Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 || Shree Hari || Ram Ram II 2:17 II avinaashi tu tad viddhi, yena sarvam idam tatam vinaasham avyayasyaasya, na kaschit kartum arhati " Know that to be imperishable, by which all this universe is pervaded; for none can bring about the destruction of this indestructible. " Comment : That Sat-tatva (Real-Element, God) whose non-existence is not known, that itself is called the indestructible (imperishable) element by which the entire world is pervaded. Due to its imperishable nature and pervading the whole world, no one can destroy it. Destruction is only of that which is perishable and resides in one place. From Gita Prabodhani in Hindi pg. 29-30 by Swami Ramsukhdasji --------------------------- Chapter 2, Verse 17 is as follows; Avinashi = in-destructible Tu = indeed Tat = that Viddhi = (you) know Yena = by whom Sarvam = all Idam = this Tatam = is pervaded Vinaasham = destruction Avyayasya = imperishable Asya = of the Na = not Kashchit = anyone Kartum = to do Arhati = is able English translation:- Know that to be verily indestructible by which all this is pervaded. None can cause the destruction of the Imperishable. In the verse 3 of chapter 8 of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta, Lord Krishna has defined; " Aksharam Brahma Paramam " i.e. The Brahman is Imperishable. In the verse 20 of chapter 8 of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta, Lord Krishna has clarified, " But higher than the unmanifested beings, there exists yet another unmanifested eternal Supreme Being, which is not destroyed while all the manifested beings perish. " The Brahman pervades the entire universe including the terrestrial world. It is that Reality which exists eternally in all periods of time; even though the terrestrial world is ever-changing, impermanent and perishable. This has been very nicely illustrated in a beautiful Hindi Bhajan as follows; " MaaTee Kahe Kumbhaarase, Tu Kyaa Rondhe Mohe, Eka Dina Aisa Aayegaa Main Rondhungee Tohe " It means the clay reminds an earthen pot maker that right now you are making a pot by giving me a definite form and shape. But one day this form and shape will be destroyed, while I will continue to exist. Similarly one day you will be destroyed as well. Today, you are playing with me. When you get destroyed, please do not forget that, then it will be my turn. The Brahman exists as the substratum of the world. The worlds of state of waking, dreaming and having deep sleep arise out of the Brahman, exist in the Brahman, flourish in the Brahman, perish in the Brahman and ultimately merge with the Brahman. It is similar to the waves in the water. " While instructing the disciples, the Guruji first pointed out two fingers indicating that there are two relative existences of the Reality; one is the Real, the Brahman (energy) while the Un-Real is the Maayaa (matter). Then he folded in one finger thereby suggesting that the Brahman is a Universal constant; while impermanent Maayaa appears and disappears in a random fashion " …..Swami Ramakrishna. The Brahman is Imperishable, as none can cause destruction of the Brahman. There are six ways of destruction of a material object (a boat as an example) and they are as follows; 1. A material object undergoes self-decay and finally gets destroyed in the process. As an example a boat is created. It is deployed in service for many years. Ultimately, it rusts completely and finally it sinks. 2. It gets destroyed by another material object. The boat hits another giant boat and is destroyed in the collision. 3. It gets destroyed due to removal of the shelter of protection under which it can survive. If there is a heavy storm and the boat topples; as it is unable to float in the water, it sinks in the process. 4. It gets destroyed as its relationship with others gets snapped. If there is no one to avail of the service rendered by an abandoned boat, then eventually it gets destroyed. 5. It gets destroyed if the basis of buoyancy is not available due to an oil spillage. 6. If the boat develops leakages, which cannot be plugged then it sinks. Now let us consider the Brahman. These six reasons are not applicable to it as stated below; 1. The Brahman is not made of any matter. Therefore the process of self-decay is not applicable. 2. The Brahman pervades the entire Universe. Therefore, there is nothing else due to which The Brahman can be destroyed. 3. The Brahman is without any shelter of protection, so it continues to survive forever. 4. The Brahman does not have finite form and shape. Therefore, it cannot come in contact with anything else and there is no scope for destruction of the Brahman. 5. The Brahman is without any origin. It is birthless, ageless and deathless. 6. The Brahman does not have a specific purpose to achieve and therefore even in the absence of any purpose; it continues to pervade the entire Universe. In short, the Brahman is the reservoir of the infinite energy in the entire Universe. As per the conservation of energy principle, energy can never be destroyed, energy can never be created. All that is possible is to convert energy from one form to another form while maintaining the sum total of the energy in the Universe as a constant. Thanks & Best Regards, Shrikant Joshi =============================================================== OTHER SADHAKS Dear Sir, I am YOGA student and I desire to learn BHAGWAT GEETA and also to memorise entire gita as a whole. In this regard, I need your assistance and guidance. Dr Mohan ------------------------------ || Shree Hari || Ram Ram All Sadhaks can and should contribute as well. Discussion / clarification is encouraged OTHER REQUESTS FROM SADHAKS - Please feel free to take the lead in any of these areas so that all sadhaks may benefit. - Introduction to Chapters (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI) - Chapter Summary - Principles and Laws emanating from it.(N.B. VYAS) - Summary of Chapter from Sadhak Sanjivani " AS IS " - Yes, Epilogue / Important Facts in each verse good to bring out. - Any subtle thoughts / interpretation (MIKE) - In-depth explanation of " Om Tat Saditi Srimadbhagavadgitaasu, Upanishadsu..... " is a very good idea. (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI) From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram ----------------------------- Shree Hari Ram Ram We deeply thank Shri Shrikantji Joshi for taking the initiative to support this divine work of daily one verse Bhagavad Gita explanation and Shri Madan Kauraji for the Gita Prabodhani translation Chapter 1 and 2 and to Mrs. K Asani for requesting shloka explanation on a daily basis. From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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