

See that such thoughts only create fear in you where there is no

fear! It is attachment to some image of this person who is dumping

you that creates insecurity and breeds fear!

Be brave and bold and trust Life, which is another name for God!

Accept whatever comes your way and make it as your inner attitude,

Change yourself first, then you will know what is needed to be

changed.

Bring God consciousness in your life by praying and acknowledging

you need help!

Above all wish him happiness in his relationship. This will free you

up from this grasp he has on you! Remember ill-will binds you while

well wish liberates you!

Namaskar.........Pratap Bhatt

----------------------

Dear Sadhak,

 

Let me first clarify that the Geeta does not provide any

guidelines with regard to marriage.

 

Tallying the boy-girl match, comparing their 'Kundali'

(horoscopes) was very much in practice during the past, when

marriages were solemnised at very early age, i.e. when the two were

minors and there was no other way of judging the future of the

couple. A very learned astrologer, who was a senior government

officer and practised astrology as a hobby, not as profession, told

me that, after the boy and the girl cross the age of majority, no

consultation or comparizen of horoscopes is necessary. You can judge

compatibility of the two through their educational and other

qualification and traits. When the boy and the girl themselves meet

and like each other, a reference to 'Kundali' is not required. Still

people do it generally to find an excuse to reject the matrimonial

relationship.

 

In your case, I suppose both you and your boy friend are

fully grown up. If your marriage is rejected from the boy side, it

is quite that the boy or the boy's family does not want this

relationship. In that case, you need not feel sorry or regret the

break off. You should take courage to face the reality and find

another suitable match.

 

Ram Gopal

---------------------------

Priya Sadhika, Namaskar

 

You should forget this boy. Think that you were not written in his

KUNDALI as his wife...Now find a boy who does not believe in

such things. One should see the relationship between cause and

effect. It is my understandings that the planets cannot have any

different interaction than any other individual...so the effects

cannot be different for different people...I believe that the

difference in life is because of inherited genetic differences and

the events in your life are governed by the laws of probability,

normally we call it FATE.

 

....Gee Waman

-------------------------

 

 

DETAILS

 

Namaskaar to all Sadhakas!

I dont know really how to

start my topic sorry too that i should not mention about my personal

problems. But im really sick of this life im tired i just cant or

dont want to continue i was a very happy go lucky person i regarded

myself before but now im totally broken im being hurt or made to

broke by the so called boy friend whom i respected and loved very

much now i come to this stage that he is not accepting me any more

due to some " KUNDALI' and its hard for me to live now every now and

then i feel his presence and his thought haunt me i found this life

very useless now without him. But when i happened to see some of

your new postings it ease my heart's feelings but still again the

same thought same feelings what should i do? i didn't see any

options to lead this life i'm very much depressed and frustrated

with this life. I'm fed up with this life so could you plz suggest

what should i do? sorry for the inconveniency in relating my

personal matters here.

sincerely, Priya

 

---------------------------

GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE -

1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted.

2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible..

3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the

extent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas

4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time.

5. Focus on subject at hand only.

6. Do not include links to the other sites.

7. Do not include your personal information (Ph #, address etc).

8. Do not personalize message

9. All responses may not be posted.

10. Moderator at his discretion, may modify the posting.

11. Take into consideration the novices, youth, westerners, non-

sectarian audience. i.e. limit the use to Sanskrit words only.

Provide English word bracketed.

 

MODERATOR

Ram Ram

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