Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 || Shree Hari || Ram Ram jaatasya hi dhruvo mrityur, dhruvam janma mrtasya cha tasmaad aparihaarye 'rthe, na tvam sochitum arhasi " The reason is that death is certain of which is born; birth is certain of that which is dead. You should not therefore lament over the inevitable. " Comment: Whatever has been obtained will be lost, no one can independently stop this separation. The reason is that whatever we get, it departs, is not ours and is not for us, it belongs to the world and is meant for the world. Its use is for the service of the world only and not for the individual himself. From Gita Prabodhani in Hindi pg. 35 by Swami Ramsukhdasji --------------------------- Chapter 2, Verse 27 is as follows; Jaatasya = of the born Hi = for DhruvaH = certain MrutyuH = death Dhruvam = certain Janma = birth Mrutasya = of the dead Cha = and Tasmaat = therefore Aparihaarye = inevitable Arthe = for the sake of Na = not Tvam = you Shochitum = to grieve / lament Arhasi = ought / should English translation:- Indeed, death is certain for the born and birth is certain for the dead. Therefore, you should not lament over the inevitable. Every human existence is valid for a finite period of time and it is a matter of dignity that every human being should accept gains with pains as well as joys with sufferings with equanimity. He / She should face challenges in his / her individual life with equipoise. The inevitability of death can never justify suicides, murders and genocides. One cannot desire, plan and execute death of other human being as a matter of free will and choice. Even death sentence is given only in the rarest of the rare cases in many countries. Unfortunately, the fear of death and fear of God is still being used as an instrument to streamline lives of many ignorants in this mortal world. The Buddhist Nun `Patacara' had consoled a bereaved mother in a very poetic manner as follows; " Weep not, for such is here the life of man Unasked he came, unbidden went he hence Lo! Ask thyself again whence thy son came To bide on earth this little breathing space By one way come and by another gone So hither and so hence – why should ye weep? " From a purely materialistic or atheistic point of view life is an ending stream of various manifestations arising from nowhere and disappearing into nowhere. On the contrary, theists believe that there is a plan and purpose behind every manifestation. The unfulfilled residual desires fructify into a new embodiment and the embodied one undergoes fresh new experiences, fulfills some of the residual desires, creates additional new desires and ultimately succumbs to death when the current manifestation no longer serves the purpose. Such cycle of birth and death continues till all the unfulfilled residual desires are fulfilled and the embodied one finally attains realisation of the Self or the unity with the Self. Please refer to the verse 6 in chapter 8 of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta, wherein Lord Krishna says, " Whatever living being, a man thinks of at the last moment, when the soul departs the physical body, that living form or manifestation he attains in the next birth. O Arjuna, a man on the deathbed has been thinking of that living form throughout his current life. " What we think of, we become. Our past thoughts have determined our present manifestation and those carried forward thoughts and additional thoughts in the present life will be responsible for the future manifestation. " If you can dream it, you can do it " …..Walt Disney. It reminds me of a very nice `Doha' i.e. verse from Santa Kabir, which is as follows; " Shoka Useekaa Keejiye, Jo Anahonee Hoya, Anahonee Hotee Nahi, Jo Honee So Hoya " It means that one should grieve only if something unheard off has happened. A death is a known fact. A birth is a known fact. Whatever happens, it happens only for good. Lord Krishna is trying to communicate to Arjuna the same eternal truth in this verse 27. Thanks & Best Regards, Shrikant Joshi =============================================================== -Shree Hari- Shrikant Joshi, Sir, I read with much interest Gita 2:25 your comment: 'It is very hard to conceive of an entity that cannot be perceived by the five standard sensory organs of a human being; which are eyes, ears, nose, tongue and skin. As per " ManaH ShashthaaNi IndriyaaNi " , it is Lord Krishna's invention that the mind should be considered as the sixth sensory organ. Although it is quite different from the sixth sense a girl / woman is supposed to possess.' Yogis, Sufi, and other mystics among Christian, Jews etc. transcend beyond the limitations of what one might consider the normal mind. Swami Vivekananda, dealt with this quite openly in his book,'Raja Yoga'. Is this refinement of the mind? Have you any thoughts/comments? Sir your commentaries, I find are totally stimulating, (love the scientific/technical thoughts), they certainly cause me to ponder deeply, to me they have a dynamic quality. With Respect and Divine Love, Mike (Keenor). || Shree Hari || Ram Ram All Sadhaks can and should contribute as well. Discussion / clarification is encouraged OTHER REQUESTS FROM SADHAKS - Please feel free to take the lead in any of these areas so that all sadhaks may benefit. - Introduction to Chapters (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI) - Chapter Summary - Principles and Laws emanating from it.(N.B. VYAS) - Summary of Chapter from Sadhak Sanjivani " AS IS " - Yes, Epilogue / Important Facts in each verse good to bring out. - Any subtle thoughts / interpretation (MIKE) - In-depth explanation of " Om Tat Saditi Srimadbhagavadgitaasu, Upanishadsu..... " is a very good idea. (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI) From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram ----------------------------- Shree Hari Ram Ram We deeply thank Shri Shrikantji Joshi for taking the initiative to support this divine work of daily one verse Bhagavad Gita explanation and Shri Madan Kauraji for the Gita Prabodhani translation Chapter 1 and 2 and to Mrs. K Asani for requesting shloka explanation on a daily basis. From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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