How to Assure Last Thoughts at Time of Death are Only of God ?

June 26, 2009

Shree Hari

Ram Ram

Sadhaks,

1) Please share your thoughts on Gitaji / Swamiji / Scriptures or other on ways

to assure that last thoughts at time of Death of this Body are only of God so

that we may attain only God.

2) A persistent sinne, who thinks of God at the time of his last breath, will

God accept him?

From Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

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1) We have belief in saying based on the present janma karma our next janma will

be decided. Suppose one may do more sin in his life and at the time of death if

he thinks of god, will god accepts him?.

Also " His Thoughts " thoughts are not always constant, keep on changing one after

another, good and bad... " if any thought comes to the mind, whether it will be

only of God " and God Knows.

2) Photography illustration is good. Again, we never know when " Fly sits " and

" He moves the face " and " Photo is taken " ... But result is according to that and

we don't have control over it.

" we cannot think of whatever " -- Again " Vasudevah sarvam " very well said.

V.S. Raghaven

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Dear Sadaks,

As far I read from authentic scripts, the message is so.

1) The thoughts remembered again and again becomes Vasana. The example not about

Dog but from Srimath Bagavath Puran. Jada Bharath thoughts diverted on deer for

days, morning and evening. That only gave him birth as deer. Otherwise sadaks

think: Jada Bharath was earlier Bharatha Yogieewar. Srimath Bagavath says that

sometimes he went into trans in the morning until noon, or some times till

evening. To such a great person a deer birth should occure, is not understood by

sadaks. Mind that Bharath Yogi took birth in an ashram, had the instinct of

earlier birth. Though in deer form, he had intense ;longing for God. That again

gave him human birth as Jada Bharath, when he was totally unattached even to his

body (leave alone earlier attached to another body deer). He was to be beheaded.

His face was like just bloomed Lotus. But AMMA Durga appeared and saved him. He

preached king Raguguna. Sadaks please read this portion carefully. His Puniya

gave him birth as deer in ashram- not in forest. His puniya gave him past birth

rememberance. His puniya gave him knowledge when born as Jada Bharath. So GOD

never ever forsakes sadaks even if the sadak forgets GOD. May be Dog in temple

or ashram. Please do not under estimate puran or God. A little of Tapa, Pooja,

Dharma, Meditation, Prem on God is enough, HE will take care even if you forget

at the time of death. HE will give you rebirth in right place, right company,

right Guru and HE takes you to HIS abode. Faith I HAVE. Also Bagavan has said so

in Geetha.

Narayiniam script 2000 slokas written by Narayana Bhattardri of Guruvayur, was

totally approved physically by Sri Krishna. In that it says about Anthima Kal

(time of death), that Bagavan remembers you, even if you forget HIM at the time

of death, as you have walked several times to HIS temple, sang HIS glory many

times, heard HIS glory many times etc, which Bagavan says even if you forget MY

Baktha I (GOD) will come in to your mind, when eyes fails, ears fail, nostrils

fail and give you vision in order not to divert you from other thoughts, and I

(God) will pluck you like lotus from pond and take you to MY abode, says Sri

Krishna What more one wants.

Jai Sri Krishna

B.Sathyanarayan

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: Shree Hari:

Ram Ram

25th June, 2009, Thursday; Aashaad Shukla Tritiya, Vikram Samvat 2066, Guruvaar

In Gita 8/6 Bhagavaan says that - He who thinks of the Him, at the time of death

attains Him. Now what becomes of those, who do not think of Bhagavaan, but

think of something else? The answer follows in the verse Gita 8/7 -

Yam Yam vaapi smaranbhaavam tyajatyante kalevaram

tam tamevaiti kaunteya sadaa tadbhaava bhaavitah

Whatever object or being a man thinks of at the time of his death or departure

from the body, that alone does he attain, as having been alwyas in these

thoughts. (Gita 8/6)

An Important Fact

(1) A being is reborn in the body, he thinks of, at the time of death. As a man,

rearing a domestic dog thinks of it at the time of death, he is born as a dog.

As the programme broadcast from a particular radio station, is received at a

particular wavelength and then spreads in the form of sound, the thought of a

dog with which he has been connected in anyway, is caught by him. Then the soul

with subtle and causal bodies, enters the body of the dog via water, air

(breath) or food etc. Then, it enters the body of a female dog, and takes birth

as a dog, at the right time.

This can be explained, with the help of an illustration. A person goes to a

photographer and requests him, to take his photograph. The photographer advises

him to keep a smiling face, remaining still. But when the photographer asks him

to be ready, a fly sits on his nose and so he moves his face muscles, in order

to remove that fly. The result is, that he gets the photograph with a distorted

face. In the same way, a man is reborn, according to his thoughts at the time of

death.

As far as, the time to take a photgraph is concerned, we know it before hand,

but we do not know the time of death. So by purifying our nature and thoughts,

we should ever be alert and think of Him at all times (Gita 8/5, Gita 8/7)

2) In this directive of the Lord is seen both His justice as well as, His grace.

Generally justice and grace (mercy, compassion) seem incompatible, because if

there is justice there cannot be grace (mercy, compassion). But this rule is

applicable to the human beings and not to the Lord, as he is most merciful, and

a disinterested friend of all beings (Gita 5/29). So all His ordinances and

rules are full of justice and mercy.

Whatever being, a man thinks of at the time of death, he gets the same form at

rebrith. If he dies thinking of a dog, he is reborn as a dog. This is God's

justice. But He has given freedom to man to think either of a dog or of a man,

or of God and this is His mercy. A man can attain God, just by thinking of Him,

as he can attain the body of a dog by thinking of it. If a man starts thing of

His justice and His grace in form of mercy, he will be attracted towards Him

alone.

'Whatever longing a man has, according to that longing he dreams. He meets his

end (death) according to the dream viz., at the time of death he thinks of the

object according to his longing and he meets his end according to that thought. "

It means that at the time of death we cannot think of whatever we wish, but we

will end up thinking according to our latent tendency; and accordingly we shall

meet our end. The thing to which we give existence and value; with which we

accept our relationship and out of which we derive pleasure, we have latent

desire for the same thing. If we hold that the world can't provide us with

pleasure, we shall have no such desire for the world. If there is no such

desire, then at the time of death, if any thought comes to the mind, it will be

only of God because in principle — all is God — 'Vasudevah sarvam'. 'Tam

tamevaiti' — as the thread follows the needle, similarly whatever being, a man

thinks of at the time of death, that alone does he attain.

From " The Bhagavad Gita - Sadhak Sanjivani " in English page 980 - 982 by Swami

Ramsukhdasji.

Ram Ram

For ENGLISH WEBSITE please visit: http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.net

For full online discourses in Hindi: http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.org

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June 26, 2009

Shree HariRam Ram

Sadhaks,1) Please share your thoughts on Gitaji / Swamiji / Scriptures or other on waysto assure that last thoughts at time of Death of this Body are only of God sothat we may attain only God.2) A persistent sinne, who thinks of God at the time of his last breath, willGod accept him?From Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

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Shree Hari

Ram Ram

Sri Bhagavaan has said in Srimad Bhagvatam -

"Manasa Vachasa drshtayaa guhyateanyairapi indriyaihi

ahamaivanamatto anyaditi budhyadhvamanjasaa"

In other words, whatever is grasped by the mind, speech, sight, as well as other sense organs , (mind is also a sense organ in which thoughts arise), that ALL is ME alone (i.e. words, touch, form, smell etc.). Through deep inquiry quickly understand this principle i.e accept it. Then other than God will one be able to think of anything else? will they be able to remember anything else or inquire about anything else? And if our thoughts can be something other than God, then has God not told the truth?

Vineet Sarvottam

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Jai HanumanKeep praying and calling Him out frequently : Hey Naath Let me never forget you ! Hey Naath main apko bhulu nahin ! Whenever you get busy in your duties , suddenly as a habit say: Hey Mere Naath , I forgot you ! Please Nath: Main apko bhulu nahin !Hey Prabhu ! Let me never forget you !!Namaste JeeJee JeeShashikala

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Shree Hari:

Ram Ram.

Either 'All is God and God is All' hasn't been accepted or 'Existence of thoughts other than God' has been accepted. How is it possible not to be thinking of God any moment? What's last moment? Either every moment is last or no moment is last if 'eeshwar ansh jeeva abinaasee ...' (Self is part of God and is Eternal) Why worry for the last moment if it ever be? Avail of every moment living in 'All is God and God is All'.

Ram Ram.

Sarvottam

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Hari OmAns to Q1 is that you "become" of God by "accepting" firmly that - I am of God, only God is mine and nothing else is mine. It should be as naturally a part of your "self" as are facts like say "I am Brahmin" or say "I am married" or say " I am American" etc. These things you NEVER forget because you "accept" them firmly and hence without making any efforts for remembering the same - you never forget the same ! Similar natural, spontaneous, obvious, effortless "acceptance" from "self" should be of the Truth that - Mere to Girdhar Gopal Doosaro na koi! As you "accept" this - God also helps you as He says in 7:21/22 !!

Here the strengthening of "acceptance"(belief) is of automatic nature and God/Nature helps you in that. You have to resist doubting. You shouldn't be testing if you have become of God or not. It should be "sahaj" effortless "acceptance"! Thereafter in spare time keep mind filled with His thoughts. Start a habit of seeing Him everywhere. Make a habit of calling His name loudly whenever say you yawn, or sneeze or see something very good, bad, peculiar or strange or any bad thought comes in the mind or whenever there is discomfort in body ! Set His remembering triggers and keep increasing them. If suddenly His thought comes in mind- be happy and remember Him more by believing that He remembered you. Ans to Q2 - Yes ! It is a special concession and privilege of human life that even if by coincidence or unknowingly you remember Him at the last moment - you are through ! God is Great, Benevolent, and Kind. He wants His children back to Him !Jai Shree KrishnaVyas N B

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This Moment is all that narinder has ................

this Moment is all that narinder IS

Consciousness itself rises as intelligence to play the Game of the Moment Now......

the tired mind ,tired of the playing rests one moment in the Consciousness Now

in that repose,awareness rises in the mind ...............of the supreme Joy of Silence

Silence that narinder seeks in the death called 'sleep',only to play again ,and yet again ....

punar janamam,punar marnam,punar janamam,punar marnam .............ah !

........................and then !!!!

tired ,tired, tired,and tired .................... in the mind rises awareness of the unchanging self that dreamt and played ...........

played the game of punar janamam,punar marnam,punar janamam,punar marnam

this remembrance is in the Now..... The moment of death is Now

the moment of birth is Now.... birth and death .....die ......... die in the Now.......

the dream is over , awakening smiles .............

the dream never was ................. nor birth,nor death .............

this Moment Now, Consciousness ever smiling , is Krishna .............

Krishna Himself the remembrance in Krishna playing nari and narinder

you are nari,you are Krishna,you are narinder...........

the remembrance of God is now......now is the death, now the orgasm of Love ...............

Be yourself,Love yourself,watch yourself ......................

Krishna,Krishna,Krishna .......................... Jai Jai Krishna..................

all is happening by itself ......................

watch, watch, watch ....................meditate,meditate,meditate .............

this watching is meditation, this watching is remembrance

this watching is NOW ....................... all is happening by itself...........

meditate, meditate, meditate................ narinder, meditate ................

Krishna is playing the flute for you ...........................ah !

.................meditate, meditate, meditate................NOW

Death is NOW.

Jai

AUM

narinder

P.S. the answer is .............................YES,..........................if you can wholeheartedly love Krishna NOW....... this moment Now ................ at the time of leaving the body ,Krishna Himself shall come to you as His remembrance .............

This whole -hearted-ness in the Now is bhakti, surrender, Meditation, One-ness, Love , Bliss ........

ah ! meditate,....................... be whole-hearted ............................Now !!!!!!

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PRIOR POSTING

1) We have belief in saying based on the present janma karma our next janma willbe decided. Suppose one may do more sin in his life and at the time of death ifhe thinks of god, will god accepts him?.

Also "His Thoughts" thoughts are not always constant, keep on changing one afteranother, good and bad... "if any thought comes to the mind, whether it will beonly of God" and God Knows.

2) Photography illustration is good. Again, we never know when "Fly sits" and"He moves the face" and "Photo is taken"... But result is according to that andwe don't have control over it.

"we cannot think of whatever" -- Again "Vasudevah sarvam" very well said.

V.S. Raghaven---------------------------Dear Sadaks,As far I read from authentic scripts, the message is so.1) The thoughts remembered again and again becomes Vasana. The example not aboutDog but from Srimath Bagavath Puran. Jada Bharath thoughts diverted on deer fordays, morning and evening. That only gave him birth as deer. Otherwise sadaksthink: Jada Bharath was earlier Bharatha Yogieewar. Srimath Bagavath says thatsometimes he went into trans in the morning until noon, or some times tillevening. To such a great person a deer birth should occure, is not understood bysadaks. Mind that Bharath Yogi took birth in an ashram, had the instinct ofearlier birth. Though in deer form, he had intense ;longing for God. That againgave him human birth as Jada Bharath, when he was totally unattached even to hisbody (leave alone earlier attached to another body deer). He was to be beheaded.His face was like just bloomed Lotus. But AMMA Durga appeared and saved him. Hepreached king Raguguna. Sadaks please read this portion carefully. His Puniyagave him birth as deer in ashram- not in forest. His puniya gave him past birthrememberance. His puniya gave him knowledge when born as Jada Bharath. So GODnever ever forsakes sadaks even if the sadak forgets GOD. May be Dog in templeor ashram. Please do not under estimate puran or God. A little of Tapa, Pooja,Dharma, Meditation, Prem on God is enough, HE will take care even if you forgetat the time of death. HE will give you rebirth in right place, right company,right Guru and HE takes you to HIS abode. Faith I HAVE. Also Bagavan has said soin Geetha.Narayiniam script 2000 slokas written by Narayana Bhattardri of Guruvayur, wastotally approved physically by Sri Krishna. In that it says about Anthima Kal(time of death), that Bagavan remembers you, even if you forget HIM at the timeof death, as you have walked several times to HIS temple, sang HIS glory manytimes, heard HIS glory many times etc, which Bagavan says even if you forget MYBaktha I (GOD) will come in to your mind, when eyes fails, ears fail, nostrilsfail and give you vision in order not to divert you from other thoughts, and I(God) will pluck you like lotus from pond and take you to MY abode, says SriKrishna What more one wants.Jai Sri KrishnaB.Sathyanarayan

-------------------------: Shree Hari:Ram Ram

25th June, 2009, Thursday; Aashaad Shukla Tritiya, Vikram Samvat 2066, Guruvaar

In Gita 8/6 Bhagavaan says that - He who thinks of the Him, at the time of deathattains Him. Now what becomes of those, who do not think of Bhagavaan, butthink of something else? The answer follows in the verse Gita 8/7 -

Yam Yam vaapi smaranbhaavam tyajatyante kalevaramtam tamevaiti kaunteya sadaa tadbhaava bhaavitah

Whatever object or being a man thinks of at the time of his death or departurefrom the body, that alone does he attain, as having been alwyas in thesethoughts. (Gita 8/6)

An Important Fact

(1) A being is reborn in the body, he thinks of, at the time of death. As a man,rearing a domestic dog thinks of it at the time of death, he is born as a dog.As the programme broadcast from a particular radio station, is received at aparticular wavelength and then spreads in the form of sound, the thought of adog with which he has been connected in anyway, is caught by him. Then the soulwith subtle and causal bodies, enters the body of the dog via water, air(breath) or food etc. Then, it enters the body of a female dog, and takes birthas a dog, at the right time.

This can be explained, with the help of an illustration. A person goes to aphotographer and requests him, to take his photograph. The photographer adviseshim to keep a smiling face, remaining still. But when the photographer asks himto be ready, a fly sits on his nose and so he moves his face muscles, in orderto remove that fly. The result is, that he gets the photograph with a distortedface. In the same way, a man is reborn, according to his thoughts at the time ofdeath.

As far as, the time to take a photgraph is concerned, we know it before hand,but we do not know the time of death. So by purifying our nature and thoughts,we should ever be alert and think of Him at all times (Gita 8/5, Gita 8/7)

2) In this directive of the Lord is seen both His justice as well as, His grace.Generally justice and grace (mercy, compassion) seem incompatible, because ifthere is justice there cannot be grace (mercy, compassion). But this rule isapplicable to the human beings and not to the Lord, as he is most merciful, anda disinterested friend of all beings (Gita 5/29). So all His ordinances andrules are full of justice and mercy.

Whatever being, a man thinks of at the time of death, he gets the same form atrebrith. If he dies thinking of a dog, he is reborn as a dog. This is God'sjustice. But He has given freedom to man to think either of a dog or of a man,or of God and this is His mercy. A man can attain God, just by thinking of Him,as he can attain the body of a dog by thinking of it. If a man starts thing ofHis justice and His grace in form of mercy, he will be attracted towards Himalone.

'Whatever longing a man has, according to that longing he dreams. He meets hisend (death) according to the dream viz., at the time of death he thinks of theobject according to his longing and he meets his end according to that thought."

It means that at the time of death we cannot think of whatever we wish, but wewill end up thinking according to our latent tendency; and accordingly we shallmeet our end. The thing to which we give existence and value; with which weaccept our relationship and out of which we derive pleasure, we have latentdesire for the same thing. If we hold that the world can't provide us withpleasure, we shall have no such desire for the world. If there is no suchdesire, then at the time of death, if any thought comes to the mind, it will beonly of God because in principle — all is God — 'Vasudevah sarvam'. 'Tamtamevaiti' — as the thread follows the needle, similarly whatever being, a manthinks of at the time of death, that alone does he attain.

From "The Bhagavad Gita - Sadhak Sanjivani" in English page 980 - 982 by SwamiRamsukhdasji.

Ram Ram

For ENGLISH WEBSITE please visit: http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.netFor full online discourses in Hindi: http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.org--------------

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June 28, 2009

Shree HariRam Ram

Sadhaks,1) Please share your thoughts on Gitaji / Swamiji / Scriptures or other on waysto assure that last thoughts at time of Death of this Body are only of God sothat we may attain only God.2) A persistent sinne, who thinks of God at the time of his last breath, willGod accept him?From Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

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Shree Hari

Ram Ram

Sri Bhagavaan has said in Srimad Bhagvatam -

"Manasa Vachasa drshtayaa guhyateanyairapi indriyaihi

ahamaivanamatto anyaditi budhyadhvamanjasaa"

In other words, whatever is grasped by the mind, speech, sight, as well as other sense organs , (mind is also a sense organ in which thoughts arise), that ALL is ME alone (i.e. words, touch, form, smell etc.). Through deep inquiry quickly understand this principle i.e accept it. Then other than God, will one be able to think of anything else? will they be able to remember anything else or inquire about anything else? And if our thoughts can be something other than God, then has God not told the truth?

Vineet Sarvottam

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"TASMAT SARVESHU KALESHU MAMANUSMAR YUDHYA CHA..." (Gita 8/7)

"Therefore Arjuna, think of Me at all times and fight. With mind and reason thus set on Me, you will doubtlessly come to Me." (gita 8/7)

raja gurdasani

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Since most death is unplanned and sudden, unless you think of God all the time, you will not think of God at that time. It may be about your job, your investments, your wife / husband / other relative's issues, cars, or something else. Its only when you read, listen, discuss, meditate all the time about God, that at that ultimate moment will you think about It.

d mankikar

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Vineet Sarvottam says---""Then other than God, will one be able to think of anything else? will they be able to remember anything else or inquire about anything else? And if our thoughts can be something other than God, then has God not told the truth?""

Whatever a man is closely attached over days and months, that will come during death. There will be so many thought processes at death. God said, if you deeply think of something else, it is a desire. So to fulfil that desire one more birth. But at death if one thinks enough I had out of this life, all my family is members on stage called world, now let me be free to Go to God and not to return, he reaches God. Just at the moment of death alone if one forgets God, God gives him vision to remember HIM and take him abode. Ekanath Maharaj was daily expecting death, and was saying,

"Why YOU vital delaying to take me to your abode". But generally we never ever think death may strike anytime, as such we should keep saying Rama Rama or Krishna Krishna. Even we we see someone suddenly die, we say,"one hour before he called me, but I never thought this will happen", as if such thing will not happen to this body.

Jai Sri Krishna

B.Sathyanarayan

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Dear sadhakas,Hare krishna. This is in response to a question from a sadhaka. If we wish to remember God at the end, then we must remember the Lord from early on. We are all creatures of habit. The most common things come to our mind first. If we engage in devotional service from childhood onwards and continue till the ripe old age, then naturally the thought of God comes to our mind at the last minute. Lord Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita,"Abhyasa yoga yuktena,Cetasa nanya gaminaParamam purusam divyam,Yati parthanucintayan. "( Gita 8, 8). Which means," O' Partha, He who with his mind disciplined in Yoga meditates on Me as the Supreme Personality of God Head, engages his mind, in remembering me, constantly without deviating from the path, is sure to reach Me." (Gita 8,8)The way to remember God in the end, is getting into devotional service all our life. The chanting of Hare Krishna Mahamantra, is very practical for this age. When we chant, we are engaging our minds, ears, tongues in devotional service. This chanting purifies our hearts and in the end, takes us to the kingdom of Supreme Personality of God Head. The knowledge, we receive from Lord Krishna is perfect and is our liberator. Any body situated in the boat of transcendental knowledge can cross the ocean of materialism. Thank you,Hare Krishna. Prasad.A.Iragavarapu, M.D

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-Shree Hari-Dear Sadhaks, Namaste!Somewhere along the way, through trials and tribulations, I became aware of thepresence of GOD.My beloved wife said to me often, that she has always felt the presence of GODas long as she can remember.Look this has nothing to do with religion, or intellect, or indoctrination, theGrace of 'The Divine Beloved' is there for all, peasant or king, it'sthere,don't rationalize this profundity. This is probably what Swamiji meantwhen he said 'Accept'.Beloved Sadhaks, it's natural to talk to 'Father', I often talk to him in mymind, and also out loud, if I realize I have been silly, reacted inappropriatelyand such, I often say out loud or in my mind, "Yes! OK Baba I know, I know thatwas really stupid of me", and feel HIS loving warmth, like a little boy who hasbeen scolded by a loving parent.As for the persistent sinner if she/he dies suddenly young no warning, bigproblem, but if old age encroaches then the closing statement of SriSathyanarayan's post is hard to improve on, so with respect I will paste it in:'I (GOD) will come in to your mind, when eyes fails, ears fail,nostrils fail and give you vision in order not to divert you from otherthoughts, and I (God) will pluck you like lotus from pond and take you to MYabode, says Sri Krishna What more one wants'.How beautiful is that!With Respect and Divine Love,Mike Keenor

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Namaste.I humbly suggest that these verses pertaining to the last thoughts of death should not be taken out of context, as if they were simply inserted in Chapter 8 to inform us about our last thoughts at death, but should be considered as part of the broader theme of Chapter 8, leading to Bhagavan's exhortation "to remember Me constantly and daily" and His promise to His devotees who will "no more subject to re-birth". Let us start from the last verse in Chapter 7 where the theme continues into Chapter 8:"Those who know Me with the Adhibhuta, the Adhidaiva, and the Adhiyajna, (continue to) know Me even at the time of death, steadfast in mind." Gita 7-30.Then in Chapter 8:2 Arjuna asks about "time of death":"Who, and in what way, is Adhiyajna here in this body, O destroyer of Madhu? And how art Thou known at the time of death, by the self-controlled?"to which Bhagavan responds:

"And he, who at the time of death, meditating on Me alone, goes forth, leaving the body, attains My Being: there is no doubt about this." Gita 8-5

Remembering whatever object, at the end, he leaves the body, that alone is reached by him, O son of Kunti, (because) of his constant thought of that object." Gita 8-6

and so Bhagavan exhorts us to constantly remember Him so that at the time of death, when the time comes for us to depart the body, we will indeed surely remember Him and have Him in our last thoughts, and also importantly, the object we have in our very last thoughts will be Divine:

"Therefore, at all times, constantly remember Me, and fight. With mind and intellect absorbed, in Me, thou shalt doubtless come to Me" Gita 8-7

"With the mind not moving towards anything else, made steadfast by the method of habitual meditation, and dwelling on the Supreme, Resplendent Purusha, O son of Prithaa, one goes to Him." Gita 8-8

"The Omniscient, the Ancient, the Overruler, minuter than an atom, the Sustainer of all, of form inconceivable, self-luminous like the sun, and beyond the darkness of Maayaa" he who meditates on Him thus, at the time of death, full of devotion, with the mind unmoving, and also by the power of Yoga, fixing the whole Praana between the eye-brows, he goes to that Supreme, Resplendent Purusha." Gita 8-9, 10and then again, later in Chapter 8, Bhagavan continues this theme:

"I am easily attainable by that ever-steadfast Yogin who remembers Me constantly and daily, with a single mind, O son of Prithaa." Gita 8-14

"Reaching the highest perfection, and having attained Me, the great-souled ones are no more subject to re-birth"which is the home of pain, and ephemeral." Gita 8-15

"All the worlds, O Arjuna, including the realm of Brahmaa, are subject to return, but after attaining Me, O son of Kunti, there is no re-birth." Gita 8-16.

The message seems to be: if you constantly have Bhagavan in your mind and thoughts throughout your life, then you will create and accumulate divine vasanas and surely at the time of death you WILL harbour thoughts of Bhagavan, will call his name at the last moments, and possess thoughts of divine objects. So let us develop the habit of calling His name and keeping Him in our thoughts all the time: Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Hare Rama Hare Rama. Now, on the other hand, if you do not have Bhagavan in your thoughts during your life then it is hardly likely that at the time of death you will suddenly remember Bhagavan. There is a belief - sometimes taken to unrealistic and simplistic levels - that the last wish of Man before his death, determines the nature of his future; thus it is the last thought of man which has an important bearing on his future. Perhaps this may seem very strange, for, Man may do whatever he likes during his life-time and start uttering the name of Bhagavan on his deathbed so as to assure himself of a happy future. But we must not forget that the last thought of Man will depend upon how he has lived his entire life. Just as there there is no free lunch so it is there is not a miraculous last moment of remembering Bhagavan that will compensate for a tamasic lifestyle. Also, it is the content of thought that matters, not merely its structure. One may repeat the name of Bhagavan hundreds of times, but it is where the mind abides that determines the future. If at the moment of death, Man could come to a state of complete cessation of thought, then would he attain the blissful condition of the Unmanifest. But cessation of thought requires completion of experiences and this can only be achieved from a lifetime of devotion to Bhagavan. Sorry to disappont anyone who expects a Divine short-cut at the last moments before Death - there isn't any, but it is never too late to start. Go to Gitaji, study and live Gitaji and when the time comes you will attain that cessation of thought and Supreme Bliss. Ram Ram Deosaran Bisnath

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Shri HariRam RamBy purifying our nature and thoughts, we should ever be alert and think of Himat all times (Gita 8/5, Gita 8/7).To assure last thoughts at time of death are only of God,we should be alert & think of Him at all times as assured by God in Bhagwat Gita 8(6)Faith in Slok of Gita 8(5,6,7) and be assure by practice of thinking of God asaim all times. I am also trying.Thanks & RegardsPawan Kumar Singhal

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P> Jai Hanuman

Keep praying and calling Him out frequently : Hey Naath Let me never forget you ! Hey Naath main apko bhulu nahin ! Whenever you get busy in your duties , suddenly as a habit say: Hey Mere Naath , I forgot you ! Please Nath: Main apko bhulu nahin !

Hey Prabhu ! Let me never forget you !!

Namaste Jee

Jee JeeShashikala

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Shree Hari:Ram Ram.Either 'All is God and God is All' hasn't been accepted or 'Existence of thoughts other than God' has been accepted. How is it possible not to be thinking of God any moment? What's last moment? Either every moment is last or no moment is last if 'eeshwar ansh jeeva abinaasee ...' (Self is part of God and is Eternal) Why worry for the last moment if it ever be? Avail of every moment living in 'All is God and God is All'.Ram Ram.Sarvottam ---------Hari Om

Ans to Q1 is that you "become" of God by "accepting" firmly that - I am of God, only God is mine and nothing else is mine. It should be as naturally a part of your "self" as are facts like say "I am Brahmin" or say "I am married" or say " I am American" etc. These things you NEVER forget because you "accept" them firmly and hence without making any efforts for remembering the same - you never forget the same ! Similar natural, spontaneous, obvious, effortless "acceptance" from "self" should be of the Truth that - Mere to Girdhar Gopal Doosaro na koi! As you "accept" this - God also helps you as He says in 7:21/22 !!

Here the strengthening of "acceptance"(belief) is of automatic nature and God/Nature helps you in that. You have to resist doubting. You shouldn't be testing if you have become of God or not. It should be "sahaj" effortless "acceptance"! Thereafter in spare time keep mind filled with His thoughts. Start a habit of seeing Him everywhere. Make a habit of calling His name loudly whenever say you yawn, or sneeze or see something very good, bad, peculiar or strange or any bad thought comes in the mind or whenever there is discomfort in body ! Set His remembering triggers and keep increasing them. If suddenly His thought comes in mind- be happy and remember Him more by believing that He remembered you.

Ans to Q2 - Yes ! It is a special concession and privilege of human life that even if by coincidence or unknowingly you remember Him at the last moment - you are through ! God is Great, Benevolent, and Kind. He wants His children back to Him !

Jai Shree Krishna

Vyas N B

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This Moment is all that narinder has ................ this Moment is all that narinder IS Consciousness itself rises as intelligence to play the Game of the Moment Now...... the tired mind ,tired of the playing rests one moment in the Consciousness Now in that repose,awareness rises in the mind ...............of the supreme Joy of Silence Silence that narinder seeks in the death called 'sleep',only to play again ,and yet again .... punar janamam,punar marnam,punar janamam,punar marnam .............ah ! ........................and then !!!! tired ,tired, tired,and tired .................... in the mind rises awareness of the unchanging self that dreamt and played ........... played the game of punar janamam,punar marnam,punar janamam,punar marnam this remembrance is in the Now..... The moment of death is Now the moment of birth is Now.... birth and death .....die ......... die in the Now....... the dream is over , awakening smiles ............. the dream never was ................. nor birth,nor death ............. this Moment Now, Consciousness ever smiling , is Krishna ............. Krishna Himself the remembrance in Krishna playing nari and narinder you are nari,you are Krishna,you are narinder........... the remembrance of God is now......now is the death, now the orgasm of Love ............... Be yourself,Love yourself,watch yourself ...................... Krishna,Krishna,Krishna .......................... Jai Jai Krishna.................. all is happening by itself ...................... watch, watch, watch ....................meditate,meditate,meditate ............. this watching is meditation, this watching is remembrance this watching is NOW ....................... all is happening by itself........... meditate, meditate, meditate................ narinder, meditate ................ Krishna is playing the flute for you ...........................ah ! .................meditate, meditate, meditate................NOW Death is NOW. Jai AUMnarinder P.S. the answer is .............................YES,..........................if you can wholeheartedly love Krishna NOW....... this moment Now ................ at the time of leaving the body ,Krishna Himself shall come to you as His remembrance .............