Saadhan (Spiritual Discipline) Please Enlighten !

August 1, 2009

Sadar Pranam

Does saadhan mean a specified method of practice of asana, pranayama,japa,

meditation etc. according to some specific system or some thing else? Please

enlighten. Thank you & Pranaam.

Prabhakar Singh

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August 2, 2009

Sadar PranamDoes saadhan mean a specified method of practice of asana, pranayama,japa,meditation etc. according to some specific system or some thing else? Pleaseenlighten. Thank you & Pranaam.Prabhakar Singh--------------------------------

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Hari OmSadhan/ Sadhana is turning your Self towards Paramatma/Supreme Self (Sadhya) and proceeding towards Him to realise Him or Supreme Self ; and till Sadhya (Goal, Paramatma) is realised remaining 24x7 engrossed into it. Service, Dispassion, and Single point Devotion coupled with Equanimity (Yoga) are basic sadhans of Karma , Jnana and Bhakti. Equanimity and Bhakti are sadhans as well as Sadhya. Jai Shree KrishnaVyas N B ------------------------------

Dear Sri Prabakar & Sadaks,Saadhan is an achievement of a regular practice. Say a boy walking on rope is Saadhan. This can be in any field. Even a thief by wrong Saadhan becomes notorious.Saadhan focused on divine matter- pooja, japa, namasankeerthan, meditation, dharmic way of living, doing Karma as said in Geetha is Saadhan. Harischandra practiced speaking truth inspite of threat to his life. That is saadhan.Duryodhan always practiced Greed, Anger and jealosy which were his Saadhan. This Saadhan made him blind of realization of Paramathuma even when Sri Krishna showed Viswaroop. Harischandra Saadhan had no chance of any vision of God, but lead him to Heavens.Bagavan in Geetha said, "How a Baktha looks at me in his mind regularly, so I (God) appear to him". If Duryodhan saw Sri Krishna as Virodh (Enemy), so HE appeared.Those who live by sword shall die by sword- A chirstian philosophy.Samartha Ramadoss was stounch Rama Baktha (devotee) and practiced crores (several millions) of Rama Japa (name recitation) . Sri Rama appeared to that saint. But one day he was made to enter Panderpur by Marathi Shivaji. Ramadoss on seeing Sri Krishna/Pandurang, sang a song, which meant the following.Sri Rama- Why are you keeping your hands on your hip- Where your Dhannus (Bow & Arrow). The Dhanus appeared and Pandurang looked as Sri Rama holding bow.Sri Rama- Where is mother Seetha and who is this Rukumayi? Votaba turned as Seetha.Sri Rama- Where is your army of monkeys with Hanuman? Hanuman and monkeys appeared.This is truth not story. It happened during Marathi Shivaji time.Faith can move mountains.Jai Sri KrishnaB.Sathyanarayan

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Hi,

Kindly study the following:

Saadhan means the efforts one put to purify the mind and become as a fully enlightened being with the help of righteousness. Asana, Pranayama, Japa and Meditation are also can be called as Saadhan.

By asking this question you have taken one wholesome step in your Saadhan. Like this one will take many steps to become as a perfected being. Some of the steps are acquiring knowledge to stay away from sinful actions and do wholesome actions (Like reading BhagawadGita, reading spiritual books and other scriptures which guides you on righteousness), Controlling the mind through different techniques like Asana, Pranayama, Japa and Meditation, Surrendering to GOD and remain connected to him at all the time and Serving fellow beings for their upliftment.

Even if you think like O GOD I am so Ignorant please enlighten me.. please protect me from the worldly illusions.., you are progressing in your Sadhana.

All the best!

Anandan Sivasankaran

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Sadhana does include this and it covers a much wider scope. It differs fromperson to person. If unable to decide for self, then it is better to work under guidance of an advanced Sadhak to decide specific Sadhans. Jayantilal Shah

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Yes sadhana means the practice of doing certain things regularly. It could be a number of yogic excercises, pranayam, vastrika and kriya to repeat daily for our physical,mental and spiritual well-being. This is called sadhna. Hari Shanker Deo

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GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE -FOR QUESTIONER1. The questions as far as possible must be relevant to Gita, relevant toDharma, relavant to other scriptures and relevant to motivate Sadhaks to take upspiritual path2. The Questioner must commit to daily Gita study3. Only one question at a time.4. Question must be brief, to the point and relevant to the group's primary aimof deeper understanding of Gita.GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES for RESPONDER: PLEASE -1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted.2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible.3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the extent that theyfurther help in understanding the Gita shlokas4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time.5. Focus on subject at hand only.6. Do not include links to the other sites; personal information (Ph #, addressetc) or personalize message to particular person7. All responses may not be posted and moderator at his discretion, may modifythe posting.8. Please keep in mind novices, youth, westerners, non-sectarian audience. Limitthe use to Sanskrit words and provide English word bracketed.MODERATORRam Ram------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Post message: Subscribe: - Unsubscribe: -

August 5, 2009

Sadar PranamDoes saadhan mean a specified method of practice of asana, pranayama,japa,meditation etc. according to some specific system or some thing else? Pleaseenlighten. Thank you & Pranaam.Prabhakar Singh--------------------------------

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Priy Sadhak,

When sadhana is done in sharan (refuge) of prabhu ji (God) then it becomes very simple,

Like Lord Ramji said to Kakbhushundi in Manas

Mam prasad nahi sadhan kheda.

Or swamiji said sadhan (spiritual practice), sadhya (Goal, God) & sadhak (Aspirant) merges to be one thats fully self content & Karan nirpeksh (instrument independent)

Thanx

Raja Gurdasani

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Ram RamDear Prabhakarji,I am pasting 2 excerpts from Sadhak-Sanjeevani which succinctly answer your question.1. Commentary of verse 6/25 Except meditating in seclusion, even while carrying out other activities sadhak should accept that Parmatma pervades everywhere. While working when sadhak is vigilant and accepts Parmatma's existence, then he will get lot of help in meditation and while meditating in seclusion if sadhak ignores other worldly thoughts and remains firm in Parmatma then it will help him lot to remember Parmatma while working. Those who are sadhak they are not a sadhak merely for an hour or two, they are sadhak for 24 hours. As a Brahmin is always situated in Brahminism, similarly every jeeva is also situated in Parmatma. A Brahmin is born but Parmatma is not born. But when working, as attention is towards things, activities, persons etc., Parmatma which resides in them is not visible. Therefore while meditating in seclusion and carrying out worldly duties sadhak's eye should only be over the fact that in every country, time, object, person, incidence, action etc. Parmatma pervades completely as it is. He should be situated in Him and not think of anything else.

2. Commentary of verse 12/1 Sadhak makes a very big mistake that while performing spiritual activities , he thinks that he is one with God, but while performing worldly duties he thinks that he is one with world. The reason of this mistake is that he has not fixed God-Realization, as the only aim of his life. If he realizes that the only aim of human life is God-Realization, and sticks to it, all his activities will conduce him to God-realization. If a sadhak thinks of the Lord, at the beginning of an activity and its end, it means that he has thought of Lord, even during the performance of the activity, in the same way as the accountant while making entries in his accounts book, gets so much absorbed in it, that he even forgets who he is, and why he is making those entries and calculations. His concentration is only towards figures. Before tallying his sentiment was 'I am XYZ, an accountant and am tallying these figures for so-and-so work'. After finishing with tallying his sentiment is 'I am XYZ, an accountant and was tallying these figures.' Though it seems forgetfulness while tallying, it is actually not forgetfulness. Similarly, a sadhak also believes that he is God's and whatever action he performs it is only for Him and doesn't have an iota of doubt in it then, when he is engrossed in performing duties his apparent forgetfulness of God is also not considered forgetfulness.Thanks,Hare KrishnaVarun P. Paprunia

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Dear Sadhak-insight

Sadhana means worship which includes nine types of Bhakti including yoga and meditation practice.Each and every person can reach to God by adopting any one of the ways In meditation we have to go further by stages.First start with prayers,then postures,then mind becomes vacant we reach the stage of Samadhi then enter into actual concentration and finally reaches the stage of meditation giving us an opportunity to go nearer to God.Finally we aspire to achieve liberation.It comes after constant prayers, meditative practices,chanting His glories,performing social services and other methods of worship.It is a matter of actual experience rather than discussions .Faith play a significant role in such spiritual Sadhana This is my personal approach to Sadhana

Truly yours

Shankerprasad S Bhatt

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Hari OmSadhan/ Sadhana is turning your Self towards Paramatma/Supreme Self (Sadhya) and proceeding towards Him to realise Him or Supreme Self ; and till Sadhya (Goal, Paramatma) is realised remaining 24x7 engrossed into it. Service, Dispassion, and Single point Devotion coupled with Equanimity (Yoga) are basic sadhans of Karma , Jnana and Bhakti. Equanimity and Bhakti are sadhans as well as Sadhya. Jai Shree KrishnaVyas N B ------------------------------

Dear Sri Prabakar & Sadaks,Saadhan is an achievement of a regular practice. Say a boy walking on rope is Saadhan. This can be in any field. Even a thief by wrong Saadhan becomes notorious.Saadhan focused on divine matter- pooja, japa, namasankeerthan, meditation, dharmic way of living, doing Karma as said in Geetha is Saadhan. Harischandra practiced speaking truth inspite of threat to his life. That is saadhan.Duryodhan always practiced Greed, Anger and jealosy which were his Saadhan. This Saadhan made him blind of realization of Paramathuma even when Sri Krishna showed Viswaroop. Harischandra Saadhan had no chance of any vision of God, but lead him to Heavens.Bagavan in Geetha said, "How a Baktha looks at me in his mind regularly, so I (God) appear to him". If Duryodhan saw Sri Krishna as Virodh (Enemy), so HE appeared.Those who live by sword shall die by sword- A chirstian philosophy.Samartha Ramadoss was stounch Rama Baktha (devotee) and practiced crores (several millions) of Rama Japa (name recitation) . Sri Rama appeared to that saint. But one day he was made to enter Panderpur by Marathi Shivaji. Ramadoss on seeing Sri Krishna/Pandurang, sang a song, which meant the following.Sri Rama- Why are you keeping your hands on your hip- Where your Dhannus (Bow & Arrow). The Dhanus appeared and Pandurang looked as Sri Rama holding bow.Sri Rama- Where is mother Seetha and who is this Rukumayi? Votaba turned as Seetha.Sri Rama- Where is your army of monkeys with Hanuman? Hanuman and monkeys appeared.This is truth not story. It happened during Marathi Shivaji time.Faith can move mountains.Jai Sri KrishnaB.Sathyanarayan

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Hi,

Kindly study the following:

Saadhan means the efforts one put to purify the mind and become as a fully enlightened being with the help of righteousness. Asana, Pranayama, Japa and Meditation are also can be called as Saadhan.

By asking this question you have taken one wholesome step in your Saadhan. Like this one will take many steps to become as a perfected being. Some of the steps are acquiring knowledge to stay away from sinful actions and do wholesome actions (Like reading BhagawadGita, reading spiritual books and other scriptures which guides you on righteousness), Controlling the mind through different techniques like Asana, Pranayama, Japa and Meditation, Surrendering to GOD and remain connected to him at all the time and Serving fellow beings for their upliftment.

Even if you think like O GOD I am so Ignorant please enlighten me.. please protect me from the worldly illusions.., you are progressing in your Sadhana.

All the best!

Anandan Sivasankaran

-----

Sadhana does include this and it covers a much wider scope. It differs fromperson to person. If unable to decide for self, then it is better to work under guidance of an advanced Sadhak to decide specific Sadhans. Jayantilal Shah

--

Yes sadhana means the practice of doing certain things regularly. It could be a number of yogic excercises, pranayam, vastrika and kriya to repeat daily for our physical,mental and spiritual well-being. This is called sadhna. Hari Shanker Deo

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GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE -FOR QUESTIONER1. The questions as far as possible must be relevant to Gita, relevant toDharma, relavant to other scriptures and relevant to motivate Sadhaks to take upspiritual path2. The Questioner must commit to daily Gita study3. Only one question at a time.4. Question must be brief, to the point and relevant to the group's primary aimof deeper understanding of Gita.GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES for RESPONDER: PLEASE -1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted.2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible.3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the extent that theyfurther help in understanding the Gita shlokas4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time.5. Focus on subject at hand only.6. Do not include links to the other sites; personal information (Ph #, addressetc) or personalize message to particular person7. All responses may not be posted and moderator at his discretion, may modifythe posting.8. Please keep in mind novices, youth, westerners, non-sectarian audience. Limitthe use to Sanskrit words and provide English word bracketed.MODERATORRam Ram------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Post message: Subscribe: - Unsubscribe: -