WHAT IS 'PARAMAATMATATTVA' AND 'TATTVAJNAAN'?

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In 'saadhan-sudha-sindhu' (hindi) page 143 first column last two lines swameejee said, 'vah sarvavyaapee sattaa hee hamaaraa swaroopa hei aur vahee paramaatmatattva hei'. = 'that omnipresent existence is our essential nature and that is paramaatmatattva'. By this statement what is understood by me is "there exists nothing but paramaatmatattva" hence we can NEVER find 'paramaatmatattva' as what could be found was not with us before. This was said by swameejee on page 146 second column lines 9 to 11,"tattvajnaanakee ichchhaa karake hama ajnaanako sattaa deten hein, apanemen ajnaanakee maanyataa karate hein, jabaki vaastavamen ajnaanakee sattaa hei hee naheen." = "by longing for attaining tattvajnaan we give existence to ajnaan, we assume ajnaan existing in us, whereas ajnaan actually doesn't exist." Learned sadhakas are requested to tell if whatever is understood by me is correct? please support your answers from Geetaajee or swameejee.

 

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WHAT IS 'PARAMAATMATATTVA' AND 'TATTVAJNAAN'?Excellent statements and commendable appreciation indeed.TATTVA means "being THAT". BHAKTI means "being ever-merged in THE GREAT". Thetwo are synonymous. Tattva is Bhakti and Bhakti is Tattva.Tattva encapsulates everything including Its Gnyaana as well as Its seeker. Inother words, Bhagavaan encapsulates everything including the Bhakti as well asthe Bhakta. That is the very purport as well as the essence.Bhakta, Bhakti and Bhagavaan are ONE ... Seeker, Gnyaana and Tattva are ONE.The very fracture in The Union in one's perception forefiets the perciever (theseeker or Bhakta) from Gnyaana (Bhakti) and therefore from Tat (Bhagavaan).Being one in The One (Tat) even in one's apparently variant and fragmentedperceptions (wakeful, dreamful as well as sleepful) is The Tattva. The veryawareness is the Tattva Gnyaana.Desire for Tattva or Bhagavaan reduces the Gnyaana or Bhakti to useless notionsoften transforming to formidable obstacles in one's spiritual journey. Thedesire cocoons the desirer within its limited perception creating an illusion offragmentation in the otherwise monolithic universe, The Tat, The Bhagavaan.Respects.Naga Narayana

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The Swameeji version is closest to the deductive logic and hence imbibable.

Suresh Sharma

 

 

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