Nothing is Good or Bad, It is Utilization Which Makes it Good or Bad

February 10, 2010

nothing is good or bad it is the utilization that makes it good or bad.Great message to be thought,understood and put in to practise by every sadhaka.The nectar i gathered from todays message. Badri Narayana Miriyala

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Shree Hari Ram Ram

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|| Shree Hari ||Ram Ram

9th February 2010, Tuesday, Maagh Krishna Ekadashi, Vikram Samvat 2066, Sri Krishna Samvaat 5235

God had given human beings freedom. All other living beings, they do not have that much independence and freedom. Human beings have complete freedom, and if this freedom is put to proper use, it can lead to salvation. Therefore this birth is called "karma yoni." The main difference is that in human birth, one is responsible to do one's work (karma). It is not "bhog yoni" i.e. It is not a birth that is only for bearing the fruits of past actions. In human birth, one has rights to do new actions. And through doing actions (one's duty), one can either become independent or bound.

What is the reason that his birth-death cycle started in the first place? Why did sorrow come about? The reason this sorrow came about is from improper utilization of our freedom. But the minute we stop misutilizing our freedom, then we can attain salvation. We have the opportunity to stop this cycle. Opportunities like this, may not arise again for a long time. We are fortunate, as this opportunity is here right now.

The greatness of this human birth is not the body. This body is only a factory for manufacturing urine and feces. Human birth is the highest of all births (in Manasa, Uttarkand). It is the rarest form of birth, as only in this birth one is eligible and has rights to realize God (Self). We are at a big junction (just like a major train junction, where you can pick any direction to travel). You have the opportunity to go many places from this birth. Given this opportunity, one has to become extremely alert. This birth is " durlabh" rare, because of its eligibility and rights. We can be rid of all sorrows once and for all in this birth. Now, pay attention to it's greatness -

The greatness of this birth is in the vivek (discrimination) between, real-unreal, perishable-imperishable, temporary and permanent etc. However, this "vivek" must be properly utilized. No thing is good or bad, it is the utilization that makes it good or bad. Whatever situation comes our way, that situation is not good or bad, it is how it is put to use. If properly put to use, (i.e. knowing what is to be done and not to be done), one can become joyful forever. In this human birth, one has the freedom and independence to attain salvation.

Favorable and unfavorable situations are not in our hands. Often in unfavorable situations, there is greater progress. One becomes more alert, more cautious. But these unfavorable situations are good when they are put to proper use. Proper use is when one can remain happy at all times from within, and under any circumstance. Finally and most importantly, when we turn towards God, it is proper use of our discrimination and when we move towards sense enjoyments and pleasures, it is mis-utilization of our discrimination.

From discourse in hindi on Mar 22, 1991 at 5 pm. By Swami Ramsukhdasji

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February 11, 2010

nothing is good or bad it is the utilization that makes it good or bad.Great message to be thought,understood and put in to practise by every sadhaka.The nectar i gathered from todays message. Badri Narayana Miriyala----Shree Hari Ram Ram Please share your thoughts / insights / any doubts on this message by Swamiji. Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram --------NEW POSTINGTo feel satisfied, seek satisfaction that any possession, relationship, situation, idea is good, important, sacred, moral, right, beneficial and so on apart from its use, is the psychological comfort to which the mind clings. Similarly, satisfaction is sought in avoiding bad, unimportant, profane, immoral, wrong, harmful and so on. It is a bend in the mind and is present in all our actions. It is almost impossible for the present mind to work without this psychological comfort. It feels satisfied in this venture. The contra reaction ignored will always follow me (as pain, suffering) so that I may understand the futility of selection. Then is there nothing as good? Everything has usage value and that is the only goodness of it.Y V Chawla---Shri HariRam RamIt is true nothing is good or bad,it is utilization which makes it good or bad.Utilization depend upon discrimination which comes from satsang by grace of God.Science of discrimination-Bhagwat Gita teaches us by remembrance of God all times and do karma for the welfare of others then definitely by grace of God,discrimination comes in intellect for best utilization of circumstance.Thanks & RegardsPawan Kumar Singhal---Dear Sadaks,To beat someone is Bad. To help some is good. To think of causing trouble is Bad. To think "Samastha Loka Sukinobavanthu" is good. So is in many aspects. Good and bad are 2 different Karmas. Paapa and puniya are 2 different cause and effect.B.Sathyanarayan--Shree Paramatmane Namah The way I have understoot Swamiji's saying - "No thing is good or bad, it is the utilization that makes it good or bad." that, "nothing is good or bad, it is the belief of the mind-intellect that this is good or this is bad." When there is nothing else besides God(Paramatma)(à¤—à¥€à¤¤à¤¾ 7 : 19) , then That Paramatma can be called good or bad only by the inert mind - intellect, not a sentient (chetan) being, one with discrimination (vivek). So be it, Vineet Sarvottam --------------------God has given no freedom to anyone anything. Even Lord Krishna did not have any freedom. Even God has no freedom. Everything and everyone is completely bound by the principles of creation that God has had to create. We do, think, suffer, enjoy, please others, sacrifice, preach, love, get angry, loot, commit violence, follow or do not follow ethics as per the destiny that derives from the divine priciples of Creation, sustenance and destruction. Those who are destined becomes Sadhakas, those who are destined reach self-realization and salvation. The Sun burns due to the same principle. Man cannot by will get born in Moon. Freedom is illusive. Realization of the fact of illusion is Slf Realization. Sun is good as well as bad. So is everything, every thought, every action. All are various forms of the same infinite, indestructible, indivisible, all pervativse God.If destined, a form will become formless or transform into another form. Whatever each one does is inevitable and equally meaningful and meanigless.Basudeb Sen || Shree Hari ||Ram Ram9th February 2010, Tuesday, Maagh Krishna Ekadashi, Vikram Samvat 2066, Sri Krishna Samvaat 5235 God had given human beings freedom. All other living beings, they do not have that much independence and freedom. Human beings have complete freedom, and if this freedom is put to proper use, it can lead to salvation. Therefore this birth is called "karma yoni." The main difference is that in human birth, one is responsible to do one's work (karma). It is not "bhog yoni" i.e. It is not a birth that is only for bearing the fruits of past actions. In human birth, one has rights to do new actions. And through doing actions (one's duty), one can either become independent or bound. What is the reason that his birth-death cycle started in the first place? Why did sorrow come about? The reason this sorrow came about is from improper utilization of our freedom. But the minute we stop misutilizing our freedom, then we can attain salvation. We have the opportunity to stop this cycle. Opportunities like this, may not arise again for a long time. We are fortunate, as this opportunity is here right now. The greatness of this human birth is not the body. This body is only a factory for manufacturing urine and feces. Human birth is the highest of all births (in Manasa, Uttarkand). It is the rarest form of birth, as only in this birth one is eligible and has rights to realize God (Self). We are at a big junction (just like a major train junction, where you can pick any direction to travel). You have the opportunity to go many places from this birth. Given this opportunity, one has to become extremely alert. This birth is " durlabh" rare, because of its eligibility and rights. We can be rid of all sorrows once and for all in this birth. Now, pay attention to it's greatness - The greatness of this birth is in the vivek (discrimination) between, real-unreal, perishable-imperishable, temporary and permanent etc. However, this "vivek" must be properly utilized. No thing is good or bad, it is the utilization that makes it good or bad. Whatever situation comes our way, that situation is not good or bad, it is how it is put to use. If properly put to use, (i.e. knowing what is to be done and not to be done), one can become joyful forever. In this human birth, one has the freedom and independence to attain salvation. Favorable and unfavorable situations are not in our hands. Often in unfavorable situations, there is greater progress. One becomes more alert, more cautious. But these unfavorable situations are good when they are put to proper use. Proper use is when one can remain happy at all times from within, and under any circumstance. Finally and most importantly, when we turn towards God, it is proper use of our discrimination and when we move towards sense enjoyments and pleasures, it is mis-utilization of our discrimination. From discourse in hindi on Mar 22, 1991 at 5 pm. By Swami Ramsukhdasji For ENGLISH WEBSITE please visit: http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.net===========================================GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES: PLEASE - FOR QUESTIONER1. The questions as far as possible must be relevant to Gita, relevant to Dharma, relavant to other scriptures and relevant to motivate Sadhaks to take up spiritual path2. The Questioner must commit to feedback at end of dicussion to bring closure and commit to daily Gita study3. Only one question at a time.4. Question must be brief, to the point and relevant to the group's primary aim of deeper understanding of Gita.GITA TALK GROUP GUIDELINES for RESPONDER: PLEASE -1. Only responses that further clarify Gita message will be posted.2. Quote Gitaji/scriptures wherever possible.3. RESPECT all Sadhaks. Limit personal feelings, opinions, beliefs etc. to the extent that they further help in understanding the Gita shlokas4. Be BRIEF, RELEVANT (stay with the subject being discussed only) 5. Do not include links to the other sites; personal information (Ph #, addressetc) or personalize message to particular person6. All responses may not be posted.7. Please keep in mind novices, youth, westerners, non-sectarian audience. Limitthe use to Sanskrit words and provide English word bracketed.GITA TALK MODERATORSRam Ram------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Post message: Subscribe: - Unsubscribe: -