Ultimately What is it that Man Really Wants?

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Man himself does not know, and he does not believe anyone else, then ultimately what is it that man really wants?Please reveal your thoughts. In Hindi

manushya khud janta nahi hein our dushro ki manta nahi hein tho manushya aakhir

chahta kya hein .apne vichar prakat kare "RAMCHANDRA" --------NEW POSTING:Hari OmQ is as to -What does Jeeva want? Of course he wants - SAT ( I should live for ever) ; CHIT ( I should be all knowing) and ANAND (I should always be happy) ! Human life has been given to him to fulfill his basic necessities/desires of sat, chit and anand. Problem is that Jeeva wants to live for ever but with the body (which must perish ) ! Jeeva wants to know but about the world ( which changes and which must perish) !! Jeeva wants to become happy but by getting worldly things/pleasures (which must perish being transitory )! Hence in the end he always remains empty handed.Thus, there is no doubt regarding his desires (wants) ! Problem is the way through which he seeks to fulfill his 'genuine' desire ( need/necessity) of becoming SACCHIDANAND !! He erroneously wants to complete his desires with reference to the world, while these desires get fulfilled by 'renunciation' of world.Surprisingly, Jeeva always goes reverse ! He should know 'self' ; he tries to know others (world).He should do for others (world) ; he tries to do for 'self' ... He should get Paramatma ; he tries to get what is in pocket of Paramatma ( money/health/wealth) etc. Always ULTA (reverse) !Jai Shree KrishnaVyas N B---------hari om,Every human being desires happiness and peace, and his motivation behind all actions is for happiness and peace. This happiness and peace that he seeks cannot be attained in worldly things. However, if he desires these, then he mustsurrender to Bhagwaan. It is only in taking refuge of Bhagwaan that there is true happiness and peace. Kalpana DixitRam Ram IN HINDIhar insan kushi or santi chahta hai uske hai kam ka karan kushi or santi ko pana hi hota hai. ye kushi or santi sansarik moh maaya me nahi mil sakti. lekin yadi insan use pana chahta hai to use BHAGWAN ki saran me jana hoga. bhagwan ki saran me hi sacha sukh or santi hai.ram ramKalpana Dixit------------------------------Fellow learners,

Long back I discarded the theory that man is a rational animal. Man is an

irrational anamoly. He is a Jealous animal, the jealousy in man exceeds all

reasonable limits. As we "advanc" in time the jealousy of man is exponentially

increasing. Once we were jealous because we did not have what others had. Now we

are jealous at what others have even when we too have it. That is why it is said

in Bhagavad Gita

Trividham narakasya dvaaram naasitam Atmanah

Kama Krodhah tathaa lobhah tasmaat etat trayam tyajet 16.21, BG

Lobha, fanned by Kama which is described as Dushpoorena anala (never satiated

and burns Atma as fire does the dried twigs, generates Krodha and these are the

entrances to hellish sufferings.

As long as one refuses to eradicate Lobha and the two othe rusurpers, he/she/it

can not put a lid on what he wants. There is no question of Ultimate to desires.

HOWEVER ONE DESIRE AND ONLY THAT ONE DESIRE CAN KILL LOBHA AND KAAMA. THAT IS

THE DESIRE NOT TO HAVE ANY DESIRE.

Krishna

---Shree Hari Ram Ram That man who does not know, nor does he listen to / believe others, he is only tryingto strengthen his own beliefs through others. What to speak of such men, besides -Praying to God to illume their intellect (give them true knowledge). So be it, Vineet Sarvottam--------Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!It is unfortunate, isn't it? that man doesn't know what he/she really wants. This is, perhaps, because one never questions what is it that he/she wants. Sense organs contacting sense objects "out there" seem to bring pleasures here and there, so he runs after such objects.It is not the fault of sense organs and such objects! It is like running after mirage expecting to find water, an illusion, which can teach him if he cares to! One should see, at some point down the road, such objects don't have inherent happiness nor unhappiness in them. This is the where Grace plays the role, but only if such pursuits of momentary happiness makes him/her inquisitive to the extent that he/she is ready to lay down life to find if there is such a thing as permanent happiness, and if so, where is it? If one is sincere, one will be led to it!Namaskar...........Pratap Bhatt----------Dear SadaksMan does not know himself is "Aggaan" i.e lack of knowledge. Because of that he does not believe anyone or himself. Such a Man wants everything to his desire ending up with pleasures and pains.B.Sathyanarayan----------Dear Sadhakas,Hare Krishna. This is in response to a question from a Sadhaka. The purpose and essence of this life is God realization. The ultimate goal should be, to go back to His Kingdom.Lord Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita,"Natad bhasayate suryo,Na sasanko na pavakah,Yad gatva na nivartante,Tad dhama paramam mama. "( Gitaji, 15, 6)which means,' The supreme abode of Mine is not illuminated by the Sun, Moon, or by fire. Those who reach it never return to this material world. 'Lord's abode is self illuminating. Krishna jyoti is there. But in this material world, we are entangled by the three modes of nature,(sattva, rajasa and tamasa). To get out of this bondage, we need to practice japa yajna or chanting of the Holy Name. Hare Krisna Maha Mantra is easy and practical. Let us do just that and advance spiritually. Thank You. Hare Krishna. Prasad.A.Iragavarapu,M.D----------------In today's world man is confused because while he is taught dharma or the righteous path by his parents and teachers, to get ahead in life he finds that he has to take the help of yukti or skill and cleverness and shakti which means strength which in the earlier times meant brute strength and presently means financial strength. Since a person's success in life is measured by money, a man spends most of his life acquiring it by fair means or foul. Ultimately when one gets older and wiser, one realises that money like everything else in this world is just an illusion and there is some other need that has to be addressed. He realises that the body which he has cared for so long is going to die and that the only thing that will remain is the soul which he had neglected all these years. Then one takes the path shown by our ancient teachers like Buddha, the path of bhakti or spirituality through sadhna or religious practices lie meditation, satsang, the company of good people or Gurus and sewa or service of the less fortunate which ultimately leads to mukti or liberation from the painful and endless cycles of birth and death.Hari Shanker Deo--------------------Man (human beings) want happiness .At the same time they do not know what is "happines".Any happiness(supposed) derived from earthly things or through indriyas is only temporaary or illusionary Vasan VIRARAGHAVAN ------------Man looks for happiness and beyond.....But gets trapped in temporary/secnond hand happiness......Man gets into an illusion.....enjoyment through the senses...and wrongly interprets it happiness... After many many years....towards old age....when it has tried all it can through the senses and the worldly objects and failed to have a lasting happiness, satisfaction, it understands that there is something wrong....there is something else to know about.......That is the turning point of inward journey.... But this can be understood and experienced under able guidance. One doesn't have to wait till the old age....Once clearly understood, it is a start of a new life.....beautiful, enjoyable in all circumstances....while doing the everything things in this world.......enjoying the senses too.....in the most appropriate manner....Understanding clears the trap....and opens the door to happiness....and beyond... Sushil Jain - Man of this computor age wants three Ws and nothing more . Even he has no time to think in other terms & requirements than the 3Ws. I observ ed some people saying uncle we are not in our sixties to think about god.According to them oldage is the correct age to think about god.They never bother about the purpose of human birth.Most people mistook the verse Jan too nam nara janma durlabham.It was not said uttamam only durlabham.As per our the saying of ramakrishna parama hamsa,the very purpose of human birth is to attain god.If we fail to attain god in this birth we have to wait long till to take another human birth Badri Narayana Miriyala--------------- Man believes in/ wants/ does what the properties he has genetically inherited make him belive, makes him want and forces him to do. Ultimately Man does not anything beyond what the God-sent implanted in him(through His creative and transformation process) enables and directs him to do. Each being is a toy manufactured and operated by a self-suffiecient Guna-filled software. Man has no independent status: a toy is the slave of the properties and gunas that makes the toy. The question is what does God wants by creating such Man or other things? God's Creation evolve and behave in the variety of ways and since He is desire-free, ego-free and attachment-free, He can have no want. He just witnesses by being everywhere and in every thing the drama that the illusive properties of desire, want, ego and attachment and etc, enact in the process of infinite existence and transformation of His Creation. It is for the same reason while one Man wants to know what Man really wants, another Man does not see any purpose of trying to know that. The first man may perhaps come to know one day the answer, the second man may also come to understand the answer without the urge to know: the chances of any Man knowing however is very low - just about zero.Basudeb Sen--------GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE -FOR QUESTIONER1. 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