Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Shree Hari Ram Ram Sadhak with question, please kindly follow-up with a feedback to bring closure to the topic of discussion. Also a reminder to all to be BRIEF, RESPECTFUL and RELEVANT. Kindly read the Group's Guidelines before each posting as a quick reminder. Only submissions that meet the guidelines will be posted henceforth. Thank you! to all sadhaks. Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram ================================ Dear Sadhak, Can you explain me regarding "Holy Spirit" and how one can attain it. One of your regular reader of holy messages Regards, varghese mathew ------------------------------- Shree Hari Ram Ram Any Gita references? Gita Talk Moderators , Ram Ram -------------------------------- NEW POSTING Hari Om'Holy' means pure, amal (faultless) , auspicious (shubh). 'Spirit' means soul, invisible, ever existing, lively and sentient . 'SELF' (Atma/soul) therefore is 'Holy Spirit' !To attain what is already holy and ever existing .. What is already 'Shubh'.. What is already attained ... No efforts are necessary. What is necessary is to get rid of 'Ashubh' (un-auspicious, faulty,evil) - BG 9:1. The connection with 'ashubh' is not 'actual' ; it is 'assumed'. Hence a mere change of assumption/ mere correct knowledge (yajjgyaatva -BG 9:1 ) shall position you in your natural state- Holy Spirit.Pranaams to all Sadhaks. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhina.Narottam Dear Varghese Mathew & Sadaks,In church one can see and hear, "To the father, Son and the holy ghost" Within the human body there is 3- Paramathuma, Jeevathuma, Sukchamam which also Hindus say. Holy spirit is said in Hindu Sastras, THAT which cannot be seen or felt by senses, THAT can be known only by knowledge. Simple you can know electricity/Magnatism by knowledge only. You canot see or feel. But as far as Holy Spirit, it can take form as and when required and be without form. The contact with Holy Spirit can be established by senses. How? When you help a blind to cross the road and the blind says namaste with love to you, you feel very contended with a blissful feelings which you canot get even with emotions or passions or by bodily pleasures. But one can see the Holy Sprit by the form one very deeply meditates, as Jesus or Krishna. Such a sight once seen by a person, that person becomes that form itself. Like Jesus on 3rd day obtained austrial body with form when HIS disciple could feel the wound to dispel his doubt. But the bodily form left or disappeared after that. That is holy Spirit. Hindus say it as THATVAMASI.B.Sathyanarayan ---------------------- Shree Hari Ram Ram If you were to take the meaning of "holy spirit" as "Pure Atma" or "Purity of Soul" the "holy spirit" is that in which exclusive devotion is awakened (Gita 9/30, 31) and for this nothing has to be done. SImply your self has to become God's. [Gita 8/14]. Do all your work in this world, however, let the attention be only on God (Bhagwaan) at all times, every moment. So be it Vineet Sarvottam DEAR VARGHESE MATHEW IN SHORT WORD hOLY SPIRIT IS EQUILENT TO WORD 'ATMAN TRULY YOURS S S BHATT ----------- ISWAR ANSH JEEV ABINASI CHETAN AMAL SAHAJ SUKHRASI sPIRIT IS ALWAYS HOLY BUT WHEN IT GOES TO JEEV BHAAVA IT GETS MALIN (flawed, tainted) SO TO ATTAIN HOLY, FOLLOW LORD SHIVJI SANKAR SAHAJ SAROOP SAMHARA LAAGI SAMAADHI AKHAND APAARAA THANX RAJA Gurdasani -------- THAT Which is spirit,which is Silence As well as the tumult of Life In it's joy of Being; Alights as Grace As the Awareness of that ' I- am ' I---I---I----I----am----I---iam----I---I----I---- The I, which in its non-being Is the Self, the self of all Beings. Oh, you ask ! How to attain That ? Seek within, if you want to know. Sit down in a quiet spot. And, watch your thoughts. Watch yourself watching ; And, becoming the watcher, the seer, The witness of all. By stopping your chatter And becoming silent, just becoming silent ! If you want To attain the ever attained , That which cannot be attained Which is Grace, a Gift from the Spirit that Is Just Grace !!!! AUM narinder bhandari =========================================== GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE - FOR QUESTIONER1. The questions as far as possible must be relevant to Gita, relevant toDharma, relavant to other scriptures and relevant to motivate Sadhaks to take upspiritual path2. The Questioner must commit to daily Gita study3. Only one question at a time.4. Question must be brief, to the point and relevant to the group's primary aimof deeper understanding of Gita.GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES for RESPONDER: PLEASE -1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted.2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible.3. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the extent that theyfurther help in understanding the Gita shlokas4. Be as concise, to the point, respecting sadhaka's time.5. Focus on subject at hand only.6. 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