How to keep this body healthy so that I can remain focused on God?

December 29, 2009

Shree Hari Ram Ram

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Of recent, my attention has been consumed with this body with aches and pains,

BP and other health issues. How can I draw my attention back to God? How can

I keep this body healthy enough so that my attention is not drawn to that which

is going to go away, as we all know this. Please guide me !

Any references in Gitaji on keeping body healthy for a sadhak's spiritual

growth? (GT Moderators addition)

Bala

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NEW POSTING

Shree Hari

Ram Ram

The moment you become entirely dependent on Ishvar (God), at that moment nor

will any diseases or states cause you sorrow, and nor will there be the

sentiments to keep this body that is leaving every single moment, that somehow I

must keep it free of all disease. If by doing somthing this body could have

been kept disease free then the doctors themselves would never have any

diseases. When Ishvar (God) Himself is digesting your food (Gita 15/14); oh

what to speak of food, He provides guarantee for this life, (Gita 9/22), then

too you are worrying? This is not good! This does not mean that you do not try

to get the necessary help/treatment for your disease. This means that that

which happens (cure etc.) will all be due to His divine will. This is from

experience. You too experience and see for yourself. So be it, Vineet

Sarvottam

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Hari Om

Please read today's Sadhak Message. You don't need body to remain focussed on

God. The one who lives in the body needs to focus on God. There is no point in

worrying about the body, but you should do your duty towards the body. You have

fear of death. Note here that this fear is not supported by truth. Read BG

Chapter 2 - first 45/50 verses. You are immortal. Body is mortal. Where is the

scope now for fear? Do you get fearful when the Sun sets? No! Why? Because you

know it certainly shall set. Similarly the body shall certainly die, You shall

certainly not die... Then where arises the Q of fear or anxiety? Sure, do your

best, take care of body, respect your body...but don't get attached to it. It is

not yours. Stop assuming it to be yours and still take care of it.

The above was regarding the body. Now come to you your 'self '. You are

immortal. Because you have assumed body to be " me " and " mine " , you are worried.

Change your acceptance level. Henceforth consider God to be " mine " , and " me " to

be of God. (Instead of body to be " me " / " mine " ). That is all you need to do. If

you do this much, and even if die immediately thereafter...you have fulfilled

the object of human life. But be firm. If body is not yours- it is not yours-

Come what may. If God is yours- He is yours- wherever/however you are !

Believe fearlessly..firmly - MERE TO GIRDHAR GOPAL, DOOSARO NA KOI.

How old are you, Sir?

Pranaams to all sadhaks.

Sarve Bhavantu Sukhina

Narottam

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Dear Sadhakas,

Hare Krishna.

This is in response to a question from a Sadhaka.

There is mention in Bhagavad Gita regarding healthy foods.

Lord Krishna says in Gitaji,

" Ayuh sattva balarogya,

Sukha priti vivardhanah,

Rasyah snigdhah hrdya,

Aharah sattvika priyah. "

(Gitaji, 17,8)

Which means ,

'Foods dear to those in mode of goodness, increase the duration of life, give

strength, purify our existence, give us health, satisfaction and pleasure. Such

foods are juicy, wholesome and pleasing to the heart. '

Milk, milk products,wheat,fruits and vegetables are some of the examples of

Sattvika foods.

' Patram pushpam phalam toyam' (Gitaji,9,26) which means,

'If one offers Me with devotion and love, a leaf, flower, fruit or water, I will

accept it'. That is what Lord Krishna says in Gitaji. Fruits and vegetables are

Lord's favourites.

Also what is very important, is to eat in moderation. This is also mentioned in

Bhagavad Gita.

" Yuktahara viharasya

Yukta cestasya karmasu,

Yukta svapnavabhodhasya,

Yogo bhavati dukha ha. "

( Gitaji, 6,17).

Which means,

'One who is regulated in his habits of eating,sleeping ,recreation can mitigate

material pains by practicing the yoga system. '

Let us eat the foods, offered to the Lord,( the sanctified foods) and advance

spiritually.

Thank You.

Hare Krishna.

Prasad.A.Iragavarapu, M.D

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Dear Sadaks,

1) In Geetha- Mitha Aahar (Moderate food) said. This is also said, what type of

food to consume and it`s effects regards to Gunaas. It is also said that any

food kept aside for more than 4 hours not to be taken. 2) In Ayurvedic it is

said, half stomach food and quarter stomach water and quarter stomach empty. 3)

My opinion- Sri Bala has been consuming much masala foods earlier, and stomach

full. The blood stream got salt addicted and B P developes. The complete body

has to be detoxified. There are prooven methods where Sri Bala case can be

completely cured. In fact I cured my wife of B P and Sugar that is herditory in

her family. Her youger sisters and brothers died of Sugar. The system of curing

any diseases are in 18 Siddhars (Eminent Sants of Bagavan Shiva) scripts. In

small stories attached to our puras reveal that Cancer was cured.

Balaji can contact me through this group, and he can have a good success rate in

his cure. For a sadak if Only body is sound, he can concentrate on meditation

and Poojas.

B.Sathyanarayan

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dear sadhaks, first to Balajee's query .............. devoting 30 minutes to an

hour to Pranayama, can be a great Blessing .................. begin with this

....... go on to simple Asanas for the Body ............ asanas you are able to

perform with ease ...... Swami Ramdev jee's live appearances on TV channels can

help ............. or you could purchase a CD.Do also imbibe shri Bhatt's

suggestions below regarding drinking of water in daily living . Air and water,

both free are great medicines ..............................now , if you permit

...................... to something deeper .................We have a beautifully

divine culture that teaches us the art of living ................. unfortunately

, the young of today value it not ....... they have no time ..................

but narinder tells you from experience ....................... begin looking

after your health ( correct foods , exercise, pranayama, yoga etc ) now

onwards, from whatever point you are now at .............. the younger in age ,

the better .............. your thoughts and day-to-day life are also a part of

your health ..................youth is a time , when everything negative that

one may indulge in , gets absorbed ............ one does not even notice it

...................... but .................. the effects of the neglect show up

after you cross the middle age ..................... When one is young, one

does NOT listen to the sayings of the wise elderly ( this is today's bane)

..................... but look around and see the elderly of today known to you(

those, who paid no heed to correct values , when young..... ) and what they have

to go through .................. This message is specially for the young

.................... pay heed to the Wisdom of the elders ............. and reap

the benefits , when age catches up with you ......AUM

narinder bhandari

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The use of brass, copper vessels, turmeric (arisina, Haldi),

neem sticks etc., have also been subjected to tests.

BEETA AMELOID, a protein causing the incurable ALZEMEIR

disease could be controlled by the use of turmeric -

Arisina (Haldi) – see THE HINDU DATED April 20,2005.Neem leaves and sticks are

being used from times

immemorial in our Yugadi festival and we take a little

neem with jaggery on that day. Shankerprasad Bhatt

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the advice on water therapy given by sadhak is worth practising because water is

the elixir of life.

thankyou

Badri Narayana Miriyala

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-Shree Hari-

Namaste!

Dear Bala,

OK you will get a lot of advice w.r.t. Bhagavad Gita, a couple of good

Shlokas are:

6 : 16 Yoga is not successful for him who eats too much, nor for one who

does not eat at all; nor for him who sleeps to much, nor too little.

6 : 17 Yoga which brings out the cessation of the travails of the world

is accomplished only by him, who is moderate in diet and recreation,

temperate in action and regulated in sleep, and wakefulness.

I ask you Bala, how up to date is that? It could be your G.P. giving

those instructions.

Do your research for variations of diet that is best for you, the web is

at your finger tips!

Now I will tell you this, it is not just such things that will re focus

you back to 'The Divine Beloved'.

I went through a very dark time, and was fortunate enough to sit before

the feet of one of the great spiritual giants in the world!

The turning point came, when he was guiding meditation, he said, " In

this country we have very good conditions........but Africa, poor

conditions, much suffering, meditate on the suffering,..... " . And for

the first time in quite a while, I turned my attention to the suffering

of others and not to my suffering!

That afternoon a seed was planted in my heart, and Dear Lord it has

never stopped growing!

Bala now that you are ready, the Master will come, do all you can to

find a group that does not want your money, only want help you. It may

simply be this Divine Forum, and the Master maybe Swamiji, I do not

know, but I believe in your heart you know!

Om...Shant...

Mike. (K)

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First, attend to your body... take medicin....visit the doctor....do some

excercise, eat wisely...stop the complaints......be happy all the time....

If you are sure you have taken these steps.....then start the spiritual healing

process...

It is all about diverting/fooling you mind / MAN.....Tell your mind/Man..

1. Your body is ok. Your body is going to be fine.

2. Mind has to help in healing the part/parts having problems.

3. Mind has the power to repair, regenerate any part of the body...

4. Mind must repair or regenerate.....

5. Thank you mind....

Do it with patience and sincerity. Have faith. See what happens in a few days...

once that starts working....start thanking God for everything...all the

time.....

Start helping others.....God is with you....

Sushil Jain

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Ram Ram

In the past I used to drink room temperature water, more or less in the same way

as Sri Shankerprasad ji had said. Recently I have modified it a little, I drink

warm water (in the same way) and I have got amazing result.

Ashok Goenka

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Correct timing to take water, will maximize its effectiveness to Human body.

Two (02) glass of water - After waking up - Helps activate internal organs

One (01) glasses of water - 30 minutes before meal - Help digestion

One (01) glass of water - Before taking a bath - Helps lower blood pressure

(01) glass of water - Before sleep - To avoid stroke or heart attack.

This is very important for our health Truly yours

Shankerprasad S Bhatt

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January 5, 2010

Of recent, my attention has been consumed with this body with aches and pains, BP and other health issues. How can I draw my attention back to God? How canI keep this body healthy enough so that my attention is not drawn to that whichis going to go away, as we all know this. Please guide me !Any references in Gitaji on keeping body healthy for a sadhak's spiritualgrowth? (GT Moderators addition)Bala----------------------

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I thank you all - each and every one of you immensely for your forthright advice / suggestions / insights. Sarvottamji, Narottamji, Mikeji, Sathyanarayanaji, Meeraji, Prasadji, Sushilji, Narinderji, Ashokji, Shankerprasad Bhattji, Chunibhaiji, and Badri Narayanaji and any one that I may have missed.

In every message there was truth, SO SO VERY TRUE. Years of abuse of this body and mind. Oh ! I AM DEEPLY TOUCHED by the responses. I am committed to change and have made note of many points in a daily journal to follow through. Just to name a few - Daily Gita reading, asanas and pranayama, meditation, meditating on those suffering much more, whole-hearted acceptance of being Giridhar Gopal's and Gita 9/22, detachment, forgiveness, gratitude, being free of resentment, fruits and vegetable diet, moderation, sanctified food, only half stomach with food (sattvik), proper utensils, turmeric and neem, warm water therapy, developing a healing mind, patience, faith, sincerity and much much more... Once again, I am utterly grateful. I can already feel a difference.

Om Shanti, Bala

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Shree Hari

Ram Ram

Swamiji has said that - Becoming free of worldly desires (detachment, vairaagya) is the highest austerity and essential for a spiritual aspirant.

This desire that is consuming you, of wanting to keep the body healthy is a form of attachment "me and mine-ness" with the body. It is only out of attachment that we harm this body.

A patient plans to avoid unhealthy diet, and intends to take a wholesome meal, but out of attachment, eats things that worsen his disease.

One of the events causing one to become free from worldly desires (detached) is fear, which is what it seems you are experiencing.

This fear of various inflictions and sufferings in the body and of early aging from various bodydisease and weakening; begins to move one away from association of sense enjoyments. In other words, when the mind is moved away from unwholesome sense enjoyments one becomes a "vairaagi" (detached), and achieves the highest austerity that is essential for a spiritual aspirant - says Swamiji.

Can you now see His grace? His divine play? in making you detached and achieve the highest austerity!

Balaji, after all this body is His... Serve It by taking care of it, while remaining detached, as ultimately it is His Will, you do not have any "adhikaar" (rights) over it. Nothing is yours, except God. This is the Truth. Accept this right now and see for yourself.

Meera Das, Ram Ram

- Dear Bala

When body is showing signs of disease ,that means the mind is at dis-ease.You are carrying thoughts which are not in harmony with heart and soul.

It is good that you want to come out of that.The suggested actions are:-

1) Start reading Gita at earliest.Gita will show you the path.Commit strongly to read Gita

every day in morning and in night. I suggest you also read Yatharth Geeta by Swami Adgadanand Ji.

2)Consult Nutrition expert and follow food suggested food by him.Increase intake of fruits,dry fruits,sprouts,vegetables,nuts.Avoid processed and packaged food,carbonated drinks.Have food on time.

3)Practice forgiveness and gratitude.Say to yourself every night-I am willing to forgive now completely and un-conditionally.Express gratitude for what you have.Practicing forgiveness and gratitude should take care of resentment ,which you might have been carrying for so long causing BP and body ache and pain.

4) We have to take care of our emotions to take care of our body.Our emotions create the body.Unhealthy emotions will not result in healthy body.

5)You need to take care of sleep.Go to bed by 10-10.30 in night.Chant OM till you sleep.If the emotions are not good ,good sleep is not possible.

6)You can do breathing meditations for 10-15 minutes every day.

Briefly, your present state of being is reminder to turn clock back by paying attention to your food,emotions and sleep.

And start reading Gita ,may be from today itself.

regards

Ashok Jain

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It can only be done by creating concentration on almighty God and it can be done by following steps naratted in Chapter VI of Bhagvat Gita Speck affirmations pertain to God and he will be with you

This is my short reply or my under standing.

Truly yours

Shankerprasad S Bhatt

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According to me, it is beyond doubt that Sri Ramdev yoga is most successful. i am not writing by just reading it or hearing it from others. i have regained my most dilapidated health through yoga-pranayama of shri Ramdeva through regulrity and consistency. anyone can do it and why not u? mahendra chunibhai

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Shree HariRam RamThe moment you become entirely dependent on Ishvar (God), at that moment norwill any diseases or states cause you sorrow, and nor will there be thesentiments to keep this body that is leaving every single moment, that somehow Imust keep it free of all disease. If by doing somthing this body could havebeen kept disease free then the doctors themselves would never have anydiseases. When Ishvar (God) Himself is digesting your food (Gita 15/14); ohwhat to speak of food, He provides guarantee for this life, (Gita 9/22), thentoo you are worrying? This is not good! This does not mean that you do not tryto get the necessary help/treatment for your disease. This means that thatwhich happens (cure etc.) will all be due to His divine will. This is fromexperience. You too experience and see for yourself. So be it, VineetSarvottam------------Hari OmPlease read today's Sadhak Message. You don't need body to remain focussed onGod. The one who lives in the body needs to focus on God. There is no point inworrying about the body, but you should do your duty towards the body. You havefear of death. Note here that this fear is not supported by truth. Read BGChapter 2 - first 45/50 verses. You are immortal. Body is mortal. Where is thescope now for fear? Do you get fearful when the Sun sets? No! Why? Because youknow it certainly shall set. Similarly the body shall certainly die, You shallcertainly not die... Then where arises the Q of fear or anxiety? Sure, do yourbest, take care of body, respect your body...but don't get attached to it. It isnot yours. Stop assuming it to be yours and still take care of it.The above was regarding the body. Now come to you your 'self '. You areimmortal. Because you have assumed body to be "me" and "mine" , you are worried.Change your acceptance level. Henceforth consider God to be "mine", and "me" tobe of God. (Instead of body to be "me"/"mine"). That is all you need to do. Ifyou do this much, and even if die immediately thereafter...you have fulfilledthe object of human life. But be firm. If body is not yours- it is not yours-Come what may. If God is yours- He is yours- wherever/however you are !Believe fearlessly..firmly - MERE TO GIRDHAR GOPAL, DOOSARO NA KOI.How old are you, Sir?Pranaams to all sadhaks.Sarve Bhavantu SukhinaNarottam--------------Dear Sadhakas,Hare Krishna.This is in response to a question from a Sadhaka.There is mention in Bhagavad Gita regarding healthy foods.Lord Krishna says in Gitaji,"Ayuh sattva balarogya,Sukha priti vivardhanah,Rasyah snigdhah hrdya,Aharah sattvika priyah. "(Gitaji, 17,8)Which means ,'Foods dear to those in mode of goodness, increase the duration of life, givestrength, purify our existence, give us health, satisfaction and pleasure. Suchfoods are juicy, wholesome and pleasing to the heart. 'Milk, milk products,wheat,fruits and vegetables are some of the examples ofSattvika foods.' Patram pushpam phalam toyam' (Gitaji,9,26) which means,'If one offers Me with devotion and love, a leaf, flower, fruit or water, I willaccept it'. That is what Lord Krishna says in Gitaji. Fruits and vegetables areLord's favourites.Also what is very important, is to eat in moderation. This is also mentioned inBhagavad Gita."Yuktahara viharasyaYukta cestasya karmasu,Yukta svapnavabhodhasya,Yogo bhavati dukha ha. "( Gitaji, 6,17).Which means,'One who is regulated in his habits of eating,sleeping ,recreation can mitigatematerial pains by practicing the yoga system. 'Let us eat the foods, offered to the Lord,( the sanctified foods) and advancespiritually.Thank You.Hare Krishna.Prasad.A.Iragavarapu, M.D-------------Dear Sadaks,1) In Geetha- Mitha Aahar (Moderate food) said. This is also said, what type offood to consume and it`s effects regards to Gunaas. It is also said that anyfood kept aside for more than 4 hours not to be taken. 2) In Ayurvedic it issaid, half stomach food and quarter stomach water and quarter stomach empty. 3)My opinion- Sri Bala has been consuming much masala foods earlier, and stomachfull. The blood stream got salt addicted and B P developes. The complete bodyhas to be detoxified. There are prooven methods where Sri Bala case can becompletely cured. In fact I cured my wife of B P and Sugar that is herditory inher family. Her youger sisters and brothers died of Sugar. The system of curingany diseases are in 18 Siddhars (Eminent Sants of Bagavan Shiva) scripts. Insmall stories attached to our puras reveal that Cancer was cured.Balaji can contact me through this group, and he can have a good success rate inhis cure. For a sadak if Only body is sound, he can concentrate on meditationand Poojas.B.Sathyanarayan------------dear sadhaks, first to Balajee's query .............. devoting 30 minutes to anhour to Pranayama, can be a great Blessing .................. begin with this...... go on to simple Asanas for the Body ............ asanas you are able toperform with ease ...... Swami Ramdev jee's live appearances on TV channels canhelp ............. or you could purchase a CD.Do also imbibe shri Bhatt'ssuggestions below regarding drinking of water in daily living . Air and water,both free are great medicines ..............................now , if you permit..................... to something deeper .................We have a beautifullydivine culture that teaches us the art of living ................. unfortunately, the young of today value it not ....... they have no time ..................but narinder tells you from experience ....................... begin lookingafter your health ( correct foods , exercise, pranayama, yoga etc ) nowonwards, from whatever point you are now at .............. the younger in age ,the better .............. your thoughts and day-to-day life are also a part ofyour health ..................youth is a time , when everything negative thatone may indulge in , gets absorbed ............ one does not even notice it..................... but .................. the effects of the neglect show upafter you cross the middle age ..................... When one is young, onedoes NOT listen to the sayings of the wise elderly ( this is today's bane).................... but look around and see the elderly of today known to you(those, who paid no heed to correct values , when young..... ) and what they haveto go through .................. This message is specially for the young................... pay heed to the Wisdom of the elders ............. and reapthe benefits , when age catches up with you ......AUMnarinder bhandari------------------------The use of brass, copper vessels, turmeric (arisina, Haldi),neem sticks etc., have also been subjected to tests.BEETA AMELOID, a protein causing the incurable ALZEMEIRdisease could be controlled by the use of turmeric -Arisina (Haldi) – see THE HINDU DATED April 20,2005.Neem leaves and sticks arebeing used from timesimmemorial in our Yugadi festival and we take a littleneem with jaggery on that day. Shankerprasad Bhatt-----------------the advice on water therapy given by sadhak is worth practising because water isthe elixir of life.thankyouBadri Narayana Miriyala-----------Shree Hari-Namaste!Dear Bala,OK you will get a lot of advice w.r.t. Bhagavad Gita, a couple of goodShlokas are:6 : 16 Yoga is not successful for him who eats too much, nor for one whodoes not eat at all; nor for him who sleeps to much, nor too little.6 : 17 Yoga which brings out the cessation of the travails of the worldis accomplished only by him, who is moderate in diet and recreation,temperate in action and regulated in sleep, and wakefulness.I ask you Bala, how up to date is that? It could be your G.P. givingthose instructions.Do your research for variations of diet that is best for you, the web isat your finger tips!Now I will tell you this, it is not just such things that will re focusyou back to 'The Divine Beloved'.I went through a very dark time, and was fortunate enough to sit beforethe feet of one of the great spiritual giants in the world!The turning point came, when he was guiding meditation, he said,"Inthis country we have very good conditions........but Africa, poorconditions, much suffering, meditate on the suffering,.....". And forthe first time in quite a while, I turned my attention to the sufferingof others and not to my suffering!That afternoon a seed was planted in my heart, and Dear Lord it hasnever stopped growing!Bala now that you are ready, the Master will come, do all you can tofind a group that does not want your money, only want help you. It maysimply be this Divine Forum, and the Master maybe Swamiji, I do notknow, but I believe in your heart you know!Om...Shant...Mike. (K)----First, attend to your body... take medicin....visit the doctor....do someexcercise, eat wisely...stop the complaints......be happy all the time....If you are sure you have taken these steps.....then start the spiritual healingprocess...It is all about diverting/fooling you mind / MAN.....Tell your mind/Man..1. Your body is ok. Your body is going to be fine.2. Mind has to help in healing the part/parts having problems.3. Mind has the power to repair, regenerate any part of the body...4. Mind must repair or regenerate.....5. Thank you mind....Do it with patience and sincerity. Have faith. See what happens in a few days...once that starts working....start thanking God for everything...all thetime.....Start helping others.....God is with you....Sushil Jain--------------------Ram RamIn the past I used to drink room temperature water, more or less in the same wayas Sri Shankerprasad ji had said. Recently I have modified it a little, I drinkwarm water (in the same way) and I have got amazing result.Ashok Goenka--------------------Correct timing to take water, will maximize its effectiveness to Human body.Two (02) glass of water - After waking up - Helps activate internal organsOne (01) glasses of water - 30 minutes before meal - Help digestionOne (01) glass of water - Before taking a bath - Helps lower blood pressure(01) glass of water - Before sleep - To avoid stroke or heart attack.This is very important for our health Truly yoursShankerprasad S Bhatt---------===========================================GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE - FOR QUESTIONER1. The questions as far as possible must be relevant to Gita, relevant toDharma, relavant to other scriptures and relevant to motivate Sadhaks to take upspiritual path2. The Questioner must commit to feedback at end of dicussion to bring closure and commit to daily Gita study3. Only one question at a time.4. Question must be brief, to the point and relevant to the group's primary aimof deeper understanding of Gita.GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES for RESPONDER: PLEASE -1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted.2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible.3. RESPECT all Sadhaks. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to theextent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas4. Be BRIEF, RELEVANT (stay with the subject being discussed only)5. Do not include links to the other sites; personal information (Ph #, addressetc) or personalize message to particular person6. All responses may not be posted.7. Please keep in mind novices, youth, westerners, non-sectarian audience. Limitthe use to Sanskrit words and provide English word bracketed.GITA TALK MODERATORSRam Ram------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Post message: Subscribe: - Unsubscribe: -

January 11, 2010

Of recent, my attention has been consumed with this body with aches and pains, BP and other health issues. How can I draw my attention back to God? How canI keep this body healthy enough so that my attention is not drawn to that whichis going to go away, as we all know this. Please guide me !Any references in Gitaji on keeping body healthy for a sadhak's spiritualgrowth? (GT Moderators addition)Bala----------------------

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Swamiji quoted - "Unt mein tuhi tajenge paamar". In the end all will leave, only Paramatma will remain.

This body is not for me, this body is not mine and this body is not "me". The greatness of this body is its vivek (discriminative power).

Accept this now and REJOICE and take care of what has been given to you to keep for a short time, knowing full well that you will have to return it back to the owner "prakriti" someday. Just like checking into a hotel during vacation... use the facilities there, treat all the things properly, but when you check out, leave the room without any attachment, being FREE of all worries and responsibilities. meera das, ram ram

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-Shree Hari-Slow breathing meditation, very good indeed, if kept under control! Per my experience, if done alone, without the support of a loved one who has good spiritual grounding, or a genuine guide, can send a person insane,others can cause energy meridians/ nadis to become out of balance, the nervous system can become damaged etc.

May Gods peace be upon us all!Om... Shanti...Mike.

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Hi,Aches and pain indicate that you are storing anger .BP indicate that you are taking lot of pressure which you are unable to handle. Disease always stars from the mind , what kind of thinking you are having , is it positive or negative even in trouble time. spiritual growth will come on its on if one works on it. One does not achieve it by doing rituals, like going to temple, giving alms, helping others etc. One achieves when one works on oneself . This means one should be aware of what one does the whole day, what is he thinking , how much aware a person is about his thought, is he aware what he is talking to others etc. Spiritual growth will come on its own when a person is aware about himself.S. R Amin

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Shree Hari Ram Ram

You may want to read Sadhan, Sudhaa Sindhu in HINDI - pg 771-775 if there is tendency to become angry or there is agitation in the mind. It is available online at:

http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.org/swamijibooks/pustak/pustak1/html/sadhansudhasindhu/main.html

Here is summary of lecture given by Swamiji on , (25th September, 2004) at 5.20 a.m.

THE DESIRE TO KEEP THE BODY ALWAYS HEALTHY CAN NEVER BE FULFILLED

The world and your body look close to you, but they are not close, only God is close to you. We have given importance to the body and to the world. They will not stay forever. Each one of us will have to leave our bodies and go. The world also keeps changing and does not stay on forever. Only God is permanent and unchanging. The Self witnesses the changes in our body -from childhood to youth, from adult to old age. It also witnesses all the insults, praise, injury etc. that the body experiences. God is the only one who is ours. God and the Self are the same. The body will never stay with us. The body which seems the closest to you is the most far. Something that always changes and something that never changes can never be together.This does not mean that we should not look after the body if it is unwell, or not give it food. The fact is that the body will not stay with you. The world and body are one - they are perishable. The desire of keeping the body healthy and always retaining it, can never be fulfilled. The attachment to the body is not easy to leave. Even if you do not understand, you should accept it. Just hold on to them and accept them. It is a fact and the truth. Thus rejoice and be happy.

From Discourse by Swamij Ramsukhdasji on (25th September, 2004) at 5.20 a.m. Ram RamGita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

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Shree Hari Ram Ram

Swamiji has repeated this over and over again. This body will leave you at some point in time. It will let you down some day, if you continue wanting to have it be according to your likes/wishes/desires. Serve it by taking care of it, but do not depend on it. Therefore whether this body remains healthy or not, whether we live or we die, be determined to remain firm on the one and only aim - I WANT TO ATTAIN SALVATION. In verse (Gita 9:30) it is said "samyagvyavasitohi saha" means that "Now I want to only walk this path" whereby one makes this firm commitment and determination - no matter how poor the health of the body. If the inner sentiments become determinate that - "I am only a seeker of Divinity and Truth" then focus / rememberance of God will happen on its own. i.e. poor health will not take away the focus from God. This has been time and again observed in many saints of the world, who were immersed in God inspite of very poor health or conditions.

Meera Das, Ram Ram

-----Shree Hari-

Dear Bala, I think at the outset you have comprehended the value of this Divine Forum, see the attached reflections of Swamiji:There is no bigger benefit than Satsanga. But it is difficult to get real satsanga. Instead of doing bhajan in isolation, reading books explaining real element is better. Real Satsanga is either liking only God or association with Realised souls. Satsanga gives immediate benefits. I can not explain glory of satsanga . Just as: When child has grown, one does not know similarly by sitting in satsanga what benefits one can get, cannot be known.A few words of wisdom, 'Pranayama', seems very similar to 'Chi Kung's Pi Chi/Nei Tan', something I have knowledge of, and my thoughts are reflected by a comment in 'Wikipedia', regarding 'Pranayama'. 'Cautions: Many yoga teachers recommend that pranayama techniques be practiced with care, and that advanced pranayama techniques should be practiced under the guidance of a teacher. These cautions are also made in traditional Hindu literature.' Easy does it! Be very kind to your body and mind! If you make a radical change to your diet, maybe a good idea to have a blood check after a while, specially regarding B12 levels. You may need direct support for some of your endeavors, maybe a self help group or some such organization.

There is a magic awaiting you down the road, that is, you will be able to transmute your own miseries into pure gold of 'Divine Love'! All is good Balaji!Om...Shanti...Mike. (K)

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