Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 3-42 & 43 indriyani paraanyaahur, indriyebhyah param manah | manasastu paraa buddhiryo buddheh paratastu sah || (Gita 3-42) Evam buddheh param buddhvaa samstabhyaatmaanamaatmana | Jahi satrum mahaabaaho kaamaroopam duraasadam || (Gita 3-43) "It is said that the senses are superior to the gross body, greater (higher, more powerful, illuminating, pervasive and subtler) than the senses is the mind; greater than the mind is the intellect, but greater than the intellect is desire. Thus, knowing that desire is beyond intellect, subduing the self by one's self, destroy this, O mighty-armed Arjuna, the tough enemy in the form of desire, which is hard to conquer." Comment: Earth, Water, Fire, Wind, Space, mind, intellect and ego - these eight constitute the Apara Prikriti (lower nature, Gita: 7-4). `Kama' resides in the inert portion of the ego, beyond the intellect. It means that the desire resides in the lower nature only and not in the Para Prakriti (Higher Nature). Due to imposition of ego on the consciousness, the Jivatma (embodied soul) believes it to be its own. As long as there is union of Jada & Chetan (inert matter & the consciousness), until then the knowledge of Jada & Chetana as separate entities is not realized. As long as the imposition remains, there is Kama (desires). When the imposition of Jada on Chetan is removed then the Kama gets converted into love for God. With the presence of Kama, the attraction is towards the world while love takes the devotee towards God. Iti srimad bhagavadgitasupanisatsu brahavidyayam yogasastre sri krisnarjuna samvade Karma Yoga nama Tritiyo `ddhyayah || In the Upnishad of the Bhagavad Gita, the Knowledge of Brahman, the Supreme, the Science of Yoga and the dialogue between Sri Krishna and Arjuna, this is the third discourse designated: `THE YOGA OF ACTION'. From "Gita Prabodhani" in Hindi by Swami Ramsukhdasji -------- Chapter 3, Verse 42 is as follows; IndriyaaNi = the Sensory organs (like eyes, ears, nose, tongue and skin) ParaaNi = that is beyond / more subtle (than the gross physical body) AahuH = (they / the Sages) say IndriyebhyaH = than the Sensory organs Param = that is beyond / more subtle ManaH = the Mind ManasaH = than the Mind Tu = but Paraa = that is beyond / more subtle BuddhiH = the Intellect YaH = who BuddheH = than the Intellect ParataH = greater / the farthest to conceive / beyond the cognition by standard means Tu = but SaH = He / the Self / the Aatman English translation: They say that the Sensory organs are subtler and nobler than the gross and finite physical body, the Mind is nobler than the Sensory organs, the Intellect is nobler than the Mind; finally what is the most noble even compared to the Intellect is He, the Aatman, the Self, which is a subset of the superset the Brahman. Comment: Lord Krishna defines the pyramidal structure of the hierarchy of the levels of consciousness in this penultimate verse in the Chapter 3 of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta. This is one of my favourite verses, which in my personal opinion is at the foundation of the Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta: the monumental scripture for the entire humanity that transcends all the boundaries of caste, creed, religion, race, nationality, even space and time! A married couple and their child walk past a department store. Being an electronics engineer, the man remembers only the newly launched Apple iPad Tablet PC; while his wife being an artist remembers only new fashionable dresses and the child sees nothing else but new toys! On a case to case basis; the Intellect provided the range and scale of values; the Mind, acting on them directed the Senses to "work on" the physical reality in front of each member of the family. The intellect is the Governor of the kingdom of every human being. As the moon of the Earth shines with the borrowed light from the Sun in our planetary system, so does the Intellect shines with the borrowed light from the Self. Please refer verse 16 in Chapter 5, verse 33 in Chapter 13 and verse 12 in Chapter 15 of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta as reiterations of this concept from Lord Krishna. Anything that is subtle is always superior to any other gross thing. The five sensory organs excel the gross physical body. The Mind dominates over the sensory organs and therefore it is superior to them. The Intellect rationalizes the thought processes behind the various feelings and emotions of the Mind and therefore it is superior to the Mind. The Aatman supplies the invisible and divine light to the Intellect and therefore it is superior even to the Intellect. The subtle has greater power over the gross which cannot limit the former, even as the prison-walls cannot limit one's thoughts. The Senses, the Mind and the Intellect are like the brick, mortar and plaster of a house in which the master i.e. the Self resides. They have no freedom to act single handedly and the trio depend on one another and ultimately on the Self or the Pure Consciousness. There exists an inconclusive debate amongst the Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta lovers and scholars about the exact meaning of the Sanskrit word `SaH'. As I understand, some eminent scholars like Ramanujaachaarya and Maayaananda Chaitanya call it `Ahamkaara' i.e. the Ego; some scholars like Aachaarya V. P. Limaye from Pune in India call it `KaamaH' i.e. the Desire; while a majority of scholars like Aadya Shankaraachaarya, Shreedhar Swami, Madhusudana Saraswati, Lokamanya Tilak, Mahatmaa Gandhi, Santa Tukaaraama and Santa Raamadaasa call it the Aatman. Interestingly, Santa Dnyaaneshwara has not been so explicit on this issue in the `Dnyaaneshwaree"; in his characteristic humility, all that he has stated is, "MhaNonee Te Agaadha" i.e. That is beyond my cognition. Without any intention of inflaming any further acrimonious debate, let us analyse the following tabular construct as ardent students of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta; As per Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta verses 2/42 and 2/43 As per KathopaniShada Verse 1 / 3 / 10 - 11 As per KathopaniShada Verse 2 / 3 (6) / 7 - 8 Remarks / Observations ShareeraH ShareeraH ShareeraH Gross Physical Body IndriyaH IndriyaH IndriyaH A physical Organ like an eye. --- ArthaH --- Cause , motive, reason, object of the Sensory organ ManaH ManaH ManaH The Mind BuddhiH BuddhiH SattvaH BuddhiH = Intellect SattvaH = Pure Goodness --- Mahaan Aatmaa / Ahamkaara Mahaan Aatmaa / Ahamkaara Mahaan Aatmaa = the Great Soul Ahamkaara = the Ego --- Avyakta / Moola Prakruti Avyakta / Moola Prakruti Avyakta = unmanifest Moola = the root Prakruti = the Mother Nature SaH PuruShaH VyaapakaH PuruShaH SaH = He PuruShaH = the Brahman VyaapakaH = pervaded everywhere Please note that the teachings of Lord Krishna in the Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta are termed as `Saara' i.e. briefings in the form of concentrate just like milk of the cows i.e. the Vedas and the UpaniShadas. Therefore, in my personal opinion, for the sake of brevity, Lord Krishna might have skipped the in between two levels of consciousness namely the `Ahamkaara' and the `Moola Prakruti' in this verse. In the Marathi language, "Divyatvaachee Jethe Pracheetee, Tethe Kara Maajhe JuLatee" i.e. wherever there is experience of the Divinity, I bow and fold my hands with deep gratitude and reverence. Consciousness must be raised step by step in a gradual manner by every Saadhaka and Upaasaka. The higher we rise the freer we become. We are at the lowest level of freedom when we act under the sway of the sensory organs. We gain additional freedom when the Mind is united with the Intellect. Whenever the Intellect is suffused by the light from the inner embodied Self, we attain the pinnacle of freedom. Please refer verse 28 in Chapter 5 of Shreemad Bhagawad Geeta as the reinforcement of this concept. He the embodied Self, who is inner to every living and non-living object and instrument of perception up to the Intellect, whom craving by resorting to the instruments namely the senses, the mind and the intellect deludes by obscuring knowledge – He is subtler and nobler than even the Intellect. He, the Supreme Self is the true beholder of the Intellect. The Self, the Aatman is beyond the five basic elements which are called as `Pancha Mahaabhootas'. Just like the Space, the Aatman does not deviate from its original state. The Self, the Aatman cannot be perceived by the standard five sensory organs and therefore it is treated to be `unthinkable' as well as `immutable'. One cannot visualise, smell, hear, taste or touch a fully grown up tree in a mango seed and yet one understands by empirical evidence that such a mango seed is the starting point of every blossoming mango tree in the future. In the similar manner, the human Mind and Intellect cannot ruminate over and comprehend the Infinite Space as well as the Aatman. The Aatman is that enlivening principle, which energises the human Mind and Intellect, which by themselves are insentient. Therefore, it is but obvious that the Mind and Intellect cannot make the Self as an object of their comprehension. In the final analysis, the Senses of seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting and touching lure you to indulge in many sense objects as long as you identify with your physical body. The moment you shift your attention and identify with your Mind, you begin to indulge in emotions. You will certainly notice that emotional satisfactions are superior to gross physical pleasures. Later on you shift your attention to the driving force behind the Mind; you derive intellectual and higher satisfaction in rationalizing your thoughts and actions. When you grow beyond all these satisfactions to the more subtle joys, you attune to the Self residing within, you transcend the entire spectrum of desires pertaining to the physical, emotional and intellectual satisfactions and you reach the Supreme State of human perfection, the Aatman, which is the subset of the all pervading Brahman. Thus, in summary Lord Krishna sets the path and the scheme for Self discovery for his beloved friend (Sakhaa) and disciple (Bhakta) Arjuna. Thanks & Best Regards, Shrikant Joshi. ====================================To learn more -please visit Hindi website: www.swamiramsukhdasji.orgplease visit English website: www.swamiramsukhdasji.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 3-42 & 43 indriyani paraanyaahur, indriyebhyah param manah | manasastu paraa buddhir yo buddheh paratastu sah || (Gita 3-42) Evam buddheh param buddhvaa samstabhyaatmaanamaatmana | Jahi satrum mahaabaaho kaamaroopam duraasadam || (Gita 3-43) It is said that the senses are superior to the gross body, greater (higher, more powerful, illuminating, pervasive and subtler) than the senses is the mind; greater than the mind is the intellect, but greater than the intellect is desire. Thus, knowing that desire is beyond intellect, subduing the self by one's self, destroy this, O mighty-armed Arjuna, the tough enemy in the form of desire, which is hard to conquer. 42-43 Comment: — `indriyani paraanyaahur'— Senses are superior to body or objects of senses. It means, that senses know the objects but objects do not know senses. Senses live without objects, but without senses, the existence of objects is not proved. Objects cannot illumine senses, but senses illumine objects. Senses remain the same while objects go on changing objects come within the range of senses, while senses do not come within the range of objects. Eyes (senses) can perceive the physical body and objects, but the body and objects cannot perceive the senses. So senses are greater, more powerful, more subtle and have a wider range of activity, than objects and the physical body. `indriyebhyah param manah ' — Senses, do not know the mind, while the mind knows all the senses. Every sense, knows only its own objects, but does not know the objects of other senses. Ears can perceive only sound, but cannot perceive touch, form, taste and smell. Similarly, tongue can only taste, nose can only smell, eyes can only see, and skin can only touch. But the mind knows the five senses, and their objects. Therefore, the mind is superior, more powerful, more subtle, has a wider range of activity, than senses and is, their illuminator. `manasastu paraa buddhiryo — The mind, does not know the intellect, but the intellect knows the mind and senses. The intellect, knows whether the mind is quiet or turbulent and whether senses function properly or not. It means, that the intellect knows the mind and its thoughts, as well as the senses and their objects. Therefore, the intellect is greater, more powerful, more subtle and has a wider range of activity, than the mind and is its illuminator. `yo buddheh paratastu sah ' — The master of intellect is ego; therefore, a person says `My intellect'. Intellect is an instrument and `ego' is the doer. The instrument depends, on the doer. Desire, resides in the insentient portion of ego. But, it is because of the identification of the self with the insentient body etc., that desire seems to reside in the pure self (the sentient). In fact, desire resides in `ego' 'I, because ego has the desire to enjoy pleasures and so becomes the enjoyer. The enjoyer, enjoyment and the object to be enjoyed belong to the same class, otherwise the enjoyer cannot be attracted towards the objects. But, there is no desire in the self, which is the illuminator of the enjoyer, enjoyment and the object to be enjoyed. All the insentient objects, such as the body, the mind, the senses, the intellect and the ego are fragments of nature (prakriti). Beyond ego there is the self, a fragment of God. The self, is the base, the root, the cause, the inspirer of the body, senses, mind, intellect and ego, and is subtler, greater, stronger, wider than all of them, and is also their illuminator. There is pleasure or pain in the insentient nature (prakriti, inert) of the embodied soul, while the sentient (soul) does not undergo any modifications, such as pleasure or pain etc. The self (soul) is the knower of any modification. But, when It identifies Itself with the insentient (body etc.,) it has to undergo pleasure and pain. The sentient, (soul) by identifying Itself with the insentient (body etc.,) becomes the enjoyer. In the inert only, there is no enjoyership. The enjoyership, remains in the ego (where there is identification of the soul with the body). The term `asya', used in the fifty-ninth verse of the second chapter, denotes the enjoyer, while the term `Parama' denotes, God, unattached Universal Soul. `When a striver realizes, `Parama' (God or Self) his taste or relish also turns away (Gîtâ 2/59). A man, has desire in order to derive pleasure or joy, while the self is naturally a heap of joy. Therefore, on God-realization or Self-realization, desire (desire for sensual pleasure) totally perishes, forever. `Evam buddheh param buddhvaa ' — In the previous verses, it has been explained, "The senses are greater than the body, greater than the senses, is the mind and greater than the mind is the intellect." But now in this verse, when the Lord declares, that greater than intellect, is desire, He means to say, that desire resides in `ego', not in the self. Had it resided in the self, it might have never perished. It is born when the self accepts its affinity for the insentient body etc. In fact, it resides in the insentient fragment, (matter), but appears in the Self. Therefore, knowing this desire, which is beyond intellect, a striver should eliminate it. `samstabhyaatmaanamaatmana'— The method, to slay this desire, is to restrain, the self by the self viz., to accept the real affinity of the self, for the pure self or for God whose part It is. The same fact, has been pointed out by the Lord, in the fifth and the sixth verses of the sixth chapter when he declares, "One should raise oneself by one's self alone" and "The self has been conquered by the self." The self is a part of God, while the body, senses, mind and intellect are part of the world. When the self having a disinclination for God, has an inclination for nature (the world), desires are born, Desires are born, when there is privation and a man (the self) feels it because of his affinity for the world, eventhough the world is unreal, has no existence (Gîtâ 2/16) but like a mirage, it seems to exist. As soon as, the affinity for the world is renounced, desires perish, because the self has no deficiency as the Lord declares, "The real never suffers any deficiency" (Gîtâ 2/16). Even when, a man has disinclination for God, and assumes his affinity for the world, his real desire (need or hunger) remains to realize God, whose, fragment he (the self) is. He wants to remain alive forever, he wants to possess all knowledge and he wants to be happy forever—this is his desire to attain God, who is the Embodiment of Truth, Consciousness and Bliss. But, it is because of his affinity for the world, that by an error of judgment, he wants to satisfy this desire (need), by enjoying worldly pleasures. But this desire, can never be satisfied with worldly objects, so it will have to be discarded. He, who has established his affinity, for the world, is also capable of renouncing it. So The Lord orders Arjuna to slay this desire by dissociating himself from the world through his own efforts. This dissociation, needs no practice because practice is done with the help of the world (body, senses, mind and intellect). In fact, a man gets established in the self or realizes God by renouncing affinity for the world. `Jahi satrum mahaabaaho kaamaroopam duraasadam' — The term `mahaabaaho' means one possessed of long and mighty arms i.e., a brave warrior. By addressing Arjuna, as `mahaabaaho', the Lord means that he is brave enough to slay the enemy in the form of desire. It is hard for a man to conquer this enemy, so long as he has affinity for the world. This desire deviates even the wise from the performance of their duty by covering their discrimination, and so they have a downfall. Therefore, the Lord has said, that it is hard to conquer. So, a striver, instead of losing heart should be aware of this enemy. Desires appear and disappear, whether these are fully satisfied or partly satisfied, or not satisfied at all, while the self ever remains uniform, and knows the appearance and disappearance of desires. So he can easily renounce his affinity for them, which is merely assumed. Therefore, a striver should not be afraid of desires, if he is determined towards his aim, he can slay `desire', very easily. Everyone is independent, qualified, deserving and able to realize God, but it is not so with desire, because these can never be satiated. The Lord, has bestowed upon beings this human body, so that they may attain Him. So they can easily renounce desires, but it is because of their attachment to the worldly persons and objects etc., that it seems difficult to renounce desires. The Lord, creates unfavourable circumstances so that man may be warned, not to have desire for favourable circumstances, as these will lead him to suffering. It is a rule that he who has a desire for worldly persons and objects cannot escape pain. The Lord declares, "The pleasures that are born of contacts (with objects) are only sources of pain (Gîtâ 5/22). The soul possesses infinite strength. It is because of the power derived from the soul, that intellect, mind and senses, seem powerful. But It forgets Its strength because of Its affinity for the insentient, and regards itself as subordinate to the intellect, mind and senses etc. Therefore, it is necessary to know the Self, and recognize Its power, in order to kill the enemy in the form of desire. Desire, is born out of affinity of the self, for the insentient (Matter) and it resides in it, but seems to reside in the self. If one does not accept affinity for the insentient, desire has no existence. Therefore, when the Lord urges Arjuna, to slay desire, He means to say, that desire has no existence of its own. A desire appears and it automatically disappears. So, if one has no new desires, the old ones automatically disappear. A man becomes aware of something wanting in himself, only when he regards the .worldly objects, such as the body etc., as T, `mine' and `for me', but he wants to make up for the lack, by worldly materials. So, he has desire to acquire these. But it is impossible to make up that lack, by those materials because he (the self) is imperishable, while these are perishable. Thus, he by desiring transitory objects, gains nothing, but suffering. Therefore, by calling desire an enemy, the Lord urges Arjuna to slay it. This desire can be easily eliminated through the Discipline of Action, because an aspirant following the Discipline of Action, performs every major or minor act, for the good of others, rather than to satiate his own desire. All his actions are performed, for the welfare of others without any selfish motive. All his resources, are not his own, but have been acquired and are likely to be lost. So, he uses, them, for the welfare of the world, by regarding these as the world's, without any selfish motive. Thus, he gets rid of desires easily, and consequently, attains his aim of God-realization. Then, nothing further remains to be done, to be known, and to be acquired for him. From "The Bhagavadgita - Sadhak Sanjivani" in English by Swami Ramsukhdasji ====================================To learn more -please visit Hindi website: www.swamiramsukhdasji.orgplease visit English website: www.swamiramsukhdasji.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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