Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 QUESTION SUMMARY: Boyfriend is now rejecting the relationship because of " Kundali " (i.e. horoscope). How to deal? (What specific insights can Gita offer in this regard? - GT Moderator addition). Priya ------------------------------ NEW POSTING Dear Sadhakas, Namaste! To Priyaji, count your blessings! If someone were to reject you based on Kundali not matching, stop worrying. Think of it as a signal from God that there may be trouble down the road in marriage. Or he may be forced by someone like parents or another elder in the family. You say fine and move on! Don't give anyone weapon to make you happy or unhappy. I see this when you say life is useless and I am hurt etc etc. How do you know something better is not going to happen? Just get up and roar like lioness! Get interested in Life and appreciate what has been given to you rather what has been denied! You will feel better if you think this way. Read Gita and also listen to someone like Swamiji or someone you trust, in whose presence you feel joyous! If in a relationship Love is not felt, why do you want to get attached to it? Look forward and be open for a new relationship in which both of you can enrich. See that such thoughts only create fear in you where there is no fear! It is attachment to some image of this person who is dumping you that creates insecurity and breeds fear! Be brave and bold and trust Life, which is another name for God! Accept whatever comes your way and make it as your inner attitude, Change yourself first, then you will know what is needed to be changed. Bring God consciousness in your life by praying and acknowledging you need help! Above all wish him happiness in his relationship. This will free you up from this grasp he has on you! Remember ill-will binds you while well wish liberates you! Namaskar.........Pratap Bhatt ---------------------- Dear Sadhak, Let me first clarify that the Geeta does not provide any guidelines with regard to marriage. Tallying the boy-girl match, comparing their 'Kundali' (horoscopes) was very much in practice during the past, when marriages were solemnised at very early age, i.e. when the two were minors and there was no other way of judging the future of the couple. A very learned astrologer, who was a senior government officer and practised astrology as a hobby, not as profession, told me that, after the boy and the girl cross the age of majority, no consultation or comparizen of horoscopes is necessary. You can judge compatibility of the two through their educational and other qualification and traits. When the boy and the girl themselves meet and like each other, a reference to 'Kundali' is not required. Still people do it generally to find an excuse to reject the matrimonial relationship. In your case, I suppose both you and your boy friend are fully grown up. If your marriage is rejected from the boy side, it is quite that the boy or the boy's family does not want this relationship. In that case, you need not feel sorry or regret the break off. You should take courage to face the reality and find another suitable match. Ram Gopal --------------------------- Priya Sadhika, Namaskar You should forget this boy. Think that you were not written in his KUNDALI as his wife...Now find a boy who does not believe in such things. One should see the relationship between cause and effect. It is my understandings that the planets cannot have any different interaction than any other individual...so the effects cannot be different for different people...I believe that the difference in life is because of inherited genetic differences and the events in your life are governed by the laws of probability, normally we call it FATE. ....Gee Waman ------------------------- DETAILS Namaskaar to all Sadhakas! I dont know really how to start my topic sorry too that i should not mention about my personal problems. But im really sick of this life im tired i just cant or dont want to continue i was a very happy go lucky person i regarded myself before but now im totally broken im being hurt or made to broke by the so called boy friend whom i respected and loved very much now i come to this stage that he is not accepting me any more due to some " KUNDALI' and its hard for me to live now every now and then i feel his presence and his thought haunt me i found this life very useless now without him. But when i happened to see some of your new postings it ease my heart's feelings but still again the same thought same feelings what should i do? i didn't see any options to lead this life i'm very much depressed and frustrated with this life. I'm fed up with this life so could you plz suggest what should i do? sorry for the inconveniency in relating my personal matters here. sincerely, Priya --------------------------- GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE - 1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted. 2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible.. 3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the extent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas 4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time. 5. Focus on subject at hand only. 6. Do not include links to the other sites. 7. Do not include your personal information (Ph #, address etc). 8. Do not personalize message 9. All responses may not be posted. 10. Moderator at his discretion, may modify the posting. 11. Take into consideration the novices, youth, westerners, non- sectarian audience. i.e. limit the use to Sanskrit words only. Provide English word bracketed. MODERATOR Ram Ram ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 QUESTION SUMMARY: Boyfriend is now rejecting the relationship because of " Kundali " (i.e. horoscope). How to deal? (What specific insights can Gita offer in this regard? - GT Moderator addition). Priya ------------------------------ NEW POSTING Madam Priya, The amount of attachment put into our mind on anything, the same amount of pain comes when it departs from us. Mother loosing her most beloved child weeps profusely. If the same child was giving pain to the parents, nothing but trouble, notorious, her weeping is will be very less. Relatives around also will say better the child dead. What IF your boyfriend deserted you after marriage? I met such a girl in a train running away to suicide in Ganga. I explained her the value of precious life given by Bhagavan to attain most happiest state. She asked how? I said become divine by joining a group to service thereby uplift herself as well as society. She joined Chinmayanandha ashram at Sadabairy. Perfected Geetha and now she delivers wonder explaination on Geetha. Now she looks with clarity in her mind and face. But for you, you can also opt to get married by the guidence of elders and lead a peaceful life thinking of Sri Krishna WHO is ultimate to one and all. B.Sathyanarayan -------------------------- Dear Priya, I think whoever is moved by horoscope and not heart is not worth to worry about. Gita says: " samshayaatma vinashyati " - someone who lacks clarity is doomed. I am not sure when horoscope was ever valid. Some people take it serious. Some others, use it as a scapegoat (blame it on the horoscope). We don't know where your ex-boy friend is coming from. We will never know that for sure. But one thing anyone can tell you is that he is not worthy of one whom you want to figure out - It is past time to take out the garbage. Love KST (Koti Sreekrishna) -------------------------------- Priya, I have been through a similar incident which wrecked my life and may be able to offer advice since this is not really a topic for the forum. I wish you well and hope you come out of this. Best Wishes & god Bless, Amit Shree Hari Ram Ram Amitji, you may be able to offer some general advice in this regard. We do not encourage personal communication through this forum. Thank you, From Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram ------------------------------- It is better to make boyfriends or girl friends after consulting kundalis it seems. On the one hand you want to show yourself as modern by going against arranged marriages and choosing your own girlfriend or boyfriend. On the other hand you are so steeped in ancient mumbo-jumbo like matching horoscopes that you reject a girlfriend whom you have been leading down the garden path. So girls should be warned. It is dangerous to get involved with boys before marriage because the results many not match the endings you see in movies. Forget that creep. Hari Shanker Deo ------------------------------ PRIOR POSTING Dear Sadhakas, Namaste! To Priyaji, count your blessings! If someone were to reject you based on Kundali not matching, stop worrying. Think of it as a signal from God that there may be trouble down the road in marriage. Or he may be forced by someone like parents or another elder in the family. You say fine and move on! Don't give anyone weapon to make you happy or unhappy. I see this when you say life is useless and I am hurt etc etc. How do you know something better is not going to happen? Just get up and roar like lioness! Get interested in Life and appreciate what has been given to you rather what has been denied! You will feel better if you think this way. Read Gita and also listen to someone like Swamiji or someone you trust, in whose presence you feel joyous! If in a relationship Love is not felt, why do you want to get attached to it? Look forward and be open for a new relationship in which both of you can enrich. See that such thoughts only create fear in you where there is no fear! It is attachment to some image of this person who is dumping you that creates insecurity and breeds fear! Be brave and bold and trust Life, which is another name for God! Accept whatever comes your way and make it as your inner attitude, Change yourself first, then you will know what is needed to be changed. Bring God consciousness in your life by praying and acknowledging you need help! Above all wish him happiness in his relationship. This will free you up from this grasp he has on you! Remember ill-will binds you while well wish liberates you! Namaskar.........Pratap Bhatt ---------------------- Dear Sadhak, Let me first clarify that the Geeta does not provide any guidelines with regard to marriage. Tallying the boy-girl match, comparing their 'Kundali' (horoscopes) was very much in practice during the past, when marriages were solemnised at very early age, i.e. when the two were minors and there was no other way of judging the future of the couple. A very learned astrologer, who was a senior government officer and practised astrology as a hobby, not as profession, told me that, after the boy and the girl cross the age of majority, no consultation or comparizen of horoscopes is necessary. You can judge compatibility of the two through their educational and other qualification and traits. When the boy and the girl themselves meet and like each other, a reference to 'Kundali' is not required. Still people do it generally to find an excuse to reject the matrimonial relationship. In your case, I suppose both you and your boy friend are fully grown up. If your marriage is rejected from the boy side, it is quite that the boy or the boy's family does not want this relationship. In that case, you need not feel sorry or regret the break off. You should take courage to face the reality and find another suitable match. Ram Gopal --------------------------- Priya Sadhika, Namaskar You should forget this boy. Think that you were not written in his KUNDALI as his wife...Now find a boy who does not believe in such things. One should see the relationship between cause and effect. It is my understandings that the planets cannot have any different interaction than any other individual...so the effects cannot be different for different people...I believe that the difference in life is because of inherited genetic differences and the events in your life are governed by the laws of probability, normally we call it FATE. ....Gee Waman ------------------------- DETAILS Namaskaar to all Sadhakas! I dont know really how to start my topic sorry too that i should not mention about my personal problems. But im really sick of this life im tired i just cant or dont want to continue i was a very happy go lucky person i regarded myself before but now im totally broken im being hurt or made to broke by the so called boy friend whom i respected and loved very much now i come to this stage that he is not accepting me any more due to some " KUNDALI' and its hard for me to live now every now and then i feel his presence and his thought haunt me i found this life very useless now without him. But when i happened to see some of your new postings it ease my heart's feelings but still again the same thought same feelings what should i do? i didn't see any options to lead this life i'm very much depressed and frustrated with this life. I'm fed up with this life so could you plz suggest what should i do? sorry for the inconveniency in relating my personal matters here. sincerely, Priya --------------------------- GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE - 1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted. 2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible.. 3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the extent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas 4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time. 5. Focus on subject at hand only. 6. Do not include links to the other sites. 7. Do not include your personal information (Ph #, address etc). 8. Do not personalize message 9. All responses may not be posted. 10. Moderator at his discretion, may modify the posting. 11. Take into consideration the novices, youth, westerners, non- sectarian audience. i.e. limit the use to Sanskrit words only. Provide English word bracketed. MODERATOR Ram Ram ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 QUESTION SUMMARY: Boyfriend is now rejecting the relationship because of " Kundali " (i.e. horoscope). How to deal? (What specific insights can Gita offer in this regard? - GT Moderator addition). Priya ------------------------------ NEW POSTING Dear Sadhikaji, Life is too short to repent over such a boyfriend. Forget him before he dares to reject you. Expectations, desires, attachment,ego all are our enemies. If you see them creeping in just root them out.Read specially chapter 2 of Gitaji where Lord describes the characteristics of a " Stitipragya " . Accept only Krishna as your very own, love Him,and see the whole world as a stage where you need to play yr part, but always remember you are not the role you are playing.. Think this whole story as a play. You meet someone, you love someone and now its time to dump him as well, thats it. Stop identifying yr self with this role. The purpose of human birth is to realize GOD/SELF. Donot waste a single breath without remembering God. Meditate, read Gita, contemplate. Accept that whatever have happen is for your own good, you might not see it now but later you will realize that everything happens for our enlightenment only. Now smile,and move on... with Love, a sadhika Sadhna Karigar ------------------------------ Jai Hanuman Hey Girl ! Priyaji ! Namaste! Wanna be really peaceful? Throw your desire for this boy into a dust bin, please ! Why this or that desire only? Every worldly desire ! Know that - desire of even the 'Baap' ( Papa/Father) of Lord Rama was not fulfilled ! Who the hell are we ? Learn to understand this world ! Throw away EVERY insistence, every desire, every liking, every disliking- the very EGO and very MIND which generate them - INTO DUST BIN please - Jee !! What do you say Dear Sadhaks? Bolo Jee !! Namaste Jee. Jee Jee Shashikala ---------------------------- Whatever the horoscope says please ask the astrologer to find a way out of your condition Astrologer will tell to do some sadhana to perform and ask the exact day and time to marry This is the solution if suitable to you.n my opinion real love is important in human life.Please follow your inner conscience and act accordingly Do not hesitate to follow your own mind and your intuition How do you like my understanding Truly yours S S Bhatt ----------------------------- PRIOR POSTING Madam Priya, The amount of attachment put into our mind on anything, the same amount of pain comes when it departs from us. Mother loosing her most beloved child weeps profusely. If the same child was giving pain to the parents, nothing but trouble, notorious, her weeping is will be very less. Relatives around also will say better the child dead. What IF your boyfriend deserted you after marriage? I met such a girl in a train running away to suicide in Ganga. I explained her the value of precious life given by Bhagavan to attain most happiest state. She asked how? I said become divine by joining a group to service thereby uplift herself as well as society. She joined Chinmayanandha ashram at Sadabairy. Perfected Geetha and now she delivers wonder explaination on Geetha. Now she looks with clarity in her mind and face. But for you, you can also opt to get married by the guidence of elders and lead a peaceful life thinking of Sri Krishna WHO is ultimate to one and all. B.Sathyanarayan -------------------------- Dear Priya, I think whoever is moved by horoscope and not heart is not worth to worry about. Gita says: " samshayaatma vinashyati " - someone who lacks clarity is doomed. I am not sure when horoscope was ever valid. Some people take it serious. Some others, use it as a scapegoat (blame it on the horoscope). We don't know where your ex-boy friend is coming from. We will never know that for sure. But one thing anyone can tell you is that he is not worthy of one whom you want to figure out - It is past time to take out the garbage. Love KST (Koti Sreekrishna) -------------------------------- Priya, I have been through a similar incident which wrecked my life and may be able to offer advice since this is not really a topic for the forum. I wish you well and hope you come out of this. Best Wishes & god Bless, Amit Shree Hari Ram Ram Amitji, you may be able to offer some general advice in this regard. We do not encourage personal communication through this forum. Thank you, From Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram ------------------------------- It is better to make boyfriends or girl friends after consulting kundalis it seems. On the one hand you want to show yourself as modern by going against arranged marriages and choosing your own girlfriend or boyfriend. On the other hand you are so steeped in ancient mumbo-jumbo like matching horoscopes that you reject a girlfriend whom you have been leading down the garden path. So girls should be warned. It is dangerous to get involved with boys before marriage because the results many not match the endings you see in movies. Forget that creep. Hari Shanker Deo ------------------------------ PRIOR POSTING Dear Sadhakas, Namaste! To Priyaji, count your blessings! If someone were to reject you based on Kundali not matching, stop worrying. Think of it as a signal from God that there may be trouble down the road in marriage. Or he may be forced by someone like parents or another elder in the family. You say fine and move on! Don't give anyone weapon to make you happy or unhappy. I see this when you say life is useless and I am hurt etc etc. How do you know something better is not going to happen? Just get up and roar like lioness! Get interested in Life and appreciate what has been given to you rather what has been denied! You will feel better if you think this way. Read Gita and also listen to someone like Swamiji or someone you trust, in whose presence you feel joyous! If in a relationship Love is not felt, why do you want to get attached to it? Look forward and be open for a new relationship in which both of you can enrich. See that such thoughts only create fear in you where there is no fear! It is attachment to some image of this person who is dumping you that creates insecurity and breeds fear! Be brave and bold and trust Life, which is another name for God! Accept whatever comes your way and make it as your inner attitude, Change yourself first, then you will know what is needed to be changed. Bring God consciousness in your life by praying and acknowledging you need help! Above all wish him happiness in his relationship. This will free you up from this grasp he has on you! Remember ill-will binds you while well wish liberates you! Namaskar.........Pratap Bhatt ---------------------- Dear Sadhak, Let me first clarify that the Geeta does not provide any guidelines with regard to marriage. Tallying the boy-girl match, comparing their 'Kundali' (horoscopes) was very much in practice during the past, when marriages were solemnised at very early age, i.e. when the two were minors and there was no other way of judging the future of the couple. A very learned astrologer, who was a senior government officer and practised astrology as a hobby, not as profession, told me that, after the boy and the girl cross the age of majority, no consultation or comparizen of horoscopes is necessary. You can judge compatibility of the two through their educational and other qualification and traits. When the boy and the girl themselves meet and like each other, a reference to 'Kundali' is not required. Still people do it generally to find an excuse to reject the matrimonial relationship. In your case, I suppose both you and your boy friend are fully grown up. If your marriage is rejected from the boy side, it is quite that the boy or the boy's family does not want this relationship. In that case, you need not feel sorry or regret the break off. You should take courage to face the reality and find another suitable match. Ram Gopal --------------------------- Priya Sadhika, Namaskar You should forget this boy. Think that you were not written in his KUNDALI as his wife...Now find a boy who does not believe in such things. One should see the relationship between cause and effect. It is my understandings that the planets cannot have any different interaction than any other individual...so the effects cannot be different for different people...I believe that the difference in life is because of inherited genetic differences and the events in your life are governed by the laws of probability, normally we call it FATE. ....Gee Waman ------------------------- DETAILS Namaskaar to all Sadhakas! I dont know really how to start my topic sorry too that i should not mention about my personal problems. But im really sick of this life im tired i just cant or dont want to continue i was a very happy go lucky person i regarded myself before but now im totally broken im being hurt or made to broke by the so called boy friend whom i respected and loved very much now i come to this stage that he is not accepting me any more due to some " KUNDALI' and its hard for me to live now every now and then i feel his presence and his thought haunt me i found this life very useless now without him. But when i happened to see some of your new postings it ease my heart's feelings but still again the same thought same feelings what should i do? i didn't see any options to lead this life i'm very much depressed and frustrated with this life. I'm fed up with this life so could you plz suggest what should i do? sorry for the inconveniency in relating my personal matters here. sincerely, Priya --------------------------- GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE - 1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted. 2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible.. 3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the extent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas 4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time. 5. Focus on subject at hand only. 6. Do not include links to the other sites. 7. Do not include your personal information (Ph #, address etc). 8. Do not personalize message 9. All responses may not be posted. 10. Moderator at his discretion, may modify the posting. 11. Take into consideration the novices, youth, westerners, non- sectarian audience. i.e. limit the use to Sanskrit words only. Provide English word bracketed. MODERATOR Ram Ram ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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