Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 || Shree Hari || Ram Ram II 2:28 II avyaktaadini bhutaani, vyakta-madhyaani bhaarata avyakta-nidhaanani eva, tatra kaa paridevana " Beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in the middle and unmanifest again in their end, O Bharata (Arjuna), what is there in this for lamentation? " Comment: The Self is indestructible and the body is destructible. From the gross viewpoint if we visualize the bodies, before birth they were not with us and after death they will not be there. In the present, it seems that they are with us but in fact they are moving away from us every moment. What is the gain in lamenting over the temporary union and separation of these bodies. From Gita Prabodhani in Hindi pg. 35 by Swami Ramsukhdasji --------------------------- Chapter 2, Verse 28 is as follows; Avyakta = unmanifested Aadeeni = in the beginning Bhootani = living beings Vyakta = manifested Madhyaani = in their middle state Bhaarata = O Arjuna! Avyakta = unmanifested Nidhanani = after the death Eva = also Tatra = there Kaa = what Paridevanaa = grief English translation:- O Arjuna, all living beings are unmanifest in their original state, manifest in their middle / transient state and return to unmanifest steady state after the death. What is there to grieve about? The waves in an ocean arise from the water in the ocean, they sustain for a finite time of period and then they vanish in the same water. In physics, a surface wave is a mechanical wave that propagates along the interface between differing media, usually two fluids with different densities. In fluid dynamics, gravity waves are waves generated in a fluid medium or at the interface between two media e.g. the earth's atmosphere and water in an ocean, which has the restoring force of gravity or buoyancy. Ocean surface waves are mechanical waves that propagate along the interface between water and air; the restoring force is provided by the earth's gravity, and so they are often referred to as surface gravity waves. As the wind blows, pressure and friction forces perturb the equilibrium of the ocean surface. These forces transfer wind energy from the atmospheric air to the water, forming waves. As soon as the state of equilibrium is restored, the waves vanish. In the same manner, human beings are born out of the Brahman on this mortal Earth, they enjoy their individual lives full of opposites of hot and cold experiences to their physical bodies, joys and sorrows to their minds and honours and dishonours to their intellects. After a finite period of time of their individual life spans, they succumb to death. The material world of objects follows the law of causation. The world of " effects " have origins from the world of " causes " ; while the effects are manifest and the causes are unmanifest. The current manifest world was unmanifest before its creation, for the time being it is available for human cognition as fully manifest and sooner or later it will fade away to become unmanifest. It amounts to the interpretation that the present came from the " Unknown " and shall eventually return to the " Unknown " . Even under this interpretation, why one should mourn as the eternal wheel of life cycle will rotate forever in such a way that what seems to come down, will rise soon and vice versa. The Self is very difficult to realise to all mortals on the planet Earth. Lord Krishna seems to pardon Arjuna for his inability in fully appreciating and grasping the Eternal Cycle of life and advices Arjuna that the least he can do is not to grieve over it. It remains to be seen if the questions regarding the origin of life on earth and the origin of life in the universe have the same answer. Thanks & Best Regards, Shrikant Joshi. =============================================================== || Shree Hari || Ram Ram All Sadhaks can and should contribute as well. Discussion / clarification is encouraged OTHER REQUESTS FROM SADHAKS - Please feel free to take the lead in any of these areas so that all sadhaks may benefit. - Introduction to Chapters (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI) - Chapter Summary - Principles and Laws emanating from it.(N.B. VYAS) - Summary of Chapter from Sadhak Sanjivani " AS IS " - Yes, Epilogue / Important Facts in each verse good to bring out. - Any subtle thoughts / interpretation (MIKE) - In-depth explanation of " Om Tat Saditi Srimadbhagavadgitaasu, Upanishadsu..... " is a very good idea. (GT MODERATOR FROM SADHAK SANJIVANI) From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram ----------------------------- Shree Hari Ram Ram We deeply thank Shri Shrikantji Joshi for taking the initiative to support this divine work of daily one verse Bhagavad Gita explanation and Shri Madan Kauraji for the Gita Prabodhani translation Chapter 1 and 2 and to Mrs. K Asani for requesting shloka explanation on a daily basis. From Gita Talk Moderators Ram Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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