Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 || Shree Hari || Ram Ram II 2:22 II vaasaamsi jirnaani yathaa vihaaya, navaani grhnaati naro 'paraani tathaa shareeraani vihaaya jheernaany, anyaani samyaati navaani dehee " Just as a person casts off worn-out garments and puts on new ones, so the embodied soul casting off worn-out bodies and enters into others that are new. " Comment: As a person does not change with changing of clothes, in the same way the Atman does not change with the change of the bodies, it remains the same. It simply means that with the modifications to the body or death of the body, there is no change or death to Atman. This is everyone's common experience that we stay while childhood comes and goes. We stay while youth comes and goes. We stay, while old age comes and goes. In fact, these stages are passing phases only, neither there is childhood nor youth nor old age nor death, only existence remains. From Gita Prabodhani in Hindi pg. 33 by Swami Ramsukhdasji --------------------------- Chapter 2, Verse 22 is as follows; Vaasaamsi = garments JeerNaani = worn out Yathaa = as Vihaaya = having cast off Navaani = new GruhNaati = takes NaraH = man Aparaani = others Tathaa = similarly Shareeraani = bodies Vihaaya = having cast off JeerNaani = worn out Anyaani = others Samyaati = enters Navaani = new Dehee = the embodied one English translation:- As a man casting off worn-out garments, puts on new ones; similarly the embodied soul, the Aatman, after discarding worn-out physical bodies, enters into others that are new ones. In Sanskrit language, `GruhNaati' means wears, while `Samyaati' i.e. `Samyak Yaati' means enters completely without leaving any trace behind. Before casting off old and worn-out clothes, every human being plans and procures new clothes. As an example in animal kingdom, even a snake first develops a new protective skin cover from within its physical body and then ejects itself from the old dysfunctional skin cover. The common denominator of the Aatman, the Pure Consciousness enters a physical body and assumes a state of Conditioned Consciousness with the specific set of mind and intellect. Every human being consists of three layers in his body namely causal, subtle and gross. These three layers are enlivened by the Self, the Aatman i.e. the subset of the superset the Brahman. The gross layer is what is visible as form and shape of a physical body. The subtle layer consists of the mind and the intellect which cannot be seen nor demonstrated. The causal body consists of unfulfilled desires i.e. Vaasanaas, which are inherent and intrinsic characteristics of one's personality. These residual unfulfilled desires are the trigger points for the state of new birth from the earlier state of demise of the old dysfunctional body, which no longer serves the ultimate purpose of the fulfillment of those burning desires. Every Jeevaatman i.e. a living being, the individualized specimen of Conditioned Consciousness, assumes a new form before disassociating with the old worn-out physical body. Since there is a finite beginning and a finite end to the process of individualization, it is classified as a `Kshara' i.e. perishable one. All such Jeevaatmaas are slaves to the `Maayaa' or `Prakruti' while `Ishwara' i.e. the Brahman is eternally Lord of `Maayaa' and in turn Lord of all the Jeevaatmaas. Please refer to the verse 10 of chapter 9 of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta wherein Lord Krishna has declared, " Under My August Presence, Supervision and Guidance; Prakruti i.e. Mother Nature gives birth to all things, both the moving and the non-moving ones. O Arjuna, thus the world continues to revolve and evolve. This evolutionary process commences at the cosmic dawn and terminates at the cosmic night. After a brief period of lull, the process repeats itself and the cycle continues forever. " Prakruti i.e. Mother Nature derives her power of action due to the proximity of Ishwara. As an example, in the presence of creative forces in sunrays, a tree absorbs carbon and releases oxygen, which is useful to all the living beings on the planet Earth. At the same time, such action results in the nourishment of the tree itself. In the August Presence, Supervision and Guidance of the Ishwara, everything in the regime of Prakruti functions as per Divine Plan and Purpose. Ishwara is therefore the Actionless Almighty. The eternal Brahman does not move from place to place as it pervades the entire Universe. It is the function of the embodied soul to move from one abode to another abode. In every birth, the enlivening principle gathers itself a body, mind and intellect formed out of the elements in Mother Nature according to the past evolution and the future needs. When the gross physical body falls away, the vital and mental sheaths still remain as the vehicle for the soul for its onward journey. Such a cycle of life and birth continues until all the desires in an individual are completely exhausted and he attains the state of Self-realisation. A rich man buys a new car every financial year to claim the benefit of the depreciation of the vehicle and to enjoy the luxury and comfort of state-of-the-art product of evolving new technologies. As far as the rich man is considered, the utility of the vehicle is over for him. However, the new owner who has purchased the car from him, finds it to be a `Value for money' proposition. Similarly, no one can decide whether a given physical body is worn out or not except its `wearer'. This explains why we should not mourn about untimely but natural deaths of newly born babies or young ones in the blossom of their individual life. Please refer verse 8 from chapter 18 in Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta, which has a similar meaning to the current verse, wherein Lord Krishna states, " When the Lord (Ishwara) enters a body and when He leaves the body, He takes away these (the five senses and mind), and goes as if the Wind carries the scents from their sources. " In summary, Lord Krishna advices Arjuna, " The idea of the death grins only at those who have no understanding and that it has no pain for those who understand its true implications and functioning. " Thanks and Best Regards, Shrikant Joshi. =============================================================== OTHER SADHAKS -Shree Hari- As Shri Krishna was fully aware of all his previous incarnations. Also refering to B.G. 11: There in the body of the God Of gods the son of Pandu saw The universe resting in One With its manifold divisions. (13) I have trouble equating the pasted statement with the above: '...On the contrary, Lord Krishna studied in details all the Vedas and Upanishads and formulated the impeccable, immaculate theoretical basis for the eventual epic battle.....' I just picked out verse 13 for its simply magnificence, the whole of Chapter 11 is totally inspiring. Also refer to chapter 10: I am the Self abiding in The heart of all beings; I am The beginning, the middle, and Also the end of all beings. (20) I am Vishnu of Adityas; The Sun among luminaries; I am Marichi of Maruts; Among the stars I am the Moon. (21) Of Vedas, the Sama Veda; I am Indra among the gods; Of the senses I am the mind; Intelligence in all beings. (22) . Why would Bhagwan study? With Respect and Divine Love, Mike (Keenor). -------------------------- Shree Hari Ram Ram We may (post as separate Topic, depending on the responses) Ram Ram ----------------------------- Shree Hari Ram Ram ALL SADHAKS, If you are aware of good suggestions of Dr. Mohanji, please email us. Dr. Mohanji, we will compile and send responses in one posting. Ram Ram ------------------------------ || Shree Hari || Ram Ram All Sadhaks can and should contribute as well. Discussion / clarification is encouraged OTHER REQUESTS FROM SADHAKS - Please feel free to take the lead in any of these areas so that all sadhaks may benefit. - Introduction to Chapters (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI) - Chapter Summary - Principles and Laws emanating from it.(N.B. VYAS) - Summary of Chapter from Sadhak Sanjivani " AS IS " - Yes, Epilogue / Important Facts in each verse good to bring out. - Any subtle thoughts / interpretation (MIKE) - In-depth explanation of " Om Tat Saditi Srimadbhagavadgitaasu, Upanishadsu..... " is a very good idea. (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI) From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram ----------------------------- Shree Hari Ram Ram We deeply thank Shri Shrikantji Joshi for taking the initiative to support this divine work of daily one verse Bhagavad Gita explanation and Shri Madan Kauraji for the Gita Prabodhani translation Chapter 1 and 2 and to Mrs. K Asani for requesting shloka explanation on a daily basis. From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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