Bhagavad Gita - Daily One Verse Brief Explanation - II 2:9 II

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Ram Ram

 

II 2:9 II

 

Sanjaya uvaca

 

evamuktva hrishikesham, gudaakeshah parantapah

na yotsya iti govindam, uktva tooshnim babhoova ha

 

Sanjay said:

O scorcher of enemies, Dratrastra, after addressing the Hrishikesha

(indwelling Lord Krishna, master of senses), thus Gudakesha

(conqueror of sleep, Arjuna), said clearly to Govinda (Lord

Krishna), " I shall not fight " and became silent.

 

From Gita Prabodhani in Hindi pg. 22 by Swami Ramsukhdasji

 

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Chapter 2, Verse 9 is as follows;

 

Sanjaya = Sanjaya

Uvaacha = said

Evam = thus

Uktvaa = having said

Hrusheekesham = to Lord of Senses i.e. Shree Krishna

GudaakeshaH = one who has conquered sleep i.e. Arjuna

Param-TapaH = one who is destroyer of foes i.e. Arjuna

Na = not

Yotsye = fight

Iti = thus

Govindam = to Lord Krishna

Uktvaa = having said

TooShNeem = silent

Babhoova = became

Ha = clearly

 

English translation:-

 

Sanjaya said that after addressing the Lord of the senses thus,

Arjuna the conqueror of sleep and the terror to the foes, clearly

submitted to Lord Krishna, " I will not fight " and he (Arjuna) became

silent.

 

Arjuna goes back to his shell. Arjuna does not grant enough time for

Lord Krishna to respond and hastily concludes that he will not fight

and turns silent. Arjuna thus becomes a poor victim to the

apparently innocuous but ultimately poisonous argument of `futility

of war' as advocated by Sanjaya at the behest of wily King

Dhritarashtra.

 

While asking for help and guidance a while ago, Arjuna's mind was

receptive. Now his attitude of false renunciation is apparently

hardened one. This is the typical false `self denial' mode that is

displayed by millions of ignorant masses all over the world in the

hour of their great personal crisis.

 

Now the task of Lord Krishna has become more difficult as he is

required to pull out Arjuna from his shell-like mental stupor first,

then condition his fickle mind, rekindle the knowledge of the Self

and finally generate fire in his belly for selfless action without

bothering about personal likes and dislikes and ultimately usher him

to the divinity.

 

On the other hand, the best thing to occur to Arjuna is that he

became silent. The voice of truth can be heard only in silence in

the mode of introspection. Lord Krishna is waiting for such

opportune moment as he did not want to offer unsolicited advice to

Arjuna. Real advice is always sought and never doled out.

 

In this verse, Sanjaya clearly hints King Dhritarashtra that now

Arjuna is at the crossroads. Even though Arjuna seems to have

renounced the battle, one cannot trust that smart and smooth

operator, Lord Krishna. Sanjay has been dropping number of hints to

King Dhritarashtra to call off the battle and resolve the issues

amicably and seek the entire credit for his magnanimity; but due to

his infinite attachment to his hundred sons, he continues to ignore

the unsolicited advice of Sanjaya. Now Sanjaya warns that, whether

to call off the impending royal battle or not is under the ultimate

control of Lord Krishna and there are very high chances that he will

turn the tide.

 

In the contemporary language and content, Arjuna has already taken

`Voluntary Retirement', much before the very `Voluntary Retirement

Scheme' i.e. `VRS' is announced. So far Arjuna has been calling the

Kauravaas as desperadoes and now his final comment of `I will not

fight' is tantamount to an act of desperation i.e. full of

recklessness arising out of fatal mental despair.

 

Whenever a person craves only for his unfulfilled selfish desires

and associated imaginary impediments obstructing them, he ultimately

crumbles under the weight of his own emotional turmoil and

intellectual fatigue. On the contrary, when a person seeks a noble

cause, he continues to revel in his every activity, full of

childlike enthusiasm and boundless energy.

 

The universal teachings of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta are succinctly

summarized in the following beautiful Shloka;

 

" Mukam Karotee Vaachaalam, Pangum Langhayate Girim

Yat Kripaa Tam Aham Vande Paramaananda-Maadhavam "

 

I bow and prostrate to the Lord Vishnu, the source of Supreme Bliss,

by whose divine grace a dumb becomes eloquent and a cripple crosses

mountains.

 

Thanks & Best Regards,

Shrikant Joshi.

 

===============================================================

FROM " THE BHAGAVAD GITA - SADHAK SANJIVANI "

 

 

II 2:9 II

 

Comment: —

'Evamuktva hrsikesam gudakesah parantapa na yotsya iti govindamuktva

tusniih babhuva ha' — Arjuna honoured the Lord's word and wanted to

obey it. But after thinking seriously, over what Lord Krsna had said

and applying his own mind to his thoughts, came to the conclusion,

that war could result in providing him with an affluent kingdom,

honour and fame. But it would not wipe out his grief, worry and

misery. Therefore, it was not befitting for him to wage war. So

Arjuna speaks his mind in clear words " I'll not fight. "

 

Having declared his decision not to fight, and having nothing more

to say, Arjuna became silent.

 

 

From " The Bhagavad Gita - Sadhak Sanjivani " in English pg 84-85 by

Swami Ramsukhdasji.

 

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|| Shree Hari ||

Ram Ram

 

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support this divine work of daily one verse Bhagavad Gita

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explanation on a daily basis.

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OTHER SADHAK INSIGHTS / THOUGHTS / INTERPRETATIONS

 

-Shree Hari-

 

These paragraphs I pasted in below, are definitely worth

contemplating upon.

 

'While asking for help and guidance a while ago, Arjuna's mind was

> receptive. Now his attitude of false renunciation is apparently

> hardened one. This is the typical false `self denial' mode that is

> displayed by millions of ignorant masses all over the world in the

> hour of their great personal crisis.

>

> Now the task of Lord Krishna has become more difficult as he is

required to pull out Arjuna from his shell-like mental stupor first,

> then condition his fickle mind, rekindle the knowledge of the Self

> and finally generate fire in his belly for selfless action without

> bothering about personal likes and dislikes and ultimately usher

him to the divinity.

>

> On the other hand, the best thing to occur to Arjuna is that he

> became silent. The voice of truth can be heard only in silence in

> the mode of introspection. Lord Krishna is waiting for such

> opportune moment as he did not want to offer unsolicited advice to

> Arjuna. Real advice is always sought and never doled out.'

 

How many want to find the truth. BUT only if it fits ones personal

paradigm.

What Bhagwan reveals may not be what ones ego wants to find.

If one cries out to 'God the Beloved', then one should go the

distance with him.

It takes a certain courage ,(to start with) to abandon all you were

to Him, to stand alone looking to Him.

 

Shree Shrikant Joshi, I feel like a little child before a teacher, I

offer my greatest respects.

 

With Respect and Divine Love,

 

Mike (Keenor)

 

 

Jai Hanuman

 

In one verse (2:7) Arjuna says - I am sharangat (surrendered) !

Immediately he says in that verse- Pls teach me !! In next verse he

says- I will not fight. This thorughly confused mental equipment

would make Lord Krishna laugh in next verse !!

 

Sadhaks may note that the " surrender " here stated in 2:7 is

not " real " surrender ! One who surrenders never says -teach me ! Nor

he says - I will not fight. Real surrender was in 18:66 ! There

Arjuna says - KARISHYE VACHAMAM TAV- I will do as you say !! That is

real surrender.

 

This is Swamiji Ramsukhdasji Maharaj for you, Dear Sadhaks !

 

Namaste Jee

 

Jee Jee

Shashikala

Jai

--------------------------------

-Shree Hari-

 

In Gita 2:3 you presented an interesting observation regarding Jesus

bringing a sword Mt 10:34, of course what Jeshua the Nazarene

implied was that the inevitable outcome to society of his ministry,

was conflict. And it is my understanding, Arjuna was himself in

inevitable situation to do war on evil.

 

With Respect and Divine Love,

 

Mike (Keenor)

 

Bro I sent you an email a long time ago because I needed your

advice,

I was considering athiesm and infact tried it for the last two

years. Apart from the benefit of thinking rationally which Hinduism

teaches, I didnt find it fulfilling and it left me with a huge void

that I am trying to refill once again. But as I said I never heard

from you. You seem to be so knowledgeable and I am recieving

constant emails, it would be good to recieve a personal response

whenever you are free.

 

-Muski

 

Shree Hari Ram Ram

KINDLY POST TO GROUP, AND WE CAN ACCORDINGLY ASSIST. WE DISCOURAGE

INDIVIDUAL / PERSONAL EMAILS. From Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

 

Respected Sir,

 

Thank you for all your explanations and translations. Though

sometimes I cannot concentrate all the portions explained. But

still I try to read daily this mail - Bhagvat Gita - Daily one verse

brief explanation.

 

Best regards,

Ruchira Bose

--------------------------------

Thank you.

 

Can you not quote the shlokas in Deonagari Script? It will be easier

to read than in English.

 

Rgds.

Captain S.M.Divekar

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Respected Moderator Sir, pranam

My question appears to be out of context. But it is in my mind for

some time.

In an earlier write up BG (1/41) Shrikant ji has ref to

the " Vrushni " clan. Today we have a clan called " BISHNOI " who stay

in south-west Rajasthan around Barmer & in north Saurashtra. Their

name comes from the 20 Principles of Life which they follow. Since

Dwarika is close enough to this region, I feel their name is a

misnomer of " Vrushni " which has changed over a period of time.Am I

right??

May be some sadhakas can throw light on the matter.

Thanks and regards,

Suhas Gogate.

--------------------------------

Dear Sir,

 

This is really a nice effort. Great..

 

regds

 

Lalit Chaudhari

 

 

 

 

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II 2:9 II

 

Sanjaya uvaca

 

evamuktva hrishikesham, gudaakeshah parantapah

na yotsya iti govindam, uktva tooshnim babhoova ha

 

Sanjay said:

O scorcher of enemies, Dratrastra, after addressing the Hrishikesha

(indwelling Lord Krishna, master of senses), thus Gudakesha

(conqueror of sleep, Arjuna), said clearly to Govinda (Lord

Krishna), " I shall not fight " and became silent.

 

From Gita Prabodhani in Hindi pg. 22 by Swami Ramsukhdasji

 

---------------------------

Chapter 2, Verse 9 is as follows;

 

Sanjaya = Sanjaya

Uvaacha = said

Evam = thus

Uktvaa = having said

Hrusheekesham = to Lord of Senses i.e. Shree Krishna

GudaakeshaH = one who has conquered sleep i.e. Arjuna

Param-TapaH = one who is destroyer of foes i.e. Arjuna

Na = not

Yotsye = fight

Iti = thus

Govindam = to Lord Krishna

Uktvaa = having said

TooShNeem = silent

Babhoova = became

Ha = clearly

 

English translation:-

 

Sanjaya said that after addressing the Lord of the senses thus,

Arjuna the conqueror of sleep and the terror to the foes, clearly

submitted to Lord Krishna, " I will not fight " and he (Arjuna) became

silent.

 

Arjuna goes back to his shell. Arjuna does not grant enough time for

Lord Krishna to respond and hastily concludes that he will not fight

and turns silent. Arjuna thus becomes a poor victim to the

apparently innocuous but ultimately poisonous argument of `futility

of war' as advocated by Sanjaya at the behest of wily King

Dhritarashtra.

 

While asking for help and guidance a while ago, Arjuna's mind was

receptive. Now his attitude of false renunciation is apparently

hardened one. This is the typical false `self denial' mode that is

displayed by millions of ignorant masses all over the world in the

hour of their great personal crisis.

 

Now the task of Lord Krishna has become more difficult as he is

required to pull out Arjuna from his shell-like mental stupor first,

then condition his fickle mind, rekindle the knowledge of the Self

and finally generate fire in his belly for selfless action without

bothering about personal likes and dislikes and ultimately usher him

to the divinity.

 

On the other hand, the best thing to occur to Arjuna is that he

became silent. The voice of truth can be heard only in silence in

the mode of introspection. Lord Krishna is waiting for such

opportune moment as he did not want to offer unsolicited advice to

Arjuna. Real advice is always sought and never doled out.

 

In this verse, Sanjaya clearly hints King Dhritarashtra that now

Arjuna is at the crossroads. Even though Arjuna seems to have

renounced the battle, one cannot trust that smart and smooth

operator, Lord Krishna. Sanjay has been dropping number of hints to

King Dhritarashtra to call off the battle and resolve the issues

amicably and seek the entire credit for his magnanimity; but due to

his infinite attachment to his hundred sons, he continues to ignore

the unsolicited advice of Sanjaya. Now Sanjaya warns that, whether

to call off the impending royal battle or not is under the ultimate

control of Lord Krishna and there are very high chances that he will

turn the tide.

 

In the contemporary language and content, Arjuna has already taken

`Voluntary Retirement', much before the very `Voluntary Retirement

Scheme' i.e. `VRS' is announced. So far Arjuna has been calling the

Kauravaas as desperadoes and now his final comment of `I will not

fight' is tantamount to an act of desperation i.e. full of

recklessness arising out of fatal mental despair.

 

Whenever a person craves only for his unfulfilled selfish desires

and associated imaginary impediments obstructing them, he ultimately

crumbles under the weight of his own emotional turmoil and

intellectual fatigue. On the contrary, when a person seeks a noble

cause, he continues to revel in his every activity, full of

childlike enthusiasm and boundless energy.

 

The universal teachings of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta are succinctly

summarized in the following beautiful Shloka;

 

" Mukam Karotee Vaachaalam, Pangum Langhayate Girim

Yat Kripaa Tam Aham Vande Paramaananda-Maadhavam "

 

I bow and prostrate to the Lord Vishnu, the source of Supreme Bliss,

by whose divine grace a dumb becomes eloquent and a cripple crosses

mountains.

 

Thanks & Best Regards,

Shrikant Joshi.

 

===============================================================

FROM " THE BHAGAVAD GITA - SADHAK SANJIVANI "

 

 

II 2:9 II

 

Comment: —

'Evamuktva hrsikesam gudakesah parantapa na yotsya iti govindamuktva

tusniih babhuva ha' — Arjuna honoured the Lord's word and wanted to

obey it. But after thinking seriously, over what Lord Krsna had said

and applying his own mind to his thoughts, came to the conclusion,

that war could result in providing him with an affluent kingdom,

honour and fame. But it would not wipe out his grief, worry and

misery. Therefore, it was not befitting for him to wage war. So

Arjuna speaks his mind in clear words " I'll not fight. "

 

Having declared his decision not to fight, and having nothing more

to say, Arjuna became silent.

 

 

From " The Bhagavad Gita - Sadhak Sanjivani " in English pg 84-85 by

Swami Ramsukhdasji.

 

-------------------------------

|| Shree Hari ||

Ram Ram

 

All Sadhaks can and should contribute as well. Discussion /

clarification is encouraged

 

OTHER REQUESTS FROM SADHAKS -

 

Please feel free to take the lead in any of these areas so that all

sadhaks may benefit.

 

- Introduction to Chapters (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI)

- Chapter Summary - Principles and Laws emanating from it.(N.B. VYAS)

- Summary of Chapter from Sadhak Sanjivani " AS IS "

- Yes, Epilogue / Important Facts in each verse good to bring out.

- Any subtle thoughts / interpretation (MIKE ?)

- In-depth explanation of " Om Tat Saditi Srimadbhagavadgitaasu,

Upanishadsu..... " is a very good idea. (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK

SANJIVANI)

 

From Gita Talk Moderators

Ram Ram

-----------------------------

 

Shree Hari

Ram Ram

We deeply thank Shri Shrikantji Joshi for taking the initiative to

support this divine work of daily one verse Bhagavad Gita

explanation and Shri Madan Kauraji for the Gita Prabodhani

translation Chapter 1 and 2 and to Mrs. K Asani for requesting shloka

explanation on a daily basis.

From Gita Talk Moderators

Ram Ram